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Takeshi Yamato
eXceed Inc. No Holes Barred
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Posted - 2012.01.06 10:52:00 -
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We have new names for some missiles:
Mjolnir Rage Assault Missile Mjolnir Javelin Assault Missile Inferno Rage Assault Missile Inferno Javelin Assault Missile
There are already torpedoes using the same names, but the other Assault Missiles and Torpedoes have unique names. Not sure what's intended here. |
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
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Posted - 2012.01.07 02:59:00 -
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Takeshi Yamato wrote:We have new names for some missiles:
Mjolnir Rage Assault Missile Mjolnir Javelin Assault Missile Inferno Rage Assault Missile Inferno Javelin Assault Missile
There are already torpedoes using the same names, but the other Assault Missiles and Torpedoes have unique names. Not sure what's intended here.
Clearly, you should fit HAMs on your bombers.
But yeah, I don't know what is up with that. |
Ris Dnalor
Fleet of Doom Psychotic Tendencies.
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Posted - 2012.01.08 02:19:00 -
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Petrus Blackshell wrote:Takeshi Yamato wrote:We have new names for some missiles:
Mjolnir Rage Assault Missile Mjolnir Javelin Assault Missile Inferno Rage Assault Missile Inferno Javelin Assault Missile
There are already torpedoes using the same names, but the other Assault Missiles and Torpedoes have unique names. Not sure what's intended here. Clearly, you should fit HAMs on your bombers. But yeah, I don't know what is up with that.
or torps on your drake?
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Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
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Posted - 2012.01.08 02:38:00 -
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Ris Dnalor wrote:Petrus Blackshell wrote:Takeshi Yamato wrote:We have new names for some missiles:
Mjolnir Rage Assault Missile Mjolnir Javelin Assault Missile Inferno Rage Assault Missile Inferno Javelin Assault Missile
There are already torpedoes using the same names, but the other Assault Missiles and Torpedoes have unique names. Not sure what's intended here. Clearly, you should fit HAMs on your bombers. But yeah, I don't know what is up with that. or torps on your drake?
:insert "Naga needs missiles" tears here: |
Sarmatiko
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Posted - 2012.01.09 13:28:00 -
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Moreover ALL missiles (not only assault) were renamed according new format on latest test build today (changelog).
Inferno - Thermal Mjolnir - EM Nova - Explosive Trauma - Kinetic
For example: Scourge Heavy Missile > Trauma Heavy Missile Gremlin Rocket > Mjolnir Rocket Bane Torpedo > Nova Torpedo
I like this name change because too many names for missiles is frustrating.
But I really dont like TRAUMA name for kinetic. I hope this will change to any name other than friggin trauma. |
Takeshi Yamato
eXceed Inc. No Holes Barred
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Posted - 2012.01.09 13:32:00 -
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Sarmatiko wrote:I like this name change because too many names for missiles is frustrating.
Also liking this. |
Bienator II
madmen of the skies
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Posted - 2012.01.09 14:01:00 -
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btw not only missiles have changed.
afterburner/MWDs are now: limited << upgraded << experimental a new bounty system for eve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=359105 You fail you fail you fail you fail you fail you fail you fail to jump because you are cloaked |
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CCP Lemur
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Posted - 2012.01.09 15:17:00 -
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CCP Gnauton is cleaning up lots of item names and reducing unneeded weird names. This should make it easier for people to figure out what does what and which is better in the great pile of meta items.
Sure, some people will moan about the loss of the unique names, but it makes no sense to have a new name for the same damage type for each missile type. QA Guy | Special Ops Picture up to your IMGination. |
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Jarnis McPieksu
Aliastra Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.01.09 15:41:00 -
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CCP Lemur wrote:CCP Gnauton is cleaning up lots of item names and reducing unneeded weird names. This should make it easier for people to figure out what does what and which is better in the great pile of meta items.
Sure, some people will moan about the loss of the unique names, but it makes no sense to have a new name for the same damage type for each missile type.
Best. Change. Ever.
I assume this will go through all Meta modules over time? If so, +1000 internets to you all for this.
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Bienator II
madmen of the skies
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Posted - 2012.01.09 15:49:00 -
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CCP Lemur wrote: Sure, some people will moan about the loss of the unique names, but it makes no sense to have a new name for the same damage type for each missile type.
you could keep it in the description. "Mjolnir Rage Assault Missile (also known as RIYFXploder [right in your face exploder]) bla bla..." a new bounty system for eve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=359105 You fail you fail you fail you fail you fail you fail you fail to jump because you are cloaked |
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Salpun
Paramount Commerce Tactical Invader Syndicate
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Posted - 2012.01.09 15:50:00 -
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CCP Lemur wrote:CCP Gnauton is cleaning up lots of item names and reducing unneeded weird names. This should make it easier for people to figure out what does what and which is better in the great pile of meta items.
Sure, some people will moan about the loss of the unique names, but it makes no sense to have a new name for the same damage type for each missile type. So when is the new DB names going to be upload to the wiki?
As long as there is a {{DBstub}} bot in the works that changes all the links while we are at it all is good. If not -1000 internets. Wiki is going to be so broke and all my stubs are going to be trashed.
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Killmeded
KMD Enterprises
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Posted - 2012.01.09 16:17:00 -
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While we are at it can we rename the light missile shooting "assault" launcher since it does not use heavy ASSAULT missiles. I use them regularly and its REALLY annoying to have to point out assault NOT hvy assault when discussing them . . . . . Call them expanded missile launchers or something else that wll not resemble another similar item
Guristas should have-á"BIGGER" Skull Bunnies-áin the default paintjob.-áGuristas and all other pirates should get custom ships like angels (or at LEAST fix the-áHIDEOUS Moa/Gila-áhull). |
Jack Dant
The Gentlemen of Low Moral Fibre
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Posted - 2012.01.09 16:19:00 -
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CCP Lemur wrote:Sure, some people will moan about the loss of the unique names, but it makes no sense to have a new name for the same damage type for each missile type. Doesn't make much sense to introduce completely new names for the kin/exp missiles either.
If you really want the name to give some hint to the damage type, just rename them to "Kinetic Assault Missile" or "Explosive Assault Missile", but don't make us learn one more name (even if it's the last one we are going to need). What happens in lowsec, stays in lowsec, lowering the barrier to entry to lowsec PVP: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=476644&#post476644 |
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
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Posted - 2012.01.09 16:38:00 -
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Jack Dant wrote:CCP Lemur wrote:Sure, some people will moan about the loss of the unique names, but it makes no sense to have a new name for the same damage type for each missile type. Doesn't make much sense to introduce completely new names for the kin/exp missiles either. If you really want the name to give some hint to the damage type, just rename them to "Kinetic Assault Missile" or "Explosive Assault Missile", but don't make us learn one more name (even if it's the last one we are going to need).
The new names represent the damage type of their missile far better:
- Mjolnir - EM damage - Thor's favorite weapon. Think "lightning".
- Inferno - Thermal damage - literally, "Hell". Depending on what you believe, Hell is hot or cold, but nowhere in between. Those are both thermally damaging environments.
- Trauma - Kinetic damage - from "wound" in Greek. Being beaten to death (kinetic damage) is quite traumatic, don't you think? Dying to a kinetic-wielding Caldari ship is also a traumatic experience.
- Nova - Explosive damage - From Wikipedia: "A nova (plural novae) is a cataclysmic nuclear explosion in a star". Nuff said.
The latter two make way more sense than "Sourge" and "Bane", or any of the other pre-existing names. Man up and get used to it.
On another note, good job, CCP! I always thought the varying missile names added a completely unnecessary layer of complexity that didn't really help immersion or anything. |
Jack Dant
The Gentlemen of Low Moral Fibre
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Posted - 2012.01.09 16:50:00 -
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I knew that. But they are not very obvious names, except for Inferno.
So why not name them "EM Warhead assault missile" "Thermal Warhead assault missile" and so on? What happens in lowsec, stays in lowsec, lowering the barrier to entry to lowsec PVP: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=476644&#post476644 |
B DeLeon
DeLeon Industries
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Posted - 2012.01.09 17:01:00 -
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Jack Dant wrote:I knew that. But they are not very obvious names, except for Inferno.
So why not name them "EM Warhead assault missile" "Thermal Warhead assault missile" and so on?
It's easier to search them on the market with a unique name |
Vegare
Das zweite Konglomerat The Initiative.
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Posted - 2012.01.09 17:04:00 -
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This is truly great news! |
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
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Posted - 2012.01.09 17:16:00 -
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Jack Dant wrote:I knew that. But they are not very obvious names, except for Inferno.
So why not name them "EM Warhead assault missile" "Thermal Warhead assault missile" and so on?
Because that's boring . Projectile ammo is called "EMP", "Phased Plasma", "Fusion", "Titanium Sabot", "Depleted Uranium", "Proton", "Nuclear", and "Carbonized Lead". Those are just about as intuitive as the new missile names. On top of that, you have to remember not only the difference between the damage types, but also between the range/tracking mods they offer. |
Takeshi Yamato
eXceed Inc. No Holes Barred
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Posted - 2012.01.09 18:05:00 -
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CCP Lemur wrote:CCP Gnauton is cleaning up lots of item names and reducing unneeded weird names. This should make it easier for people to figure out what does what and which is better in the great pile of meta items.
Sure, some people will moan about the loss of the unique names, but it makes no sense to have a new name for the same damage type for each missile type.
Any idea what's planned for, say, Capacitor Power Relays? I count 12 variants of them before even looking at faction or officer versions and most of these are effectively useless. Are these just going to be renamed in a manner that allows one to see how good they are compared to each other? Why not remove some of the obsolete ones from the market? |
Morgan North
The Wild Bunch Electus Matari
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Posted - 2012.01.09 18:46:00 -
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Maybe the reason they'r being renamed is because missile launchers are being worked on? I can dream? :D |
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Xtover
Macabre Votum Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2012.01.09 18:47:00 -
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CCP Lemur wrote:CCP Gnauton is cleaning up lots of item names and reducing unneeded weird names. This should make it easier for people to figure out what does what and which is better in the great pile of meta items.
Sure, some people will moan about the loss of the unique names, but it makes no sense to have a new name for the same damage type for each missile type. Sir, did he take my Rajas?
did he take my Rajas?
DID HE TAKE MY RAJAS?!?!
I WANT MY RAJAS!! |
Jaa-Ko Arakal
Dogmatic Citizens NZAU Alliance
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Posted - 2012.01.09 19:33:00 -
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Trauma is a ****** missile name, but Mjolnir is cool. Would rather they just left it alone but meh. |
Ottersmacker
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2012.01.09 19:35:00 -
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Petrus Blackshell wrote:The new names represent the damage type of their missile far better: Hey I have another idea how to represent the damage type (since that's the goal) even better:
EM Rocket Caldari Navy Thermal Torpedo Kinetic Rage Heavy Missile Explosive Javelin Assault Missile
.. get it? Naming stuff is insignificant, but arguably there is depth and diversity (some would call it confusion no doubt) in the myriad of missile names available at present. Missiles have names IRL as well - for example there are the Mistral and the Exocet, this would turn them into "MBDA Anti-Aircraft Missile" and "MBDA Anti-Ship Missile".
Next stop? Arbitrator Frigate, Arbitrator Cruiser, Arbitrator Field Command Ship.
also Trauma? come on :/ .. The Order of the Falcon or Hin +¡slenska f+ílkaor+¦a is a national Order of Iceland |
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
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Posted - 2012.01.09 19:51:00 -
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I think Mjinor needs to be changed to Thor missiles because Mjilor is the hammer itself.
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Boltorano
Fourth Circle Total Comfort
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Posted - 2012.01.09 20:01:00 -
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Killmeded wrote:While we are at it can we rename the light missile shooting "assault" launcher since it does not use heavy ASSAULT missiles. I use them regularly and its REALLY annoying to have to point out assault NOT hvy assault when discussing them . . . . . Call them expanded missile launchers or something else that wll not resemble another similar item
Re-name heavy assault launchers instead, assault launchers were here first. |
Baneken
Hyvat Pahat ja Eric The Polaris Syndicate
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Posted - 2012.01.09 20:23:00 -
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I liked the old names better because they sounded BRAND NAMES which is a very caldari thing to name something.
CCP killing RP one by one.
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Xtover
Macabre Votum Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2012.01.09 20:35:00 -
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Nova Fox wrote:I think Mjinor needs to be changed to Thor missiles because Mjilor is the hammer itself. Then the launchers would be Thor launchers. |
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
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Posted - 2012.01.09 20:44:00 -
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Xtover wrote:Nova Fox wrote:I think Mjinor needs to be changed to Thor missiles because Mjilor is the hammer itself. Then the launchers would be Thor launchers.
Name the launchers Thor name the missiles after his hammer.
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Callic Veratar
Power of the Phoenix
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Posted - 2012.01.09 20:46:00 -
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Nova Fox wrote:I think Mjinor needs to be changed to Thor missiles because Mjilor is the hammer itself.
Thor should be the name of the T2 Maelstrom. |
Mfume Apocal
Origin. Black Legion.
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Posted - 2012.01.09 20:46:00 -
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CCP Lemur wrote:CCP Gnauton is cleaning up lots of item names and reducing unneeded weird names. This should make it easier for people to figure out what does what and which is better in the great pile of meta items.
Sure, some people will moan about the loss of the unique names, but it makes no sense to have a new name for the same damage type for each missile type.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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