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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.01.14 00:46:00 -
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scams are a part of the game, as long as the scammer isn't taking advantage of a bug. deal with it. it's just another form of PvP.
what's next, do you want suicide gankers to be banned? you're hilarious |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1528
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Posted - 2012.01.14 02:31:00 -
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Zleon Leigh wrote:Andski wrote:scams are a part of the game, as long as the scammer isn't taking advantage of a bug. deal with it. it's just another form of PvP.
what's next, do you want suicide gankers to be banned? you're hilarious Suicide gankers encounter risk/reward. No balance at all in scamming - it's win for them and loose on so many fronts it's almost impossible to count for us.
the risk/reward doctrine doesn't apply to everything in eve, and there's risk in scamming (getting outed, wasting your time, etc.)
the OP is an idiot for getting scammed and crying about it on the forums |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.01.14 03:13:00 -
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Zleon Leigh wrote:Really? Risk/reward is all I hear is driving every part of EVE. CCP blather's it constantly. Sandbox proponents say it is required to hold the box together.
Getting outed? So what? They are not going anywhere anyways - the trade hubs are their safe holes while isk/material is transferred anonymously to alts. Many Pilots are claiming that scamming is the most lucrative career there is - because there is zero downside and all it takes are simple bots to execute adverts and scams.
Scamming is the disease that holds EVE back. If it's going to be a trade and continue to be supported by fail, but fully endorsed CCP mechanics - then it needs a balance before the disease finishes eroding the new player base away.
Actually, using macros to spam adverts or create contracts/trades IS bannable. Making scamming bannable would destroy any notion of Eve being a "sandbox." You're an idiot. |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1528
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Posted - 2012.01.14 03:14:00 -
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Montevius Williams wrote:Andski wrote:Zleon Leigh wrote:Andski wrote:scams are a part of the game, as long as the scammer isn't taking advantage of a bug. deal with it. it's just another form of PvP.
what's next, do you want suicide gankers to be banned? you're hilarious Suicide gankers encounter risk/reward. No balance at all in scamming - it's win for them and loose on so many fronts it's almost impossible to count for us. the risk/reward doctrine doesn't apply to everything in eve, and there's risk in scamming (getting outed, wasting your time, etc.) the OP is an idiot for getting scammed and crying about it on the forums lol Wasting your time? I dont consider that a risk. If you consider that a risk, apply that to EVERYTHING you do in EVE. I need to travel 10 jumps to my level 4 mission, that takes time (risk) I need to mine these minerals, that takes time (risk) I need to set up my PI colony, that takes time (risk) Wasting time is not a risk. It's a part of doing business yes, but its not a risk.
I don't really care what you consider a "risk" or not.
If I join a corp, spend 6 months working my way up the ranks and ultimately find that they have nothing worth stealing, despite evidence to the contrary, there goes 6 months of my time. Six months that I could have spent scamming, doing PvE or making ISK through other means. Yes, wasting time is a risk and you're an idiot. |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1528
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Posted - 2012.01.14 03:31:00 -
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Montevius Williams wrote:So a better statement would be to say that risk is situational, dumbass idiot. 
Because that's the only situation where wasted time is possible, right?
With margin trading scams, you have the risk that someone with a stockpile of whatever item you're working with will dump into your buy order. With public contract scams, you risk a ton of ISK in fees. Trade window scams are a "grey area" and exploiting lag comes with the risk of a ban, if the GM is inclined to investigate and concludes that taking advantage of lag (which isn't a real game mechanic) was your intent.
Now, when you complain about scamming being risk-free, you're being selective of what you consider a "risk," but of course, ISK or time wasted isn't a risk, right? |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.01.14 03:48:00 -
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Zleon Leigh wrote:And you can't read. I never said they should be bannable. I said there should be consequences, such as sec hit and station ejection.l
nah that's dumb |
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