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Nostrop
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Posted - 2007.07.24 18:44:00 -
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Hey guys,
Currently i`m sitting up in high secspace, training my skills to get myself in a barge. I have set up my plans, what i need to atchive in empire, before i move out to the 0.0 wilderness: - train myself for a hulk or convetor at least (and yes, i know that it takes loads of time); - get my refinning skill up so i cen refine my own ore
Atm i have already managed to get myslef a Mammoth (with 17,8 k of cargo capacity), so i kinda consider, that i can haul nicely.
So after i can use my mining barge / refine my own ore and be able to haul things arround, i`m thinking of moving down to 0.0 and dig for better ores. To do that i`ll need a corp with 0.0 access, and hopefully as many ppl that have the same interests as me (mine :) ) So what i`m wondering about is: - how is the mining ops handled there in 0.0; (rats tanked, security questions from hostiles) - What is done to the mined ore? where to is it hauled usually? OPS`s ? stations ? - Where are the refinned materials hauled to futher? are they sold in 0.0 space or are they hauled to empire for sale ?
So any info about the life of a minere in 0.0 would be really appretiated. TY.
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Doctor Fruitloop
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Posted - 2007.07.24 19:15:00 -
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Originally by: Nostrop - how is the mining ops handled there in 0.0; (rats tanked, security questions from hostiles) - What is done to the mined ore? where to is it hauled usually? OPS`s ? stations ?
Mined Ore is taken to local station then freightered to a refinery, mined directly to refinery or else stored in a POS with periodic freightering of ore to refinery through the jump purtals.
Originally by: Nostrop - Where are the refinned materials hauled to futher? are they sold in 0.0 space or are they hauled to empire for sale ?
Around 20% goes to corp and alliance through tax for keeping the operaions in 0.0 going. Rest is either bought on general market in station by someone with a carrier or else corp moves it to empire for a fee or buys it off you and jumps it to empire in a carrier.
Originally by: Nostrop So any info about the life of a minere in 0.0 would be really appretiated. TY.
Well where do I begin. I use a Hulk (best ship for 0.0 mining - scratch that best ingame. This si because it can tank and mine at the same time. I have my main start a gang with my alt. Main has foreman 5 giving an aditional 10% yield, alt mines in covetor and hauls in iteron M5. Since I cant afford a freighter - i dedicate one day a week of eve time to hauling ore to refinery in the iteron... [ 25km3]. I smuggle the minerals down to empire in the Buzzard cov ops. It has 2 T2 expanders and 3 small cans - giving it just over 360m3 room I would suggest skilling up for either a Hulk if you plan on soloing and a Covetor in the meantime. If you cannot afford a Hulk at the moment dont worry - you can make lots of isk mining in hihsec aswell. Start small and build up, dont fly what you cant lose. Keep those in mind and you cant go wrong in 0.0
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Jameroz
Cosmic Odyssey YouWhat
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Posted - 2007.07.24 20:54:00 -
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Originally by: Doctor Fruitloop Around 20% goes to corp and alliance through tax for keeping the operaions in 0.0 going. Rest is either bought on general market in station by someone with a carrier or else corp moves it to empire for a fee or buys it off you and jumps it to empire in a carrier.
20% !! We get to keep it all to ourselves. Anyway depends on the station owners, your corporation and your alliance how much tax you pay... can be anything from 0% to 100%.
Originally by: Nostrop - how is the mining ops handled there in 0.0; (rats tanked, security questions from hostiles) - What is done to the mined ore? where to is it hauled usually? OPS`s ? stations ? - Where are the refinned materials hauled to futher? are they sold in 0.0 space or are they hauled to empire for sale ?
All this really depends on the corporation and alliance. You can usually sell all your ore/minerals in 0.0, but the prices might be better in empire. Lot of high-end minerals for sale in 0.0 but little of low-end minerals available. Personally I have 2 accounts so I can tank, mine and haul myself if needed to. Corporations usually arrange mining ops and you can always go mining with your friends. You can probably even hire someone to tank for you.
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Doctor Fruitloop
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Posted - 2007.07.24 23:41:00 -
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Tbh i am not happy with the quantaties either. Its 15% Alliance tax to get the outposts debt paid off (they are new) and 10% to corp to build up a base. It should stop in the near furute I hope however.
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Sovereign533
Caldari The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.07.24 23:54:00 -
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=) i've ppl mining for me =D
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Psinakis
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Posted - 2007.07.25 06:12:00 -
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Originally by: Doctor Fruitloop Tbh i am not happy with the quantaties either. Its 15% Alliance tax to get the outposts debt paid off (they are new) and 10% to corp to build up a base. It should stop in the near furute I hope however.
You can suggest Specific corporation mining days where the ore goes solely to corp. By that way can be avoided slave mining.
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Doctor Fruitloop
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Posted - 2007.07.25 11:25:00 -
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Originally by: Psinakis
Originally by: Doctor Fruitloop Tbh i am not happy with the quantaties either. Its 15% Alliance tax to get the outposts debt paid off (they are new) and 10% to corp to build up a base. It should stop in the near furute I hope however.
You can suggest Specific corporation mining days where the ore goes solely to corp. By that way can be avoided slave mining.
It gets better - we have to do that twice a week (one of them in empire).
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Princess Jodi
Vendetta Underground Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.07.25 16:52:00 -
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In the Drone Regions, the Gods of CCP finally smiled on us and fixed our asteroids. The net effect was that since it had been broken for so long, everyone who planned on mining had given up long ago. Therefore, those who mine now can easily find entire systems with Ark-Bist-Crok that has NEVER been touched. I personally mined a single Crok rock yesterday and filled 2 full jet cans from it without it popping.
Its a good idea to have a tank and buddies. Solo stuff is a bit difficult, but not impossible.
You can sell mins in 0.0, particulary the low-ends. Expect the high ends to be lower in price than anwhere else in Eve. Otherwise, carrier-jumping is possible. Our normal procedure is to have members put a can in an Admin hangar, named and with a destination, then donate 4 mill or so per can for Jump Fuel. Then you wait alot, and it appears in your hangar in empire/0.0 respectively.
I personally don't recommend training refining skills. I never have. You are a member of a Corp, and there will alwasy be someone who is 'perfect'. Just accept the fact that everything takes time instead of looking for instant gratification, and you'll be fine. Our refining tax is 10%. Don't even think about trying to get around that - no POS refining or hauling ores to empire - because it is the money that fuels the towers and pays for the stations. You get caught..well..expect BAD things to happen to you.
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Hohne
Antares Fleet Yards SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.26 02:21:00 -
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POS refining you lose 25% anyway even with the best skills, so there's no real point in avoiding the station tax with them unless your station tax is really high. :o
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Petter Sandstad
Taggart Transdimensional Kinetic Maelstrom Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.29 11:04:00 -
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Originally by: Nostrop - how is the mining ops handled there in 0.0; (rats tanked, security questions from hostiles)
If you need someone to tank the rats for you, hire one. When hostiles show up, get safe.
Originally by: Nostrop - What is done to the mined ore? where to is it hauled usually? OPS`s ? stations ?
It is refined at an outpost, if the outpost has a refinery. Minmatar-outposts has a 35% refinery as standard. Regular stations in 0.0 can have 50% refineries. If you don't have access to an outpost or station with a refinery, you will have to refine it at a POS -- where you will loose 25% of the minerals.
Originally by: Nostrop - Where are the refinned materials hauled to futher? are they sold in 0.0 space or are they hauled to empire for sale ?
Sometimes it is profitable to move the high-ends to empire, especially megacyte and morphite. All else you sell in 0.0
Also, if you are looking for a corporation, do take contact with TTI
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