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Shaemell Buttleson
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Posted - 2004.01.28 17:36:00 -
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Is it just me or was there anyone else who was going to refine the tech2 mission rewards for the mega and zyd. Coz if so it is no longer there. Thanks CCP for the change and well done anyone who refined it as they got it
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Ayako
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Posted - 2004.01.28 17:54:00 -
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OMG! Are you serious? I got very lucky then I refined a lot of the stuff I had yesterday after doing agent missions for a few days and the Zyd and Mega were a very very nice reward (about 15M worth of mins in all) for it...so they only recycle to crappy minerals now?? I was hoping that agent missions would enable me to generate a decent amount of money...guess they stealth-nerfed it hard...
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Lokara
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Posted - 2004.01.28 18:10:00 -
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Just checked it, and I'm afraid Shaemell is right :(.
I should have refined my thousands of tech 2 parts yesterday...
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Machiavelli7
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Posted - 2004.01.28 18:32:00 -
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woo-hoo!
I refined all of my tech2 components the other day - needed the mega and zyd _________________________________
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Shevar
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Posted - 2004.01.28 18:34:00 -
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Edited by: Shevar on 28/01/2004 18:36:46
Thats all i gotta say about it.
To elaborate futher, there will _never_ be enough bps and tech2 production around to sell at any price above mineral value. So basicly now they have basicly made tech2 components rewards useless (not that i got any post patch but hej).... -------- -The only real drug problem is scoring real good drugs
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Capt Spock
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Posted - 2004.01.28 18:40:00 -
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Agreed, stealth-patching like this makes me really annoyed, atleast they should have warned us. Absolutely nothing about this in the patch notes or in the dev posts.
Considering half of the playerbase have been doing missions and gotten decen amounts of tech 2 gadgets, CCCP is bound to anger quite abit of their playerbase when performing silent nerfs like this.
Let us hope it's just a bug, but I doubt it.
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Ray McCormack
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Posted - 2004.01.28 18:59:00 -
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I know a corp mate of mine has checked his tech 2 rewards, and still found some mega and zyd in a few of them.
Perhaps CCP are nerfing their mineral requirements so more people will start manufacturing them from bps. Dunno...
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Atinia
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Posted - 2004.01.28 19:53:00 -
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As I said on antoher thread, I know that people recycled them for their Mega and Zyd, and that it was supposed to be used for later production but please don't force us to save them. And also, it was the only way for small people like me to get my hands of some Mega and Zyd and I didn't get rich. I managed to scrape together, after a load of missions, enough to build my own Caracal and I felt like I really earnt it. Now I am forced to buy the Mega for 14K ISK a pop or try to venture out into non-empire 0.0 space where I will be shot on sight. I will got here eventually, but first I gotta learn how to play, fight and the things all others now take for granted. At the very least just reduce the Mega and Zyd from the R.A.M. to one third of what it was or something so us smalltimers can have a chance before grow up in this community. Just my plea and 5 cents.
A, still sad
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Harisdrop
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Posted - 2004.01.28 20:16:00 -
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Yes recycle all your tech 2 items. That would be great. Now that they are WORTHLESS stop doing agent missions. --------------------------
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Beldaws
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Posted - 2004.01.28 20:39:00 -
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If this is true and this patch makes mining in 0.0 harder then expect the mega and zyd prices to start going up again!
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harobed alocin
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Posted - 2004.01.28 21:26:00 -
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i sometimes wonder why i play this game. if i hadn't nievely paid for 6 months up front i'd ditch it. i've spent hours, days, weeks doing boring missions now your telling me not only are they changing the rules again(to suit who? - not the small timer thats for sure)but they apply them retrospectively. if people buying the game knew this happened sales would drop to zero. i assume the developers havent the faintest idea what theyre doing.
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Tangentoar
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Posted - 2004.01.28 21:30:00 -
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Edited by: Tangentoar on 28/01/2004 21:36:57 All hail and bow down to CCP. Everyone who loves them sya aye.
Failing that complain
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Tangentoar
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Posted - 2004.01.28 21:32:00 -
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This is an absolute farse, just as things were getting better and the game started being more enjoyable, due to peoples chance of getting bs, CCP strikes again.
Flipping idiots.
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Lily Savage
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Posted - 2004.01.28 21:42:00 -
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Quote: i assume the developers havent the faintest idea what theyre doing.
The developers want a player driven market in tech2 items, including the tools and componets needed in manufacture. They don't want all of the tools and components recycled for their mineral content. They have just fixed this.
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Harloch
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Posted - 2004.01.28 21:48:00 -
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all I have to say on the matter is at least they could have warned us. I just got screwed out of a bs because I didn't refine pre patch. I undersstand tha tthe mineral content may have needed to change. but would a warning be too much to ask for. I even sent an official protest to [email protected]. Because someone told me that was where to send it. I'm actually feeling pretty bitter about this. And I'm a person who thought the Castor patch kicked ass!
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Everfire
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Posted - 2004.01.28 22:10:00 -
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What the f**k is wrong with CCP? Why do they even bother putting things in a patch only to nerf them the following one?
HOW ABOUT FIXING THE OTHER BUGS BEFORE F**KING AROUND WITH THE STUFF THAT WORKS!!!!!!!!!!
Sorry for the Caps but this has really p'd me off.......
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Brat Logan
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Posted - 2004.01.28 22:25:00 -
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maybe this wouldn't be such a problem if there were any blueprints to produce with...
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Atinia
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Posted - 2004.01.28 22:51:00 -
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How about they reset the R.A.M.s back to Mega and Zyd for 24 hours so people can recycle what they got if they want to, and then turn it back to this? At least tell people in advance :-/
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Tarkin
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Posted - 2004.01.28 22:56:00 -
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WTF is CCP playing at.
Some of my corps longest standing (hardcore members) are contemplating leaving over this.
To qualify my statement of annoyance, and I would guess this applies to more than one corp. We are a, relatively small, production based corp and had just about managed to get back on the mining/production track after a 1month mission holiday to establish projects. Some of our members decided to continue missionÆs specifically to build up a supply of tech2 components for meg and zyd to fuel our production lines. And now they find that not just the effort they have put in but the skills trained and standings established are for nothing.
Pls CCP realize that this is a hugely involving game and takes a long time to adjust to change. Change isnÆt a bad thing, but Castor took enough time to adapt to, and now we are being told those adaptations we made are for nothing.
IÆm guessing that these items were never intended as a source of minerals, but player will always find these loopholes, and in this case its become a living for many many players. Just to add, im not winging from the standpoint of " I like it as it is, so donÆt change it" we can and will adapt, but if your going to make changes that will have drastic effects on the way people play the game - we really need to know!
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Athre
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Posted - 2004.01.28 23:16:00 -
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I think the real issue is that this silver lining that some found in the forced agent missions helped lesson the anger and upset nature some of us felt when it was shown to us that if we chose not to perform the agent missions we would either be ineffectual in our refines or be missing out on the new tech 2 things. Its so hard to keep up with the masses, throwing the "you have to do agent missions to be competent" card into the mix really chaffed me, and now I'm not really sure what CCP is trying to do. On one hand they hail that the largest number of users logged in at one time, and the other hand removes the silver lining.... NO Mega for you, go mine more Veldspar!!! (yeah a bit over dramatic but thats the feeling this stealth nerf inspires )
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Doctor Octagon
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Posted - 2004.01.28 23:46:00 -
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I have a lot of Tech2 material from my agent, and im definetly not a rich man. i could use the Mega and Zyd, but i have not refined yet.
Why ? Mayby because i wanted to wait until i needed it, or maybe i wanted to wait to see if i could sell it to make a profit ?
Does it really matter ?
CCP can not warn about everything in the game, it would be like telling the playerbase that in 2 weeks Implants will be given by every level 1 agent. The price would then drop bigtime on implants. Should everyone that had an implant or two for sale, go barkin about them not being warned ?
CCP probably want the Tech2 items to stay ingame and in the market. Their solution is top notch and definetly work ( i will now not refine my tech2 items )
Talking about giving 24 H rollback refine time, is like all the bull about rollback after castor because somebody lost a ship they would not have lost before castor.
This is a game, and it lives as long as it is balanced and further developed. That is what CCP is doing, somebodys pain / somebodys gain. next time maybe it will go in my favour.
Considering my subscription because R.A.M has no more Mega ? ;)
Nah i dont think so !
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Atinia
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Posted - 2004.01.28 23:47:00 -
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It would be so very nice if some of the CCP, GMs or any other person that know why could answer this post or to give us an explanation why.... *Crosses fingers* I can adapt to change, but I like to know before something happens.
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Wizard
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Posted - 2004.01.29 00:23:00 -
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Great aint it!
Just done 10 missions thought it was a bit strange that i wasnt getting ANY with tech2 as bonus, also my rewards have gone from 70k - 300k total to 80k total max.
Spent the next few minites refusing missions with 4 of my lvl3 agents i use, 20 missions declined and finally got 1 that offered 10 robotics ( ram ) as reward, did mission and recyled to see if mega and zyd had changed, got about 100k worth of minerals
Nice one ccp.
Ohh i forgot, i did get 1 mission right after patch that had 200 sustained sheild as reward, started mission ( 19 jump round trip ) and promptly got a message saying a unscheduled reboot was gonna happen in 20minites. Needless to say i failed mission bonus, i pertioned this and was told that they were sure i would recover......WTF kind of reply is that.
Once again, nice one ccp
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Drutort
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Posted - 2004.01.29 08:26:00 -
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i just cant understand why the hidden nerfs? this is so bad in doing such things in a MMO, this sucks a lot!! we expect to know what is coming, even if we dont like it at least we are warned about it.
And dont give me this BS they cant warn about everything LOL, you are telling me that they can spend the time to code the NERF but they cant spend the time to write few lines in a patch change log thing??? WOW WHAT A JOKE!!! support Idea: QuickInfo an alternative to ShowInfo
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DREAMWORKS
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Posted - 2004.01.29 09:19:00 -
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I don't know about you guys, but tech 2 items will become more rare as soon as production starts of tech2 battleships etc. Or when people start moving again to alliance regions. __________________________
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Judicator
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Posted - 2004.01.29 09:38:00 -
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I refined all my stuff before the patch, well, most of it. I got some spare items left that I know have mega/zyd in them.
It was a nice bonus reward for doing agent missions, but well, it's not rellly important to me anymore, I'm fed up with it all.
CCP = Clueless Crowd Production!
I can imagine the CCP office when they designed tech ii componenats.
"omg omg omg, lets fil lthem with good amounts of mega and zyd!!"
"Yeah, great idea!"
Later on:
"WTF, stoopid players are refing it, wtf, lets nerf them!"
As if nobody could forsee that players would refine the stuff due to the mega and zyd shortage. Why pay top ISK fro stuff you can get from refining stuff you'll never use anyways.
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Falbala
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Posted - 2004.01.29 10:04:00 -
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Even if it still contained mega and zydrine you should not refine T2 stuff now. These drop a lot less often.
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Heritor
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Posted - 2004.01.29 10:16:00 -
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well i still got all my 1000's of tech II components and data bases hope somebody will need them soon
ps
yes i mean 1000's
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Galea Wildfang
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Posted - 2004.01.29 10:37:00 -
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Seems again like there's no persistance in a so called 'persistant world'. I'm really getting tired to pay for a game that's not even in a state to be called beta, as I expect most of the content of a game being there and ready for testing.
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s4mp3r0r
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Posted - 2004.01.29 11:08:00 -
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guys,
CCP shouldn't have stealth nerfed this, I agree.
But think of it this way : as long as all the carebears could get Zyd and mega from the agent missions, the prices of mega and zyd would drop even more.
Hidden belts are no longer hidden making the mining of mega and zyd more difficult.
THEY SAVED THE GAME BY DOING THIS !
If all the carebearing mission peeps would be able to get zyd & mega, the prices would drop even more (below 13k for mega and below 3k for zyd or even worse) and even the noobiest of nublets would be able to get a BS in about 2 weeks.
That would ruin the game even more than redoing the mission rewards (and the tech2 refining). As it seems the mission do'ers will be rewarded with even better implants (+4's), selling for I think 30 mill after they get available some more. I don't see the problem with this.
I actually prayed for this.
I am a 0.0 deepspace miner (did this afk before !!!!) for bis and merco, I can still mine it, but with way more difficulty.
The price of mega should reflect it. I also do missions for my corp to insure we get some more tech2 BP's. I don't mind not being able to refine the tech2 crap for zyd and mega. Bjorn Borg : Underwear is futile ! |
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