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Ugleb
Sarz'na Khumatari Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2012.01.08 13:32:00 -
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Early on in the Arek'jaalan Project, CONCORD issued a decree forbidding participating Capsuleers from prying into CONCORD's affairs within the Monalaz constellation. The members of Arek'jaalan agreed to abide by CONCORD's wishes and have by and large steered clear from then on.
While this was interesting, it was of limited interest to myself my comrades. That was until we more recently came across a second piece of information; that whatever has been going on in Monalaz was not simply a CONCORD affair. We heard rumour of Amarrian special ops forces alongside DED operatives.
Over the past week myself and a few of my Ushra'Khan brothers have mounted an investigation into Monalaz. After some searching we discovered some...curious information. CONCORD is indeed active within the Monalaz constellation, and they have been working closely with Amarrian special forces known as 'The Justicars'.
We have discovered multiple sites of activity and found that this 'Operation ISHAEKA' is adept at relocating operations swiftly upon discovery. And at covering their tracks. On the evening of January 6th, a three ship strike team consisting of myself, StarCasher and Marus Sulla penetrated the outer defences of this clandestine facility within the Access system and engaged the Imperial 'Justicar' forces there. The CONCORD units immediately joined the engagement alongside their Amarrian wingmen.
We pushed on deeper inside the deadspace pocket to discover a fleet staging area protecting entrance to a Justicar Archive. As the local forces moved to engage us, the base commander broadcast the following message, clearly enacting a well-rehearsed emergency doctrine;
Quote:We are under heavy attack! Capsuleers are breaching our staging area!
All local files are to be transferred immediately from the archives to a secure location offsite. Initiate burn protocols for all hard data. DED forces will delay the capsuleer incursion at the staging area until we can secure all intelligence.
All remaining forces, rally to the archives!
Once we had fought our way past the DED vessels, we found the now-purged archives and another contingent of Justicar vessels. And with them, the Monalaz Commander himself, piloting nothing less than an Imperial Issue Apocalypse, a vessel only gifted to the most favoured of the Empire.
I put it to the summit that an Amarrian military unit is intrinsically involved in, and possibly even directing, the execution of a CONCORD DED operation. It is now over a year since we protested CONCORD's Amarrian bias in Yulai, and now over three years since Ambassador Keitan Yun's historic address before the CONCORD Assembly. What do we see today? Imperial forces covertly exerting undue influence upon DED operations.
We call upon CONCORD to explain the actions of its forces and the involvement of these 'Justicars' within the DED. Why are DED forces guarding an Amarrian facility? Why is the Commander of this facility apparently an Imperial officer?
We call upon the Tribes, the Republic, their representative in the CONCORD Assembly and the Capsuleer community to join us in pursuing answers to these questions.
Our eye shall remain upon CONCORD and upon those who would subvert its duty. A year ago the Ushra'Khan gathered in Yulai to make peaceful protest, but if needs be, we are prepared to take further direct action to shed light upon this impropriety.
We shall continue our investigations, and welcome any information on this matter. What is the DED going to such lengths to hide from us in Monalaz? http://uglebsjournal.wordpress.com/ |
Akrasjel Lanate
Naquatech Conglomerate
489
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Posted - 2012.01.08 15:14:00 -
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Well it's still Amarr territory and i can understand what are they doing there, if that would happen in the Federation territory i would want our goverment to do similar as the Amarr. |
Aquila Shadow
The Synenose Accord Celestial Imperative
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Posted - 2012.01.08 15:18:00 -
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Congratulations on destroying one of the few remaining task forces set up by CONCORD to help put a stop to the sansha incursions into empire space. You should feel very proud in killing officers who had put there lives on the line to help protect the inocent people of all the empires. The reason for CONCORD working with Amarrian special forces is because sansha has been conducting opperations in the systems around the eve gate system. As you know these systems are in AMARR controled space. It was only logical that CONCORD work with the empire to help put a stop to Nation activities in the area.
UshraGÇÖKhan should be slightly more carful about killing officers of the law if they know what is good for them.
((On an OOC point if you travell to the monalaz system via hi-sec you get a neocom message telling you about this. im not sure you get this message in low sec.)) |
N'maro Makari
The Synenose Accord Celestial Imperative
30
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Posted - 2012.01.08 15:26:00 -
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I concur with my colleague, this kind of disunity and suspicion among capsuleers is exactly what Sansha's Nation wants. N'maro Makari Special Investigative Officer The Synenose Accord Celestial Imperative |
Ugleb
Sarz'na Khumatari Ushra'Khan
151
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Posted - 2012.01.08 15:48:00 -
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Aquila Shadow wrote:UshraGÇÖKhan should be slightly more carful about killing officers of the law if they know what is good for them.
The 'law' as you put it has been adding to their track record of displaying bias towards the Empire. If this is a CONCORD operation, why then does it appear to be under the command of Amarr? CONCORD is a supposedly neutral entity that is above the authority of any one government.
Can you point to a single comparable circumstance as this? Who are these Justicars, by whose authority are they acting and what grants them the protection of DED forces in a low sec area like this?
It is the capsuleers who are fighting the war against Sansha, and in all our recon flights of the area we detected no Sansha presence there. So what is really going on here? http://uglebsjournal.wordpress.com/ |
Aquila Shadow
The Synenose Accord Celestial Imperative
4
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Posted - 2012.01.08 16:31:00 -
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Ugleb wrote:Aquila Shadow wrote:UshraGÇÖKhan should be slightly more carful about killing officers of the law if they know what is good for them. The 'law' as you put it has been adding to their track record of displaying bias towards the Empire. If this is a CONCORD operation, why then does it appear to be under the command of Amarr? CONCORD is a supposedly neutral entity that is above the authority of any one government. Can you point to a single comparable circumstance as this? Who are these Justicars, by whose authority are they acting and what grants them the protection of DED forces in a low sec area like this? It is the capsuleers who are fighting the war against Sansha, and in all our recon flights of the area we detected no Sansha presence there. So what is really going on here?
To quote Aura
"In this dark new era of SanshaGÇÖs Nation incursions, the Monalaz constellation has become home to the most well-funded and notable anti-Sansha taskforce, Operation ISHAEKA (Intaki for GÇ£Leader TwoGÇ¥).
ISHAEKA represents a multinational effort to coordinate forces against Sansha Kuvakei and oppose his twisted, dystopian visions of conformity and slavish obedience. The tactical response unit is comprised primarily of DED captains, but it is also supplemented by a contingent of elite combat veterans from the Tash-Murkon region. These soldiers are known only as the Justiciars.
The ISHAEKA taskforce is believed to have relocated to the Monalaz constellation shortly after the conclusion of the first phase of their operation. During Phase One, the taskforce was deployed to the Stain region. Rumors persist that the Justiciars learned something of NationGÇÖs plans while on deployment, and that their choice to relocate to Monalaz, of all places, speaks volumes about what they may have discovered."
Like i said before. Well done on killing those who are trying to help. |
Graelyn
Amarrian Retribution
168
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Posted - 2012.01.08 16:49:00 -
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Why sensible people are here trying to talk sense into hate-mongers, I'll never know. + Cardinal Graelyn + Owner/Operator, "The Summit" YR113 Amarr Loyalist of the Year
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Aquila Shadow
The Synenose Accord Celestial Imperative
4
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Posted - 2012.01.08 16:53:00 -
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Graelyn wrote:Why sensible people are here trying to talk sense into hate-mongers, I'll never know.
Some one has to try, Enough blood has been spilled over this. |
Uraniae Fehrnah
Viziam Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.01.08 17:06:00 -
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Generally speaking, even if the people you speak to may never be convinced, if you continue to try you will invariably end up convincing other people who are quietly watching the whole thing.
As for the DED cooperation with the Justicars, it's already been said that as the area of operations is within Amarr territory it only makes sense to cooperate with Amarrian forces. If the DED brought in a detachment of Federation or Republic loyal forces then the DED would be responsible for any and all possible misdeeds that might occur. Now I'm not saying a Federation or a Republic loyal force would officially go off mission and attempt to disrupt Empire operations in the area, but even one misguided soldier can make for a heated diplomatic incident. The Justicars are being used simply because it is Amarrian space and the Justicars naturally have a vested interest in that space and it's people. They quite simply have one less possible cause for distraction.
Further the Justicars were part of the forces who went down to Stain. They were part of the force that has been dealing with renewed Sansha activity, and even low-level Sansha activity that the Empire has had to deal with since the Empires united against Nation originally. They are the people who are, under the circumstances, right for the job. Would you rather call in a different unit with little or no experience dealing with the Sansha? That wouldn't exactly be sound tactical thinking. |
Caellach Marellus
Nephtys Ventures inc
383
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Posted - 2012.01.08 17:11:00 -
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Utter stupidity.
Taskforce ISHAEKA was created purely in responce to the developing activity (at the time) of Sansha's Nation, with the situation now at a regular Incursion basis ISHAEKA's work is as invaluable as ever. For whatever reason they have settled in the Monalaz constellation it is their base of operations, and it lies within Amarrian sovereign territory.
Putting it bluntly, the Amarrians have every right to be there, it's a high security complex within their own space and a very juicy target for Nation forces. It's only logical that an elite unit from the Amarrian Empire would be on watch there to assist and protect, as well as overwatch purely because no Empire with a sane mind would let such a complex work within it's space unchecked.
Do you have any solid evidence to suggest that the ISHAEKA site in Monalaz is CONCORD being run under the thumb of the Amarrian Empire? Because it seems more likely that your blind hatred led you to jumping to conclusions.
Great job, I'm sure Kuvakei is celebrating your ever vigilant work. |
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Aquila Shadow
The Synenose Accord Celestial Imperative
4
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Posted - 2012.01.08 17:13:00 -
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its actualy in low sec but i completly agree with you. |
Myxx
Atropos Group Blood Right
475
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Posted - 2012.01.08 17:46:00 -
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Well thats interesting.
Edit: Doing research at the moment, I have a feeling its been staring at us right in the face for a while now. |
Caellach Marellus
Nephtys Ventures inc
383
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Posted - 2012.01.08 18:01:00 -
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Aquila Shadow wrote:its actualy in low sec but i completly agree with you.
High security complex, not a high security system. |
Vallek Arkonnis
Cosmic Cimmerians The G0dfathers
80
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Posted - 2012.01.08 18:21:00 -
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So you took warships into Amarrian space, you came upon DED and Amarrian ships, engaged and destroyed them, all after being told not to go there in the first place. And YOU want an explanation for their actions? Regardless of how much you terrorists love to play the victim you are the agressors here. For all we know, you're at least implicitly, if not explicitly, allying yourselves with the Nation against the Empire by purposefully attacking this installation to weaken the Empire against it, and are now playing dumb. What really needs explaining is the lack of response against you for acts of war against the DED. |
Myxx
Atropos Group Blood Right
475
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Posted - 2012.01.08 18:24:00 -
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Vallek Arkonnis wrote:So you took warships into Amarrian space, you came upon DED and Amarrian ships, engaged and destroyed them, all after being told not to go there in the first place. And YOU want an explanation for their actions? Regardless of how much you terrorists love to play the victim you are the agressors here. For all we know, you're at least implicitly, if not explicitly, allying yourselves with the Nation against the Empire by purposefully attacking this installation to weaken the Empire against it, and are now playing dumb. What really needs explaining is the lack of response against you for acts of war against the DED.
I'm not so sure that we're being told the full truth. |
Valerie Valate
Church of The Crimson Saviour
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Posted - 2012.01.08 18:59:00 -
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So, Ushra'Khan has now allied itself with Sansha's Nation ?
Gives a new meaning to that whole "we come for 'our' people" thing, doesn't it ?
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Khazarn Areth
The Black Pigs The Black Pigs Alliance
74
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Posted - 2012.01.08 19:10:00 -
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Its seems like this Matari gentlemen has made a little mistake in choosing his targets carefully. Bloody Omir's coming back Monsters from the endless black Wading through a crimson flood Omir's come to drink your blood |
Marus Sulla
Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan
0
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Posted - 2012.01.08 19:20:00 -
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I doubt very much our raid has had any effect on ISHAKEA at all. I expect there HQ is fully operation once more. They were after all well drilled to EXPECT capsuleer attack.
You see when I hear Sansha, CONCORD and Amarr in the same sentence I get very itchy. What we are after is information. What is being hidden from us? Our opinion of CONCORD is a matter of public record.
That someone thinks we are in anyway allied with Sansha really should take a planetside break.
Again I'll repeat Uglebs appeal for information. If any capsuleers have any do get in contact.
Until then we will continue to act as we see fit.
Regards,
Marus |
Balthazar Baraz
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2012.01.08 19:21:00 -
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Oh well done Ushra'Khan - it appears you've proved us all right, you are nothing more than terrorists with a distaste for law and order and a desire to see everyone enslaved by Mr. Kuvakei.
Blinded by your own ignorance and hatred. |
Valerie Valate
Church of The Crimson Saviour
47
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Posted - 2012.01.08 19:38:00 -
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Marus Sulla wrote: allied with Sansha
Ishaeka is a Concord task force, against Sansha's Nation schemes.
You engaged Ishaeka forces, to look for "information".
Information which no doubt Sansha would be interested in, such as the nature of Ishaeka forces, their operational methods, all manner of whathaveyou.
Which you seemingly intend to broadcast to all, which naturally will include Sansha's Nation, thereby harming efforts against Nation, and benefiting Nation's schemes.
Your actions are benefiting Nation. Are we not to take that as a sign of support for Nation ?
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Khazarn Areth
The Black Pigs The Black Pigs Alliance
74
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Posted - 2012.01.08 19:42:00 -
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Marus Sulla wrote:I doubt very much our raid has had any effect on ISHAKEA at all. I expect there HQ is fully operation once more. They were after all well drilled to EXPECT capsuleer attack.
You see when I hear Sansha, CONCORD and Amarr in the same sentence I get very itchy. What we are after is information. What is being hidden from us? Our opinion of CONCORD is a matter of public record.
That someone thinks we are in anyway allied with Sansha really should take a planetside break.
Again I'll repeat Uglebs appeal for information. If any capsuleers have any do get in contact.
Until then we will continue to act as we see fit.
Regards,
Marus
As much as i congratulate your attack and the casualties inflicted, you do come off as rather paranoid and it seems as though you attacked the said facility on a whim rather then looking into the situation more carefully. Bloody Omir's coming back Monsters from the endless black Wading through a crimson flood Omir's come to drink your blood |
Marus Sulla
Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan
0
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Posted - 2012.01.08 20:20:00 -
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It's only paranoia if they aren't out to get you, and, well, of course the Amarrians are.
We were well aware of the reaction such a raid could produce. It was no mere whim. |
Caellach Marellus
Nephtys Ventures inc
384
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Posted - 2012.01.08 20:24:00 -
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Marus Sulla wrote:It's only paranoia if they aren't out to get you, and, well, of course the Amarrians are.
We were well aware of the reaction such a raid could produce. It was no mere whim.
And CONCORD? I assume they're out to get you too right?
If you want information I suggest asking first, shooting second next time, rather than charging in like a bunch of reckless thugs. |
Katrina Oniseki
Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
294
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Posted - 2012.01.08 21:04:00 -
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This is so very disappointing.
I do hope Ushra'Khan is assisting with the incursion fights, because thanks to this, we'll likely be waiting longer for that facility to produce whatever it is they're working on.
Before you question my faith in CONCORD, don't. Just don't.
I would venture a guess that the work being done here is kept secret because Capsuleers cannot be trusted as a group. Individually, sure, but as a group, disseminating vital information regarding the war with the Sansha is strategic suicide. Between Nation sympathizers, spies, loose lips, and even pure stupidity... there is no way going public about the work being done there would be a good idea.
We Capsuleers have our role where we are most useful in the war. Fighting. Brute force among the stars.
Our failing is our complete inability to keep (or respect) classified information. This should be plainly evident by your blundering advances into DED classified facilities.
Nation would know everything we know about that facility within a matter of hours. Telling us is a bad idea. I am frankly glad they held you off long enough to purge their archives, because it means Nation won't have access to what materials you've put at risk.
I can only hope the setback they've suffered thanks to your actions does not put the entire cluster at extreme risk. |
Silas Vitalia
Khanid Provincial Vanguard
154
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Posted - 2012.01.08 21:09:00 -
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This attack should be suprising to exactly no one.
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Ugleb
Sarz'na Khumatari Ushra'Khan
151
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Posted - 2012.01.08 21:10:00 -
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Caellach Marellus wrote:Do you have any solid evidence to suggest that the ISHAEKA site in Monalaz is CONCORD being run under the thumb of the Amarrian Empire? Because it seems more likely that your blind hatred led you to jumping to conclusions.
I would assert the opposite, it was an Amarrian facility under guard by CONCORD. DED forces should not be used to defend Imperial assets, and CONCORd officers should not be under the command of Imperial forces, which given that the base Commander was piloting an Imperial Issue Apocalypse would seem to be the case.
If CONCORD is to fulfill its role, it must maintain neutrality. And that includes operational control of its own forces.
Vallek Arkonnis wrote:So you took warships into Amarrian space, you came upon DED and Amarrian ships, engaged and destroyed them, all after being told not to go there in the first place. And YOU want an explanation for their actions? Regardless of how much you terrorists love to play the victim you are the agressors here.
Incorrect assumptions. We are not members of the Arek'jaalan project, it is they who CONCORD saw fit to warn off from the area. We simply went in to conduct our own investigation.
Secondly, we engaged the Amarian military forces there, an action I feel well justified in given our state of war. The DED forces intervened, but I won't deny that I believed that they would. Regardless, I repeat my assertion; DED forces should not be used to protect Imperial assets. That is the duty of the sovereign power. http://uglebsjournal.wordpress.com/ |
Thgil Goldcore
PIE Inc.
306
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Posted - 2012.01.08 21:11:00 -
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So a Matari conducts an investigation and resorts to force immediately against concord forces. It attracts no attention from all the people who where so critical of my investigation. Funny isn't it. |
Tiberious Thessalonia
True Slave Foundations Shaktipat Revelators
147
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Posted - 2012.01.08 21:13:00 -
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Thanks! |
Ugleb
Sarz'na Khumatari Ushra'Khan
151
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Posted - 2012.01.08 21:15:00 -
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Thgil Goldcore wrote:So a Matari conducts an investigation and resorts to force immediately against concord forces. It attracts no attention from all the people who where so critical of my investigation. Funny isn't it.
The number of Amarrian loyalist pilots rushing to condemn and accuse is amusing, isn't it?
And what did your own investigation turn up? http://uglebsjournal.wordpress.com/ |
Ragnar STS
Sarz'na Khumatari Ushra'Khan
21
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Posted - 2012.01.08 21:24:00 -
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For all the Amarr loyalist capsuleers intent to accuse in this forum rather than give useful information:
We invite you to find superior CONCORD assets and technology under the control of Matari, Caldari, or Gallente personnel.
Find them.
The Sansha threat is a threat to ALL nations, and ALL lowsec factions, and ALL nullsec alliances.
Don't you think it slightly strange that the Amarr are in charge of this ongoing incursion fight, pushing around their CONCORD underlings? They are so secretive that they do not share information with the other governments. Obviously....we don't trust the Amarr and their blind belief systems.
CONCORD is supposed to be acting non-partial, supporting galactic law for all. The impression given here is that one nation is favored over the others, calling into question their charter.
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