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Pistonbroke
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.08.26 16:26:00 -
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my 5 cents..... as a user of coverts and cloaking recons
put a 2 hour time-out on the cloak.... if it times-out after an couple of hours of inactivity then perhaps it will help to reduce people using the afk cloaker in system as a military tactic and reduced people reduced load on servers and that can't be a bad thing
Any cloaker checking his scanner, or moving from one place to another would be enough to keep the cloak live.
That way you could still pop to the shops or make the tea without risking discovery and death, but the lazy afk cloaker is at risk of waking up in the cloning bay.
BTW, Aaron, this is the single most stupid thing I've yet seen you post and thats saying something 
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Fswd
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Posted - 2007.08.26 16:50:00 -
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Oeh there is 1 other person in the system, if we undock now the sun goes nova...
/me onoes
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heheheh
Singularity.
Fallen Souls
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Posted - 2007.08.26 17:13:00 -
[63]
This needs a solution. why ?
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Vid Eeomeet
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Posted - 2007.08.26 17:46:00 -
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I kind of see the threat of a cloaked ship to be the same as a dude with his hand in his coat pocket, pointing it @ me. Either way, I'm running (or fighting, depending) when I see the gun. Personally, when I enter a 0.0 system I find cloaked ships are less of a concern to me than ones that don't have a cloak running.... a cloaked ship as stated in many previous posts can't warp, target, shoot or move fast enough to be a bump threat even. A non cloaked ship can warp, target, shoot and in most cases move "fast"..... It sounds to me that the people complaining about afk cloakers wouldn't stay and go about their business if a baddie was cloaked or not.
One last blurb from me..... take two identical ships piloted by two identical pilots; both are pirates, both want to kill you. One has a cloak on and running, the other has another gun or nos fitted instead. The cloaked pirate just so happens to be in the belt you are. At the same time he decloaks and starts his countdown to being able to target you; the non cloak pirate finishes warping in (for the sake of arguement both pirates are now at the same distance from you) ... and begins targeting you immediately. From a fight or flight perspective, if you're unprepaired when a guy warps in or decloaks, the end result is the same; run away or stay and fight. It's just easier for me to get away from a guy who hasn't locked me by the time I get into warp. =p
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ViolenTUK
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Posted - 2007.08.26 18:08:00 -
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If you want to take a risk finding a cloaked vessel then that is up to you. He is cloaked you arent. This is why he has a cloaking device. 
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Aaron
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Posted - 2007.08.27 00:55:00 -
[66]
 Originally by: Pistonbroke
BTW, Aaron, this is the single most stupid thing I've yet seen you post and thats saying something
your one of those yessodic-k nomad fools, your eternal hatred for me will never die will it
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Flinx Evenstar
Minmatar
Spartan Industries
Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2007.08.27 01:04:00 -
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How is it griefing
Ok, so there is a cloaked recon in local, you are ratting in your npc fitted BS. He decloaks and scrams you.
Now..here is the point, a cloaking recon does not do a lot of dps, so how is it so hard for you to warp your mates into the belt and gank him before he slowly chews his way through your tank.
The only threat they (or I  ) pose, is if you are afk ratting, running a macro, or have no idea how to coordinate a gang while you hold space 
Seriously...30 people in local, and not one comes to help the poor ratter..that is not a problem of cloaks, but a problem of communication
Fix afk ratters, and badly organised corps before you blame ONE cloaking recon for locking you down
Second thoughts...leave it as it is, one day they will work out how to operate as team
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Xeriuz
Caldari
The Puppet Masters.
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Posted - 2007.08.27 01:23:00 -
[68]
to op:
1. step away from the keyboard
2. open a window next to you.
3. jump out the window.
better yet just jump traight out the window
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Man1ac
Xenobytes
Stain Empire
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Posted - 2007.08.27 07:18:00 -
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Originally by: Aaron
I just had a few thoughts about the grief tactic where a player sits cloaked in their enemies system 24 hours per day.
I think it is an unfair tactic because it has been known to completly shut down a corps daily business...
Translation: I'm a chineese macro-farmer.
Please boost me. 
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Phyrr
Minmatar
Firing Squad
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.08.27 11:22:00 -
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You know ive never been griefed by a red in local sat in covert etc... Maybe its cause i undock and get on with it.
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Celeste Coeval
The Gosimer and Scarab
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Posted - 2007.08.27 11:24:00 -
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Edited by: Celeste Coeval on 27/08/2007 11:24:07
Originally by: Man1ac
Originally by: Aaron
I just had a few thoughts about the grief tactic where a player sits cloaked in their enemies system 24 hours per day.
I think it is an unfair tactic because it has been known to completly shut down a corps daily business...
Translation: I'm a chineese macro-farmer.
Please boost me.
Not all macros are chinese, western forum poster.
"If you are out to describe the truth, leave elegance to the tailor."
-Albert Einstein
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NUKUNNI TRADING
Amarr
Antares Frontier
The Fifth Race
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Posted - 2007.08.27 11:37:00 -
[72]
I like this OP
He takes stupid to brave new depths
Leave cloaks as they are so morons can't:
a) Macro
b) Behave like Null-Sec is Hi -Empire
c) Rat in their aligned to-pos carriers
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Ildryn
Reikoku
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.08.27 12:19:00 -
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I like this idea, CCP should really do it. And while they are at it come out with a new capital ship for Enterprising corporations called a Galaxy class ship...allow it to break into two parts to attack independent of each other...It will be the Next Generation of ships. Allow it to be armed with quantum torpedoes that can pass threw shields and hit the hull directly.
Give me a break....
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Sinder Ohm
Infinite Improbability Inc
Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2007.08.27 13:20:00 -
[74]
Originally by: Ildryn
I like this idea, CCP should really do it. And while they are at it come out with a new capital ship for Enterprising corporations called a Galaxy class ship...allow it to break into two parts to attack independent of each other...It will be the Next Generation of ships. Allow it to be armed with quantum torpedoes that can pass threw shields and hit the hull directly.
Give me a break....
OHH OOOHH me to me too can I get my own 7 of 9 then too?
Originally by: Karanth
Wimps play empire. Real men play in 0.0. Hardcore masochists live out in drone space.
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Aaron
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Posted - 2007.08.27 19:46:00 -
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/me prepares to jump out of the window (without opening it) in a fit of insane stupidity,
eve was built on stupid ideas, which is what makes this one a good idea
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Paschendale Krieg
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Posted - 2007.08.27 23:54:00 -
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Wow, I can't believe the ********ness of the OP. Seriously, if you're so bothered by griefers, mine or rat in groups. It's that simple, and it's been said millions of times before. Stop crying.
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seleka
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Posted - 2007.08.28 01:47:00 -
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Edited by: seleka on 28/08/2007 01:49:41
Originally by: Aaron
Your mistaken my friend, The defiant in DS9 cant fire when cloaked, I just think the name is pretty cool.
Afaik (!) in the later episodes it could fire while being cloaked as the federation had made a special agreement with the romulans to fight the Jem'Hadar and those other guys(the dominion).
Furthermore Dax was played by Terry Farrell and indeed some hot chick. If you meant Curzon on the other hand, well...
This didn't really contribute to this thread but meh.
Edit: Well. Maybe it really wasn't able to fire cloaked at anytime and that idea is only from that movie with the clingons? Damn, my trekkie days are 10 years gone. If i only could remember...
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Fanjita
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Posted - 2007.08.28 05:00:00 -
[78]
Another classic Aaron thread
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Tortun Nahme
Minmatar
Heimatar Services Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.08.28 05:21:00 -
[79]
if by classic you mean waste of bandwidth, you are correct
Why there should be a breathalyzer to login to Eve-Forums:
Quote:
Smacking my own alt in a nerf-thread while drunk, he was irritating a Hauler full of tech II n00bs, Oops.
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illbebored
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Posted - 2007.08.28 07:50:00 -
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Typical scenario:
30 Players of the same alliance in a system. A random "we are the 0.0 big boys" alliance.
1 Neutral/Hostile appears in local. He's known to have cloaking capabilities.
30 vs 1.
And somebody even dare to whine "stop the cloaking griefer"?
Switch to some other game, Aaron. Nobody will miss you.
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vipeer
Celestial Horizon Corp.
Valainaloce
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Posted - 2007.08.28 08:04:00 -
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Originally by: fire 59
Well, i certainly think they should brutally penalise cloaks on non cloak specced ships because everyone and thee dog seems to be using them. It's like the new safe pvp, before we had wcs, then the nano fad and now cloaks on everything fad.
someone suggested that non cloaked specced ships with a cloak get speed reduced to zero and are probeable by t2 probes, now that would be farkin sweet, especially for gettingthe farmers who seem to infest all areas of space these days 
Be careful what you wish for...
Hint: "Titans with cloaks"
Now im sure Molle will give you a proper whipping for suggesting his e-pride gets nerfed again
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Bolderine
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.08.28 08:23:00 -
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[Groan] Not another nerf cloaks thread 
Cloaks are doing exactly what they were designed to do. So you are scared of someone who has given up a weapon slot to fit a cloak? Scared of someone who is flying solo in a heavily defended area? WTF has Eve come to when one solo player can shut down a whole corp by sitting AFK cloaked? If your corp can't defend your territory against one player when they do decide to attack, you shouldn't even be in lowsec or 0.0
I know, let's nerf Eve so far that attacking anyone in gangs less than 200 with at leat two Titans is suicidal
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Callthetruth
Caldari
Drunken Ratbags Inc
New Eve Order
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Posted - 2007.08.28 08:33:00 -
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cloaks are also good they allow us to annoy and slow down 0.0 farmers. Just when they think u are sleeping boom - its the counter to the log off tactic
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Sha4d13
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Posted - 2007.08.28 08:47:00 -
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Of course, the ACTUAL threat of a cloaker in local, is generally the possibility that at some stage, when you aren't expecting it, he will set up a warp in point on you, maybe uncloak and scramble, as a gang of 20 roamers jumps in and warps to him.
But its part of the game. If someone wants to invest that sort of patience in a gank- then credit to them.
Removing local doesnt really work imo. It would presumably just kill off solo ratting completely, as it would be just too dangerous.
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Ethaet
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.08.28 08:56:00 -
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Originally by: Flinx Evenstar
How is it griefing
Ok, so there is a cloaked recon in local, you are ratting in your npc fitted BS. He decloaks and scrams you.
Now..here is the point, a cloaking recon does not do a lot of dps, so how is it so hard for you to warp your mates into the belt and gank him before he slowly chews his way through your tank.
The only threat they (or I ) pose, is if you are afk ratting, running a macro, or have no idea how to coordinate a gang while you hold space
Seriously...30 people in local, and not one comes to help the poor ratter..that is not a problem of cloaks, but a problem of communication
Fix afk ratters, and badly organised corps before you blame ONE cloaking recon for locking you down
Second thoughts...leave it as it is, one day they will work out how to operate as team
for the win.
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Aaron
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Posted - 2007.08.28 11:51:00 -
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Originally by: seleka
Edited by: seleka on 28/08/2007 01:49:41
Originally by: Aaron
Your mistaken my friend, The defiant in DS9 cant fire when cloaked, I just think the name is pretty cool.
Afaik (!) in the later episodes it could fire while being cloaked as the federation had made a special agreement with the romulans to fight the Jem'Hadar and those other guys(the dominion).
Furthermore Dax was played by Terry Farrell and indeed some hot chick. If you meant Curzon on the other hand, well...
This didn't really contribute to this thread but meh.
Edit: Well. Maybe it really wasn't able to fire cloaked at anytime and that idea is only from that movie with the clingons? Damn, my trekkie days are 10 years gone. If i only could remember...
The Defiant in DS9 never fired when cloaked, It did recieve an upgrade from the romulans because the Breen (Jam Hadar Allies) had energy dampening weapons that could drain any federation ships power.
The idea of cloaking when firing is from Star Trek VI The Undiscovered Country, The klingons had just had a serious accident on their planet and had asked the federation for assistance,
The Klingons and the Federation were close to signing a NAP, however, there were factions among the Klingons and the Federation that didnt agree with the NAP and had planned to assasinate the Federation leader, The leader of this faction was General Chang,
Kirk learns of the plot to assasinate the leader and goes to try and save the day, before he can stop the assasin he is attacked by General Chang in a cloaked klingon Warbird, that can fire when cloaked.
Kirk defeats this special ship by reconfiguring a few torpedoes to target the cloaked ships exhaust emmissions, then goes to kill the assasin and saves the day.
So to all those who think the idea of a cloaked ship is a stupid idea, think again, I certanly think it deserves more debate than simply telling me im stupid.
I can admit that it was a bit silly to think it was a solution to the grief tactic i mentioned earlier, But who cares its only a game right?
BTW, to all those who posted im stupid they will soon have me camping their systems in a cloaked ship for 6 months. 
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