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Kayna Eelai
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Posted - 2007.08.06 18:13:00 -
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so, i grinded my ass off for 30K LP to buy a Republic Fleet Firetail Blueprint.
I thought I could try and make some minor business manufacturing them and selling them cheap.
OFC I tried to inform me a little before. I asked for 2 weeks, not even CCP helpers in the help channels knew exact answers.
the thing is this:
the BPO sais "licensed production runs remaining 1" "production limit 30"
so i thought i would be able to make one single run and build 30 ships.
NOT!
when in the factory it said i can't make 30 runs (and i had enough minerals and all) so i though it will probably be 30 times 1
after 1 1/4 the firetail was in my hangar... the BPO was gone
like WTF??? 2 weeks grinding lame boring missions for one ship i could easily have bought for money i make in 2 days?
so, my question and complaint is:
WTF does "licensed production runs remaining 1 / production limit 30" stand for and could CCP please... PRETTY PLEASE, make that whole BPO description easier to understand?
THX and bye
PS: i am gonna fly that ship now and suicide it somewhere, in protest for this bull****.
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Zim Tehirken
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Posted - 2007.08.06 19:49:00 -
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Its no bpo(riginal) you bought, its a copy to build 1 craft. As you found out by yourself.
If asked that questions of you by myself for quite some time, because the discription is very confusing.
Hope that will be claryfied soon...
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WhitePhantom
Gallente Edenists
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Posted - 2007.08.06 20:04:00 -
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Originally by: Kayna Eelai so, i grinded my ass off for 30K LP to buy a Republic Fleet Firetail Blueprint.
I thought I could try and make some minor business manufacturing them and selling them cheap.
OFC I tried to inform me a little before. I asked for 2 weeks, not even CCP helpers in the help channels knew exact answers.
the thing is this:
the BPO sais "licensed production runs remaining 1" "production limit 30"
so i thought i would be able to make one single run and build 30 ships.
NOT!
when in the factory it said i can't make 30 runs (and i had enough minerals and all) so i though it will probably be 30 times 1
after 1 1/4 the firetail was in my hangar... the BPO was gone
like WTF??? 2 weeks grinding lame boring missions for one ship i could easily have bought for money i make in 2 days?
so, my question and complaint is:
WTF does "licensed production runs remaining 1 / production limit 30" stand for and could CCP please... PRETTY PLEASE, make that whole BPO description easier to understand?
THX and bye
PS: i am gonna fly that ship now and suicide it somewhere, in protest for this bull****.
If you decided to blow up Republic Fleet Firetail because you were able to get it one at cost your crazy.
You didn't get a Blueprint Original, you got a Blueprint Copy like all Named Blueprints you cannot get the originals as they are not given out. The only originals your able to get are Tech I originals from the Market, and Tech II Originals Contracts as there are almost none left to be given out by R&D Agents.
The only thing you didn't understand is you were not going to be able to purchase the original, this come from lack of experience, so really only you have yourself to blame.
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Kayna Eelai
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Posted - 2007.08.06 22:36:00 -
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Originally by: WhitePhantom
The only thing you didn't understand is you were not going to be able to purchase the original, this come from lack of experience, so really only you have yourself to blame.
i don't think it's my fault when the description is totally confusing, indicating "production limit 30" whatever that might mean. and as u can see in this post, i am not the only one confused about it.
about blowing up the ship, it costs around 40M on the auctions, i can make 40M in 1-2 days. if i knew this crap in advance (and trust me, i tried to find out before, but no1 could give me 100% sure answers) i would not have spend 2 weeks on the damn LP farming and would have done something more productive and fun.
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Chris Stormrider
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Posted - 2007.08.06 22:50:00 -
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if I were you I would have built 1 and see how it goes. you're right, it sounds confusing, but even so, my and your inexpeerience (thus the confusion) doesn't mean it's wrong. maybe there's a reason... anyway, not THAT big deal, file a petition just in case
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Dr Trust
Minmatar Confederation of Red Moon Red Moon Federation
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Posted - 2007.08.07 00:24:00 -
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Originally by: Kayna Eelai
the BPO sais "licensed production runs remaining 1" "production limit 30"
does kinda answer its self imo runs 1 but limit is 30
well let me try and put ur mind at ease as to what u mis-understood
what its means is there is enough raw data on the Blueprint to mat 1 item , but the limt per production is 30 , this is there on all Blueprint copys and orginals just on origansl it states the runs as unlimted ,
its basically to stop ppl hogging the factory slots forever , by limiting how many items u can get per job installed into a factory
eg :a Frig Blueprint orginal has unlimted runs but a production limit of 30 , thus i can make as many as i like but im limited to making 30 at a time
if u where uncertain about what it mean i suggest in future u ask before jumping the gun and thinking u can out do mechanics of eve , ps if ud check the Blueprint before u grinded to make 30k lp u would have noticed they say number of runs "1" no BPC form LP is more then 1 ships worth of blueprint
pss saying u asked for 2 week , if ur english was the same way in the help channel i doubt they understood the question as it is im english and finding it hard to understand what u put
Quote: OFC I tried to inform me a little before. I asked for 2 weeks, not even CCP helpers in the help channels knew exact answers
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Dario Kaelenter
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Posted - 2007.08.07 12:49:00 -
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Edited by: Dario Kaelenter on 07/08/2007 12:52:13 (edited spelink)
Yeah the LP Store Blue Prints are somewhat unclear. Usually when I click on them it shows a very generic Blue Print that looks like it could be an unresearched BPO. The Description on the LP Store should really say how many runs. I know for something like the Amarr Navy Large EMP Smartbomb it does actually say 5 Run in the description.
Though if u think about it and the potential flow on effect of having a Faction BPO of those items it is very unlikely that they would ever dish out BPOs for faction items. In fact ALL faction item blue prints in game are copies. Those mystical powers that be hold on to their BPOs very jealously and only grudginly let BPCs leave their care. You'd only get a T2 BPO these days from a player that already has one and is selling one (or is silly enough to get Ganked and lose one )
The Licensed Production Runs is the number of actual build runs remaining on the BPC. The Production Limit is the Maximum number of runs possible on this item's BPC so is not really much use. It's really only of use for invention where you are best using Max Run BPCs and this figure helps you tell what that Max Runs figure is. Production limit doesn't really have much to do with hogging lab/station slots ... the limit on a production or research job is 30 days ... unless one run takes longer than than in which case 1 run is the limit.
Some people may have scored BPCs earlier on and so sell the ships at a lower price that the current value you could assign to them now thru the LP Store so in many cases it pays to shop around first. And as this isn't real $ your paying then often people in game are happy getting a much lower amount of isk for some items than what could be considered the cost price.
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Nocturnal Avenger
The Ankou The Reckoning.
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Posted - 2007.08.07 12:59:00 -
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Originally by: Kayna EelaiOFC I tried to inform me a little before. I asked for 2 weeks, not even CCP helpers in the help channels knew exact answers.[/quote
I feel your pain and am also shocked by the lack of correct information from the helpers. Any (most anyway) half year old player should be able to answer that rather simple question without hesitating.
Unless you are quitting the game, I don't really see the need to purposely crash the firetail.
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Kayna Eelai
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Posted - 2007.08.08 00:57:00 -
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Originally by: Nocturnal Avenger
Unless you are quitting the game, I don't really see the need to purposely crash the firetail.
well, to be comepletely honest i didn't suicide it yet. but i am gonna fit it for pvp and go berserk until it blows up (which with my little skills will be sooner than later)
i am still majorly ****ed about the poor descriptions on blueprints and specially on the poor information generally avaiable about the whole BPO thing.
if a BPO can only be used 1 time, why the hell do they have to write "production limit 30" if you can use it 1 time only anyways. it's plain stupid and confusing.
i wasted 2 weeks on boring missions... BTW was about to leave the game out of boredom, CCP should take note about this fact... but then: the more weeks we play, the more money they make, huh?
anyways, i'll not gonna do missions for a good while unless i need to make cash (through salvaging)... screw LP
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