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Perry
Amarr The X-Trading Company Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2007.08.03 11:53:00 -
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- Zealot has now enough Powergrid to fit a Heavy Beam setup without rigs. - Armageddon has now enough CPU to fit more then a Nanofiber.
... deserves an own topic i think.
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Parallax Error
Amarr Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.03 12:03:00 -
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Do you have any specific details?
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Keitaro Baka
Babylon Scientific and Industrial Enterprises Babylon Project
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Posted - 2007.08.03 12:04:00 -
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i assume you're talking about stuff on sisi?
still I'd say proof or stfu, it's not hard to make a screenie and put it on eve-files?
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Cudeiro
Amarr Princeps Corp YouWhat
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Posted - 2007.08.03 12:05:00 -
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Any change to the Crapocalypse?
BTW nice oohhmmff!! but we need more buffs more more MORE BUFFS!!!
It's great being Amarr, aint it?
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Chronus26
Gallente Team Laser Explosion Molotov Coalition
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Posted - 2007.08.03 12:06:00 -
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Originally by: Perry - Zealot has now enough Powergrid to fit a Heavy Beam setup without rigs. - Armageddon has now enough CPU to fit more then a Nanofiber.
... deserves an own topic i think.
GOOD GOD!
Hooray for balancing changes! -----
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Shevar
Minmatar A.W.M Ka-Tet
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Posted - 2007.08.03 12:09:00 -
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It would be worth a topic if you could post screenshots. But without em this topic is kinda useless.
--- -The only real drug problem is scoring real good drugs
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Perry
Amarr The X-Trading Company Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2007.08.03 12:17:00 -
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Pics:
Armageddon cpu boost Zealot powergrid boost
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Altamekz
Clan Shadow Wolf Sylph Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.03 12:49:00 -
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More grid on zealot no ty
More cpu on geddon oh nice!!!
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Kagura Nikon
Minmatar Guardians of the Dawn Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.08.03 12:49:00 -
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Man when they will solve the Apoc? Please CCp.. please.. that hull is so beutifull, you must give it a role. Give it PG to fit 8 tachyons with only 1 RCU please.
If brute force doesn't solve your problem... you are not using enough |
Kunming
The Coalition Of Buccaneers Mercenary Services
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Posted - 2007.08.03 12:52:00 -
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Originally by: Kagura Nikon Man when they will solve the Apoc? Please CCp.. please.. that hull is so beutifull, you must give it a role. Give it PG to fit 8 tachyons with only 1 RCU please.
That would rock!
With abaddon around apoc has absoluteley no role, not even in the mining division
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Perry
Amarr The X-Trading Company Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2007.08.03 13:01:00 -
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I am pretty sure the Apocalypse will not get more powergrid. It will probably loose powergrid, and gain cpu. Then it will loose some low and high slots, and gain med slots. And of course the turrets will be reduced, and the launchers upped a bit. And then there will be more dronebay. And the tracking disruptor bonus will come quite handy.
Crucifier -> Arbitrator -> Apocalypse
Just like Caldari, only with power. ________________ Kali 3.0 Patchnotes: Amarr Oompf!
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Forsch
Auctoritan Syndicate Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.03 13:01:00 -
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Originally by: Perry I am pretty sure the Apocalypse will not get more powergrid. It will probably loose powergrid, and gain cpu. Then it will loose some low and high slots, and gain med slots. And of course the turrets will be reduced, and the launchers upped a bit. And then there will be more dronebay. And the tracking disruptor bonus will come quite handy.
Crucifier -> Arbitrator -> Apocalypse
Just like Caldari, only with power.
I wish..
Forsch Defender of the empire
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Kagura Nikon
Minmatar Guardians of the Dawn Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.08.03 13:03:00 -
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Originally by: Kunming
Originally by: Kagura Nikon Man when they will solve the Apoc? Please CCp.. please.. that hull is so beutifull, you must give it a role. Give it PG to fit 8 tachyons with only 1 RCU please.
That would rock!
With abaddon around apoc has absoluteley no role, not even in the mining division
I figured that as the easiest way to give it a role. It would be the fleet tachyon ship, since its able to fire way longer than an Abaddon. But currently you need 2 RCU II to fit 8 guns. An if you decide to fit only 7, then the Armageddon is better.
Pretty please CCP.. The dev that is making all these boost deserve a raise!!!! Let him do the same to the APOC.
If brute force doesn't solve your problem... you are not using enough |
Grimpak
Gallente Trinity Nova KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.03 13:10:00 -
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sweet. ---
truth about EVE: Quote: "Guns are fine, boost players"
Quote: "Players are fine, boost guns"
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Goumindong
Amarr Merch Industrial We Are Nice Guys
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Posted - 2007.08.03 13:13:00 -
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Zealot still sucks tbfh.
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kessah
Blood Corsair's
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Posted - 2007.08.03 13:21:00 -
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someone in iceland please beg ccp in person to boost the Apoc, im desperate for a boost to this ship, i cry daily because of it
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Deva Blackfire
Citadel of dark arts
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Posted - 2007.08.03 13:27:00 -
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Originally by: Goumindong Edited by: Goumindong on 03/08/2007 13:19:20 Zealot still sucks tbfh.
Its needs another turret and 25 cubes of drone bay, not 90 pg[well, it would once it got the extra gun]. **** the thing already had plenty of PG to start out with.
Oh, and its CPU is unchanged...
It means it can have nice tank + hvy pulses + med nosf too. Atm i couldnt fit med nosf w/o grid problems.
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Kagura Nikon
Minmatar Guardians of the Dawn Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.08.03 13:41:00 -
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Originally by: kessah someone in iceland please beg ccp in person to boost the Apoc, im desperate for a boost to this ship, i cry daily because of it
Will keep randomly bringign this up again. BOOST the APOC!!! (well boost the bellicose too :P )
If brute force doesn't solve your problem... you are not using enough |
Grimpak
Gallente Trinity Nova KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.03 13:49:00 -
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Originally by: Deva Blackfire
Originally by: Goumindong Edited by: Goumindong on 03/08/2007 13:19:20 Zealot still sucks tbfh.
Its needs another turret and 25 cubes of drone bay, not 90 pg[well, it would once it got the extra gun]. **** the thing already had plenty of PG to start out with.
Oh, and its CPU is unchanged...
It means it can have nice tank + hvy pulses + med nosf too. Atm i couldnt fit med nosf w/o grid problems.
OR a nice beam setup, meaning that the zealot can now go long range while the sac is short range. ---
truth about EVE: Quote: "Guns are fine, boost players"
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Goumindong
Amarr Merch Industrial We Are Nice Guys
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Posted - 2007.08.03 14:07:00 -
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Edited by: Goumindong on 03/08/2007 14:08:34
Originally by: Deva Blackfire
Originally by: Goumindong Edited by: Goumindong on 03/08/2007 13:19:20 Zealot still sucks tbfh.
Its needs another turret and 25 cubes of drone bay, not 90 pg[well, it would once it got the extra gun]. **** the thing already had plenty of PG to start out with.
Oh, and its CPU is unchanged...
It means it can have nice tank + hvy pulses + med nosf too. Atm i couldnt fit med nosf w/o grid problems.
Yea, but the nosf is less than usefull, the tank isnt all that nice, and its damage is still pitiful.
Also a muninn outperforms the Zealot in every way at long range. Same dps[without training HAC 5 the Zealot actualy does less], same range, same tracking[without HAC 5 the zealot does track 5% better], 2.5 times the alpha strike, when using faction ammo it has 20% more dps, and 3 times the alpha strike.
Excuse me for being estatic for my anemic pulse zealot[less dps than a Thorax ffs!] or my totaly outpeformed beam zealot
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Rodj Blake
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2007.08.03 14:19:00 -
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Good to see the Zealot and Arma getting some love.
The Apocalypse could do with some CPU as well.
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Kalazar
Amarr Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.08.03 14:19:00 -
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Originally by: Forsch
Originally by: Perry I am pretty sure the Apocalypse will not get more powergrid. It will probably loose powergrid, and gain cpu. Then it will loose some low and high slots, and gain med slots. And of course the turrets will be reduced, and the launchers upped a bit. And then there will be more dronebay. And the tracking disruptor bonus will come quite handy.
Crucifier -> Arbitrator -> Apocalypse
Just like Caldari, only with power.
I wish..
I third this opinion. The Amarrian race at current has three gunboat battleships, all of which are intended for lasers, which only do EM + Thermal damage, giving us a droneboat as a BS would be absolutely amazing. Unlikely to happen though :( ----------------------------------------------
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Borasao
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Posted - 2007.08.03 14:35:00 -
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Originally by: Perry I am pretty sure the Apocalypse will not get more powergrid. It will probably loose powergrid, and gain cpu. Then it will loose some low and high slots, and gain med slots. And of course the turrets will be reduced, and the launchers upped a bit. And then there will be more dronebay. And the tracking disruptor bonus will come quite handy.
Crucifier -> Arbitrator -> Apocalypse
Shut up! You shouldn't taunt people.
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Goumindong
Amarr Merch Industrial We Are Nice Guys
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Posted - 2007.08.03 14:58:00 -
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Originally by: Rodj Blake Good to see the Zealot and Arma getting some love.
The Apocalypse could do with some CPU as well.
Geddon boost helps.
Zealot boost doesnt. It already had plenty of powergrid. Last thing you need in a desert is more sand.
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Atius Tirawa
Minmatar Wreckless Abandon Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.08.03 15:53:00 -
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I don't kow Goumindong, usually I agree with you, but the Zelot is a pretty quick ganker HAC, I have flow and seen them flown into some tight places and come out with kills. . .Perhaps the math is off, but a pulse Zelot is super fun, and a beam zelot ccan play BB support.
A versitile and effective ship in its role I tell ya.
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Setana Manoro
Gallente Firefly Inc.
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Posted - 2007.08.03 17:12:00 -
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Geddon boost is bloody awesome. Finally i can tackle now. :)
Zealot is ... meh; extra PG helps - always does, but i'd really like to see it with a drone bay of 25m3. :(
Caldari are the plague of EVE, little whiners that must be cleansed from TQ. |
Goumindong
Amarr Merch Industrial We Are Nice Guys
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Posted - 2007.08.03 17:18:00 -
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Originally by: Atius Tirawa
I don't kow Goumindong, usually I agree with you, but the Zelot is a pretty quick ganker HAC, I have flow and seen them flown into some tight places and come out with kills. . .Perhaps the math is off, but a pulse Zelot is super fun, and a beam zelot ccan play BB support.
A versitile and effective ship in its role I tell ya.
Pretty much yes. It just gets utterly trounced in all ways by the Muninn and Vagabond when fit for similar charachteristics and doesnt hold another role where it can excell.
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DarkXenon
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Posted - 2007.08.03 17:29:00 -
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Horray for the changes! I think the Devs have finnally go tired of the moaning.
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Kagura Nikon
Minmatar Guardians of the Dawn Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.08.03 17:46:00 -
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Originally by: Goumindong
Originally by: Atius Tirawa
I don't kow Goumindong, usually I agree with you, but the Zelot is a pretty quick ganker HAC, I have flow and seen them flown into some tight places and come out with kills. . .Perhaps the math is off, but a pulse Zelot is super fun, and a beam zelot ccan play BB support.
A versitile and effective ship in its role I tell ya.
Pretty much yes. It just gets utterly trounced in all ways by the Muninn and Vagabond when fit for similar charachteristics and doesnt hold another role where it can excell.
Yo answered yourself... the zealot can try to fit same roles as munin and vagabond. Although not as well, but at least it is flexible enough. Munin makes a pathetic close combat ship and vaga as sniper is something should not even be spoken
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Goumindong
Amarr Merch Industrial We Are Nice Guys
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Posted - 2007.08.03 17:58:00 -
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Edited by: Goumindong on 03/08/2007 17:58:41
Originally by: Kagura Nikon
Originally by: Goumindong
Originally by: Atius Tirawa
I don't kow Goumindong, usually I agree with you, but the Zelot is a pretty quick ganker HAC, I have flow and seen them flown into some tight places and come out with kills. . .Perhaps the math is off, but a pulse Zelot is super fun, and a beam zelot ccan play BB support.
A versitile and effective ship in its role I tell ya.
Pretty much yes. It just gets utterly trounced in all ways by the Muninn and Vagabond when fit for similar charachteristics and doesnt hold another role where it can excell.
Yo answered yourself... the zealot can try to fit same roles as munin and vagabond. Although not as well, but at least it is flexible enough. Munin makes a pathetic close combat ship and vaga as sniper is something should not even be spoken
So the zealot is worse than the muninn at sniping and worse than the vagabond as a speed ship and up close, and worse than the deimos up close, and worse than the sacriledge as a tank/tackle... Its not better any any one thing. Nor is it able to perform multipule roles at the same time better than any of the others.
And how is this supposed to be balanced?
Pro-tip: its not.
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