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Vytoryn
Collection Ring
1
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Posted - 2012.01.14 23:06:00 -
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If there is a problem with the ship i will post changes to be made. So done worry to much i'm sure the build team will make the changes when they. Release the the new patches notes. |
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
2760
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Posted - 2012.01.15 00:03:00 -
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You want a tech 3 ship heres one!
Urania
Technology Level Tech 3
Hull Class Discovery Ship
Mission Role Modular Science Vessel
Description The Sister's long time estranged ally the Intaki, have brokered a deal involving the development of the Urania with information secreted from the Gallente empire concerning Proteus construction methoods. Though the development of the Proteus capability is well gaurded. The Sisters where more interested in the modular capabilities the technology the stragetic cruiser had to apply to a new hull that would better suit the needs of fringe explorers.
Discovery Ship Bonus 5% Reduction in Heat Damage per level Base Fitting Calibration 400 3 Rigs 5 Subsystems
Shields Recharge 1050 Resists 70 55 35 65
Armor Resists 50 35 20 25
Hull 2604 Mass 11.2M kg Warp Speed 2.6 AU/s
Engineering Capacitor Recharge 310
Electronics Radar Targets Locked 6 Signature Radius 270m
Navigation Subsystems
Gravitational Subcapacitor Unable to match military grade purposlion systems, the Sisters found a creative workaround in the fullerite construction involved in the venting heatsinks that allows it to recapture energy vented out the coolant systems and it reduces the power needed for form warp spheres and amplifies the warp field compression when ship enters warp.
10% Warp Speed and Capacitor Need per Subsystem Level Mid +1 Velocity 130m/s Agility 0.52
Interdiction Nullifer Unlike the Guristas developed variant, this nullifier works by turning the entire hull into a large warp field capacitor and in essence prevents any warp sphere from collasping in the first place. This cheaply cancels out the effect of indirect interdiciton methoods which prevents the formation of the warp field.
Nullifies Untargeted Interdiction 4% Increase Agility per level Velocity 115m/s Agility 0.71
Interception Nullifer By shielding the gravity core of all extrenal effects prevents any effect of a stasis webifier or a direct target scrambler from working. However any phenomen that causes the prevention of warp field generation in local space cannot be countered with the shielding.
Nullifies Targeted Purpolsion Jamming 4% Increased Velocity per level Velocity 130m/s Agility 0.48
Wake Resonator
By harvesting the radiation bursts emitted by microwarp reaction mass and refocusing it into the a narrowband emission allows for the Urania to activate a microwarp drive for much lesser capacitor and dissolves much of the increased electronic foot print microwarps usually cause.
2.5% Microwarp Drive Capacitor Need and Signature Penalty per level Mid +1 Velocity 145m/s Agility 0.63
I got other subsystem but you get the idea.
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RubyPorto
Profoundly Disturbed RED.Legion
1212
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Posted - 2012.01.15 00:41:00 -
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Nova Fox wrote: Interception Nullifer By shielding the gravity core of all extrenal effects prevents any effect of a stasis webifier or a direct target scrambler from working. However any phenomen that causes the prevention of warp field generation in local space cannot be countered with the shielding.
Nullifies Targeted Purpolsion Jamming 4% Increased Velocity per level Velocity 130m/s Agility 0.48
Haahaa. No. |
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
2760
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Posted - 2012.01.15 00:50:00 -
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RubyPorto wrote:Nova Fox wrote: Interception Nullifer By shielding the gravity core of all extrenal effects prevents any effect of a stasis webifier or a direct target scrambler from working. However any phenomen that causes the prevention of warp field generation in local space cannot be countered with the shielding.
Nullifies Targeted Purpolsion Jamming 4% Increased Velocity per level Velocity 130m/s Agility 0.48
Haahaa. No.
Meh I havent sat down to do the field testing yet. Problems are abound to pop up.
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RubyPorto
Profoundly Disturbed RED.Legion
1212
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Posted - 2012.01.15 01:18:00 -
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Nova Fox wrote:RubyPorto wrote:Nova Fox wrote: Interception Nullifer By shielding the gravity core of all extrenal effects prevents any effect of a stasis webifier or a direct target scrambler from working. However any phenomen that causes the prevention of warp field generation in local space cannot be countered with the shielding.
Nullifies Targeted Purpolsion Jamming 4% Increased Velocity per level Velocity 130m/s Agility 0.48
Haahaa. No. Meh I havent sat down to do the field testing yet. Problems are abound to pop up.
Read about PvP before the Warp Core Stab nerf. How many low slots you got? Well that's how many points they need. |
Fawcks
Avoid and Evade Epsilon Shimmy Alliance
175
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Posted - 2012.01.15 02:27:00 -
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Vytoryn wrote:I have a new ship for you I like to see in game. The new mining ship is a tech3 mining ship. Its called the Behemoth. Here is the build.
cargo capacity 100'000.00 high slots 4 medium slots 4 low slots 4
Role Bonus able to mine gas,ice,asteroids 250% to scanner range 100% to tractor beam range 50% to tractor beam velocity 15% to bonus mining drone bay 100m3 drone band with 75Mbit/sec
Along with a new gang link module: increased ranged tech 1 (15 meters) tech 2 (30 meters)" Except it needs 70 different skill books and a virgin sacrifice to have necessary flying skills. |
Fawcks
Avoid and Evade Epsilon Shimmy Alliance
175
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Posted - 2012.01.15 02:27:00 -
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Also, how come it can't carry drones? |
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
2760
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Posted - 2012.01.15 02:41:00 -
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RubyPorto wrote:Nova Fox wrote:RubyPorto wrote:Nova Fox wrote: Interception Nullifer By shielding the gravity core of all extrenal effects prevents any effect of a stasis webifier or a direct target scrambler from working. However any phenomen that causes the prevention of warp field generation in local space cannot be countered with the shielding.
Nullifies Targeted Purpolsion Jamming 4% Increased Velocity per level Velocity 130m/s Agility 0.48
Haahaa. No. Meh I havent sat down to do the field testing yet. Problems are abound to pop up. Read about PvP before the Warp Core Stab nerf. How many low slots you got? Well that's how many points they need.
Not enough to save the ship from an alpha.
Its a civillian ship.
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Mardero
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
3
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Posted - 2012.01.15 03:23:00 -
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WTB uber mining ship that can't be flown by bots. |
gfldex
269
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Posted - 2012.01.15 06:29:00 -
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Bienator II wrote:can it tractor beam the belt to the station undock?
No, it can tractor the entire belt around. Drag the whole thing right next to a station or play games with your competitors.
More gameplay, less waitplay! Down with AFK-Cloaking! Down with AFK-Alliances! Down with AFK-Mining! |
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Ris Dnalor
Black Rebel Rifter Club
159
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Posted - 2012.01.15 06:40:00 -
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Vytoryn wrote:I have a new ship for you I like to see in game. The new mining ship is a tech3 mining ship. Its called the Behemoth. Here is the build.
cargo capacity 100'000.00 high slots 4 medium slots 4 low slots 4
Role Bonus able to mine gas,ice,asteroids 250% to scanner range 100% to tractor beam range 50% to tractor beam velocity 15% to bonus mining drone bay 100m3 drone band with 75Mbit/sec
Along with a new gang link module: increased ranged tech 1 (15 meters) tech 2 (30 meters)"
Do this.
Just as long as it cannot enter security status .5 or above
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RubyPorto
Profoundly Disturbed RED.Legion
1214
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Posted - 2012.01.15 07:28:00 -
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Ris Dnalor wrote:Vytoryn wrote:I have a new ship for you I like to see in game. The new mining ship is a tech3 mining ship. Its called the Behemoth. Here is the build.
cargo capacity 100'000.00 high slots 4 medium slots 4 low slots 4
Role Bonus able to mine gas,ice,asteroids 250% to scanner range 100% to tractor beam range 50% to tractor beam velocity 15% to bonus mining drone bay 100m3 drone band with 75Mbit/sec
Along with a new gang link module: increased ranged tech 1 (15 meters) tech 2 (30 meters)" Do this. Just as long as it cannot enter security status .5 or above
Especially since it doesn't look like it can fit strip miners or Ice harvesters.
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RubyPorto
Profoundly Disturbed RED.Legion
1214
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Posted - 2012.01.15 07:30:00 -
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Nova Fox wrote:RubyPorto wrote:Nova Fox wrote:RubyPorto wrote:Nova Fox wrote: Interception Nullifer By shielding the gravity core of all extrenal effects prevents any effect of a stasis webifier or a direct target scrambler from working. However any phenomen that causes the prevention of warp field generation in local space cannot be countered with the shielding.
Nullifies Targeted Purpolsion Jamming 4% Increased Velocity per level Velocity 130m/s Agility 0.48
Haahaa. No. Meh I havent sat down to do the field testing yet. Problems are abound to pop up. Read about PvP before the Warp Core Stab nerf. How many low slots you got? Well that's how many points they need. Not enough to save the ship from an alpha. Its a civillian ship.
And in Low/Null where nobody (outside big fleets) keeps enough alpha to do a suicide gank. Or Hisec in a wardec?
Being immune to targeted points is an absurd power. It means you're effectively immune to bubbles as well, since you can mwd right out and nobody can stop you. |
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
2760
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Posted - 2012.01.15 08:33:00 -
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RubyPorto wrote:
And in Low/Null where nobody (outside big fleets) keeps enough alpha to do a suicide gank. Or Hisec in a wardec?
Being immune to targeted points is an absurd power. It means you're effectively immune to bubbles as well, since you can mwd right out and nobody can stop you.
And AFK cloakers are just as bad your point? and who in the hell sets up a bubble with no sebo support, it should be the first thing they're are expecting 1 somone jumps realizes bubble then does the mwd cloak trick, 2 warps aligned to something and hope the lag will save them or 3 mwd's out anyways and hopes for the best.
Also I could just remove the web part as well since, well there isnt just bonus in the game yet either and it was once again dropped for the assault frigates due to some wonky technical errors with the phsyics engine, and being a ship that reliant on this mass for her current agiliy and accelration slamming on a mwd would probably not work too well in the first few seconds.
I also could state that shielding the warp core prevents the microwarp drive from working as well leaving only afterburners as a speed option to escape a bubble camp.
And you're saying you cannot gank a hulk like ship in a small gate camp that fast? Makes me wonder if somone where to show up in a slightly smaller size murder force would screw over the camp.
Finally it is a sisters of eve ship dont expect a battleship out of this thing at all. pea shooter only be enough to discourage a frigate from harassing its not supposed to be getting tangeled up in fights in the first place.
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RubyPorto
Profoundly Disturbed RED.Legion
1215
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Posted - 2012.01.15 08:46:00 -
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Nova Fox wrote:RubyPorto wrote:
And in Low/Null where nobody (outside big fleets) keeps enough alpha to do a suicide gank. Or Hisec in a wardec?
Being immune to targeted points is an absurd power. It means you're effectively immune to bubbles as well, since you can mwd right out and nobody can stop you.
And AFK cloakers are just as bad your point? and who in the hell sets up a bubble with no sebo support, it should be the first thing they're are expecting 1 somone jumps realizes bubble then does the mwd cloak trick, 2 warps aligned to something and hope the lag will save them or 3 mwd's out anyways and hopes for the best. Also I could just remove the web part as well since, well there isnt just bonus in the game yet either and it was once again dropped for the assault frigates due to some wonky technical errors with the phsyics engine, and being a ship that reliant on this mass for her current agiliy and accelration slamming on a mwd would probably not work too well in the first few seconds. I also could state that shielding the warp core prevents the microwarp drive from working as well leaving only afterburners as a speed option to escape a bubble camp. And you're saying you cannot gank a hulk like ship in a small gate camp that fast? Makes me wonder if somone where to show up in a slightly smaller size murder force would screw over the camp. Finally it is a sisters of eve ship dont expect a battleship out of this thing at all. pea shooter only be enough to discourage a frigate from harassing its not supposed to be getting tangeled up in fights in the first place.
If you don't get why being immune to points is ridiculously OP, I'm not sure what to tell you.
Consider the lowsec Gatecamp. You do the MWD/Cloak trick (or an AB/Cloak trick), and you'd need some really good bumps to kill you.
And removing the web immunity makes it worse. "Pointed"... "Webbed".... "wtf, he warped off" Oh, it's that ridiculous ship.
Think of what it took to kill a Super or Titan in Lowsec before the advent of the HIC. You had to keep it neuted below 70% and bumped away from aligning to keep it from running. It was silly. |
J Kunjeh
327
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Posted - 2012.01.15 09:00:00 -
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RubyPorto wrote:mkint wrote:Hmm... need a troll massive enough to get this thread locked, but my own posts not erased...
This thread is now about bacon made into desserts.
I hear there's a restaurant in England making bacon and egg ice cream. They make it taste eggy by tempering the custard too fast or something, then add bacon drippings to make it taste bacony. That sounds delicious. Reminds me that I just cooked up my weekly batch of bacon earlier today. I found that I eat more of the deliciousness if I don't have to cook it right when I want to eat it. And if you bake it at ~400F in the bottom of the pan (not on a rack like the crazy people on the box tell you to), it crisps up almost like cooking it in the pan. While there's nothing like soggy bacon straight from the pan, bakefried bacon is just as good as panfried bacon once you're in the reheating stage. EDIT: @ OP: No.
Get thee a NuWave oven...makes the best bacon EVER and you don't have bacon grease splashed over every surface in your kitchen.
"The world as we know it came about through an anomaly (anomou)" (The Gospel of Philip, 1-5)-á |
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
2761
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Posted - 2012.01.15 17:25:00 -
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RubyPorto wrote:
If you don't get why being immune to points is ridiculously OP, I'm not sure what to tell you.
Consider the lowsec Gatecamp. You do the MWD/Cloak trick (or an AB/Cloak trick), and you'd need some really good bumps to kill you.
And removing the web immunity makes it worse. "Pointed"... "Webbed".... "wtf, he warped off" Oh, it's that ridiculous ship.
Think of what it took to kill a Super or Titan in Lowsec before the advent of the HIC. You had to keep it neuted below 70% and bumped away from aligning to keep it from running. It was silly.
Ahem, I was there and if you look WCS are still in the game and was never removed.
What CCP had a real issue with was not people being able to not die, they had an issue with people engaging in combat killing somebody THEN running away if things began to look bad for them.
and Two you didnt read my reply where I was willing to nerf the damn thing so I guess its falling of deaf ears.
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Atticus Lowa
Lowa Corp Industries and Security
3
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Posted - 2012.01.15 19:49:00 -
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any reason we can just add more subsystems to strategic cruisers? i was thinking a mining variant simmilar though more powerful than mining cruisers, maybe extra capacity bonuses...
oh wait... the Tech 3 ships we have now are already too powerful, maybe it angers the mitanni that there could POSSIBLY be a situation where miners CAN'T be ganked .
oh well, a dedicated gas harvester would be nice, but i don't think we need any new mining ships otherwise, i mean we ALREADY have the hulk, for pure harvesting what else? i think any more than that is perhaps too much for any one person. |
ShipToaster
93
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Posted - 2012.01.15 19:58:00 -
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Move this to F&I and let it die the death it deserves. The only contact I want to have with eve university is if I can have them all ****** to death by space robo donkeys.
Griefing CCP - Bounties for E-Uni Ganking: action continues. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=343354#post343354 |
Ayuren Aakiwa
K1llUminat1
7
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Posted - 2012.01.15 20:06:00 -
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I think this needs x81765367823 more ehp and resists |
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P42ALPHA
DEAD-ON
34
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Posted - 2012.01.15 20:31:00 -
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Tepir wrote:where are the subsystems ?
i got an idea :
Offensive Mining subsystems : 100 % to mining yield amount per lvl , 96 to 99 decrease in cpu demand for covert ops cloaking device and ability to mine while cloaked .
Defensive mining subsystems: Gives imunity to any form of NPC damage and +2 to warp core strenght per level
engineering mining subsystem : 5 % to capacitor capacity per level and enhanced Auto Pilot version (should allow your ship to mine on its own and dock to station, unload cargo and return and mine all over again)
Navinagation subsystems: Ability to detect hostiles in local and warp away on first sight of trouble . Also 20% of ship agility per level.
electronic subsystems:decrease maximum naumber of people who can target you at same time . at lvl 0 unlimited number of people can lock you, at lvl 5 only one guy can lock you (good thing against suicide ganks!)
You forgot, all subsystems make the ship immune to damage, and shoots a doomsday at any ship that uses e-warfare on it. "All hail Wang ... the little fella in Command. When 'trouble' starts to spread, I'm sure he will rise to the occasion."
Azahni Vah'nos (Best reply ever) |
Vytoryn
Collection Ring
7
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Posted - 2012.01.26 22:13:00 -
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I've made a few changes the to the Behemoth i droped the cargo size and a few others |
Farek Antus
Collection Ring
0
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Posted - 2012.01.26 22:22:00 -
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Oh boy. |
Renan Ruivo
Hipernova Vera Cruz Alliance
750
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Posted - 2012.01.26 22:24:00 -
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I agree. More ships are always better.
However, if its a T3 where are the subsystems?
While they're at it i want salvaging drones and i want 5 high slots on this ship. It should be able to cloak and still maintain lock on the rocks. The world is a community of idiots doing a series of things until it explodes and we all die. |
Vytoryn
Collection Ring
7
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Posted - 2012.01.27 01:32:00 -
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the is a ship sub systems is an upgrade based on the hulk its not going to have a cloak because its a mining barge |
RubyPorto
Profoundly Disturbed RED.Legion
1289
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Posted - 2012.01.27 01:39:00 -
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Vytoryn wrote:the is a ship sub systems are based on the (hulk mostly, and a little on the orca) its not going to have a cloak because its a mining barge
The Hulk is fine as is. The Orca is fine as is.
The Hulk is supposed to be the best general purpose miner. The Mack the best Ice Miner, and the Skiff the best Merx miner. The Orca is supposed to be a command ship with storage capabilities, the Rorq the same but better.
Besides more yield and more cargo, what does your idea bring to the table?
N.B. Increased perfect yield != Increased profits. This is due to the Drone Regions (for high end ores) and the proliferation of max specced miner toons in Hisec, and the ease and safety which mining is done in hisec (for low ends). Single-Shard, Player Driven Sandbox.
5 words. That's what makes it special in my eyes. |
Vytoryn
Collection Ring
7
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Posted - 2012.01.27 01:46:00 -
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thats the whole point better (yield and cargo) |
RubyPorto
Profoundly Disturbed RED.Legion
1289
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Posted - 2012.01.27 02:18:00 -
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Vytoryn wrote:thats the whole point better (yield and cargo)
1) Why do you want better yield and cargo?
2) CCP has said for quite a long time that the Hulk is the highest yield mining ship in the game and always will be. Single-Shard, Player Driven Sandbox.
5 words. That's what makes it special in my eyes. |
Arctur Vallfar
Knights Adamant
71
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Posted - 2012.01.27 02:53:00 -
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You forgot the DD. |
Anderron Shi
Perkone Caldari State
14
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Posted - 2012.01.27 03:02:00 -
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Wow, is this thread really still on the front page of General Discussion? Get some! |
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