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Helllooo
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Posted - 2007.08.07 20:08:00 -
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Will nos be too nerfed to be a viable option to stick on the domi? Is it just worth to use Neuts/Cap Boosters/Drones from now on?
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NoNah
Unseen University
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Posted - 2007.08.07 20:27:00 -
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Neutdomi's will be viable, and an interesting setup, but it depends on the general idea. Those who were crippled a lot by nos will be even more crippled by neuts.
Then again, nos domi's will eat neutdomis. Blasterdomis will beat both, unless the neutdomi's timing is increadible. And from that point you can make all kinds of hybrid domis.
Or even consider another ship - not that dominix will be a bad ship after patch.
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roadrage639
Caldari The Cons
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Posted - 2007.08.07 20:33:00 -
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the nos nerf wont effect a nos domi. The nerf is aking it so you can only nos someone until you cap % are equal... There for If you can't nos them any more it means your holding your tank fine. ---------------- If You Can't Kill It, Slap It! The Man Who Runs Will Fight Again
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NoNah
Unseen University
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Posted - 2007.08.07 20:35:00 -
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Originally by: roadrage639 the nos nerf wont effect a nos domi. The nerf is aking it so you can only nos someone until you cap % are equal... There for If you can't nos them any more it means your holding your tank fine.
You will still be stuck with an increadible 470 dps or less, which quite a few ships can tank if they can maintain their cap. I'd slap on a few neuts on it.
You can't tank the life out of carebears.
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XrayZ
Euphoria Foundation
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Posted - 2007.08.07 20:37:00 -
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the domi isnt made for nos, get over it and get some skills =)
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chicken dipper
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Posted - 2007.08.07 20:40:00 -
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Edited by: chicken dipper on 07/08/2007 20:41:19
Originally by: XrayZ the domi isnt made for nos, get over it and get some skills =)
yeh but xrayz a noob :) check ur convos in game xrayz
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Ogdru Jahad
Amarr Vendetta Underground Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.08.07 20:53:00 -
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Originally by: chicken dipper Edited by: chicken dipper on 07/08/2007 20:41:19
Originally by: XrayZ the domi isnt made for nos, get over it and get some skills =)
yeh but xrayz a noob :) check ur convos in game xrayz
with the exception of the curse and pilgrim... anyone who uses nos to cripple thier for is not that good anyways.
learn to pvp using the weapons designed for your ships and post with your main! -
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Xoduse
Gallente Beasts of Burden YouWhat
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Posted - 2007.08.07 20:57:00 -
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Originally by: Ogdru Jahad
Originally by: chicken dipper Edited by: chicken dipper on 07/08/2007 20:41:19
Originally by: XrayZ the domi isnt made for nos, get over it and get some skills =)
yeh but xrayz a noob :) check ur convos in game xrayz
with the exception of the curse and pilgrim... anyone who uses nos to cripple thier for is not that good anyways.
learn to pvp using the weapons designed for your ships and post with your main!
QFT. Do i care if the nos domi is nerfed? Heck no because I have the gunnery skills to back up the bonus all the nos domi lovers are missing out on. Nos domis are for lazy people and new players wanting an excuse to fly a battleship. ---------------------------------
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Ogdru Jahad
Amarr Vendetta Underground Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.08.07 20:59:00 -
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Originally by: Xoduse
Originally by: Ogdru Jahad
Originally by: chicken dipper Edited by: chicken dipper on 07/08/2007 20:41:19
Originally by: XrayZ the domi isnt made for nos, get over it and get some skills =)
yeh but xrayz a noob :) check ur convos in game xrayz
with the exception of the curse and pilgrim... anyone who uses nos to cripple thier for is not that good anyways.
learn to pvp using the weapons designed for your ships and post with your main!
QFT. Do i care if the nos domi is nerfed? Heck no because I have the gunnery skills to back up the bonus all the nos domi lovers are missing out on. Nos domis are for lazy people and new players wanting an excuse to fly a battleship.
not implying anything to decent pvpers. but when they use one of two nos domi's to take down one ship because 7 6 month old chrs in tier 3 bs's cant do it.. then it proves a point! -
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Wayward Hooligan
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.08.07 21:04:00 -
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6 month old characters shouldn't be in tier 3 BS. Their gunnery skills will most likely be utter crap and their support skills will be even more crap if they do have decent gunnery.
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Spenz
Gallente Dark Knights of Deneb Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.08.07 21:21:00 -
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The fact that the domi has the worst PG of any battleship doesnt matter when it comes to fitting guns on it Im sure
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Alex SOKOLOFF
4S Corporation Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.08.07 21:38:00 -
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I demand more PG on domi after NOS nerf!
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Skraeling Shortbus
Caldari Gallente Federal Bank
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Posted - 2007.08.07 21:41:00 -
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Originally by: Spenz The fact that the domi has the worst PG of any battleship doesnt matter when it comes to fitting guns on it Im sure
qft. Exactly why we fit nos to begin with.
I would LOVE to be able to take advantage of the second bonus, but meh just dont have the pg to do it. WTB more highslot mods that are useful.
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Setana Manoro
Gallente Firefly Inc.
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Posted - 2007.08.07 21:47:00 -
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Originally by: Spenz The fact that the domi has the worst PG of any battleship doesnt matter when it comes to fitting guns on it Im sure
There are ways to circumvent that. :)
Caldari are the plague of EVE, little whiners that must be cleansed from TQ. |
Markus Aurelian
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Posted - 2007.08.07 21:50:00 -
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Originally by: Setana Manoro
Originally by: Spenz The fact that the domi has the worst PG of any battleship doesnt matter when it comes to fitting guns on it Im sure
There are ways to circumvent that. :)
QFT
its not like the domi is the only ship in the game that has trouble fitting its race's biggest guns along with a tank. Meatwad FTW |
Mithrantir Ob'lontra
Gallente Ixion Defence Systems The Cyrene Initiative
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Posted - 2007.08.07 22:21:00 -
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Originally by: Skraeling Shortbus
Originally by: Spenz The fact that the domi has the worst PG of any battleship doesnt matter when it comes to fitting guns on it Im sure
qft. Exactly why we fit nos to begin with.
I would LOVE to be able to take advantage of the second bonus, but meh just dont have the pg to do it. WTB more highslot mods that are useful.
Excuse me, but NOS as a module in general has more PG fitting needs than a same size gun module. And if you add the fact that there is the AWU skill (it helps a lot), i am fairly confident that the previous statement is valid.
As the 2 previous people pointed also, you can circumvent the low PG number by a number of ways.
And you are right about the low number of choices for the high slot modules.
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Gawain Hill
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Posted - 2007.08.07 22:38:00 -
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Edited by: Gawain Hill on 07/08/2007 22:38:50 ok so heavy nos are more difficult to fit than ANY of the T2 blasters... and yet you hear people moaning about grid... nos take up more grid than blasters - blasters use less grid than nos - people say not enough grid for blasters
what am i missing?
*wonders if people are trying to fit extra large blasters to a domi by mistake*
Edit: p.s. i did look at rail guns and nos are a lil easier to fit than those
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Xoduse
Gallente Beasts of Burden YouWhat
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Posted - 2007.08.07 22:41:00 -
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Originally by: Gawain Hill Edited by: Gawain Hill on 07/08/2007 22:38:50 ok so heavy nos are more difficult to fit than ANY of the T2 blasters... and yet you hear people moaning about grid... nos take up more grid than blasters - blasters use less grid than nos - people say not enough grid for blasters
what am i missing?
*wonders if people are trying to fit extra large blasters to a domi by mistake*
Edit: p.s. i did look at rail guns and nos are a lil easier to fit than those
Well what they don't understand is electrons do great damage, but everyone has neutron fever. ---------------------------------
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Lore Isander
Caldari Paisti
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Posted - 2007.08.07 22:45:00 -
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Originally by: Gawain Hill Edited by: Gawain Hill on 07/08/2007 22:38:50 ok so heavy nos are more difficult to fit than ANY of the T2 blasters... and yet you hear people moaning about grid... nos take up more grid than blasters - blasters use less grid than nos - people say not enough grid for blasters
what am i missing?
*wonders if people are trying to fit extra large blasters to a domi by mistake*
Edit: p.s. i did look at rail guns and nos are a lil easier to fit than those
You are missing that they can only fit 2 Heavy Nos, good luck with fitting 6 Large Blasters, even if it is Electrons.
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Gawain Hill
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Posted - 2007.08.07 22:49:00 -
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Originally by: Xoduse
Originally by: Gawain Hill Edited by: Gawain Hill on 07/08/2007 22:38:50 ok so heavy nos are more difficult to fit than ANY of the T2 blasters... and yet you hear people moaning about grid... nos take up more grid than blasters - blasters use less grid than nos - people say not enough grid for blasters
what am i missing?
*wonders if people are trying to fit extra large blasters to a domi by mistake*
Edit: p.s. i did look at rail guns and nos are a lil easier to fit than those
Well what they don't understand is electrons do great damage, but everyone has neutron fever.
you know i thought i just worked it out and people were gettin cpu mixed up with power grid but sadly not nos are more difficult to fit than any of the blasers i say nerf the nos domi and strip it of 50 cpu and 500 grid then people might start to have trouble fittin a rack of heavy nos
p.s. an abaddon can fit a full rack of 8 T2 heavy nos so please all jump off the nos domi band waggon or 7 T2 nos and a smart bomb to get rid of drones + a crazy tank
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Markus Aurelian
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Posted - 2007.08.07 23:06:00 -
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Originally by: Gawain Hill
Originally by: Xoduse
Originally by: Gawain Hill Edited by: Gawain Hill on 07/08/2007 22:38:50 ok so heavy nos are more difficult to fit than ANY of the T2 blasters... and yet you hear people moaning about grid... nos take up more grid than blasters - blasters use less grid than nos - people say not enough grid for blasters
what am i missing?
*wonders if people are trying to fit extra large blasters to a domi by mistake*
Edit: p.s. i did look at rail guns and nos are a lil easier to fit than those
Well what they don't understand is electrons do great damage, but everyone has neutron fever.
you know i thought i just worked it out and people were gettin cpu mixed up with power grid but sadly not nos are more difficult to fit than any of the blasers i say nerf the nos domi and strip it of 50 cpu and 500 grid then people might start to have trouble fittin a rack of heavy nos
p.s. an abaddon can fit a full rack of 8 T2 heavy nos so please all jump off the nos domi band waggon or 7 T2 nos and a smart bomb to get rid of drones + a crazy tank
Yeah and an abaddon has a 75 m3 drone bay with 0 bonuses to drones...not to mention that lasers take more grid than blasters, so the additional grid (it being amarr and tier 3) is COMPLETELY justified. and even with that grid, try fitting a full rack of tachyons.
people complained about the nosdomi because nos+drones was stupidly broken, but a domi with full rack of neutrons+ogreII's and perfect skills is one of the highest damage BS's in the game. tank is paper thin, but since when was a tier 1 BS supposed to have both gank+tank? or any bs for that matter, but thats another topic entireley Meatwad FTW |
Leikeze Mrotserif
coracao ardente Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.08.08 04:30:00 -
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6x Heavy neutron blaster II's on a domi gives about the same damage as using a rack of Electron cannnon II's.
Fitting is much better and stll allows you to use the full tank setup in lows.
Altho im deeply saddened by the nos nerf, i look forward to getting more into my blasterdomi setups.
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CHAOS100
Momentum. The Reckoning.
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Posted - 2007.08.08 08:02:00 -
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6 guns + 1 lar tank, anyone? 1 cap booster will still give plenty enough cap for that. --------------
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Pinky Denmark
The Cursed Navy
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Posted - 2007.08.08 08:22:00 -
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People only cry because they put a very heavy tank on the domi in the first place... - I'm a nice guy!!
MOA is NOT UGLY!!! It's A FREAK SHOW!!!! |
lyrenna
Caldari The Renaissance The Makhai
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Posted - 2007.08.08 08:37:00 -
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time to pewpew and using the large hyrid bonus of domi the fat
=== when you armor tank a raven god kills a kitten. === |
sliver 0xD
Cosmic Odyssey YouWhat
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Posted - 2007.08.08 09:10:00 -
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Originally by: XrayZ the domi isnt made for nos, get over it and get some skills =)
but years of balanceing have made it a ship that can only be used with a nosf setup. |
Darth Kenzie
Amarr Ganja Labs Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.08 09:16:00 -
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TBH,the nos nerf just means that nos boats need some skill to operate... I fly a nos/nano curse as my "ace" ship. As with a nos domi all u need to pwn is the ability to dmg your own cap... a micro warp and nuet will do that very nicly on any set up, throw in a double rep tank and this doubly true.
In short the only pilots the nos change hurts are fools who never understood how to fly their ships... nos is still very powerfull... now it just requires brians to use... oh noes an i win replaced by a if you fly your ship right mod... how ever will us nos nos boats survive? ------- Even my barge has kills... |
Neo Rainhart
Caldari Leela's Lamas
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Posted - 2007.08.08 09:53:00 -
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Originally by: Darth Kenzie TBH,the nos nerf just means that nos boats need some skill to operate... I fly a nos/nano curse as my "ace" ship. As with a nos domi all u need to pwn is the ability to dmg your own cap... a micro warp and nuet will do that very nicly on any set up, throw in a double rep tank and this doubly true.
In short the only pilots the nos change hurts are fools who never understood how to fly their ships... nos is still very powerfull... now it just requires brians to use... oh noes an i win replaced by a if you fly your ship right mod... how ever will us nos nos boats survive?
So very true ..Guess this nerf just cuts off all the newbs who have no actual pilot skills but still think their uber in their nosdomis because they can take down a cap dependant ship (A shiny astarte i.e) by just pressing F1 - F6..and then smacking about how they pwn, without any actual effort at all..And now they are all upset because of the nosnerf and will start flying megathrons with small railguns and i can have my sweet revenge Hello world
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Ask Unbeatable
Gallente HighTech Marines Ltd. FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.08 12:03:00 -
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Edited by: Ask Unbeatable on 08/08/2007 12:09:48 Edited by: Ask Unbeatable on 08/08/2007 12:08:51
Originally by: Skraeling Shortbus
Originally by: Spenz The fact that the domi has the worst PG of any battleship doesnt matter when it comes to fitting guns on it Im sure
qft. Exactly why we fit nos to begin with.
I would LOVE to be able to take advantage of the second bonus, but meh just dont have the pg to do it. WTB more highslot mods that are useful.
Nos takes more pg than Electron and Ion L Blasters?
Edit: 4x Electron II's 2x Ion II's
2x Med Cap injectors 1x Quad Lif MWD 1x 24km Scram 1x Webber
2x 1600mm plates 2x Magstabs 1x Dmg Ctrl 2x EANM II
3x Trimark rigs
And thats with AWU 3, you can probably fit another Ion with AWU5
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Azuse
The Brotherhood Of The Blade The Makhai
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Posted - 2007.08.08 12:21:00 -
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The term nerf is thrown around daily but totally incorrect, ccp very rarely nerf anything, they changed the mechanics when large groups of players abuse the ones they originally set down.
After the patch nos will still be viable, but only on ships which actually need it, e.g nos/neut curse, amarrians ship (highest cap recharge) and hacs. The dominix was never designed nor intended for nos, it is a pure damage ship which unfortunately means a very skill intensive ship, like every other drone ship in the game .
Ppl fly vexors with small neutrons fitted all the time, how many dominix pilots do you see flying around with medium neutrons fitted (despite being able to fit 2 heavy injectors and do crazy damage compared to the nos twits). It like the eve community is split, some using blasters and decimating all comers, some using rails and sentry drones (with a bunch of drones mods) to snipe, yes you can snipe ina drone boat, get over it, and the bulk of them fitting nos then going afk for 5 min while the drones eat the other guy. If you need to fit nos on a bs because you don't have the skills for turrets, you honestly shouldn't be in a bs.
On a more personal note. I strongly urge each and every eos and ishtar pilot here to make it their sole goal in life the week after the nos patch to hunt down and pod each and every dominix pilot they can find still attempting to nos you to death .
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