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d026
THE LEGION OF STEEL WARRIORS.... R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.06.28 11:04:00 -
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I was scnaning like 2-3 hours yesterday. I covered like the whole region i live in. I found 1 x Drone Hive, 1 x Gurista outpost (which i couldn't do due to permajamming on the 2nd stage). Is this normal? Do you get better results? Am i doing something wrong? Do you have to scan more than once per planet? Just after the patch i got results at almost every planet? Did they nerf enounters?
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CCP Zrakor
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Posted - 2007.06.28 11:16:00 -
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I believe this is the result of how our distribution system works. If people are constantly doing exploration sites in certain constellations, but nobody is doing them in other related constellations, the exploration sites will eventually 'move' to the areas where nobody is doing them. Hence it is very important to move around a lot when exploring, if you only focus on a small area then eventually the exploration sites there will dry up.
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d026
THE LEGION OF STEEL WARRIORS.... R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.06.28 11:27:00 -
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Ok, so i have to cover more regions.. anyway i'd like to know if it makes sense to scann more than once (as you have to do with regular probes)?
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The Snowman
Gallente Black Mithril Holdings
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Posted - 2007.06.28 11:47:00 -
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Im fairly new to looking for exploration sites.. But when I pick a system I tend to just keep an eye on 'activity' any system (or area) which has a particularly low activity I pick out.
As for scanning multiple times.. well, if your multi-frequency scan of a system reports some signitures, and your simply not findind them.. then yes!.. do them them again.. or make sure you have good coverage.
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Metaller
Ocean Dynamics Dark Matter Coalition
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Posted - 2007.06.28 12:43:00 -
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Originally by: d026 Ok, so i have to cover more regions.. anyway i'd like to know if it makes sense to scann more than once (as you have to do with regular probes)?
Originally by: d026 Ok, so i have to cover more regions.. anyway i'd like to know if it makes sense to scann more than once (as you have to do with regular probes)?
yes it does make sense, since the better the encounter is, the small is its sig radius and therefore its sig strength when scanning. To my knowledge to good encounters have sig strengths of around 0.3. so you should do about 3 scans per planet to make sure you dont miss the good ones and only find the bad ones.
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Le Bon
Gallente Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.06.28 13:17:00 -
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Warp into a system, drop a multispec probe. If it comes up with "unknown" results your system has encounters.
Goto the planets.. use onboard.. scan up.. enjoy.
Maybe your just terribly unlucky but i usually find about 4-6 accross 3 systems most of the time..
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OneSock
Silentia Mortalis Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.28 14:20:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Zrakor I believe this is the result of how our distribution system works. If people are constantly doing exploration sites in certain constellations, but nobody is doing them in other related constellations, the exploration sites will eventually 'move' to the areas where nobody is doing them. Hence it is very important to move around a lot when exploring, if you only focus on a small area then eventually the exploration sites there will dry up.
Do these "related constellations" span highsec/lowsec/nosec boundaries ? Or do the sites always stay within the same region ?
Just wondering what the rules are with the distribution mechanism. Does it mean that there will be less encounters in populated regions such as Sinq Laison/essence, and more end up in verge vendor/everyshore ?
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The Snowman
Gallente Black Mithril Holdings
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Posted - 2007.06.28 14:40:00 -
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Is the onboard scanner any good at finding encounters?
I assumed that really you had to have proper probes. Ive yet to pick up anything with the onboard
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Pakalolo
Tha Shiznit
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Posted - 2007.06.28 16:10:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Zrakor how our distribution system works
Does this apply to "true" exploration sites as well - Gravi, Magneto, Radar?
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agrajag119
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Posted - 2007.06.28 21:06:00 -
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yes, please clarify what the boundaries are. I had thought that they were limited to a constelation. I.E. in constelation Foo there are X # of sites. So now you're saying they are spread out from a wider pool of options? If so, that stinks for 0.0 ops where you try to keep your own litte area safe, but others may be very nasty.
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vidax
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Posted - 2007.06.28 22:31:00 -
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Well you are sitting in your own little secure area of 0.0 you are not really exploring are you?
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Helison
Gallente Times of Ancar THE R0NIN
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Posted - 2007.06.28 22:53:00 -
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It seems like several (parts of) regions of the same security class are within one distribution.
I would for example expect that all 0.0 space, which have Guristas rats, are in the same distribution. Perhaps there is an additional distribution for system below -0.5 (donŠt have much experience with these systems).
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Rangkai
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Posted - 2007.06.28 23:12:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Zrakor I believe this is the result of how our distribution system works. If people are constantly doing exploration sites in certain constellations, but nobody is doing them in other related constellations, the exploration sites will eventually 'move' to the areas where nobody is doing them. Hence it is very important to move around a lot when exploring, if you only focus on a small area then eventually the exploration sites there will dry up.
Ah.. this is very useful information.. I've been sticking to the same 5 or so systems.. and noticed there seems to be less and less spawning. I shall pack my ammo and try elsewhere.
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the blender
the Gentleman Loser
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Posted - 2007.06.28 23:28:00 -
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Added to that are the bugged sites, I have over 5 ecounters that wont despawn after several days, do these affect the disribution?. And should we petition them?.
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Nimitz Alexander
Infinity Enterprises Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.06.29 00:22:00 -
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yeah there appears to be one specific sansha site that is either always empty, or never despawns. 2 armories, 2 bunkers, 2 walls and 2 lookouts is all thats in a half dozen ive found,
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Rangkai
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Posted - 2007.06.29 01:26:00 -
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Originally by: the blender Added to that are the bugged sites, I have over 5 ecounters that wont despawn after several days, do these affect the disribution?. And should we petition them?.
I hate hate hate these.. especially since I try to clear a system out of encounters then drop a multispec so I know if there are any better unknowns to find. It ends up being a waste of probes of the encounters do not despawn first.
I submitted a bug report for a couple.. hopefully they are fixed in any upcoming patches
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Toria Nynys
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.06.29 01:56:00 -
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Amusing anecdote. I've been scanning for encounters in various systems, (highsec) with 0 success. Then on a lark I scanned at a gate in Otou. Found 3 encounters withing 5au of the *gate*. All 3 of strength .3.
So, the moral of the story -- if you want encounters, head to prat-infested waters. =)
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Devian 666
Axe Gang
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Posted - 2007.06.29 03:22:00 -
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I was being told about an encounter site in 0.0 over a chat channel so I thought I'd give it a go in high sec. I undocked ran the 30s scan and found a site. Shot down some drones and a structure. More fun that the plex that used to be in the system and similar difficulty. The ammo reward was about what you'd expect.
Overall I think non-farmable content is a big bonus and more fun than just ratting. A bonus for those of us that don't play afk. I agree I don't have the features to be a holoreel star. Most people have missed the point that this is Mobsters Online and that carebears are at the bottom of the foodchain. |
syphurous
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.06.29 03:57:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Zrakor I believe this is the result of how our distribution system works. If people are constantly doing exploration sites in certain constellations, but nobody is doing them in other related constellations, the exploration sites will eventually 'move' to the areas where nobody is doing them. Hence it is very important to move around a lot when exploring, if you only focus on a small area then eventually the exploration sites there will dry up.
So basically they're all going to end up in systems where no one can access and where no one bothers doing them. EG Olide in Everyshore ( Correct ? ) its a .7 surrounded with low sec and the way in is camped. No one will bother doing exploration in there. So they will all pool up in similar sytems and the rest of high sec will get nothing. ______________________________
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Happydayz
FATAL REVELATIONS FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.29 09:14:00 -
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Originally by: syphurous
So basically they're all going to end up in systems where no one can access and where no one bothers doing them. EG Olide in Everyshore ( Correct ? ) its a .7 surrounded with low sec and the way in is camped. No one will bother doing exploration in there. So they will all pool up in similar sytems and the rest of high sec will get nothing.
the low hanging fruit always gets picked first
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Garan Savlar
Gallente Twilight Operations
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Posted - 2007.06.29 09:38:00 -
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Originally by: Nimitz Alexander yeah there appears to be one specific sansha site that is either always empty, or never despawns. 2 armories, 2 bunkers, 2 walls and 2 lookouts is all thats in a half dozen ive found,
I've had a couple of empty sites too ... however, earlier today I read elsewhere that if you target and attack a structure, the rats come out to play. Give it a go. ------------------------------------------------
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FourthStorm
Shinra
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Posted - 2007.06.29 10:01:00 -
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Originally by: syphurous
So basically they're all going to end up in systems where no one can access and where no one bothers doing them. EG Olide in Everyshore ( Correct ? ) its a .7 surrounded with low sec and the way in is camped. No one will bother doing exploration in there. So they will all pool up in similar sytems and the rest of high sec will get nothing.
What are you worring about? I'm in my cloaked buzzard. No way the bad guys are going to find me. Find the spot. Wait until DT, bring in the heavy ships right after DT and complete the mission. All it needs is a little patience.
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The Snowman
Gallente Black Mithril Holdings
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Posted - 2007.06.29 10:23:00 -
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Originally by: Toria Nynys prat-infested waters. =)
LOL
Interesting point though, most guides I read say that encounters are usually within 5AU of PLANETS!.. maybe this has been extended to stargates, spacestations, moons and asteroid belts?... Hell.. If I leave my ship in a safe spot for long enough maybe one will spawn within 5au of ME? :D
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Venkul Mul
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.06.29 11:03:00 -
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Originally by: The Snowman Is the onboard scanner any good at finding encounters?
I assumed that really you had to have proper probes. Ive yet to pick up anything with the onboard
With a little luck, and spamming the scan button multiple times while clearing a Sanshe encounter I had found before, I did found a professional site Shansha hacking site 1 low sec (or something similar), with 1 decriptor and some other stuff. About 20 million worth of items all counted.
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Venkul Mul
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.06.29 11:26:00 -
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Originally by: Happydayz
Originally by: syphurous
So basically they're all going to end up in systems where no one can access and where no one bothers doing them. EG Olide in Everyshore ( Correct ? ) its a .7 surrounded with low sec and the way in is camped. No one will bother doing exploration in there. So they will all pool up in similar sytems and the rest of high sec will get nothing.
the low hanging fruit always gets picked first
Yea, but the next year it regrow, like the others fruits.
Here, apparently, the sites will continue to move untill they are only in the hardest to reach location and will not move from here.
To make an example, I have found a very nice exploration site full of jaspet, omber and kernite in a 0.5 system, about 40 big roids each. After a quick check with a roid scanner I have evalutated the time needed to mine it all for me in several hundred hours with my covetor .
As reaching the system require some low sec jump, people in my corp don't want to move here exumers or mining barges (with rigs, so not transportable by industrial).
So the site it is mined in my leisure hours by my second character in the background, while my primary character is doing other things. That mean it will be mined for months and it will not despawn for all that time. That if after mining the jaspet I will bother to mine the other minerals.
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