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Posted - 2007.08.03 14:41:00 -
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Anybody done the homework on this?
Im talking starter char up to being to fly (not just sit in) a thanatos.
what race and bloodline career etc and how fast has anybody done it?
+4 implants max.
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Edania
Caldari
BlackSky inc.
Edge Of Sanity
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Posted - 2007.08.03 15:47:00 -
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for a goal that long range its somewhat irrelevent, you need so many skills to be usefull in a carrier its not even funny that includes charisma for leadership at the very least memory for jump skills and drones intelegence for learning and if you want to tank it and obviously perc will
personally id just say dive in with any race your losing more time umming and ahhring right now than you would from racial selection
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my Clone was excelent, i just had too many skillpoints
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Sprinter Robbins
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Posted - 2007.08.03 15:50:00 -
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Caldari Accura=uber attributes, get +4's straight away then max your learning out and you'll be there in no time
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Edania
Caldari
BlackSky inc.
Edge Of Sanity
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Posted - 2007.08.03 15:53:00 -
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for a goal that long range its somewhat irrelevent, you need so many skills to be usefull in a carrier its not even funny that includes charisma for leadership at the very least memory for jump skills and drones intelegence for learning and if you want to tank it and obviously perc will
personally id just say dive in with any race your losing more time umming and ahhring right now than you would from racial selection
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my Clone was excelent, i just had too many skillpoints
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Max Sabre
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Posted - 2007.08.03 16:02:00 -
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Yes, and what I was saying which you seemed to miss the point of the Achura have very balanced attributes when learning is done. Charisma is not important so much as all you need is leadership 5 which is like 7 days training...
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Khorian
Gallente
Excidium.
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Posted - 2007.08.03 17:05:00 -
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Yeah, it will only be a year and a half till you are effective in your carrier.
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cal nereus
Bounty Hunter - Dark Legion
Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.03 22:19:00 -
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Spaceship Command V
Advanced Spaceship Command V
Capital Ships III (or higher)
Gallente Cruiser IV
Gallente Battleship V
Gallente Carrier I (or higher)
Warp Drive Operation V
Science V
Navigation V
Jump Drive Operation I (or higher)
Leadership V
Drones V
Drone Interfacing V
Fighters I (or higher)
Gunnery V
Medium Hybrid Turret III
Large Hybrid Turret V
Capital Hybrid Turret I (or higher)
Mechanic V
Repair Systems V
Hull Upgrades V
Capital Repair Systems I (or higher)
... and after all of that I think you'll still suck at using a carrier. 
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Zxenis
Caldari
State War Academy
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Posted - 2007.08.03 22:37:00 -
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mine or rat like crazy or sell lots of gtc's then
here
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Jennai
The Silent Rage
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.08.04 01:35:00 -
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Originally by: cal nereus
Capital Ships III (or higher)
the only reason to train capships past 3 is if you want a titan. dreads, carriers, and moms don't get any bonus from that skill.
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Gallente Carrier I (or higher)
Jump Drive Operation I (or higher)
Fighters I (or higher)
carrier 4 and fighters 4 is advised, and my corpmate says you need Jump Drive Calibration (prereq JD Operation 5) if you want to be able to move the thing without having to make a ton of jumps.
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Gunnery V
Medium Hybrid Turret III
Large Hybrid Turret V
Capital Hybrid Turret I (or higher)
don't need any of that, carrier has no turrets.
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Carniflex
Caldari
Fallout Research
Fallout Project
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Posted - 2007.08.04 13:28:00 -
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Maxed out Mothership (for carrier just drop clone vat bay) (and 'maxsed' is relative, not all skills at lev 5, just reasonable skills pushed to max)
1. Spaceship Command V
6. Advanced Spaceship Command V
7. Capital Ships V
13. Caldari Frigate IV
17. Caldari Cruiser IV
22. Caldari Battleship V
27. Drones V
32. Drone Interfacing V
35. Caldari Carrier V
36. Navigation V
41. Warp Drive Operation V
46. Science V
47. Jump Drive Operation V
48. Cloning Facility Operation V
49. Electronics V
54. Signature Analysis V
60. Long Range Targeting V
65. Logistics V
66. Tactical Logistics Reconfiguration V
67. Repair Systems V
72. Remote Armor Repair Systems V
73. Capital Remote Armor Repair Systems V
78. Remote Hull Repair Systems V
79. Capital Remote Hull Repair Systems V
80. Leadership V
81. Fighters V
86. Scout Drone Operation V
88. Racial Drone Specialization V x4
93. Engineering V
98. Energy Emission Systems V
99. Capital Energy Emission Systems V
106. Cloaking IV
111. Targeting V
115. Multitasking IV
124. Shield Emission Systems V
129. Capital Shield Emission Systems V
134. Tactical Shield Manipulation V
139. Shield Operation V
144. Capital Shield Operation V
148. Energy Grid Upgrades IV
153. Energy Management V
158. Energy Pulse Weapons V
163. Energy Systems Operation V
168. Shield Compensation V
173. Shield Management V
177. Shield Upgrades IV
189. Hull Upgrades V
190. Mechanic V
199. Evasive Maneuvering V
203. Jump Drive Operation V
208. Jump Drive Calibration V
213. Jump Fuel Conservation V
222. Cybernetics V
229. Armored Warfare V
234. Armored Warfare Specialist V
239. Information Warfare V
244. Information Warfare Specialist V
249. Mining Foreman V
254. Mining Director V
258. Siege Warfare V
263. Siege Warfare Specialist V
267. Skirmish Warfare V
272. Skirmish Warfare Specialist V
277. Warfare Link Specialist V
282. Wing Command V
286. Fleet Command IV
291. Advanced Drone Interfacing V
296. Drone Durability V
301. Drone Navigation V
306. Drone Sharpshooting V
310. Electronic Warfare IV
315. Electronic Warfare Drone Interfacing V
That means you will need to train 735 int 585 mem 478 perc 290.5 will 283 cha (where primary attribute has x1 modifer and secondary has x0.5 modifer) ranks of skills. Ofcource it's not that simple as training skill to lev 5 takes a lot more time than lev 4 but it gets you rather rough ballbark in what order you might like to look at your stats. In reality I would go for Int/Perc/Mem/Will/Cha order and if possible then will / cha at least around 5. Reason for that being, that slightly higher Perc intially will get you into your carrier earlier at the cost of slightly longer training times when you are starting to 'max out' all your support class skills.
Max skilled mothership pilot is around 75 mil SP and approx 3.75 years of training (with +5 implant set). Reasonably skilled carrier is around 20 mil SP and approx 1 year of training (like actually able to use his ship for jumping around and able to fit capital sized tanking modules) altho one can propably sit in the hull as soon as 6 .. 7 months altho at that stage he could not be called yet 'capital ship pilot' as it would be same as sitting in battleship with small guns and shields boosters/ armor reppers.
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Malena
Perpetual Dawn
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Posted - 2007.08.04 14:19:00 -
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Originally by: Jennai
Originally by: cal nereus
Capital Ships III (or higher)
the only reason to train capships past 3 is if you want a titan. dreads, carriers, and moms don't get any bonus from that skill.
The skill description states that it gives 5% to agility for any ship requiring the capital ships skill, are you saying it is broken above level 3, or just that the difference isn't noticeable?
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Jennai
The Silent Rage
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.08.04 15:07:00 -
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Edited by: Jennai on 04/08/2007 15:07:20
Originally by: Malena
The skill description states that it gives 5% to agility for any ship requiring the capital ships skill, are you saying it is broken above level 3, or just that the difference isn't noticeable?
oh, I only looked at the ship itself not the skill. I assume the skill works as intended, but even then they're already so huge and slow that 5% agility isn't going to make much difference and there's a lot of other stuff that would be more useful.
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Sorted
EVE Empowerment League Navy
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.08.04 15:36:00 -
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Caldari Achura. Select Leadership 5 as a starting skill and do 5/4 Learning on all expect charisma. Get the +4s in early.
Use Evemon.
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