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Endless Subversion
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Posted - 2007.08.18 13:12:00 -
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It would be nice to see this drone fixed.
Currently they are stacking penalized with web modules and each other. 3 Heavy drones is 57.5% snare with a top speed of 1875m/s. The fourth drone is only 20% effective and the fifth only 10%. What exactly are they supposed to be used for? They are too slow to catch anything speed tanked and even if they did the snare is too little to hold them in range long enough to get a web module on them.
Additionally they take up 25m3 each and one of your active drones each.
This drone needs some love, It would be nice to see the stacking penalty come off these. Then five heavy webifier drones would snare for 83%, or a mid quality web equivalent, surely this isn't overpowered?
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Aleranie
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Posted - 2007.08.18 20:03:00 -
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Are you sure they are stacking nerfed? normal webbing isn't nerfed. They are simply applied in sequence.
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Endless Subversion
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Posted - 2007.08.18 21:18:00 -
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Normal webs ARE stacking nerfed. The second web is only working at 86.9% effectiveness. And yah, I'm sure heavy webifier drones are stacking penalized.
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Haffrage
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.08.19 03:15:00 -
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Edited by: Haffrage on 19/08/2007 03:15:41 Yeah, web drones are stacking nerfed. Had a friendly drop 14 web drones on me in a carrier, I was still zooming around at around 1.2 km/s from 4 km/s, I think. Maybe 500 m/s more or less than that...it's been a while.
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Alski
Gallente Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.19 07:34:00 -
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Originally by: Haffrage Edited by: Haffrage on 19/08/2007 03:15:41 Yeah, web drones are stacking nerfed. Had a friendly drop 14 web drones on me in a carrier, I was still zooming around at around 1.2 km/s from 4 km/s, I think. Maybe 500 m/s more or less than that...it's been a while.
Yup this is my findings as well, recentley had the chance to test them in actual combat where we had a group of carriers vs. a support fleet, not only did 8 heavy web drones not slow the target down beyond -50%, but they rareley even got within there activation range to even *start* webbing there target, so as well as there webbing effect not being strong enouth, i also think there activation range is too low.
The fact that they are not very fast even with drone navigation links fitted and maxed skills doesent help much either, but i'd be happy with that IF they were effective enouth to just catch the ships that were silly enouth to do a flyby on me, even if they couldent actuley catch fast ships at range.
As it stands the webber drones on my carrier really are nothing more than a little toy, they are fairley useless.
I'm guessing the reason for this is quite simple - they were put into the game at a time before such things as interceptors and interdictors, and now nano ships of all kinds are common, imho they definateley need to be looked at for a re-ballance - as it stands now a carrier load of light energy neut drones are more effective at stoping frigate class nano boats, pureley because they are fast enouth to actuley catch some fast-ish (but not very fast) targets. -
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Endless Subversion
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Posted - 2007.08.19 19:05:00 -
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Edited by: Endless Subversion on 19/08/2007 19:05:24 It gets worse too. All the following are before drone duribility upgrades, which means the difference is even more noticable as you skill that skill.
Heavy Stasis webifier drones have 225shield/150Armor/235structure for a total hp of 610.
Some comparisons:
Ogre I = 224/480/1184 = 1888 Ogre II = 269/576/1421 = 2266 Hammerhead II = 134/288/710 = 1132 Hobgoblin II = 67/144/355 = 566
In other words they have about the same total HP as light tech IIs but with the easy-to-shoot size of heavy drones. 5 guns on a vagabond with decent gunnery skills 1 volleys a webber drone...
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Gaogan
Gallente Solar Storm Sev3rance
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Posted - 2007.08.19 20:25:00 -
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/signed
They are too slow, too easily killed, and have too little effect, especially with the stacking penalty that is not supposed to be there ( description does not say it has one on webifiers ).
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Frances Ducoir
Bounty Hunter - Dark Legion Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.19 21:35:00 -
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just another "what is wrong with the drones" thread wich will get tousands of "/signed"s and will vanish without an answer in a few months in the deepths of the forums...
hey drone dev... (they said there is going to be a dev asigned to drone problems) are you there? please just say one word... we just want to know if drone problems are being adressed or not.
/rabble off
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Enigma Crysis
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Posted - 2007.08.21 14:26:00 -
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Edited by: Enigma Crysis on 21/08/2007 14:27:15 Edited by: Enigma Crysis on 21/08/2007 14:26:45 Drones need some luv anyway. Not only the webbis.
/signed
*Edit* typingerror
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aquontium
Gallente Fourth Circle
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Posted - 2007.08.22 17:45:00 -
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/signed. no use for anything in their current state apart from surprise value.
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Gaogan
Gallente Solar Storm Sev3rance
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Posted - 2007.08.25 02:26:00 -
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More signatures folks!
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