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Asuka Solo
Stark Fujikawa Stark Enterprises
1050
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Posted - 2012.01.08 07:26:00 -
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Stop voting for testi or goons CSM candidates.
watch them fail at eve. |
Halcyon Ingenium
Infomorph Research and Technology
120
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Posted - 2012.01.08 07:39:00 -
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met worst wrote:Sirinda wrote:Eh, I'll just make a fortune selling tinfoil. Seriously, you keep telling yourself that. Whose gonna stop 'em?
The same thing that stopped everyone else who "owned all the wealth in the game", entropy. But then people would have to have a functional memory or an ability to research the past to know that. That which always was, and is, and will be everlasting fire, the same for all, the cosmos, made neither by god nor man, replenishes in measure as it burns away. -Heraclitus |
Tallianna Avenkarde
Beasts of Burden
213
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Posted - 2012.01.08 07:43:00 -
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o.O
A good percentage of people were calling for the super nerf, they were way OP and posed such a risk to smaller alliances that they basically CAUSED the nullsec stagnation that has untill recently been seen. Hell i personally don't think they have gone far enough.
It amazes me that people say the super nerf was all because of mittens. hell pandemic legion has 2 members on the CSM, they are probably one of the most super heavy alliances in the game, don't you think they would have had as much influence on CCP as mittens if they wanted them to stay the way they were? The fact of the matter is supers were the I WIN button in eve, and needed to be knocked down a bit.
And a sudden plunge in the sullen swell. Ten fathoms deep on the road to hell. |
met worst
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
29
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Posted - 2012.01.08 08:08:00 -
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Ladie Harlot wrote:met worst wrote:PS: Of course. That's ONLY if Mittens continues to declare his wonderful CSM achievements and "fair treatment" of ALL Eve players as he rides his war elephant into battle to control MORE of Eve's wealth. Can you name a case of him or anybody on the CSM doing something that was unfair to any group of people in Eve? Something other than getting supers nerfed because I have a sneaking suspicion you aren't able to be objective about that particular issue.. The point was made several times by many that the strength of the DRF supercap fleet was the only thing stopping Goons. It is FAR too much of a co-incidence that the drive for the north came on the back of that nerf but not before. This is all too pat and smacks of pre-planned conivance between supposed enemies and a hijacking of a CSM agenda under an auspice of "fairness".
As for someone stating that 2 x PL were on the CSM to "balance" the view. Pfft. Whose side are they actually on anyway? Have the lines been drawn yet?
Besides, dissecting individual scap victories as a reason for the nerf are and were invalid. Goons could have fielded just as many scaps as anyone else and chose not to. It's a case of change the game so we can win. It happened and it's happening.
Absolutely convinced that CCP were played here and I'll stand by my "conspiracy theory" until proven otherwise. |
Halcyon Ingenium
Infomorph Research and Technology
120
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Posted - 2012.01.08 08:10:00 -
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met worst wrote:
Absolutely convinced that CCP were played here and I'll stand by my "conspiracy theory" until proven otherwise.
Actually your the one with the conspiracy, so if you want anyone else to care its up to you to convince us. Also, it is categorically impossible to prove a negative assertion, even this one. So you'll be standing for a while.
That which always was, and is, and will be everlasting fire, the same for all, the cosmos, made neither by god nor man, replenishes in measure as it burns away. -Heraclitus |
Jafit McJafitson
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
109
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Posted - 2012.01.08 08:58:00 -
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Asuka Solo wrote:Stop voting for testi or goons CSM candidates.
watch them fail at eve.
Yes... we're so successful because we manipulate the game through the CSM. That's why we've got a game full of overpowered supercapitals and we rely mostly on sub-caps. Supers still murder subcaps.
Shall I tell you why we're successful? It's because we don't take Eve at all seriously. We're terrible at this game and we know it.
Come to Hakonen and sit cloaked off the 7-7 station. Watch us engage a hostile gang 100km off the station, we'll wander over there in a hap-hazzard fasion one by one and the wrecks will pile up, before realising 'hey guys, maybe we should fleet up and, y'know, co-operate?'
We'll send a 150 man alpha fleet up against White Noise and Raiden knowing full well that Raiden have their supercaps logged on and ready to drop on us, but it's Friday night and we've been shooting structures all week so f*ck it , let's do it anyway, and laugh while they press the win button before they spam 'gf gf gf gf gf o7o7o7o7o7o7m8m8m8m8m8m8' in local.
We read corpmails and forum posts from other alliances courtesy of our spies, CEOs sperging out over sh*t-fits and embarassing lossmails. Meanwhile our KB has a weekly hall of shame at the top showcasing our most expensive losses (Farewell morale Kronos, you will be missed). Not a week goes by in Fountain that we don't lose a 3 Tengus or an Archon because some dumbass was ratting while there were neutrals in local.
So we aren't easily affected by ingame defeat, our community is more important than ingame events. You can kill our internet spaceships, take our sov, kill our supers if we had any, but you'll never take away our local-spam, fleetchat p0rn, or our Teamspeak concerts. |
Tore Vest
Vikinghall
132
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Posted - 2012.01.08 09:01:00 -
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Have CCP/goons won allreaddy ? wow.... that was fast |
Samantha Utama
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
35
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Posted - 2012.01.08 09:12:00 -
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met worst wrote:Sirinda wrote:Eh, I'll just make a fortune selling tinfoil. Seriously, you keep telling yourself that. Whose gonna stop 'em?
I've heard of this United Hisec Front alliance that may be the goon's downfall. |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1503
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Posted - 2012.01.08 09:14:00 -
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because the CFC doesn't have a supercapital fleet lawl
the developers didn't have the foresight to realize that hundreds of supercapitals would be in the game, they realized that they were no longer rare, they got nerfed, and hopefully iterative rebalancing will repurpose the ships. oh man, that must be so hard to wrap your head around. |
Scatim Helicon
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
224
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Posted - 2012.01.08 09:14:00 -
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had to check this wasn't a thread bumped from 2008 ~If you want a picture of the future of WiS, imagine a spaceship, stamping on an avatar's face. Forever. |
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Schalac
Apocalypse Reign
12
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Posted - 2012.01.08 09:36:00 -
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The goons will never own nullsec because they are too weak to even own themselves. Soon as the pie gets big enough every one of them will be going for the biggest piece and destroy the whole thing in the process. |
baltec1
434
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Posted - 2012.01.08 09:57:00 -
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I do like pie. |
Large Collidable Object
morons.
903
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Posted - 2012.01.08 09:59:00 -
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met worst wrote:When the Goons own it all?
No worries - they'll forget to pay their sov bill eventually.
Anyway - in case they should become the dominant force in 0.0 I'm less worried than if other alliances would.
Unlike Vuk's RMT empire which never did anything, they'll put the money to good use and mess up someones day - if they don't, they'll all become inactive due to boredom and - well - forget to pay their sov bill.
Also I doubt they'd hold the entire north even if they could conquer it all - maybe keep all the tech and install some horrendous renter pet, kinda like R.A.G.E. or ME who will eventually grow big-headed and do something incredibly stupid. morons- sting like a butterfly and-ápost like a bee. |
Hainnz
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
42
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Posted - 2012.01.08 10:24:00 -
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I can't imagine too many people care about who controls null as long as they can afford ships and modules. I'd rather Goons own it all out there rather than some group of pretentious d-bags. |
Treks Shadow
Viziam Amarr Empire
180
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Posted - 2012.01.08 10:58:00 -
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met worst wrote:When the Goons own it all?
Does a serious threat exist for all 0.0 alliances if Goons take the entire north region. They will have secured most of the wealth in game.
Whether you think CSM manipulation helped this along or not, will it be a threat to the game?
>>> Ctrl Lock, F1, F2, F3 your responses BEFORE the Goons get here...... QUICK!!!
Of course the csm has a lot to do with it. consider mittens has been on the csm for years. and they have ccp employees in the alliance as well. if you ask me i think that is a form of insider trading and shouldnt be allowed. that combination is just too much imho. try that anywhere else and your ass would be in a court of law so fast it wouldnt even be funny. and on the note of the csm members of the "elite" group should have term limits like for example mittens has been there 3-4 years straight. that needs to go. NO BACK TO BACK TERMS. and no csm members can serve more then twice in 5 years, eve if its on a alt. i reallt think you eve players need to wake up to what is going on with this csm it is a scam and is ruining eve |
Tallianna Avenkarde
Beasts of Burden
220
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Posted - 2012.01.08 15:19:00 -
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Treks Shadow wrote:
Of course the csm has a lot to do with it. consider mittens has been on the csm for years. and they have ccp employees in the alliance as well. if you ask me i think that is a form of insider trading and shouldnt be allowed. that combination is just too much imho. try that anywhere else and your ass would be in a court of law so fast it wouldnt even be funny. and on the note of the csm members of the "elite" group should have term limits like for example mittens has been there 3-4 years straight. that needs to go. NO BACK TO BACK TERMS. and no csm members can serve more then twice in 5 years, eve if its on a alt. i reallt think you eve players need to wake up to what is going on with this csm it is a scam and is ruining eve
congratulations, you win the award for most uninformed post in the thread! And a sudden plunge in the sullen swell. Ten fathoms deep on the road to hell. |
Morganta
Peripheral Madness The Midget Mafia
767
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Posted - 2012.01.08 15:23:00 -
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what's a goon?
I only ever see groons The American public's reaction to the change was poor and the new cola was a major marketing failure. The subsequent reintroduction of Coke's original formula, re-branded as "Coca-Cola Classic", resulted in a significant gain in sales, leading to speculation that the introduction of the New Coke formula was just a marketing ploy |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
4305
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Posted - 2012.01.08 15:25:00 -
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Treks Shadow wrote:Of course the csm has a lot to do with it. consider mittens has been on the csm for years. and they have ccp employees in the alliance as well. if you ask me i think that is a form of insider trading and shouldnt be allowed. that combination is just too much imho. try that anywhere else and your ass would be in a court of law so fast it wouldnt even be funny. and on the note of the csm members of the "elite" group should have term limits like for example mittens has been there 3-4 years straight. that needs to go. NO BACK TO BACK TERMS. and no csm members can serve more then twice in 5 years, eve if its on a alt. i reallt think you eve players need to wake up to what is going on with this csm it is a scam and is ruining eve I have to ask: were you trying to get every single fact wrong, or was that just by accident? GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
Mikalia Sunstorm
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
0
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Posted - 2012.01.08 15:37:00 -
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They have the attention-spans of gnats, and brains to match, most of them. IOW, nothing will change except the names on the "sovereignty" thingy...for a while, anyway.
That's how it is in the world of 1337-PvP!!!!111oneone!!11! |
KrakizBad
Eve Defence Force Fatal Ascension
172
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Posted - 2012.01.08 15:42:00 -
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Treks Shadow wrote:Of course the csm has a lot to do with it. consider mittens has been on the csm for years. and they have ccp employees in the alliance as well. if you ask me i think that is a form of insider trading and shouldnt be allowed. that combination is just too much imho. try that anywhere else and your ass would be in a court of law so fast it wouldnt even be funny. and on the note of the csm members of the "elite" group should have term limits like for example mittens has been there 3-4 years straight. that needs to go. NO BACK TO BACK TERMS. and no csm members can serve more then twice in 5 years, eve if its on a alt. i reallt think you eve players need to wake up to what is going on with this csm it is a scam and is ruining eve
With this level of badposting under your belt, you should really consider joining Goons yourself. Also, +1 for posting the dumbest thing I've seen since "my thrasher died to a broadsword and it's unfair." http://dl.dropbox.com/u/39006524/DumbHiseccers.jpg |
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Mikalia Sunstorm
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
0
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Posted - 2012.01.08 15:45:00 -
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met worst wrote:Elessa Enaka wrote:CCP pushes the reset button on everything in 0.0 or watches as the sandbox withers and dies from stagnation And I concur. I am deadly serious when I recall all the events leading up to this point. From the fall of NC (by "ironically" a huge chunk of WN), to GSF letting NC fall, to cap nerfs to WN being the first to go (with some of the largest WN corps jumping to - GSF?). Too many co-incidences for a conspiracy theory although I will entertain that thought as well. It's a discussion point, not a fact sheet on Eve politics. Why post this? What would be the Holy Grail? The ultimate Eve experience? Please consider.
Who gives a **** about nullsec?
(And doesn't this thread belong in that cesspit known as CAOD?)
@CCP: Tin-foil BPO, we can haz, pls? Kthxbai.
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Ira Theos
Viziam Amarr Empire
29
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Posted - 2012.01.08 15:46:00 -
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Elessa Enaka wrote:CCP pushes the reset button on everything in 0.0 or watches as the sandbox withers and dies from stagnation
What are you talking about? The sandbox is already withered and dead from stagnation, so are you asking where we go from here? Pesonally, I've already unsubbed and am just spending isk on PLEX to complain about it on the forums in the vain hope that CCP will correct things before Eve completely dries up and blows away. Not really expecting this to happen though. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
4305
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Posted - 2012.01.08 15:49:00 -
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Ira Theos wrote:[Pesonally, I've already unsubbed and am just spending isk on PLEX to complain about it on the forums Double win: they make more money and doesn't have to provide the actual service. You sure are hurting them there.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
Ira Theos
Viziam Amarr Empire
29
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Posted - 2012.01.08 15:51:00 -
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Vyl Vit wrote:The point is, why were the Goons and Russkies the only ones to take advantage of the huge vacume left by BoB's disappearance. Seeing them fill that hole NOW is a bit too late. Where were you when it was time to get in on the party?
Maybe that's a bit vague. As long as nobody else attempts a serious run at them, they'll sit in the catbird seat, assuming they don't respond in kind. It's what wars are made from, contention. I remember when the Goons were barely squeaking by. But, they persisted, and it paid off. Why should they be criticized for being effective? Why should the game be criticized if its dynamics afford such an opportunity to those who dare take it?
The remedy is to be just as effective...or moreso if you wish to tip the scale. It's all there waiting to be done. Do it.
Keep smoking that loco weed and it will wither your brain. On the other hand, it has put you in such a fog that you still believe what you said is possible. So I guess stupified oblivion has it's upside. |
Mikalia Sunstorm
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
0
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Posted - 2012.01.08 15:59:00 -
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met worst wrote: [...] Who's gonna give a crap?
Fixed.
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Ira Theos
Viziam Amarr Empire
29
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Posted - 2012.01.08 16:06:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Ira Theos wrote:[Pesonally, I've already unsubbed and am just spending isk on PLEX to complain about it on the forums Double win: they make more money and doesn't have to provide the actual service. You sure are hurting them there.
Was that a gnat I heard buzzing?? (Waives gnat away.) |
Zimmy Zeta
Battle Force Industries Tactical Invader Syndicate
632
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Posted - 2012.01.08 16:38:00 -
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met worst wrote:When the Goons own it all?
The game will be renamed into "Something Evful" things to do in eve: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-SZYZLfZ7E&feature=g-like&context=G2d6d016ALTmOeXwACAA |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
4306
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Posted - 2012.01.08 16:45:00 -
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Ira Theos wrote:Was that a gnat I heard buzzing?? No, that was CCP's cash register announcing the double profit they made by getting more money than they otherwise would and saving money by not having to give anything in return.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
Lady Spank
GET OUT NASTY FACE
858
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Posted - 2012.01.08 16:55:00 -
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Empires won by conquest have always fallen either by revolt within or by defeat by a rival. (a¦á_a¦â) ~ http://getoutnastyface.blogspot.com/ ~ (a¦á_a¦â) -áGÖÑ New Years Resolution ~ Cease thy Smacktalk GÖÑ |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1507
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Posted - 2012.01.08 17:08:00 -
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Schalac wrote:The goons will never own nullsec because they are too weak to even own themselves. Soon as the pie gets big enough every one of them will be going for the biggest piece and destroy the whole thing in the process.
oh yes, everything about goonswarm is totally indicative of an alliance on the verge of disintegrating
why don't you headshot VFK about it lol
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