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VanuLancer
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Posted - 2007.06.27 21:12:00 -
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Firstly my apologies not on topic for this forum but this NEEDS to be seen by as many UK residents as possible and I'm guessing there's terms saying no political discussions etc but again this is extremely important for everyone in the UK.
Contact your MP today and tell them to put forward a motion for a referendum on the new EU 'treaty' which is essentially the same as the constitution that got slammed by the French and Dutch(?) no vote last year.
We were PROMISED this by all political parties at the last general election and almost 100% of MPs, the fact that Gordon Brown has decided it's not necessary makes it all the more important we have this! At the very least they've lied to us (who'd of thunk it of politicians?) at the worst they've handed over sovereign power to Brussels.
Here's some info, turn off the music its terrible All you need to know about the EU 'Treaty' in 4 minutes
Do you want to have your rights dictated to you by Eurocrats in Brussels that are not democratically elected?
I'm not usually into politics but this has got me more than a little worked up.
Again my apologies if this is not allowable in general disco please at least keep it in out of pod If one is to read the "C&P" boards, one would believe that everyone and their grandma are pirates, and spend 23 hours a day killing un-stabbed haulers, and the other hour watching Crazy Town |
Quilan Ziller
Gallente Clan LoKi R i s e
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Posted - 2007.06.27 21:14:00 -
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WTF ?
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Dead Inside
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Posted - 2007.06.27 21:16:00 -
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1st page of an epic thread... m8 honestly...
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Crumplecorn
Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2007.06.27 21:18:00 -
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I am posting in advance of the closing of this topic. -
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Cornelius Murphy
The Flying Swan
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Posted - 2007.06.27 21:19:00 -
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Democracy doesn't exist. If voting was useful it would be banned
The UK is going down the pan, I myself am currently studying Spanish, and plan to move there asap because of this.
The government will not listen, and Gordon "pickpocket" Brown will be no better! ------------------------------------------
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Cypherous
Minmatar Liberty Rogues
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Posted - 2007.06.27 21:20:00 -
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Edited by: Cypherous on 27/06/2007 21:21:59 Edited by: Cypherous on 27/06/2007 21:18:55 IBTL ^^
Oh and IBDS :P
After looking at the video (nice music btw) i got bored half way through and decided i didn't care because i do as i want anyway :) ---------
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Ebil Edna
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Posted - 2007.06.27 21:47:00 -
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Those of you with a brain will have noticed that the video is from the UKIP, a far right fringe party dedicated to keeping Britain out of the EU and keeping "johnny foreigner" out of Britain. The party was led for a while by the perpetually bright orange skinned moron Kilroy-Silk.
Why not search UKIP on Google to find what a joke they are? If you can't be bothered, here's just one reason not to believe anything these jokers say: http://ukipwatch.org/ Fantastic election video showing the threat Britain faces from flying saucers from Belgium.
IThere's no way you can trust what these fools try and tell you. Please close this thread.
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Cammulos
Magnetar Ltd Dark Synergy
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Posted - 2007.06.27 21:48:00 -
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Maybe you guys will get lucky like us and find yourselves a G.W. Bush to run the show for awhile.
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Ask Unbeatable
Gallente HighTech Marines Ltd. FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.27 21:50:00 -
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I once ate a baby
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VanuLancer
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Posted - 2007.06.27 22:00:00 -
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Originally by: Ebil Edna Those of you with a brain will have noticed that the video is from the UKIP, a far right fringe party dedicated to keeping Britain out of the EU and keeping "johnny foreigner" out of Britain. The party was led for a while by the perpetually bright orange skinned moron Kilroy-Silk.
Why not search UKIP on Google to find what a joke they are? If you can't be bothered, here's just one reason not to believe anything these jokers say: http://ukipwatch.org/ Fantastic election video showing the threat Britain faces from flying saucers from Belgium.
IThere's no way you can trust what these fools try and tell you. Please close this thread.
Biased, yes most probably but where's your counter to what was shown in the video?
Or are you just going to attack that party instead of the message?
One of the supposed points of the constitution was further opening up of free trading, well the French have managed to KEEP the protection for their farmers, you think that is the only thing that's changed?
Like I said it's also the principle of not even being given the vote on it after being 'guaranteed' we would by every political party.
So you are perfectly happy for your elected representatives (who only hold power temporarily) to then defer that power to a foreign assembly PERMANENTLY?
What amazing benefits are we to gain by 'intregrating' even more into Europe than we already have? More laws, more taxes, fewer rights?
Sounds great. If one is to read the "C&P" boards, one would believe that everyone and their grandma are pirates, and spend 23 hours a day killing un-stabbed haulers, and the other hour watching Crazy Town |
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Niccolado Starwalker
Shadow Templars
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Posted - 2007.06.27 22:01:00 -
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Originally by: VanuLancer Firstly my apologies not on topic for this forum but this NEEDS to be seen by as many UK residents as possible and I'm guessing there's terms saying no political discussions etc but again this is extremely important for everyone in the UK.
Contact your MP today and tell them to put forward a motion for a referendum on the new EU 'treaty' which is essentially the same as the constitution that got slammed by the French and Dutch(?) no vote last year.
We were PROMISED this by all political parties at the last general election and almost 100% of MPs, the fact that Gordon Brown has decided it's not necessary makes it all the more important we have this! At the very least they've lied to us (who'd of thunk it of politicians?) at the worst they've handed over sovereign power to Brussels.
Here's some info, turn off the music its terrible All you need to know about the EU 'Treaty' in 4 minutes
Do you want to have your rights dictated to you by Eurocrats in Brussels that are not democratically elected?
I'm not usually into politics but this has got me more than a little worked up.
Again my apologies if this is not allowable in general disco please at least keep it in out of pod
Politics are not allowed on the forums. so please take it somewhere else.
Besides, I have no clue whatsoever you are trying to say. And all politicans lie. Someone just goes a little further then the norm.
Originally by: Eldo Davip PORTRAITS OMFG WOOT. WE R GONIG FOR MROE BREEE!!!!11
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Stitcher
Caldari legion of qui Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.27 22:02:00 -
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Edited by: Stitcher on 27/06/2007 22:02:47 first, there's an off-topic forum for this stuff.
Second: the UK wins out entirely in this treaty. the vast majority of its terms work strongly in favour of Great Britain. So what if the Dutch and French slammed it?
This treaty takes absolutely no power away from the UK to govern itself. There is no central European government being founded, individual member countries will continue to be self-governing, and in the meantime we benefit considerably.
So I really fail to see why I should petition to my MP about this. As far as I can tell, this treaty is a Good Thing. I'm not in the habit of complaining about Good Things.
Edit: IBTL ***
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Congzilla
Project Gemini
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Posted - 2007.06.27 22:02:00 -
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Originally by: Cornelius Murphy Democracy doesn't exist. If voting was useful it would be banned
The UK is going down the pan, I myself am currently studying Spanish, and plan to move there asap because of this.
The government will not listen, and Gordon "pickpocket" Brown will be no better!
Why would the people who make money off elections rely on dumb voters. Deciding who becomes president is best left to electoral colleges, any idiot knows that.
/sarcasm
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Gavriel Black
Amarr The Plowmen Of Doom
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Posted - 2007.06.27 22:03:00 -
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awesome, got in before the lock wooo!
but i understand you, i feel the same way.
"eve is a brutal, harsh universe where nobody loves you" -One of the devs |
VanuLancer
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Posted - 2007.06.27 22:09:00 -
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Hmm perhaps the Daily Torygraph is more acceptable a source of some info, nice reading some of the comments too, lots of people out there picking up nice little bits of information.
Daily Telegraph
Infact at this time you can see a post with some quotes from various European leaders saying it's essentially the same document. If one is to read the "C&P" boards, one would believe that everyone and their grandma are pirates, and spend 23 hours a day killing un-stabbed haulers, and the other hour watching Crazy Town |
Dark Shikari
Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.06.27 22:17:00 -
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Wrong board, and against the rules; good job!
23 Member
EVE Video makers: save EVE-files bandwidth! Use the H.264 AutoEncoder! |
Chrisb6122
Gallente Tech 2 Holdings Limited
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Posted - 2007.06.27 22:19:00 -
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Originally by: Ask Unbeatable I once ate a baby
how'de it taste? -
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Santa Anna
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Posted - 2007.06.27 22:22:00 -
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Originally by: VanuLancer
So you are perfectly happy for your elected representatives (who only hold power temporarily) to then defer that power to a foreign assembly PERMANENTLY?
No transfer of political power is permanent.
Besides, if you don't like the terms of a treaty, just ignore the ones you don't like. Works fine for the US. |
Destiny Calling
Amarr Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.06.27 22:22:00 -
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Edited by: Destiny Calling on 27/06/2007 22:21:37 Conservative with a capital C, Daily Telegraph reading and prohunting, so naturaly at the first sign of a Euro Invasion, I'll tug my forlocks and mumble God Save the Queen as I step into the breach.....
but this is Eve, so confine yourself to the tabloids and other such forums with your non eve stuff, we come here to escape,
well not everyone escapes
thats right I need a new sig |
fazeley
Empire Assault Corp
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Posted - 2007.06.27 22:23:00 -
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I play eve to escape crap like this - thanks for bringing it up.
Go stand on a box in speakers corner with the other mentalists if you care that much.
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Frug
Zenithal Harvest
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Posted - 2007.06.27 22:25:00 -
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Please give me ISK.
- - - - - - - - - Do not use dotted lines - - - - - - - If you think I'm awesome, say BOOO BOOO!! - Ductoris Neat look what I found - Kreul Hey, my marbles |
Lucus Ranger
Gallente Blood Corsair's
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Posted - 2007.06.27 22:25:00 -
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*Sigh*
/Prince of Darkness at your service..
Disclaimer: None of my ideas or posting reflects my Alliance/Corp in any way |
Kweel Nakashyn
Minmatar Aeden Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2007.06.27 22:39:00 -
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Oh my god, brits awakes now. Too bad this thread will be closed soon, I'm not sure if CCP allows off topics thread like this. -----
History is made by whinners
Originally by: DB Preacher (...) Ignore what the coalition muppets are saying on their forums (...)
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Estel Arador
Minmatar AFK
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Posted - 2007.06.27 22:41:00 -
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Originally by: VanuLancer All you need to know about the EU 'Treaty' in 4 minutes
It's not all you need to know. In fact, the information provided is useless. Useful information would be a comparison between the current state of affairs and the one after the treaty comes into effect. Many things mentioned in the video are already in force due to previous treaties. =AFK=
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Hannobaal
Gallente Dragonfire Intergalactic Crusaders of Krom Dark Matter Coalition
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Posted - 2007.06.27 22:43:00 -
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Originally by: Chrisb6122
Originally by: Ask Unbeatable I once ate a baby
how'de it taste?
Obviously it must have tasted like chicken. ------------------
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VanuLancer
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Posted - 2007.06.27 22:44:00 -
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All you need to know to want to find out how many other things are included in it...
Plus a comparison between old constitution and new 'treaty'
Comparison If one is to read the "C&P" boards, one would believe that everyone and their grandma are pirates, and spend 23 hours a day killing un-stabbed haulers, and the other hour watching Crazy Town |
AegriSomnia
Caldari Battlestars GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.06.27 22:44:00 -
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We are losing. The control grid is in place. You have no choice. You have no voice. Do not try to leave the system or remove your self from the matrix as you will be eliminated or reprocessed and reassimilated back into the system through mood altering psychotropic drugs.
This is about control. This is about protection. This is not an option.
The EU has been around for 50 years. You just didnt know it. Soon, the USA will lose all sovreignity to the North American Union, as evidenced by the tremendously unpopular amnesty bill that most Americans disapprove of, yet WILL be passed in one week. Gauranteed. The dollar will be replaced by the Amero.
Just Google it. NAU, Amero, PNAC.
Originally by: grayson 34 Thank you for yall's advice, and a special thanks to AegriSomnia for reminding me that there are still ***holes in the world.
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Santa Anna
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Posted - 2007.06.27 22:48:00 -
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Originally by: AegriSomnia Edited by: AegriSomnia on 27/06/2007 22:43:46 We are losing. The control grid is in place. You have no choice. You have no voice. Do not try to leave the system or remove your self from the matrix as you will be eliminated or reprocessed and reassimilated back into the system through mood altering psychotropic drugs.
This is about control. This is about protection. This is not an option.
The EU has been around for 50 years. You just didnt know it. Soon, the USA will lose all sovreignity to the North American Union, as evidenced by the tremendously unpopular amnesty bill that most Americans disapprove of, yet WILL be passed in one week. Gauranteed. The dollar will be replaced by the Amero.
Just Google it. NAU, Amero, PNAC.
One more thing.........IBTL!!!!!!!
Hm. I thought this was a joke post, but GIS of Amero and PNAC returns no ****. |
Spoon Thumb
Khanid Aerospace Group Khanid Provincial Authority
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Posted - 2007.06.27 22:50:00 -
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Oh God, I just realised I know this person
Khaldari KPA are recruiting In-game channel: khanidpublic |
AegriSomnia
Caldari Battlestars GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.06.27 22:53:00 -
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Originally by: Santa Anna
Originally by: AegriSomnia Edited by: AegriSomnia on 27/06/2007 22:43:46 We are losing. The control grid is in place. You have no choice. You have no voice. Do not try to leave the system or remove your self from the matrix as you will be eliminated or reprocessed and reassimilated back into the system through mood altering psychotropic drugs.
This is about control. This is about protection. This is not an option.
The EU has been around for 50 years. You just didnt know it. Soon, the USA will lose all sovreignity to the North American Union, as evidenced by the tremendously unpopular amnesty bill that most Americans disapprove of, yet WILL be passed in one week. Gauranteed. The dollar will be replaced by the Amero.
Just Google it. NAU, Amero, PNAC.
One more thing.........IBTL!!!!!!!
Hm. I thought this was a joke post, but GIS of Amero and PNAC returns no ****.
Sure it does, i just checked. Here, lemme make it easy.
PNAC http://www.newamericancentury.org/
Amero http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_currency_union
Maybe, check your spelling?
Originally by: grayson 34 Thank you for yall's advice, and a special thanks to AegriSomnia for reminding me that there are still ***holes in the world.
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VanuLancer
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Posted - 2007.06.27 22:54:00 -
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They're coming for you!
*Hands out Tinfoil hats*
If one is to read the "C&P" boards, one would believe that everyone and their grandma are pirates, and spend 23 hours a day killing un-stabbed haulers, and the other hour watching Crazy Town |
Santa Anna
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Posted - 2007.06.27 22:56:00 -
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Originally by: AegriSomnia
Originally by: Santa Anna
Hm. I thought this was a joke post, but GIS of Amero and PNAC returns no ****.
Sure it does, i just checked. Here, lemme make it easy.
PNAC http://www.newamericancentury.org/
Amero http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_currency_union
Maybe, check your spelling?
Run a GIS (google image search) for NAU with safesearch off to find out what the profanity filter covered up in my quoted post. Don't do it in view of work/wife, though. |
AegriSomnia
Caldari Battlestars GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.06.27 22:59:00 -
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Edited by: AegriSomnia on 27/06/2007 22:58:57 MY BAD!! I thought your edited four-letter word was a synonym for a B.M.
Thats a BIG ONE!!!
Originally by: grayson 34 Thank you for yall's advice, and a special thanks to AegriSomnia for reminding me that there are still ***holes in the world.
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Coconut Joe
VIRTUAL LIFE VANGUARD Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.27 22:59:00 -
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I want an European Confederacy :(
*sigh* ibtl
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VD ThatsNotRight
Various Disease
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Posted - 2007.06.27 23:04:00 -
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errr...click??
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Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.27 23:04:00 -
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Wow, the mods must be sleeping. Completely IBTL: no politics on the EVE forum.
This is a forum about, you know, virtual spaceships and stuff. Why you think this is a good place for a discussion about EU referenda, I don't know. It's not even in OOPE --------
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Vyktor Abyss
The Abyss Corporation
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Posted - 2007.06.27 23:05:00 -
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A referendum costs a lot of money.
The reality of the matter is a referendum would be held costing millions, for probably a less than 50% turnout with even less of those people properly informed on the debate.
The government would do what they wanted anyway regardless of the outcome of a referendum.
No offense, but I think this one is best left to those in the know (the people we elected) about what it means to decide if its best for us, and save wasting referendum money that could better be used on public services.
The matter of you bringing this up here on the spaceship game forum is odd though, and linking a UKIP video is probably unwise if you're trying to 'sway' people who want to shoot spaceships into lobbying their MPs.
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Eldo Davip
Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2007.06.27 23:06:00 -
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Discussion of RL politics isn't allowed on the Eve Forums. Thread Locked
*click* ___
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AegriSomnia
Caldari Battlestars GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.06.27 23:06:00 -
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Originally by: VanuLancer They're coming for you!
*Hands out Tinfoil hats*
You laugh about it now, but Tienemen [sp?] Square was for real, bud. And China is the darling of the UN. Ever heard of a "Free Speech Zone"? Ever seen what happens when you try to exercise free speech outside the "zone"? Ever seen a grown man naked?
OK BEFORE I GET AN EMAIL FROM CCP SAYING I AM TO BE BANNED FOR TROLLING FOR THE NAKED MAN COMMENT PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE WATCH "AIRPLANE, the MOVIE". Its JUST A JOKE!!! Leslie Neilson is genius...
Originally by: grayson 34 Thank you for yall's advice, and a special thanks to AegriSomnia for reminding me that there are still ***holes in the world.
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