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Helison
Gallente Times of Ancar Pure.
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Posted - 2007.08.21 21:19:00 -
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Very bad decision.
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SiJira
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Posted - 2007.08.21 21:22:00 -
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Originally by: Zoopfury
Originally by: SiJira has anyone thought of using the trade channels in game more often and providing top notch services that dont need to be spammed to be used because not only are they needed but people spread word about it cause of the quality and cost?
You don't use the trade channels much do you???
You get an ISK selling advert every 5 seconds... and theres so many ppl in the channel spamming that you can't even read the text its scrolls so fast... Ans thats before the rush of ppl that can;t use the forums anymore!
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Jevus
Puget Sound's - Shadow - Triad
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Posted - 2007.08.21 21:23:00 -
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Edited by: Jevus on 21/08/2007 21:23:19 Lol @ Sijira
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Taurequis
Waylander 01
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Posted - 2007.08.21 21:28:00 -
[544]
Originally by: Ray McCormack If you want to shutdown ISD and close the forums then do it, I resent the fabrications in the OP.
I'm getting more angry about this the more the day goes on.
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Eclair J
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Posted - 2007.08.21 21:31:00 -
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This all smells of streamlining.
Sometimes that can be good, trimming the fat and improving things elsewhere. Other times it's bad and is a sign of desperation to fix some deeper problem.
Forum cutbacks, ISD layoffs and now effectively a "yay look at cribba, go there, get lost".
Tin foil hat time I think.
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Khan Dhu
Khan Dhu Research and Cloning
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Posted - 2007.08.21 21:31:00 -
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Though I doubt you're still reading by this point:
The contracts system needs an incredible amount of work before it's ready to completely replace the Sell Forums. If you're looking for a specific item, it's hard to trust contracts because depending on the keywords you use, new/different results will always come up.
You want to get rid of the sell forums? Here are two suggestions:
1) Right clicking on the "Variations" tab in the module info window pops up a "search for this item on contracts" option. This way a search will be run in the system for the items "tag." This will completely cull scamming entirely, and no matter what the seller types in the description, the item will come up in the results.
2) Add every item to the market so they can be bought and sold without having to rely on the contracts system.
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Mooogie
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Posted - 2007.08.21 21:32:00 -
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Awww no!! Just when I was thinking of actually using it to post a sell order of my own!!!
This is a sad surprise. I seriously hope you guys will reconsider this, but i sincerely thank Chribba for once again contributing to this community.
As for this forum nerf...
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Siddious
Serenity Of Lost Souls
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Posted - 2007.08.21 21:35:00 -
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Searching for items that you need is easy.. It is finding that item you thought you did not need. ------
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Terminus adacai
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.08.21 21:36:00 -
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Originally by: *****Monger Lol....the amazing thing is the eve market is built on supply and demand.
We the "CUSTOMERS" DEMAND you "CCP" SUPPLY us with our trade boards again.
I'm guessing there's no response cause even the GM's /ISD etc don't agree with it.
I predict the following will now occur in
Ship / Trade / Mineral / other Channels
Isk spam Isk spam Isk spam Isk spam Isk spam Isk spam Isk spam Isk spam WTS ship for xxxx Isk spam Isk spam Isk spam Isk spam Isk spam WTB Ship for xxxx Isk spam Isk spam Isk spam Isk spam Isk spam
Get the idea?
This has been going on for some time now and nothing is being done about it either. Trade is being nerfed big time here.
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Jobie Thickburger
Gallente Condottieri Industries
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Posted - 2007.08.21 21:36:00 -
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Originally by: Dr Aryandi Ok, I can see how an argument can be made for things like auctions and sell orders being replaced by contracts. I don't really have a problem with that although I did like browsing the sell order forum from time to time.
But how about services?
My research service gets around half of its business from the sell order forum post (the rest is word of mouth with a few from the Eon ad). I imagine other services are similar.
The contracts does not provide a suitable forum for me to advertise 'can research any BPO you like much faster than empire labs and without you needing to train skills'.
I can see reasoning behind closing down the sell forums/tradeforums/buy forums. But my biggest gripe is this one that was menioned early on. Many services are advertised on these forums, as well as hiring orders.
Perhaps you could open up a Services forum, For people to advertise Hiring Mercs, and Services offered?
CEO, Condottieri Industries
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Elmicker
The Phoenix Rising FreeFall Securities
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Posted - 2007.08.21 21:38:00 -
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Originally by: Jobie Thickburger Perhaps you could open up a Services forum, For people to advertise Hiring Mercs, and Services offered?
Or better yet, leave the sales forums alone!
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Ronny Hendriks
FireStar Inc FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.21 21:39:00 -
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Stupid choice is all i can say about this and i surely hope CCP reconsiders this decision. The current ingame system is not capable of that what is needed nor gives it the abilities the forum provides. please CCP for the love of EVE stop making decisions like this.. it saddens us all!
lots of respect to Chribba for his efforts! but i find it a shame CCP turns this road. especially editing the OP to include to new off-site forums chribba created. Chribba does A LOT for the EVE Community but Sell forums for ingame items should be done by CCP like it always has been! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Rangar
Gallente The X-Trading Company Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2007.08.21 21:39:00 -
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Edited by: Rangar on 21/08/2007 21:39:43 Hm, CCP is doing strange things since a while. About to close the game down? If you make more of such nonsense it won't take long until nobody plays anymore!
That damn contract system is just a bug and not a useful tool!
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Ummon Mu
Troublemakers
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Posted - 2007.08.21 21:41:00 -
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Originally by: Bhagat The more and more i look at this game; i find less reason to stay.
To counter one addiction, find another one ;)
Also, as already stated: Bad move.
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Khan Dhu
Khan Dhu Research and Cloning
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Posted - 2007.08.21 21:41:00 -
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Also - how are things like motherships going to be sold without the sell forums?
You can't DOCK the damned things without GM assistance, so you can't sell them on contracts.
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Ho Soki
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Posted - 2007.08.21 21:46:00 -
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Originally by: Rangar CCP is doing strange things since a while. About to close the game down? If you make more of such nonsense it won't take long until nobody plays anymore!
Absolutely agreeing!
CCP wake up!!
You are just going to destroy a large and healthy part of your playerbase! What was so bad with the forum that you need to shut it down?? It has so many valuable information! Also the contracts are completely inadequade for a wide range if things which are offered at the forums.
And then to tell us to **** off and go elsewhere! No problem, but we will take our money with us also and our accounts and then Eve will quickly go down the drain.
You know, you did a lot of bad stuff recently. And the server trouble and the disconnects and database issues are not helping to improve the mood of the players. Now you **** them off even more with closing a working and very liked feature... think!!
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DeODokktor
Caldari Dark Templars The Fonz Presidium
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Posted - 2007.08.21 21:46:00 -
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Originally by: Khan Dhu Also - how are things like motherships going to be sold without the sell forums?
You can't DOCK the damned things without GM assistance, so you can't sell them on contracts.
I think this is a seperate issue that needs it's own design change..
GM's wont help you trade a MoM/Titan anyhow.. I would LOVE to see a way for these to be traded, but I dont think this thread is the ideal place to argue for that.
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Sentinel Eeex
Caldari Lords Of Amber
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Posted - 2007.08.21 21:47:00 -
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Somehow I missed news today, and I was wondering why the hell was EVE *so* slow today. I assumed it was because of crash today, so something was still broken.
However, it seems I was wrong.
Bad move CCP, and it can be felt already.
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Macon Squaredealer
Squaredeal Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.08.21 21:48:00 -
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The fact that the Sell Order forum is wildly popular is proof that the contract system isn't doing the job you intended it to do very well. You know what's wrong with it, it's shortcomings have been posted throughout this thread. Why didn't you fix it before you took this action?
As for the real reason you are taking this action (which I won't get into here) I would close every single one of the the other forums down before I closed the Sell Order forum. Most of the other are nothing more than people shaking their e-peens at each other and I wouldn't miss them a bit. ___________________________________________ Watch for the Squaredeal Enterprises IPO in the coming months. |
SPIONKOP
Caldari Macabre Votum INVICTUS.
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Posted - 2007.08.21 21:52:00 -
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Its not April 1st is it?
Damn stupid idea.
Shame on you CCP. Space For Rent.
100mil ISK/Week.
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Xendie
Minmatar Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2007.08.21 21:54:00 -
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Absolutely stupid idea, no need to reiterate what everyone has already mentioned.
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Jaarlax
Ratty Corp PLC Confederation of Independent Corporations
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Posted - 2007.08.21 21:56:00 -
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617 posts, and as far as i can see 100% against the closure (618 including me).
i think it's safe to say the community doesnt want this, and now you've posted a ling to another forum for us to goto!! why, this is our game why cant we use our own forums for our own game??
contracts can NOT take the place of the trade forums!!
change your mind now please
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Becq Starforged
Minmatar Ship Construction Services Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.08.21 21:58:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Wrangler Update: A alternative to the closed EVE-Online trade forums has been opened by Chribba and can be found on his EVE-Live website in the forum section.
This is not an acceptable solution.
The trade forums acted as a useful trade tool and that functionality can't be matched by the contracts system. It's ridiculous that you would resolve this by 'outsourcing' that functionality.
-- Becq Starforged proprietor of Starforge Industries, a subsidiary of Minmatar Ship Construction Services
At Starforge Industries, the world of tomorrow is being blown apart today! |
MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2007.08.21 21:58:00 -
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get ready for petition of people sellig something off of the eve forums everyday. ----------------------------------- I'm working my way through college target CCP
Quote: Why didn't we use them 80 man-years to fix bugs?
Well, that's simple. We can't. These are visual ar |
NovaPod
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Posted - 2007.08.21 22:00:00 -
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Well they even stickied the the thread with the link to this ¦new forum¦ but refuse to reply here to their customers.
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Lothros Andastar
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.08.21 22:02:00 -
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Im sorry CCP, but yes this is a very very bad idea.
I implore that everyone sign this petition Here so CCP can see just how strongly people feel about this.
CCP please dont be afraid of overturning a decition! You wont lose respect in our eyes you'll gain it in unprecidented levels!!!!!!
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DRMALIKIA
United Technologies
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Posted - 2007.08.21 22:03:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Cool Dude
Update: A alternative to the closed EVE-Online trade forums has been opened by Chribba and can be found on his EVE-Live website in the forum section.
HA HA HA HA!!!!!!
Wow I am really fighting back the urge to punch my screen right now. I barely use the forums for trading and it ****es me off. 21 pages later and still no dev response besides the above added comment. What a joke!?
TRADER Career DEAD!
Services Career DEAD!
Forget the long post by Wrangler, just tell people to shove off CCP. Would save the long winded post and let everyone know how you really feel instead of just hinting at how you feel. Cut to the chase.
Nice defelection to Chibbra whomever so you do not have to do the work or maintain the responsibility.
If anyone missed it, EVE is getting more and more Corporate each and every day!!!!!! Pretty soon, they won't even need players to support the game!!!! It will just support itself and be a magical money generating machine!!!
DRMALIKIA /emote jumps off a bridge and hangs himself in protest.
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Tusko Hopkins
HUN Corp. HUN Reloaded
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Posted - 2007.08.21 22:06:00 -
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CCP, closing the trade forums is a bad idea. Limiting interpersonal communication is generally a bad idea, but doing this with a forum that has actually some use apart from chatting is an even worse one. The contract system does not substitute the forum.
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Tipsy
Gallente X-Factor Industries
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Posted - 2007.08.21 22:06:00 -
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I am surprised that CCP would decide upon a change of this magnitude without making any effort to consult the players in advance.
In March Oveur said: "We always say amongst ourselves that the moment the playerbase doesn't respond to changes, be that in an positive or negative way, will be the end. Apathy will be the death of us. "
The playerbase has responded in a negative way. You can pat yourselves on the back for provoking a strong response, or you ask yourselves why you have unnecessarily irritated the players by making an unpopular change without even giving a proper account of the reasoning behind it.
We care - for now. If you continue to demonstrate this level of detachment from the views of the players, it really will be the death of you.
-- Tipsy XFI Chief of Staff |
Matalino
Gallente Ki Tech Industries
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Posted - 2007.08.21 22:07:00 -
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Edited by: Matalino on 21/08/2007 22:07:52
Originally by: Taurequis I'm getting more angry about this the more the day goes on.
I feel the same way.
Originally by: NovaPod Well they even stickied the the thread with the link to this ¦new forum¦ but refuse to reply here to their customers.
This is what bothers me the most.
Originally by: Lothros Andastar CCP please dont be afraid of overturning a decition! You wont lose respect in our eyes you'll gain it in unprecidented levels!!!!!!
Agreed, they earned a lot of respect in my eyes when they deleyed the recycling nerf and other balancing adjustments to Rev 2.2 eariler this month due to comminuty feedback. I feel that this is an even bigger issue, and needs to be addresses much faster because it was implimented without consulting the comminity first.
Originally by: CCP Prism X P.S. If you think you're reading some information through the lines here, you're wrong. I'm actually just bored.
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