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Hazor Dris
Universal Exports Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2007.07.08 16:23:00 -
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Check out our magazine written fully by pilot submissions! Learn all about NMTZ and Molden Heath, there are low-sec guides, there is humor, even word games!
We try to get one of these to the presses bi-monthly...expect to see more, as you get the NMTZ experience!
Visit here to obtain your copy of BURN, and feel free to distribute as necessary.
Hazor Dris Check out our monthly mag! *BURN, Official NMTZ publication* |
Sqalevon
Masuat'aa Matari
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Posted - 2007.07.08 16:57:00 -
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Looks nice :) I'm sure to give it a read over the next two days.
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Wardog 1
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.07.08 21:32:00 -
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Overly vague when referring to INFOD yes.... I'm very sure we sustained equal losses, keep comforting yourselves on that
Aside from that it's a much better mag that first time round. Excluding the childish attempts at smacktalk this time made you look much more professional and adult. Containing somewhat more objective write-ups than its predecesor I suppose you can take pride in this copy.
Though not to my tastes, well done.
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Horza Otho
Minmatar Infortunatus Eventus Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2007.07.08 21:43:00 -
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Originally by: Wardog 1 Overly vague when referring to INFOD yes.... I'm very sure we sustained equal losses, keep comforting yourselves on that
Aside from that it's a much better mag that first time round. Excluding the childish attempts at smacktalk this time made you look much more professional and adult. Containing somewhat more objective write-ups than its predecesor I suppose you can take pride in this copy.
Though not to my tastes, well done.
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Grant Smith
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.07.09 00:11:00 -
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Edited by: Grant Smith on 09/07/2007 00:11:10 It's about time we visited you again NMTZ, it seems your mouths have taken hold over your actions once again. We need to prove that the statement made in number two is equally as incorrect as in issue one. Get your facts straight. Either way, we'll be playing ball on the same pitch once again soon enough!
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Souvera Corvus
Gallente Vaapad Shinobis Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2007.07.09 01:05:00 -
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Nothing more certain than your eventual return Grant, so in that sense you insisting that you'll be back isn't much of a threat now is it? And as for your continual chest-beating, I refer to the honourable gentlemen to the statistics that were posted on his own KB (Before they were pulled before you went to forge/geminate). They didn't suggest a 'Slaughter'.
Thing is though, don't come back just yet because we're all busy hiding in stations until CI and Atlas leave so you'll never see us outside of the station bar and I know how bored you got with that last time .
Could always join us for a beer and a game of darts though??? |
Wardog 1
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.07.09 01:19:00 -
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Edited by: Wardog 1 on 09/07/2007 01:19:08 Before this thread goes the way of all the others, ill save you the grief and ask that if you really want to take this up with us, drop a convo or mail in game. Thing is, we don't see you as equals any more, well, don't know if we did... hence the need for us to put straight any facts we deem incorrect.
Regardless, as I said, the e-mag is good quality, while i don't care for much of the content the designer is quite good.
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Siobhan Ni
Gallente Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.07.09 08:02:00 -
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Looks very professional and well put together, although with a bit too much propaganda.
We paid you station jockeys a visit a couple of weeks ago. Out numbered in local by 2-1 and you all insta docked. If you think you can take us then say the word cos we're at a loose end at the minute and need people to kill.
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U'puauht
Minmatar Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.07.09 08:17:00 -
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Originally by: Souvera Corvus (...)the statistics that were posted on his own KB (Before they were pulled before you went to forge/geminate). They didn't suggest a 'Slaughter'.
If I recall correctly, we had a campaign efficiency of roundabout 80% back then. What do you call that, if not 'slaughter'? I don't mean to flamebait or anything, it's a genuine question as to what you consider 'slaughter' (in regards to efficiency) and what not...
But more on-topic, a nice mag, and with less (detected) propaganda and smack than the first one it was a whole lot more enjoyable. Good job, keep it up! _____
Wood-legged, eye-patched, parrot-on-the-shoulder Priest of The Church |
Dr Kojak
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.07.09 08:49:00 -
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Your lies:text ratio is still high. That being said; the one making the magazine got more talent than the combined talent of all nmtz forces. Kudos to him/her. Who said slaves were lazy workers?
If you guys actually spent some time standing up for yourself by showing up on the battlefield instead of hiding in stations writing long and boring stories about trivial tactics and techniques well known to pod-pilots actually in space, you might improve drasticly.
Till we meet again
Dr Kojak
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Sachin
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Posted - 2007.07.09 09:44:00 -
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NAMTZ will burn for their deceitful words. INFOD will send you to meet your makers!!!
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Faekurias
Federation Fleet Endless Horizon
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Posted - 2007.07.09 10:27:00 -
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Nice design, due to own experiences with Namtz I doubt much of its content and propaganda though, especially about INFOD. Had run-ins with them too and well.
I guess it speaks for itself. Nice Colours though
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Jhonen Senraedi
Minmatar Vaapad Shinobis Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2007.07.09 11:16:00 -
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Originally by: U'puauht
Originally by: Souvera Corvus (...)the statistics that were posted on his own KB (Before they were pulled before you went to forge/geminate). They didn't suggest a 'Slaughter'.
If I recall correctly, we had a campaign efficiency of roundabout 80% back then. What do you call that, if not 'slaughter'? I don't mean to flamebait or anything, it's a genuine question as to what you consider 'slaughter' (in regards to efficiency) and what not...
But more on-topic, a nice mag, and with less (detected) propaganda and smack than the first one it was a whole lot more enjoyable. Good job, keep it up!
Friend..I would check your campaigns carefully....against 5th and NMTZ..your campaigns were at around equal efficiency..for your purge of MH campaign..perhaps that was at 80%..can't recall tbh. Thus..against us or 5th there was no slaughter..against neutrals etc that you no doubt included in MH campaign...perhaps there was..but..
Claiming that you slaughtered us or 5th would be the same as us doing likewise...Honours were pretty even in efficiency...so..to parry your question...pray tell..with efficiency ratings of 50% against 5th and us..what do you consider slaughter?
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Siobhan Ni
Gallente Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.07.09 12:11:00 -
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I would like to quote one of your former leaders who quit your alliance/coalition during your last war with us. The original posts can be found here:
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=508562
INFOD storms over the region daily with fleets ranging from a mere 5 to a well oiled machine of death involving 50 cordinated pilots armed to the gills with state of the art battleships supported by a variety of command ships and capital assets at the ready.
The regional defense force is in critical condition and has only itself to blame.
Though numbering 400+ pilots by my official count -and yes, I am a thurough sob in my record keeping with all pilots documented, the community averages 50 pilots with 10 willing to fight at any given moment. Even during peak times, the community that once proudly drove off pirate by the sheer unknown of 25-50 ships forming up at any given time out of seemingly thin air is now content to sit a wait until the area is clear to run missions and mine.
They have forgotten their origins. Mh-SEC, wake from your slumber or die in your sleep by your own hand. You have left the dagger in it's sheath long enough and it will not be sated until drunk with the blood of the fallen -enemy or your own. A hundred hands once eagerly plunged this dagger into the hearts of their enemies and rejoiced. What remains now? A hundred greedy hands clawing at isk to fill their own coffers... might as well be a hundred aged hands building their own coffins.
How many other members and corps quit NMTZ/5th during our last engagement? Looks like you got your self into another mess with chaos incarnate and friends. How many people will quit your alliance this time? It must be frustrating for ordinary members watching their leaders make the same mistakes over and over again. How long before we see similar posts from other disgruntled members?
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Horsefly
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.07.09 16:06:00 -
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Wow last time I check it was you guys who started the war. We made it mutual to save you some money in the hopes you would keep undocking. You stayed docked perminatly. We left because of lack of targets. You convo'd us about a month later for us to retract war. We refused and you surrendured?
Please correct me if I'm wrong.
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Jhonen Senraedi
Minmatar Vaapad Shinobis Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2007.07.09 18:02:00 -
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Originally by: Horsefly Wow last time I check it was you guys who started the war. We made it mutual to save you some money in the hopes you would keep undocking. You stayed docked perminatly. We left because of lack of targets. You convo'd us about a month later for us to retract war. We refused and you surrendured?
Please correct me if I'm wrong.
Doing as you ask and correcting you....YES..you are wrong!
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Siobhan Ni
Gallente Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.07.09 21:06:00 -
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Same old NMTZ. We pay you a visit tonight out numbered 2-1 and you all dock You know where we live. Come pay us a visit if you have the balls.
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NightmareX
Caldari Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.07.09 21:56:00 -
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Edited by: NightmareX on 09/07/2007 21:55:22
Originally by: Siobhan Ni Same old NMTZ. We pay you a visit tonight out numbered 2-1 and you all dock You know where we live. Come pay us a visit if you have the balls.
They don't have the balls for that.
Trust me on that.
Infinitus Odium - We Are The Bringers Of Hatred |
Grant Smith
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.07.10 00:21:00 -
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Edited by: Grant Smith on 10/07/2007 00:21:27
Originally by: Jhonen Senraedi
Originally by: Horsefly Wow last time I check it was you guys who started the war. We made it mutual to save you some money in the hopes you would keep undocking. You stayed docked perminatly. We left because of lack of targets. You convo'd us about a month later for us to retract war. We refused and you surrendured?
Please correct me if I'm wrong.
Doing as you ask and correcting you....YES..you are wrong!
Joker... I don't know who you are or what position you are within the hierarchy of NMTZ, but, yes, you DID stay docked permanently, YES, NMTZ did contact INFOD to retract the war and YES, NMTZ did surrender.
G.
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ozwald
Minmatar Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.07.10 02:04:00 -
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Just one thing, i think its isk that determines the efficiency on our kb the only reason it was at 70-80% is becasue we like to fit our ships properly and that takes isk if we had fitted them cheap and cheerfull it could have been 90% easily, 1 infod bs value = 2-3 nmtz bs value and most times you would destroy one bs and we would destroy your entire fleet. Why do you need to continue this propaganda even after we left the area ????
Nic mag btw.
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SARPIDON
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.07.10 09:11:00 -
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In relation to the mag: Well put together, nice job.
In relation To NMTZ claims: Time has obviously erroded any sense of reality within the remains of NMTZ. Time for a refresher course. Be seeing you.
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Gaius Kador
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2007.07.10 23:16:00 -
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Burn? ----------------------------------------------
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Je'hira Osiris
Minmatar Knights of Chaos Chaos Incarnate.
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Posted - 2007.07.12 10:30:00 -
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Sooo infod move out and we move in... :-) man thats bad luck.. infod we will keep your seat warm... :-p
Respect can be found for your enemy.... its jus a case of how hard you wanna look...
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Uagen
The Choirboys
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Posted - 2007.07.12 11:28:00 -
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Nice read..... and well put together, its just a pity your sense of reality and lack of respect for those that apose you or offer you any challenge is somewhat... lacking, but hey...this is namtz right that same group all huddled in one system.
Well.. judging by your read you are indeed a super heavy weight in eve, you take no loses, evgeryone runs from you or docks.
Such a pity Namtz if you just gave some kudos sometimes you might find that the world isnt such a paranoid place after all making your propaganda obsolete once and for all.
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Je'hira Osiris
Minmatar Knights of Chaos Chaos Incarnate.
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Posted - 2007.07.12 11:29:00 -
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OMG LMAO!!!!you funny mother (Thinks of words CCP wont ban)
Im loveing your description of us in burn .. Amasing... but the below is closer to the truth.
It is true we are beaten after our loss of our home system in the defeat of the UK Outpost (WHERE we live) forced us to move from the bleaklands beacuse of its easy 0.0 access and amount of targets that were around. We thought we would move to molden heath and lie low hinding behind any rock we can find trying not to **** off the locals and not heading to the front to fight BOB. In our crushed state we would never be caviler with dreads not just even sending matching fleets into a lag fest to walk away with a 40 / 4 win (Even if the lag effected both sides). PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE dont hurt us we are scared and want to be left alone to mine our roids in peace.
WE COME IN PEACE!
Respect can be found for your enemy.... its jus a case of how hard you wanna look...
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Gizzler
Minmatar Red Star Technologies
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Posted - 2007.07.13 12:55:00 -
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My god, you pitiful protectors of Molden Heath. You are any new pod pilots worst nightmare. Stop your fiction writing and twist of reality - don't trick any new pod pilot to Molden Heath giving him the expression this is a safe and well protected area.
You above all, do lack the skill to protect anything besides your own comfortable hangar, stuffed up with shiny ships you have done nothing to earn the rights to and which only enter the scene, when no opposing enemies are in any nearby systems.
Don't think making a great looking magazine will make it up to your complete lack of competence in opposing a force to battle the pirates. So many pilots of the Namtz'aar k'in alliance claim to be the almighty war commander of Molden Heath and keep on telling story of the great battles he fought - just to silence him self whenever a pirate enter the system.
No more! No more I say! No more will I be tricked by the political spin of Namtz'aar k'in. No more! No more will I listen to them, for guidance and advice of how the criminal activities are being dealt with. No more!
Namtz'aar k'in, stand up to your words or be silence for ever. Only the true lord of Matar knows how many pod pilots you have tricked into the true death and destruction, by telling them what a paradise Molden Heath is, heavily guarded and protected by the defending force of Namtz'aar k'in who will and can slaughter all. For the love of Wkumi Pol, please stop!
I advise all pod pilots to avoid Molden Heath - here is nothing to come for - it's only infested with pirates and storytelling pilots who can offer no more than empty words.
I for one are free. Free of all the lies and political nonsense. I have finally left Molden Heath and are free of the endless death to honourless pirates.
But above all... I'm free of Namtz'aar k'in... just free!
/out
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Fluffy Rabbit
Caldari Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.07.14 11:57:00 -
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Good lord.
Well first of all I mag is ace for its production value. But the overriding fact is the content is full of lies and total BS. If you think you drove us out by force you really are insane. Next time you should try to defend that one system you guys hold.
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Cz Ire
Minmatar Gradient Electus Matari
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Posted - 2007.07.17 05:19:00 -
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Suprise suprise - 15/27 posts on this thread are by infod already. What do you guys care anymore, seriously? You left... OK, to calm you guys down ill say it - IMO infod is up there with outbreak for #1 pirate corp in existance atm. now pipe down and let other people comment on the mag (other than your alts)
Still, I congradulate nmtz and their allies in making it so that for pirates to even operate in MH it REQUIRES them to blob up into fleets of 20+. with capital ship support.
If you want to do that kind of gang, fly in fleet ops, go back out to 0.0. Weve learned our lession a few times and had our fingers burned by both you and infod in the past - thats the reason we avoid the blobs and pick you off at our leisure otherwise. We are skirmish fighters. NMTZ and allies are not experianced or skilled in large scale fleets, nor can molden heath handle it. Fleets like that are for territory conquest in 0.0 space - fairly pointless in lowsec where there are multiple unconquerable stations in every system. Lowsec wars are not really about territory (beyond stratigic concerns) its moral, isk, sustainability. Piracy is a buisness - if thats your income, you need to turn a profit vs your combat losses, just as we need to rebuild our sec status's.
The diffrence between infod and ci/atlas? CI/atlas are overkill pirates. Their goal seemed to me to be to pop as many people off the gelf/atlas gate as possible to build a bankroll, with takeing as few risks as possible. conversly, infod towards the end of their existance in MH I would say were a pvp corp rather than pirates. They could and would kill anyone they saw - but really, they were in it for the fights, not the isk.
and infod - its rather funny to hear you guys accusing someone of misrepresentation. Dont get me started.
I will say this - so far, CI/Atlas have been a lot more enjoyable than infod, due to the fact they keep their smack in check - most of the time - *bows appreciativly* many GF's, I hope that it stays this way until you guys decide to pack up and move on.
Everyone else, read up on that molden intel bit. its been in both issues. If your in Molden heath and not on that channel dont whine when CI/Atlas pod you for being stupid.
still, on the whole, a good read.
--- "They saw the long road, the harder road. The road that would ensure what we had gained in the vicious rebellion would not be squandered... our freedom." - Republic Fleet Admiral Kanth Filmir |
Aslann
Gallente Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.07.17 09:45:00 -
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Originally by: Cz Ire
Suprise suprise - 15/27 posts on this thread are by infod already. What do you guys care anymore, seriously? You left... OK, to calm you guys down ill say it - IMO infod is up there with outbreak for #1 pirate corp in existance atm. now pipe down and let other people comment on the mag (other than your alts)
Nobody else comments, cause nobody else cares. We comment, because as usual all you do is trash talk us. ______________________
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GRENADIERSIMPSON
Anti Pirate Inc THE V I G I L
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Posted - 2007.07.17 11:30:00 -
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Back on topic....I loved the mag. I dont care if the truth is bent a little in it, thats journalism.
How INFOD can give it the biggun flaming NMTZ i dont know. There in molden heath....your NOT. Despite your constant promises to rule it.
Accept defeat gracefully or at least try
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