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John Blackthorn
Foundation R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.06.21 20:17:00 -
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Does anyone know of a topic that discussed the the added ability to disable outpost station services?
I don't think this was thought through very well. Simply put you can not guard your outpost 24 hours a day. For my corp we cover the U.S. time zones pretty good but while we are at work there is not a lot of euro players. And thus a group of euro's came in and disabled the services today. This group happens to be empire based so they have no hard targets to return the favor.
This seems lame, in that I'll be damned if I'm going to log into the game each night and repair structures over and over.
Npc outposts don't have this "feature" why should one that was build for 20b or so isk be able to be disabled like this? It's not fun...
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sariss
Art of War Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.06.21 20:58:00 -
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This belongs into CAOD imho
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Yamichi Wiggin
Caldari Rising Knights SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.21 20:59:00 -
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My understanding (and this may not be spot on): 1- Outposts are not intended to be a one-time investment. They must be protected and cared for. In the previous incarnation, this wasn't the case. Save up, protect it until downtime, then poof- indestructible outpost. Your bad guys have to destroy and deploy however many POS to get the outpost. In some systems, this can take weeks and in that time the outpost is invulnerable and still fully productive and useful. 2- CCP was attempting to counter the problems that led to POS spamming and dreadswarms. The only way to take out a POS without MAJOR losses was to have 15+ dreads jump it, siege and pound on it for 10 minutes or so. I was part of taking a POS down when we only had one dread on hand. It took hours. We had hundreds of battleships and it took about 4 hours. So CCP wanted to give support gangs and sub-capital ships targets. 3- if I read the notes accurately, you can now anchor defense guns around your outpost. Arm it and let it shoot back. 4- That SUCKS. no other way to look at it. Getting jumped by a corp with no appreciable (or attackable) assets is craptacular. There's just no getting around it. Sorry m8 ------ Pain is weakness leaving the body.
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Hehulk
Black Sea Industries Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.06.21 20:59:00 -
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omg, unfair changes
CCP, I demand you revert this change! ---------- It's great being minmatar, ain't it |
R2 D3
Slacker Industries Exuro Mortis
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Posted - 2007.06.21 21:01:00 -
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eum I think it is a good thing if euro guys can make a force that can disable your services that means it cost you time and effort to get it back in your own timezone.
this will encourage corporations/alliances that hold space to recruit a bit more global so they have some force on all the time.
but can't you do most things you can do in a station aswell on a pos?
also with new triage mode on cariers it shouldn't take such a long time to repair it.
so I need to say I actually like it.
still I understand your opinion about this and I know it feels bad to lose pos's stations etc. while you can't go online due to rl
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Kuolematon
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.06.21 21:01:00 -
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Posting in epic RK whine thread! Factory Service is about to go down as I type this!!!
"to be honest it makes me wonder about the mental state of a person who would join a corp called Space Perverts and Forum warriors"
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Kaar
Art of War Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.06.21 21:02:00 -
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Originally by: John Blackthorn This group happens to be empire based so they have no hard targets to return the favor.
We have pos's in lowsec and 0.0
Do some scouting if you really want payback :)
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Purgatori
Minmatar Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.06.21 21:02:00 -
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alliances may actually have to work a extra bit harder now? o noes
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Hehulk
Black Sea Industries Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.06.21 21:03:00 -
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Originally by: Kuolematon Posting in epic RK whine thread! Factory Service is about to go down as I type this!!!
QFT!
Labatory next ---------- It's great being minmatar, ain't it |
Lem2J
Black Sea Industries Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.06.21 21:03:00 -
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Edited by: Lem2J on 21/06/2007 21:04:02 Try
1.) Having less space and defending what you have, relative to your size and ability 2.) Balance your alliance and politics to work on protection and covering your time zones.
You might have to work and not just POS spam ;) Oh noes
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putukas
Amarr Enterprise Estonia Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.06.21 21:05:00 -
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Thanks CCP for giving us new toy to annoy people. As i see its working already. And dont whine about "we cant defend outpost 24h" you dont deserve that station if you cant defend it.
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Ozzie Asrail
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.06.21 21:06:00 -
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Don't worry. Carebear tears can cure any wound! -----
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lyspaera
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.06.21 21:06:00 -
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Originally by: Kuolematon Posting in epic RK whine thread! Factory Service is about to go down as I type this!!!
funy as hell.. now we have some thing to shoot at.. Hint hint
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Lanari
Mercenaries of Andosia Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2007.06.21 21:08:00 -
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Edited by: Lanari on 21/06/2007 21:07:25 awwww...what a shame, you actualy have to fight cow now, instead of hiding in your outposts and pos's....
anyone know the song "cry me a river"?
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Ank Myrandor
Amarr Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.06.21 21:10:00 -
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yep this hurts, no repair, no clones, no fitting ?
get your stuff out, cause i think we can do this quite often enough so your station is about useless
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Pepperami
Art of War Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.06.21 21:10:00 -
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Can someone nerf these goddamn nanos?
oh wai..
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Kaar
Art of War Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.06.21 21:11:00 -
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Funny thing is they whine before even trying to rep it.
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Antillies
Mercenaries of Andosia Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2007.06.21 21:22:00 -
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Just lol tbh
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Kuolematon
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.06.21 21:27:00 -
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I had to bail out after Factory of RK felt down. Stupid real life.
Did Lab go down in fire too?
"to be honest it makes me wonder about the mental state of a person who would join a corp called Space Perverts and Forum warriors"
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Lprez
Caldari Black Sea Industries Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.06.21 21:28:00 -
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Anyone got ny strontium?Im getting a bit low. (anyone recognise this ? ) WooooHoooo i lik the outpost. Its all mine. Its all mine.
Regards CoW Lprez
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Pepperami
Art of War Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.06.21 21:31:00 -
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Originally by: Lprez Anyone got ny strontium?Im getting a bit low. (anyone recognise this ? ) WooooHoooo i lik the outpost. Its all mine. Its all mine.
Regards CoW Lprez
are you in siege?
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Lprez
Caldari Black Sea Industries Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.06.21 21:33:00 -
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Enter siege mode?
lol rofl.....anyone seen this?
Lprez
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WildSide
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.06.21 21:38:00 -
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Edited by: WildSide on 21/06/2007 21:37:22 anyone seen my alts hauler...? its somehwere inside the blob...
all this pew pewing takes a lot of ammmo u know.....oh...u dont know..I forgot..:P
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Purgatori
Minmatar Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.06.21 21:38:00 -
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i think i would look rather pretty docked in the station tbh ^^
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Valandril
Caldari Resurrection R i s e
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Posted - 2007.06.21 21:40:00 -
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Originally by: Kuolematon Posting in epic RK whine thread! Factory Service is about to go down as I type this!!!
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Capt Rapace
ORIGIN SYSTEMS Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.21 21:41:00 -
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Originally by: John Blackthorn why should one that was build for 20b or so isk be able to be disabled like this? It's not fun...
You didnt pay for it, be happier - ill have it if you care about repairing it.
i ALSO have the best solution ever! Recruit euro players, or make an alt for repping the station!
Called game mechanics john, adapt and survive. try hunting them in empire, empire war or is a few mill ZOMG way too much to mine for you ? i think you are scared and this system disabling idea is great and works perfect.
Thx.
Rapace
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John Blackthorn
Foundation R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.06.21 22:43:00 -
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To Cult of War: I don't have any issues with what you did. I'm not wining that you did that. I specificly didn't mention you because it's not a wine that you shot the services down.
I'm making the comment that I don't like the change that ccp did to the outpost. And I was inquiring about any thread that talked about this before the patch came in.
As to umm. forget your name. yes we did pay for it. Stations been bought and sold several times btw.
-John
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Tobias Sjodin
Ore Mongers R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.06.21 22:49:00 -
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Good work InfoD & CoW, through coordinated efforts, and an 80 man gang, you spent the Thursday night to disable some outpost services. A commendable achievment even by your standards. Well done.
- Recruitment open again-
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Kaar
Art of War Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.06.21 23:24:00 -
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Originally by: Tobias Sjodin Good work InfoD & CoW, through coordinated efforts, and an 80 man gang, you spent the Thursday night to disable some outpost services. A commendable achievment even by your standards. Well done.
HARR!! Yet you are repairing (or attempting to) those services within an hour of us disabling them.
So dont play the "we didnt want those services anyway" card.
Also, since im in smack mode and we are on the subject of "what CoW did today" lets talk about the 47 smashkill that died with only 2 CoW losses
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Tobias Sjodin
Ore Mongers R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.06.21 23:54:00 -
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Edited by: Tobias Sjodin on 21/06/2007 23:53:31
Originally by: Kaar
Originally by: Tobias Sjodin Good work InfoD & CoW, through coordinated efforts, and an 80 man gang, you spent the Thursday night to disable some outpost services. A commendable achievment even by your standards. Well done.
HARR!! Yet you are repairing (or attempting to) those services within an hour of us disabling them.
So dont play the "we didnt want those services anyway" card.
Also, since im in smack mode and we are on the subject of "what CoW did today" lets talk about the 47 smashkill that died with only 2 CoW losses
http://kills.cultofwar.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=38121
Yes, quite an amazing feat. You certainly outdid yourselves on this one.
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