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Ignition SemperFi
The Arrow Project Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.07.29 02:51:00 -
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Originally by: M00dy
Originally by: Selene Le'Cotiere
Originally by: Dark Shikari
Originally by: Lifewire
Originally by: Noluck Ned
Yay, I soloed a templar, woop-de-doo.
aha!!! you killed my Templar ????
Yeah, its an Amarr fighter drone used by carriers.
Which fighter is that?
Can Templars use Jump Gates?
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Aramendel
Amarr Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.07.29 02:55:00 -
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Edited by: Aramendel on 29/07/2007 02:55:55
Originally by: Stamm Heh, I dunno who told me. Can't remember. Took it for granted it was true, since it made sense that MC wouldn't have any long term interests in the north.
I doubt they bought it.
Historywise V7 was "promised" to RIOT for helping in the original clearing of tenal, MC was just planning to use it for a month as ratting/mining base for one of their corps. After RIOT selfdestructed COW moved up north to V7. Considering they were long time allies of RIOT my best guess would be that they essentially inherited their claim on the station.
Nevermind that by the time RIOT disbanded it was rather obvious that anyone who took that station would have to fight for it very soon vs a considerable enemy force, so I doubt anyone would buy it in either case. The whole point of buying a station is that you do not have to fight for it, otherwise you could "simply" go conquering one.
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Talidorn
Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.29 02:58:00 -
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Hey, today was even WORSE than JITA on it's worst day! Not just worse... but desync*lag*JITA worse!
I logged and had to face RL! This was the first time in ages that I actually WANTED to not play when my alliance needed/asked for me to be there.
To the current tennants of V7 known as COW - The Desync & lag issues sucked for all involved parties.
Hopefully the rest of the week will be MUCH less laggy after Tuesday... ROFLMAO!!! like the changes on Tuesday will make it any better! Throwing more hardware at a software problem makes the problem more visible. /me starts singing "Here comes the lag... do dah do dah do... Here comes the lag..."
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Sebo Darrens
FATAL REVELATIONS FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.29 03:44:00 -
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hi
v7- shaped up to be an epic battle today, and wow it should have been.. but we got too many on both sides, and EVE can't handle those size blobs so we all lost.
not sure why there's smacktalk in this thread, CCP owned all of you today.
glad to see you all on the battlefield, hope to do it again a little bit cleaner someday soon
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Centauris
Gallente Thundercats RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.29 04:29:00 -
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Originally by: fire 59 You know what, it may not be too far fetched that in the near future, we won't be able to fight as we do atm. We may have to let the enemy fleet, jump in and load and then meet at a planet or something. Then warp closer to each other so we can actually fight with big numbers.
This doesnt seem to much far fetched lol I can actually picture this lol
and BTW whats happening in V7 ___________________________________________________ MY SIG WAS TO BIG APPARENTLY, TOOK YOU LONG ENOUGH FFS Bring on the shooty shooty...Im Uberl33t with MS Paint!
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Minigin
Ganja Labs
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Posted - 2007.07.29 05:23:00 -
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Originally by: Pepperami
Originally by: Aya Im sorry but you cant complain about getting blobbed in 0.0. If you have a problem with it go to empire
Suits us. Will keep our poses alive if you guys wanna play it like this. :)
so wait... if we all pack up and go home... and just send like 5 people... you will rip down your pos's and hand over the system?
nice... i had no idea...
MINIGIN! now posting in "limegreen"
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tartrus
Templars of Space Sparta Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.29 05:45:00 -
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last night was just another load of bull crap.... MM RZR dont sit there and pretend use had lag thats just bs guys u might of had a little. but when everyone our side is like i only see 402 in local and 3 other guys r like im getting shot... then one guys like umm there 500 and something in local it there gang and its sitting next to us. so frac use trying to make it look like use lagged as well and broke through our huge fraccin gate camp.
its almost like ccp want the defenders to loose and the attackers get all the benefits from the lag. CCP make the guys alrdy in system hav first prefs to server load this is bs im sick of these guys "winning" cus we desync and they dont. yes this is a whine but i got 0 repsect for MM rzr now so i dont want em letting peeps think there winning or there better. right now we hav not had a fair fight with MM rzr so both side hav no idea who accully win cus CCP chooses who win and its usally them jumping in. i would say they hav balls for jumping in but they know there gonna lag us out even more so im not gonna say it.
oh well guess im gonna get hammerd now. bring it on
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Cpt Pugwash
Rubra Libertas Militia Insurgency
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Posted - 2007.07.29 06:35:00 -
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Originally by: tartrus last night was just another load of bull crap.... MM RZR dont sit there and pretend use had lag thats just bs guys u might of had a little. but when everyone our side is like i only see 402 in local and 3 other guys r like im getting shot... then one guys like umm there 500 and something in local it there gang and its sitting next to us. so frac use trying to make it look like use lagged as well and broke through our huge fraccin gate camp.
its almost like ccp want the defenders to loose and the attackers get all the benefits from the lag. CCP make the guys alrdy in system hav first prefs to server load this is bs im sick of these guys "winning" cus we desync and they dont. yes this is a whine but i got 0 repsect for MM rzr now so i dont want em letting peeps think there winning or there better. right now we hav not had a fair fight with MM rzr so both side hav no idea who accully win cus CCP chooses who win and its usally them jumping in. i would say they hav balls for jumping in but they know there gonna lag us out even more so im not gonna say it.
oh well guess im gonna get hammerd now. bring it on
If what you say is true why not wait until the are on the gate then jump into them?
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Reverend William
Black Sea Industries Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.07.29 06:38:00 -
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Not that I'm happy about the situation (I logged out after desyncing a couple of times and getting frustrated that I couldn't even load anything on grids), but what do you all expect? We called in hundreds of allies, RZR/MM/etc bring hundreds of people. Did anyone seriously think it would be lag free?
The problem is us, blobbing one another with every single pilot we have online. Is there an easy solution? Not really, but that's the plain and simple truth. No other game on the market even comes close to these size battles, why should eve be any different? Because people are stupid enough to sit around and amass thousands of players in alliances and then use them all at once?
*shrug* just sayin'
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FubarSF
Caldari Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.07.29 07:17:00 -
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To bad there is no solution to this problem. I doubt either side will bring less numbers. If only the "Age of PoS's" never came.
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HeadHunta II
Gallente Art of War Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.07.29 07:36:00 -
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Lol, funny...
I was just trying to find out on another PC whats going on after i lost internet connection, to bad this one also lost internet connection while i was posting/editing this thread. To bad it was a lag hell again.
But funny to see that even if you write nothing (see my post) you can create a thread where ppl start *****ing arround again.
My opinion is not your opinion. Live with it.
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Yuto Kang
Gallente Oberon Incorporated
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Posted - 2007.07.29 08:20:00 -
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I have no idea where the smacktalk is coming from. Both sides brought the numbers, much strategic movements around gates and intel game and in the end CCP's inability to provide a stable game experience ruined it for everyone.
It was meant to be an epic battle and people should stop blaming each other for bringing the numbers, because POS gameplay as designed and setup by CCP is really laid out for such large-scale fights.
So: blame to CCP, respect to all involved
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KOTH Fluf
Caldari Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.07.29 08:40:00 -
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Originally by: tartrus last night was just another load of bull crap.... MM RZR dont sit there and pretend use had lag thats just bs guys u might of had a little. but when everyone our side is like i only see 402 in local and 3 other guys r like im getting shot... then one guys like umm there 500 and something in local it there gang and its sitting next to us. so frac use trying to make it look like use lagged as well and broke through our huge fraccin gate camp.
its almost like ccp want the defenders to loose and the attackers get all the benefits from the lag. CCP make the guys alrdy in system hav first prefs to server load this is bs im sick of these guys "winning" cus we desync and they dont. yes this is a whine but i got 0 repsect for MM rzr now so i dont want em letting peeps think there winning or there better. right now we hav not had a fair fight with MM rzr so both side hav no idea who accully win cus CCP chooses who win and its usally them jumping in. i would say they hav balls for jumping in but they know there gonna lag us out even more so im not gonna say it.
oh well guess im gonna get hammerd now. bring it on
I guess there are a couple of things you didnt learn from UEJ. First dont sit on a gate waiting for the attackers to come in as Cpt Pugwash said. Warp to the gate after or as they are jumping. Everyone in the system suffered from massive lag as multiple fleets jumped in from both the MU gate and the 2-3 gate. Your own forces (Fallen Souls) jumped in from the MU gate and according to your hypothisis should have had the advantage. We warped only our carriers to that gate to defend and RK jumped in behind the Fallen Souls gang. It appears that everyone at that gate was lagged massively as the 60 man gang from 2-3 jumped into you. The MM/Rzr support fleet warped to the 2-3 gate to a cov ops at range from your fleet. I was one of the first on grid and managed to load overview almost 3 to 5 mins later and started calling primaries. More then half the fleet that jumped into the large bubble on the 2-3 gate never loaded for almost 15 mins or more and some logged. Apparently some of you loaded, because you managed to kill me and a few others.
Bottom line is this is going to be a mess for awhile. You learn to deal with the various situations as they happen and try to learn how to play around the lag and plan on it. We all wish the game would play better, and I havent seen this much lag in along time, and I have been in alot of big fleet fights. We just have to adapt while CCP tries to fix this mess. Fluf CEO Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Nikerym Lestroy
GALAXIAN RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.29 09:23:00 -
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Originally by: Cpt Pugwash
Originally by: tartrus last night was just another load of bull crap.... MM RZR dont sit there and pretend use had lag thats just bs guys u might of had a little. but when everyone our side is like i only see 402 in local and 3 other guys r like im getting shot... then one guys like umm there 500 and something in local it there gang and its sitting next to us. so frac use trying to make it look like use lagged as well and broke through our huge fraccin gate camp.
its almost like ccp want the defenders to loose and the attackers get all the benefits from the lag. CCP make the guys alrdy in system hav first prefs to server load this is bs im sick of these guys "winning" cus we desync and they dont. yes this is a whine but i got 0 repsect for MM rzr now so i dont want em letting peeps think there winning or there better. right now we hav not had a fair fight with MM rzr so both side hav no idea who accully win cus CCP chooses who win and its usally them jumping in. i would say they hav balls for jumping in but they know there gonna lag us out even more so im not gonna say it.
oh well guess im gonna get hammerd now. bring it on
If what you say is true why not wait until the are on the gate then jump into them?
Just ignore him..... he's just jealous that we thought of it first!
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Telis Guevera
Minmatar 7th Regimental Combat Team Fallen Souls
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Posted - 2007.07.29 09:28:00 -
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Edited by: Telis Guevera on 29/07/2007 09:31:44
Originally by: Tasuric Orka Edited by: Tasuric Orka on 28/07/2007 21:03:54 We all blob, we all lag, shame on us for bringing what we can. No really, the only "blame" can be assigned to the engine and supporting hardware.
I should have stayed home, its all a joke really.
No but really, we do need new graphics and ingame voicecom.
For what it's worth, I decided to quote a guy from the other side of the guns. We came for glory, they came for glory, and all we got was a lousy lagfeast (and not even a lousy t-shirt).
Next time every alliance send in 1 representative, and when that one gets killed all the belonging alliance members self-destruct. Pointless, but server-savvy.
NO - to in station walking NO - to new ship graphics NO - to the typos in my post YES - to fleet experience (isn't that what they claim makes EVE such a rich experience?)
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EvilPhog
Amarr Art of War Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.07.29 09:40:00 -
[106]
Don't worry guys! Hardware upgrades on Thursday!!
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Ashigara
Shocky Industries Ltd. Fallen Souls
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Posted - 2007.07.29 10:14:00 -
[107]
Originally by: EvilPhog Don't worry guys! Hardware upgrades on Thursday!!
Will we test it on Thrusday evening?
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Fabienne Sovicou
Gallente M. Corp M. PIRE
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Posted - 2007.07.29 10:47:00 -
[108]
Why aren't Razor posting their losses?
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Stamm
Amarr Three Holdings Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.07.29 10:50:00 -
[109]
Originally by: Fabienne Sovicou Why aren't Razor posting their losses?
With killboard syndication it isn't an issue any more. They'll get picked up on the updates.
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spotnik
Caldari Vendetta Underground Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.07.29 10:57:00 -
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I am suprised that nobody has considered that this game might be ahead of its time and the evolution of technology has not been able to keep up. The amount of computing power it must take to load up 500 ppl and still keep the game going should take no less than a super computer that the New York Stock Exchange must use.
If ccp wants to stop lag they would have to spend millions on hardware and in turn raise prices on subscriptions. I for one feel lucky to play a game of this high calibre.
If lag is to be reduced we have to change our tactics in how we fight battles. 500 ppl in one system is an enefficent use of resources and man power. There must be another way to seige a system but get the same result
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sariss
Art of War Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.07.29 10:59:00 -
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CCP designed this game the way that you need numbers to achieve something. And POS warfare needs huge numbers.
Razor/MM/etc. came in numbers because they need them for their goals. And since CoW is a small alliance we called for friends. That is not the problem, that¦s the way it is, that¦s the way EVE is designed.
But obviously the server can¦t handle it. So either the game design or the server is flawed.
CCP - are you reading this?
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Tearavygh Quillam
Caldari Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.29 10:59:00 -
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Originally by: Tearavygh Quillam
Originally by: Pepperami
Originally by: Tearavygh Quillam Being proud of your achievements is nice and shiny... but I don't think you realy want to do this. You're very good guerilla warriors, highly efficient in small fast gangs, but POS warfare is a new thing for you.
You don't have a clue who we are, do you?
No comment.
Actually, where are the stats vs RZR alliance. It doesn't look good when it drops under 40%, does it? You're disgraceful!
Who you are again? You're good players with unbounded egos, confirmaed at least twice!
Not that it matters and you can say what you will, but my opinion on this matter is settled...
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Hyllekjeks
hirr Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.07.29 11:05:00 -
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Originally by: tartrus last night was just another load of bull crap.... MM RZR dont sit there and pretend use had lag thats just bs guys u might of had a little. but when everyone our side is like i only see 402 in local and 3 other guys r like im getting shot... then one guys like umm there 500 and something in local it there gang and its sitting next to us. so frac use trying to make it look like use lagged as well and broke through our huge fraccin gate camp.
its almost like ccp want the defenders to loose and the attackers get all the benefits from the lag. CCP make the guys alrdy in system hav first prefs to server load this is bs im sick of these guys "winning" cus we desync and they dont. yes this is a whine but i got 0 repsect for MM rzr now so i dont want em letting peeps think there winning or there better. right now we hav not had a fair fight with MM rzr so both side hav no idea who accully win cus CCP chooses who win and its usally them jumping in. i would say they hav balls for jumping in but they know there gonna lag us out even more so im not gonna say it.
oh well guess im gonna get hammerd now. bring it on
from what I saw in my covert, cow and friends sat with almost 150 ppl on the gate at some point with drones out. I wonder how the lag was created. When we jump in and you guys drop drones in order to create lag, you get it.
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borup
New Balkan Mafia Circle 0f Two
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Posted - 2007.07.29 11:08:00 -
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you all had lag?? lmao
serbia's dial up ftw!
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Groox
Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.07.29 11:32:00 -
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My first 450+ battle. Never saw more than one hostile on my overview. Never managed to shoot at them. However! I was there in order to protect our home. I took fire more than 3 min I think in my T2 tanked domi. Started to warp when first missiles hit me. Left battlefield with 10% armour (no repping was involved). But I took battleheat away from those of us who where able to fire. So I would like to think that I contributed something after all.
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Destruct
Octavian Vanguard RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.29 11:39:00 -
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Originally by: Hyllekjeks from what I saw in my covert, cow and friends sat with almost 150 ppl on the gate at some point with drones out. I wonder how the lag was created. When we jump in and you guys drop drones in order to create lag, you get it.
If that's true, if you sat with drones out you're either immensly stupid, out to ruin others gaming experience or you just believe it's a viable defence to make the game unplayable to save your pos's. which one is it?
You can get more of what you want with a kind word and a gun than you can with just a kind word. - Al Capone
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Kaar
Art of War Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.07.29 13:00:00 -
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Originally by: Destruct
Originally by: Hyllekjeks from what I saw in my covert, cow and friends sat with almost 150 ppl on the gate at some point with drones out. I wonder how the lag was created. When we jump in and you guys drop drones in order to create lag, you get it.
If that's true, if you sat with drones out you're either immensly stupid, out to ruin others gaming experience or you just believe it's a viable defence to make the game unplayable to save your pos's. which one is it?
high! repz drones and fyterz!
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Foxy CEO
Altcenaries
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Posted - 2007.07.29 13:10:00 -
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Originally by: Kaar
high! repz drones and fyterz!
If you're in a fleet battle, wouldn't the primary targets be vaporized before the rep drones can get to them?
And why not wait to assign fighters until your carrier pilots know which combat pilots have actually loaded the grid?
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Aramendel
Amarr Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.07.29 13:23:00 -
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If they camp a gate they already all have loaded the grid.
Or are you seriously asking them to be nice and make the grid loading for the (bigger) enemy fleet as easy as possible and only then launch fighters/drones so they and their enemy has equal lag issues from them?
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Jasmina Melt
Art of War Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.07.29 13:58:00 -
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Edited by: Jasmina Melt on 29/07/2007 13:59:36
Originally by: Tearavygh Quillam
Actually, where are the stats vs RZR alliance. It doesn't look good when it drops under 40%, does it? You're disgraceful!
The KB-Admin just put together all attacking alliances into one campaign, you can still see the stats against single alliances (including razor) when clicking on the campaign and scroll down a bit.
However, what's with all the hate? I enjoy the fighting except for the lagwars that they were in the beginning since I play this game for fun, not to smack all my enemies to death, but maybe that's just me.
Ç: And oh hi Ara
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