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Miz Cenuij
kleptomaniacs
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Posted - 2007.06.28 01:05:00 -
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Is it just me or does this thing suck.
It fails to break the locks of most ships when fired.
Yes I do have good EW skills.
Anyone else tried it out?
Got any suggestions for improving it?
"Men are going to die..
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William Hamilton
Caldari THE LEGION OF STEEL WARRIORS.... R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.06.28 01:13:00 -
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Edited by: William Hamilton on 28/06/2007 01:12:09 You're sure ity's not working?
By the numbers it should have a 100% chance to break the lock of any non-capital that doesnt have ECCM/Backup sensors...
EDIT: Except some recons...
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Thor Xian
EarthForce E.A.R.T.H. Federation
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Posted - 2007.06.28 01:14:00 -
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If anyone can figure out when EW isn't working, its Miz Cenuij. ________________________________________ ~Fleet Admiral Thor Xian, Strategic Commander
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William Hamilton
Caldari THE LEGION OF STEEL WARRIORS.... R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.06.28 01:17:00 -
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^Sure, but still, it just doesnt mesh...
I always thaugt such a rare mod should give a 20 second lockbreak anyways, as should the bomb from bombers...
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Miz Cenuij
kleptomaniacs
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Posted - 2007.06.28 01:19:00 -
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Ive used it on a gate with a fleet of my own guys and it only ever breaks the lock of one or two of them. Its pretty lame tbh.
"Men are going to die..
and im going to kill them". |
William Hamilton
Caldari THE LEGION OF STEEL WARRIORS.... R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.06.28 01:24:00 -
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That sounds preety broken, sounds like a bug, doesnt that thing have 25 strength across all sensor types?
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Miz Cenuij
kleptomaniacs
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Posted - 2007.06.28 01:25:00 -
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yeh, 25 to all types.
"Men are going to die..
and im going to kill them". |
Bein Glorious
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.06.28 03:07:00 -
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One thing you have to remember is that there is an extremely fine line between "situational at best" and "completely broken" when it comes to area-of-effect weapons.
If they had put out Remote ECM Bursts and it jammed any subcapital for 20 seconds with a 20km blast radius, then you'd have groups of motherships spamming it endlessly and permajamming hundreds of other people at once, making them totally helpless. At the same time, if a mothership's carrier buddy got tackled by some other ships, the mothership could just shoot the carrier and not the tacklers and allow it to warp away freely.
If they put out the Remote ECM Burst and its just kind of cool sometimes but not "pwn", then people will only use it sometimes or not at all. In the end, the game has not changed drastically one way or the other.
In this case, the module being subjectively underpowered is much safer from a balance standpoint than having it be overpowered and stupidly broken. Its first priority, after all, is just to break up the "powerball", not to overwhelm the enemy every time.
Besides, you still have 6000 DPS from your fighters to play with anyway. |
Vicious Phoenix
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Posted - 2007.06.28 03:37:00 -
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Originally by: Bein Glorious Besides, you still have 6000 DPS from your fighters to play with anyway.
WTB - 6000 DPS Nyx
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Bein Glorious
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.06.28 03:50:00 -
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Originally by: Vicious Phoenix
Originally by: Bein Glorious Besides, you still have 6000 DPS from your fighters to play with anyway.
WTB - 6000 DPS Nyx
Nyx with max skills and 5 DCUs and 25 Einherji:
(2.50 dmg mod * (25 + 50) * 2.0 [fighters] * 1.25 [gallente carrier] * 2.0 [Drone interfacing] * 25 fighters) / 3.75 sec rate of fire = 6,250 DPS
Am I doing this wrong, or..? |
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Azerrad InExile
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Posted - 2007.06.28 04:01:00 -
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Originally by: Bein Glorious Nyx with max skills and 5 DCUs and 25 Einherji:
(2.50 dmg mod * (25 + 50) * 2.0 [fighters] * 1.25 [gallente carrier] * 2.0 [Drone interfacing] * 25 fighters) / 3.75 sec rate of fire = 6,250 DPS
Am I doing this wrong, or..?
Pretty sure you are... -- t20: "So Let us play and enjoy the game you and I both love on the same level." |
Bein Glorious
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.06.28 04:07:00 -
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Okay, you got me, drone interfacing isn't applied.
Its still 3,125 DPS though. Nothing to spit at. |
Singularity XX
Caldari Foundation R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.06.28 04:07:00 -
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Only skill affecting fighter damage is gallente carrier and fighters. Drone interfacing does NOT. --- Playing minmatar is "like going down a flight of stairs in a office chair firing an Uzi". It's a templar, an amarr fighter used by shuttles. Tho I hear they don't tank very well. |
murder one
Gallente Death of Virtue Vigilance Infinitas
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Posted - 2007.06.28 04:16:00 -
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Originally by: Miz Cenuij Is it just me or does this thing suck.
It fails to break the locks of most ships when fired.
Yes I do have good EW skills.
Anyone else tried it out?
Got any suggestions for improving it?
You didn't get the memo? Remote ECM bursts are reduced to 25% effectiveness (reduction in power of 75%) when used in low sec. In 0.0 it works as normal.
Something to do with motherships used in low sec being over powered or something.
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Jin Entres
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.06.28 07:23:00 -
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Originally by: Bein Glorious
Originally by: Vicious Phoenix
Originally by: Bein Glorious Besides, you still have 6000 DPS from your fighters to play with anyway.
WTB - 6000 DPS Nyx
Nyx with max skills and 5 DCUs and 25 Einherji:
(2.50 dmg mod * (25 + 50) * 2.0 [fighters] * 1.25 [gallente carrier] * 2.0 [Drone interfacing] * 25 fighters) / 3.75 sec rate of fire = 6,250 DPS
Am I doing this wrong, or..?
Moms can't afford DCUs. And only Nyx gets a damage bonus, so any other mom with Carrier V and Fighters V will only get 2000 DPS out of drones that represent an uninsurable risk of 400 mil ISK, and have great vulnerability to smartbombs and fire, get shot by sentries aswell as suffer from poor drone AI.
Also, you can fire the ECM burst once every 5 minutes. Even with five moms, therefore, you can only fire one per minute. If you're in a battle you want to run away from, that's a long time. Not to mention that those locks are re-established quickly, so the window for any escaping ship is small, and highly susceptible to both lag and alignment conditions.
Really, if this is not the sort of ability a supercapital fleet support ship should have, I don't know what is. ---
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FawKa
Gallente Old Farts Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.06.28 09:30:00 -
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Originally by: murder one
Originally by: Miz Cenuij Is it just me or does this thing suck.
It fails to break the locks of most ships when fired.
Yes I do have good EW skills.
Anyone else tried it out?
Got any suggestions for improving it?
You didn't get the memo? Remote ECM bursts are reduced to 25% effectiveness (reduction in power of 75%) when used in low sec. In 0.0 it works as normal.
Something to do with motherships used in low sec being over powered or something.
Where is this listed ? its sure needed intel /me can't find it, point me in the direction MO.
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