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Desolacer
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Posted - 2007.08.26 17:57:00 -
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a. It makes people unregister b. It makes people tell other people to unregister.
CCP, today you have lost 6 people from your subscription list. Not because of how dynamic your game is, but because the people who like to play your game as a hobby are the victims of your own failure to make high sector a secure environment for players.
The more people get ganked in high sec. The more they'll quit.
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Riela Tanal
Caldari The Order of the Black Rose
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Posted - 2007.08.26 17:58:00 -
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Inability to understand that High Security space is not 100% safe does not constitute something that is CCPs problem. Riela Tanal "Never underestimate the element of surprise"
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William DeMeo
Gallente Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.08.26 17:59:00 -
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First. Also gief stuff.
Btw lol. Yarr |
William DeMeo
Gallente Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.08.26 18:00:00 -
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Originally by: Riela Tanal Inability to understand that High Security space is not 100% safe does not constitute something that is CCPs problem.
Damn you got lucky, I made my post like one second after this topic went up. Oh well, 2nd and 3nd and sorry for double post. Yarr |
Desolacer
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Posted - 2007.08.26 18:03:00 -
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blah blah all you want but it is CCP's problem because the more people pirate in high sec, probability of them quitting is 90% more.
every person lost is 14$ out of ccp's pocket.
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Kermis
Caldari The Ankou The Reckoning.
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Posted - 2007.08.26 18:08:00 -
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Originally by: Desolacer blah blah all you want but it is CCP's problem because the more people pirate in high sec, probability of them quitting is 90% more.
every person lost is 14$ out of ccp's pocket.
I suggest you look at a different game that's more suitable to your style of play. How about this?
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Zaqar
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Posted - 2007.08.26 18:08:00 -
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And for each person that leaves because they can't handle it, another joins because they like the risk. \o/
stop trying to ruin the game
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Toria Nynys
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.08.26 18:09:00 -
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Not that simple. Care to do the quantitative analysis on how many $ are lost if this turns into Hello Kitty Online?
Moreover, I don't believe that six people quit because you decided to move all the corp assets in an untanked T1 hauler AFK. And if they did, well, they probably weren't long for this game anyway.
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Kane Rizzel
NovaKane Incorporated Derek Knows Us
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Posted - 2007.08.26 18:09:00 -
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there's a difference between "High Security" and Totally Safe" Space. In high security there is consequences to certain actions, of course consequences for stupidity are a lot higher as you and your five buddies found out. There is no "Totally Safe" space in Eve, sure staying docked is slighlty safer but you can still get scammed.. If you don't want to interact with other players go play the Sims or something
CCP should really introduce a stupidity tax
Originally by: High Sierra note to self: dont ever say anything to anyone on the internet about anything ever again.
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Radar Rat
SPECTRE Ops
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Posted - 2007.08.26 18:10:00 -
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Originally by: Desolacer blah blah all you want but it is CCP's problem because the more people pirate in high sec, probability of them quitting is 90% more.
every person lost is 14$ out of ccp's pocket.
The whole point of eve's design is that it is a pvp game, no matter where you are, it's just a bit more complicated in hi-sec... CCP designed the game this way, it's always been this way, the problem isn't with CCP, its that you just don't understand the game.
Yes CCP have lost loads of subscribers over the years because of hi-sec piracy etc, but these people would have left at the first sign of trouble anyway, think about it, if you quit eve the first time you get ganked, how the hell did you expect to survive in eve anyway ?..
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iiOs
The Cry of Mankind
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Posted - 2007.08.26 18:10:00 -
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lol
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Plaetean
Murder-Death-Kill
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Posted - 2007.08.26 18:10:00 -
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If you don't like the way this game is, go away, don't try and change it. Being at risk everywhere in the game, even in high sec, is a fundamental principle of eve, and I don't see CCP selling it out any time soon.
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Desolacer
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Posted - 2007.08.26 18:17:00 -
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Dont give me priciples of the game and dont try to ruin it for others.
Who the heck gives YOU the right to ruin it for others buy blowing them up.
hippocrite much ?
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Plaetean
Murder-Death-Kill
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Posted - 2007.08.26 18:19:00 -
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Originally by: Desolacer Dont give me priciples of the game and dont try to ruin it for others.
Who the heck gives YOU the right to ruin it for others buy blowing them up.
hippocrite much ?
The game was this way from when the servers came up.
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Kermis
Caldari The Ankou The Reckoning.
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Posted - 2007.08.26 18:20:00 -
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Originally by: Desolacer Dont give me priciples of the game and dont try to ruin it for others.
Who the heck gives YOU the right to ruin it for others buy blowing them up.
hippocrite much ?
Concord ring a bell?
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Radar Rat
SPECTRE Ops
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Posted - 2007.08.26 18:21:00 -
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Originally by: Desolacer Dont give me priciples of the game and dont try to ruin it for others.
Who the heck gives YOU the right to ruin it for others buy blowing them up.
hippocrite much ?
ROFL.....
You are definately in the wrong game .. in fact in your case i think any multiplayer game would be the wrong game ....
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Tobias Sjodin
Ore Mongers R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.08.26 18:21:00 -
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Originally by: Desolacer a. It makes people unregister b. It makes people tell other people to unregister.
CCP, today you have lost 6 people from your subscription list. Not because of how dynamic your game is, but because the people who like to play your game as a hobby are the victims of your own failure to make high sector a secure environment for players.
The more people get ganked in high sec. The more they'll quit.
a) The silly notion that EVE is a game for players that want to play a "safe" game is very much misplaced.
b) And if those people are equally deluded, they are neither suited for this game.
If you think that CCP wants everyone there is playing their game, then you are mistaken. EVE is a type of game that is harsh ... by design. Those who cannot cope with this go play other games where failure has no real consequences.
I think EVE became a few notches better with you and your friends leaving.
- Recruitment open again-
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Zaqar
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Posted - 2007.08.26 18:30:00 -
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Originally by: Desolacer Who the heck gives YOU the right to ruin it for others buy blowing them up.
CCP
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Riela Tanal
Caldari The Order of the Black Rose
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Posted - 2007.08.26 18:30:00 -
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Originally by: Desolacer Dont give me priciples of the game and dont try to ruin it for others.
Who the heck gives YOU the right to ruin it for others buy blowing them up.
hippocrite much ?
Your not ruining anything that actually matters. There are simple precautions you can take to prevent high sec ganking. Logistics Support players protecting your hauler(why I trained Logistic Cruisers for Caldari). Yet did not, you assumed that you were 100% safe in High Sec and paid the price of that. I have transported over a hundred mil worth of corp assets when I move offices and I know that there is a risk to that. Train Transport Ship I and buy a Blockade Runner and you will better survive transporting in High Sec. Riela Tanal "Never underestimate the element of surprise"
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Hennry Fromer
Gallente radiated space gerbils
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Posted - 2007.08.26 18:32:00 -
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Originally by: Plaetean If you don't like the way this game is, go away, don't try and change it. Being at risk everywhere in the game, even in high sec, is a fundamental principle of eve, and I don't see CCP selling it out any time soon.
That would be again, they won't change it again like they did in the privateers nerf where they changed the wardec system because that alliance had as many wardecs running as they could afford.
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Desolacer
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Posted - 2007.08.26 18:36:00 -
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None of you seem to get the fact that some people cannot be in large corps and just want to be left alone and solo without disturbing anyone.
why cant you respect that persons wishes. go do your thing in low sec, why ruin a loners day who never hurts or harasses anyone. We just want to be left alone, this is a real time game. people who are okay with your style of gameplay can go to low sec. people who are not are in high sec.
Where is the persons fault here. You say they dont know how to play the game. This isnt about the game, this about you people who are scum for picking on people who have to work like **** for their lives and come back and play eve for a short while everyday.
NOT INTERESTED IN PVP.
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Baaldor
Caldari Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.08.26 18:41:00 -
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Edited by: Baaldor on 26/08/2007 18:42:15
Originally by: Desolacer Dont give me priciples of the game and dont try to ruin it for others.
Who the heck gives YOU the right to ruin it for others buy blowing them up.
hippocrite much ?
You sir don't know the principles of the game.
When I joined peak night was about between 3000 and 5800 peeps. And the piracy in Hi-Sec was much more brutal than it is now. Gee..we have how many peeps we have on now?
So get over your self, there is a lot more paying players playing this game that enjoy this enviroment than a few of you whiners. The games design was in place long before you decided to join and waste server space. It is what it is, and has always been this way. Learn to play the game or GTFO.
Oh yea can I have your stuff?
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AwsomeBill
Caldari The Shadow's Of Eve
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Posted - 2007.08.26 18:44:00 -
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If you have no intent of interacting with other players in any way why don't you go play Freelancer, it has exelent singleplayer mode.
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Riela Tanal
Caldari The Order of the Black Rose
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Posted - 2007.08.26 18:45:00 -
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The Problem with your logic, is that you want to be soloing in a multiplayer game. That is not possible, if you want to avoid pvp then do not make yourself a target. There are consequences to high sec ganking, though they are not as high but they are still there. Riela Tanal "Never underestimate the element of surprise"
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Zaqar
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Posted - 2007.08.26 18:48:00 -
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Originally by: Desolacer None of you seem to get the fact that some people cannot be in large corps and just want to be left alone and solo without disturbing anyone.
why cant you respect that persons wishes. go do your thing in low sec, why ruin a loners day who never hurts or harasses anyone. We just want to be left alone, this is a real time game. people who are okay with your style of gameplay can go to low sec. people who are not are in high sec.
Where is the persons fault here. You say they dont know how to play the game. This isnt about the game, this about you people who are scum for picking on people who have to work like **** for their lives and come back and play eve for a short while everyday.
NOT INTERESTED IN PVP.
Troll-sense is twitching now.
You can play solo. You just have to be smart.
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Desolacer
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Posted - 2007.08.26 18:49:00 -
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How about,
YOU dont know the dynamics of this game to "assume" this is my main. Dont give me age talk and how long you've been around. I gont give a flying **** about how flaky and scaly your ass is.
If anything, you pick on the people who work hard for their missions blow them up and call us we dont know how to play the game ? we're ******* flying about with billions worth of modules we earn solo playing with all our hopes for the game and never disturb others or talk to them.
Why be a jerk to us and not to the people who dont give a **** about other peoples efforts.
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Riela Tanal
Caldari The Order of the Black Rose
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Posted - 2007.08.26 18:54:00 -
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Edited by: Riela Tanal on 26/08/2007 18:57:34
Originally by: Desolacer
Why be a jerk to us and not to the people who dont give a **** about other peoples efforts.
Cause you choose a target based on the value of what they have not based on what they do. Theres nothing about pvp that makes you a jerk unless your griefing which blowing up a hauler in high sec is not griefing.
Riela Tanal "Never underestimate the element of surprise"
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Baaldor
Caldari Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.08.26 19:02:00 -
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Originally by: Desolacer
How about,
YOU dont know the dynamics of this game to "assume" this is my main. Dont give me age talk and how long you've been around. I gont give a flying **** about how flaky and scaly your ass is.
If anything, you pick on the people who work hard for their missions blow them up and call us we dont know how to play the game ? we're ******* flying about with billions worth of modules we earn solo playing with all our hopes for the game and never disturb others or talk to them.
Why be a jerk to us and not to the people who dont give a **** about other peoples efforts.
1- I never challanged how long you have been playing. I was making the point that this "Dynamic" of pirating in hi-sec has been around since the start and yet it grows..why is that? And for years players complain about the same thing and leave. Yet Eve still grows. 2- As for your posting in your Alt..hey Idont really care. You are just being a troll. 3- And if you have been playing this game as long as you are suggesting you should understand the "Dynamics". Or did they have an Ebay sale?
So why don't you stop being a troll and post in your main.
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Radar Rat
SPECTRE Ops
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Posted - 2007.08.26 19:11:00 -
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Originally by: Desolacer
How about,
YOU dont know the dynamics of this game to "assume" this is my main. Dont give me age talk and how long you've been around. I gont give a flying **** about how flaky and scaly your ass is.
If anything, you pick on the people who work hard for their missions blow them up and call us we dont know how to play the game ? we're ******* flying about with billions worth of modules we earn solo playing with all our hopes for the game and never disturb others or talk to them.
Why be a jerk to us and not to the people who dont give a **** about other peoples efforts.
People are trying to explain the game to you and all you are doing is being abusive in response, you are obviously a newbie or you would have been used to the pvp aspect of the game by now, some of the people replying to you have years of eve experiance and they are trying to help you, why not listen and learn instead of throwing abuse at them..
Even better get into a good corporation and get training and advice on how to defend yourself and avoid the scams, CCP aren't going to wreck the game for 200,000 subscribers just because you don't like pvp...
Theres a major differance between eve and other mmo's ..
other mmo's try to make you feel special, they tell you that you are a hero and attempt to make you feel good about yourself..., eve.. kicks you and beats you and asks you.. 'what makes you special, what makes you better than everyone else ?..' prove that you are better than other players..
Unlike other mmo's if you are successful in eve it's not because the game is holding your hand, it's because you've earned it, it's because you ARE better than others..
and the day CCP change that, is the day i quit..
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wictro
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Posted - 2007.08.26 19:14:00 -
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i feel your pain, and all that.
but, what in earth would you have done with the billions anyway?
If you only do solo NPC missions , a basic drake/raven will do. No need to ever by a new ship.
unless you get blown up by meanies.
I mean, that ISK is useless, if you don't spend it ever.
its like when your computer breaks up, you get a reason to upgrade.
in eve you can upgrade ships, attitudes, strategies, corps, friends and what not.
you can basically do all missions after 6 months or less of play.
the third "run these smokes to that system" level 1 mission in a row confirmed me to never ever to do missions again.
haven't regret that decision.
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Karlemgne
The Malevolent
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Posted - 2007.08.26 19:25:00 -
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Originally by: Desolacer a. It makes people unregister b. It makes people tell other people to unregister.
CCP, today you have lost 6 people from your subscription list. Not because of how dynamic your game is, but because the people who like to play your game as a hobby are the victims of your own failure to make high sector a secure environment for players.
The more people get ganked in high sec. The more they'll quit.
OMG, can I have your stuff?
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Praxis1452
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Posted - 2007.08.26 19:25:00 -
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multiplayer.
If you don't like what other people do and don't want to even talk to other people find a different game.
What even drew you to eve in the first place is what I'm wondering?
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Karlemgne
The Malevolent
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Posted - 2007.08.26 19:32:00 -
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Originally by: Desolacer Edited by: Desolacer on 26/08/2007 18:14:37 blah blah all you want but it is CCP's problem because the more people pirate in high sec, probability of them quitting is 90% more.
every person lost is 14$ out of ccp's pocket.
So its not an ingame thing you can boast about not being 100% secure about, its the reputation your games gonna get for
a. losing the people who love the game. b. turning the people who love the game against them. c. ruining friendships between the people who play the game irl.
And at one point, because you have such a "hardcore" game, you're going to realise, you're the one sitting at the desk wasting your life away taking away people's hard earned work, only to sell your character after a few years on ebay for a few 100$ which you havnt earned.
in other words, you're scum in game and you're scum irl.
yep, each and every ganker is scum irl. waa waa all you want.
You are failing to understand one fundamental issue, friend. If they "made" hi-sec the perfectly "safe" they'd lose far more subscribers who actually play this game because they enjoy things like empire wars, merc work, etc, etc, etc.
Perhaps this is just the wrong game for you. Its possible. There are plenty of good games out there with no, or optional pvp content. This game, by design has unrestricted pvp.
Let me lastly leave you with an EvE-O dev quote, Wrangler to be specific:
Quote: You're not supposed to feel like you're logging in to a happy, happy, fluffy, fluffy lala land filled with fun and adventures, thats what hello kitty online is for.
-Karlemgne
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Lithalnas
Amarr Hadean Drive Yards Archaean Cooperative
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Posted - 2007.08.26 19:35:00 -
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well like someone before me has said, High sec isnt 100% safe, its only 90% safe, if you run around and do something stupid like takeing that basic miner from that can, your going to get shot at.
Ganked in high sec isnt really a problem, infact, earlier today i was running around high sec with a freighter with 100m in pyerite in my hold, a battleship and some other stuff, not ganked yet.
And about a week ago i took an interceptor to Jita to pick up a t2 bpo, its not that bad. ------------- Hadean Drive Yards
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Karlemgne
The Malevolent
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Posted - 2007.08.26 19:39:00 -
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Originally by: Desolacer Dont give me priciples of the game and dont try to ruin it for others.
Who the heck gives YOU the right to ruin it for others buy blowing them up.
hippocrite much ?
Umm... again, if get ganked ruins EVE for you, this was never the game for you in the first place.
And to answer your question, the designers and developers of this game gave me the "right" to gank you anytime and anyplace that I am able.
In short, "Not a bug, by design."
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Grez
Minmatar Sybrite Inc.
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Posted - 2007.08.26 19:46:00 -
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You're not meant to be immune to being killed when in high-sec. It's just MORE secure than low sec.
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Terek Raon
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Posted - 2007.08.26 20:16:00 -
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Originally by: Grez There is no safe place in eve.
Afaik, u cant get killed if ur docked
i wonder why ppl play online games and then mock about the risk to loose ships, stuff, whatever, i mean thats what playing with ohter and fighting with other is all about, wheres the rush when u know that death hasnt any penalty?
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Desolacer
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Posted - 2007.08.26 20:21:00 -
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so do you just sit tight and say nothing when youve lost everything youve worked for ingame ?
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Radar Rat
SPECTRE Ops
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Posted - 2007.08.26 20:27:00 -
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Originally by: Desolacer Edited by: Desolacer on 26/08/2007 20:23:22 so do you just sit tight and say nothing when youve lost everything youve worked for ingame without even aggroing anyone or harassing anyone or doing anything wrong ?
Am I supposed to laugh that I lost months of hard nightless effort without any intention of pvping anyone.
Just leave high sec mission runners alone, they're not interetested.
Just out of interest, what exactly did you lose, in what system, and under what circumstances ?....
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Kane Rizzel
NovaKane Incorporated Derek Knows Us
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Posted - 2007.08.26 20:29:00 -
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Originally by: Radar Rat
Originally by: Desolacer Edited by: Desolacer on 26/08/2007 20:23:22 so do you just sit tight and say nothing when youve lost everything youve worked for ingame without even aggroing anyone or harassing anyone or doing anything wrong ?
Am I supposed to laugh that I lost months of hard nightless effort without any intention of pvping anyone.
Just leave high sec mission runners alone, they're not interetested.
Just out of interest, what exactly did you lose, in what system, and under what circumstances ?....
I'm gonna guess he got Lofty'd
Originally by: High Sierra note to self: dont ever say anything to anyone on the internet about anything ever again.
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Epise
Caldari Black Watch Syndicate Karnal Knowledge
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Posted - 2007.08.26 20:33:00 -
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Originally by: Desolacer Edited by: Desolacer on 26/08/2007 20:23:22 so do you just sit tight and say nothing when youve lost everything youve worked for ingame without even aggroing anyone or harassing anyone or doing anything wrong ?
Am I supposed to laugh that I lost months of hard nightless effort without any intention of pvping anyone.
Just leave high sec mission runners alone, they're not interetested.
No when you have lost everything you have ingame you start working to get it all back.......big vicious cycle.
Why not laugh.....I do every single time I get blown up.
As for leaving high-sec mission runners alone........hell no. You guys got the good stuff that needs to be liberated from your stingy hands.
Lastly......go whine somewhere else. My only regret is I didnt get the chance to shoot you down.......oh the hate mail and tells.....would have been music to my ears.
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Prilo Czato
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Posted - 2007.08.26 20:42:00 -
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a) its a game, get over it...
b) its a game, get over it...
c) If you want to be left alone and play the game your own way there are two things to do: - never undock and chat randomly with people in local, oh wait no you can`t, you want to be left alone... - Unsubscribe EvE, lock your door, unhook the telephone, find a deck of cards and play solitaire.
If you cannot play the game without accepting the way it works you might as well go away and leave those of us who want to play alone... (btw, can I have your stuff when you quit?)
d) its a game, get over it FFS!!!!!!!!!!
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Neal Cassady
Mutually Assured Distraction Molotov Coalition
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Posted - 2007.08.26 21:09:00 -
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i sort of think you may just be a flame-bait pirate alt, desolacer, but if you're not and all this is for real then you just put a huge smile on my face.
months of work lost? sweet
6 players quit? even better
congrats to the high sec gankers who did this, well done.
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Lana Bird
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Posted - 2007.08.26 21:11:00 -
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Originally by: Desolacer a. It makes people unregister b. It makes people tell other people to unregister.
CCP, today you have lost 6 people from your subscription list. Not because of how dynamic your game is, but because the people who like to play your game as a hobby are the victims of your own failure to make high sector a secure environment for players.
The more people get ganked in high sec. The more they'll quit.
Dont let the door hit you in the ass on your way out boy.
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Karlemgne
The Malevolent
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Posted - 2007.08.26 21:55:00 -
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Originally by: Desolacer Edited by: Desolacer on 26/08/2007 20:23:22 so do you just sit tight and say nothing when youve lost everything youve worked for ingame without even aggroing anyone or harassing anyone or doing anything wrong ?
Am I supposed to laugh that I lost months of hard nightless effort without any intention of pvping anyone.
Just leave high sec mission runners alone, they're not interetested.
In this game it does not matter what you intend or don't. There is no "pvp flag" to switch on and off. When you undock from a station, someone can shoot at you.
If they shoot you at a station or a gate in empire (low or hi-sec) they've got to tank sentry guns to do so. If they attack you in hi-sec, they do so knowing that they will lose their ship to concord.
They can, however, war dec your corp, then you are a free target anywhere.
So when choosing to engage your ship, the people who ganked you accepted the consequences.
For your part, you are playing a game, that you should KNOW allows for people to pvp you anywhere. You say you've been in game months? How could you have missed all the fighting, ganking, suiciding, etc that goes on everywhere in empire?
So why are you complaining now? You lost something valuable to you, in game? It happens to all of us. The best that you can do is minimize the risks to yourself, but from how upset you are its clear that you didn't do that.
Just suck it up, and get back to work. That's how this game works. If you are really incapable of doing that, then its really time to leave eve because what you are complaining about is not going to be changed in any meaningful way.
-Karlemgne
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DR STUMPY
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Posted - 2007.08.26 21:55:00 -
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As many people have said i can only repeat:
(1) Multiplayer game. (2) hi sec space, not "safe from everything" space. (3) Transport ships, not using autopilot and so on, your fault.
Im really interested to know what you lost, could you link us to the killmail or post edited highlights here for our viewing pleasure.
A final question, and this is just in case any CCP do get to reading this thread: When 0.0 is boring POS crap and low sec is an empty wasteland what is the logical conclusion?
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Phated1
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Posted - 2007.08.26 22:11:00 -
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Originally by: Radar Rat
Originally by: Desolacer Edited by: Desolacer on 26/08/2007 20:23:22 so do you just sit tight and say nothing when youve lost everything youve worked for ingame without even aggroing anyone or harassing anyone or doing anything wrong ?
Am I supposed to laugh that I lost months of hard nightless effort without any intention of pvping anyone.
Just leave high sec mission runners alone, they're not interetested.
Just out of interest, what exactly did you lose, in what system, and under what circumstances ?....
yes please tell...i want to hear this too
good story for the pirate stories section
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deathforge
The Accursed
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Posted - 2007.08.26 22:38:00 -
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Your stuff.... can I have it? Or... did it all get blown up?
And by the way, I rule you.
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Khorian
Gallente Excidium.
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Posted - 2007.08.26 23:15:00 -
[49]
That is Darwin at work. Only the strong survive. We don't want wussies here anyway. If EvE grew too big it probably would have to be streamlined due to all the carebear whining that would happen.
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Captian Internet
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Posted - 2007.08.26 23:24:00 -
[50]
This thread proves that no one DOES THE TUTORIAL
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Elles D
Caldari Sol Inc.
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Posted - 2007.08.26 23:31:00 -
[51]
Edited by: Elles D on 26/08/2007 23:30:59
Originally by: Desolacer Edited by: Desolacer on 26/08/2007 20:23:22 so do you just sit tight and say nothing when youve lost everything youve worked for ingame without even aggroing anyone or harassing anyone or doing anything wrong ?
Am I supposed to laugh that I lost months of hard nightless effort without any intention of pvping anyone.
Just leave high sec mission runners alone, they're not interetested.
How's aboooot... You go find a nice road and play in it?
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Sirus Griffing
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Posted - 2007.08.26 23:49:00 -
[52]
Originally by: Desolacer Edited by: Desolacer on 26/08/2007 20:23:22 so do you just sit tight and say nothing when youve lost everything youve worked for ingame without even aggroing anyone or harassing anyone or doing anything wrong ?
Am I supposed to laugh that I lost months of hard nightless effort without any intention of pvping anyone.
Just leave high sec mission runners alone, they're not interetested.
Get a girlfriend.
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Kaynard Stormwalker
Stormriders
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Posted - 2007.08.27 00:05:00 -
[53]
Originally by: Plaetean If you don't like the way this game is, go away, don't try and change it. Being at risk everywhere in the game, even in high sec, is a fundamental principle of eve, and I don't see CCP selling it out any time soon.
Nice sig, imo !
And yeah, I doubt we will run out of players..
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Harrana
The Scope
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Posted - 2007.08.27 00:08:00 -
[54]
I heartily endorse this thread for the lulz factor.
And as others before me have said, can i have your stu...wait, it all got ganked didn't it ---------- Harrana: Corpless Hobo
Status: Inactive in a Gutter
Condition: Inebriated
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Von Kretschmer
Minmatar Save our Souls
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Posted - 2007.08.27 00:17:00 -
[55]
OMG are u for real
WE are 505
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Arrow Jumpdrive
Minmatar Sicarri Covenant
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Posted - 2007.08.27 00:28:00 -
[56]
Desolacer:
Its not CCP's fault that your too dumb to realize you need to haul high end items in TANKED ships [ I use a Sleipnir ].
Its not CCP's fault that a player on their servers decided to commit a criminal act in "Secure" space, resulting in the loss of your work.
This game has CONSEQUENCES, each player can do as HE/SHE CHOOSES. CCP merely provides us with a lovely graphical game that comes with risk/consequence.
Wanna know something?, the more you "whine" the more we laugh at you. Twit.
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Laura Steel
Minmatar Independent Interspace Industiers Fallout Project
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Posted - 2007.08.27 00:31:00 -
[57]
How did you lose your ship in High-sec? ----
Darn exclamation mark! I have brown hair, green eyes and a nice tan :) |
Stakhanov
Katana's Edge
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Posted - 2007.08.27 00:35:00 -
[58]
Originally by: Zaqar
Originally by: Desolacer Who the heck gives YOU the right to ruin it for others buy blowing them up.
CCP
Best quote ever.
Originally by: Cipher7 If you manage to get baited, what's your skill, being a good victim?
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Nyck
Not Your Common Killers
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Posted - 2007.08.27 01:01:00 -
[59]
After reading this guy's posts, and seeing how upset he is, I firmly believe he didn't just lose isk.
This is the kind of reaction that happens when someone buys isk online, and then loses the stuff he bought with it.
I'd love to see the killmail. I'm betting there was stuff in there he couldn't possibly have afforded through honest work. ----------------------------------------------- Could someone tally how many times this topic has been beat to death? |
Arekhon
Mutually Assured Distraction Molotov Coalition
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Posted - 2007.08.27 01:25:00 -
[60]
Originally by: Desolacer
a. losing the people who love the game. b. turning the people who love the game against them. c. ruining friendships between the people who play the game irl.
And at one point, because you have such a "hardcore" game, you're going to realise, you're the one sitting at the desk wasting your life away taking away people's hard earned work, only to sell your character after a few years on ebay for a few 100$ which you havnt earned.
in other words, you're scum in game and you're scum irl.
yep, each and every ganker is scum irl. waa waa all you want.
LOL...OK
a. you obviously don't "love" the game cause you never learned the ins and outs....ie :risk b. you joined the game...don't like it leave. there will be others who enjoy pvp and the rush from risking hard earned ships, mods, etc. It is what makes the game unique compared to other MMO's....the loss is real c. I know who you are now!!!!LOL boohoo my RL friend killed me and I can't forgive him cause it is MORE than just a GAME
JUST \O/ you must be a spoiled brat in RL
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NCP S2
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Posted - 2007.08.27 01:41:00 -
[61]
*gets marshmellows out* mmm flamy!
For the record, I stopped reading halfway through the first page, but i love it all the same!
Marshmellows on the fire make this go bump!
-S2
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Le Skunk
Low Sec Liberators
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Posted - 2007.08.27 01:44:00 -
[62]
Edited by: Le Skunk on 27/08/2007 01:47:14
Originally by: Hennry Fromer
Originally by: Plaetean If you don't like the way this game is, go away, don't try and change it. Being at risk everywhere in the game, even in high sec, is a fundamental principle of eve, and I don't see CCP selling it out any time soon.
That would be again, they won't change it again like they did in the privateers nerf where they changed the wardec system because that alliance had as many wardecs running as they could afford.
Yup - If enough people whine on the forums and threaten the noob revenue stream CCP will bend. Its been proven with the Priv nerf amongst others.
CCP have this bizarre schizo policy where they back slap each other for having this hardcore game 'its not hello kitty online you know' and are happy for players to quit over the unannounced high sec ganking of people in noob corps/npc corps BUT giving a 24 hour notice (standard wardec run in period) with plenty of opportunity's for you to protect yourself and your assets (indeed plenty of opportunity to cause us losses/fight back) is somehow wrong.
So wrong it warranted CCP interference with this 'sandbox' in the first and only calculated and specifically targeted nerfing of an alliance in the game.
SKUNK
Originally by: Jeximo I also like how your cat only managed to hit the enter button when he/she jumped on your keyboard.
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redialer
Minmatar The African Contingency Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2007.08.27 01:51:00 -
[63]
Oh My Word mmm. lovely wine, v nice cheese
I hope devs are wearing the anti-wine T2 snitzle red1
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LegendaryTyr
Caldari Greenspring
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Posted - 2007.08.27 01:54:00 -
[64]
Edited by: LegendaryTyr on 27/08/2007 02:00:09
Originally by: Radar Rat
Other mmo's try to make you feel special, they tell you that you are a hero and attempt to make you feel good about yourself..., eve.. kicks you and beats you and asks you.. 'what makes you special, what makes you better than everyone else ?..' prove that you are better than other players..
Unlike other mmo's if you are successful in eve it's not because the game is holding your hand, it's because you've earned it, it's because you ARE better than others.
Radar Rat has it right on the money. Eve isn't some happy go-lucky, feel-good adventure for the whole family. It was created to be a harsh, fend-for-yourself-or-be-crushed, risk-vs.-reward, paranoia-inducing adrenaline rush. Get over it or stick to one player games. I reccomend the Elder Scroll series.
My alt has NEVER been pirated to anything NEAR being ruinious. It's never lost a ship. It's never been criminally flagged. Never been suicide attacked. Never been scammed. It has earned more money in game than I expect my main, LegendaryTyr (i.e. ME), to EVER earn. Playing my alt, I can also enjoy the game to a great extent, as pvp is not conducive to good study habits. Where is MY whining thread about this game being harsh? There aren't any. I play carefully, and still can enjoy the game on a character that won't ever have to pvp.
Edit: I am sure as HECK not an English major! Typos and grammar ftl!
Combat Your Wrath Cruise Missile hits ******* (Crow), doing 505.6 damage. |
Minmatar Alt
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.08.27 01:56:00 -
[65]
I like to sum up eve in a few phrases for him.
Survival of the fittest.
Only the strong shall live, the weak shall die.
Welcome to hell. (hope thats not considered inappropriate, if so sorry)
---My Unjacked Sig Space---Can't Touch This *Does Hammer Slide*--- A Veldspar dies every 2 minutes, Donate money to me to help fund my rightous cause to stop further Veldspar Massacres. |
Flinx Evenstar
Minmatar Spartan Industries Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2007.08.27 02:03:00 -
[66]
Originally by: Desolacer
CCP, today you have lost 6 people from your subscription list. The more people get ganked in high sec. The more they'll quit.
6...omg Think of the care bears please.
Is this game not Kitty Online, where we all hug each other and spread the love.
We lost 6 kitty's today...guys...6!! Thats like over 9000 Kitty points
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Elipsis
Gallente The Mission Guys
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Posted - 2007.08.27 02:14:00 -
[67]
Edited by: Elipsis on 27/08/2007 02:15:14 As much as I like the PvE aspect of the game, I'm starting to think* we can should have 4 systems (one per race) with security status of 1.1 that no one can be killed in... just to see how many people cluster into those systems and hide there.
*Disclaimer: I probably don't actually think this would be a good idea, but the thought amuses me so I thought I'd share. -...
CEO and Founder of the Mission Guys |
Sirrus Kwan
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Posted - 2007.08.27 02:18:00 -
[68]
Originally by: Desolacer
How about,
YOU dont know the dynamics of this game to "assume" this is my main. Dont give me age talk and how long you've been around. I gont give a flying **** about how flaky and scaly your ass is.
If anything, you pick on the people who work hard for their missions blow them up and call us we dont know how to play the game ? we're ******* flying about with billions worth of modules we earn solo playing with all our hopes for the game and never disturb others or talk to them.
Why be a jerk to us and not to the people who dont give a **** about other peoples efforts.
1. post with your main you gutless beotch! 2. NPC corp + jigh sec missions = usually safe 3. Dont do stupid things that will get ya killed in hi sec.. 4. not very good friends you got there. sounds like someone i know called URG THRASH!
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Devianation
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Posted - 2007.08.27 02:30:00 -
[69]
I personally agree with this guy.
Pirating in high sec needs to stop. I've had some of my friends unregister aswell because of it and I've been the victim of it myself.
If you people are saying he dosnt know how to play the game. Why dont you tell him how to avoid getting high sec ganked step by step instead of flaming him. Bit immature imo to harass someone whos lost everything.
Makes me wonder what kind of backgrounds you guys come from.
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Kahleena
W.L.A.M.O.
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Posted - 2007.08.27 02:34:00 -
[70]
can i have your stuff? Seriously, high sec space really is pretty safe... what did your 6 people do, loot those cans marked "free stuff" outside a station and sob into their pillows when they're rookie ships got blown up?
-K
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Kane Rizzel
NovaKane Incorporated Derek Knows Us
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Posted - 2007.08.27 02:43:00 -
[71]
Originally by: Devianation
Makes me wonder what kind of backgrounds you guys come from.
A very good one thank you very much. Learnt at an early age you need to work to achieve anything. Respect is earned and not given. Learnt discipline in the military. Work a 90 hour week, when I'm done with that I like to relax by killing people in an INTERNET SPACESHIPS GAME.
Don't let the Eve gate hit you on the way out
Have a nice day
Originally by: High Sierra note to self: dont ever say anything to anyone on the internet about anything ever again.
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Arekhon
Mutually Assured Distraction Molotov Coalition
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Posted - 2007.08.27 02:48:00 -
[72]
Originally by: Devianation I personally agree with this guy.
Pirating in high sec needs to stop. I've had some of my friends unregister aswell because of it and I've been the victim of it myself.
If you people are saying he dosnt know how to play the game. Why dont you tell him how to avoid getting high sec ganked step by step instead of flaming him. Bit immature imo to harass someone whos lost everything.
Makes me wonder what kind of backgrounds you guys come from.
bit immature to flame him..yes but not the way he came on here to flame all of "us gankers"
the bold part..is where we come from, meaning...countless people come to C&P to moan and complain about this and that when it almost always ends up sounding like it is coming from an immature child. His story bears close resemblence to this thread as I've linked before...if it is not him then I feel for him but I am NOT sorry..long ago before I ever pirated I was "highsec" pirated and lost 450mil in BPO's. Did it suck, yes. Did I lose almost every isk to my name at that point...yes(the BPO's were an isk investment to more isk) Instead of crying about it, especially to other players (the likes who "in general" caused it). I sucked it up because I "LIKE" the game (the term "love" is reserved for people imo) and I kept going. Your darn right I was sour, but that is what makes this game awsome. The risk vs. reward is real. If he does not know how to protect his assets then bad on him. If he has not played the game long enough to know how to protect his assets, then bad on him again for giving up! There are plenty of people who would help him if he would ask instead of "omg CCP you suxorz, I quit."
rant over.....
"Where are you guys going in your battleships?" "We are going to camp in Amamake; kill 500 carebears and 1 NPC" "Why are you gonna kill an NPC?" "See, nobody cares about the carebears!" [BEES] |
redialer
Minmatar The African Contingency Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2007.08.27 02:50:00 -
[73]
POST WITH YOUR MAIN red1
FREEDOM |
Desolacer
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Posted - 2007.08.27 03:40:00 -
[74]
This wasnt a 450 mil loss, I wouldnt complain if it were.
More in the regions of 10 billion. What would you guys know of someones solace. You dont know where I live and how hard I had to struggle to get what I wanted over the years given the worst of real life circumstances. The fact that someone in my situation even managed to play eve with every bit of drawback physically would be worth something to commend but you guys take pleasure in ******* someone over completely. And you laugh about it.
I failed myself and I failed my friend. And I hope each and every one of you lose what you work for irl and your friends who deserve better friends than each one of you who laugh at destroying other peoples work.
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redialer
Minmatar The African Contingency Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2007.08.27 03:42:00 -
[75]
your playing the wrong game - yarr!! red1
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Devianation
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Posted - 2007.08.27 03:43:00 -
[76]
Originally by: Kane Rizzel
Originally by: Devianation
Makes me wonder what kind of backgrounds you guys come from.
A very good one thank you very much. Learnt at an early age you need to work to achieve anything. Respect is earned and not given. Learnt discipline in the military. Work a 90 hour week, when I'm done with that I like to relax by killing people in an INTERNET SPACESHIPS GAME.
Don't let the Eve gate hit you on the way out
Have a nice day
Umm, I would say your military is pretty lax to let you have the time to play an online game. And 90 hours a week is nothing compared to a 10 year old kid in asia going to school.
Ego much ? *spits*
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Krows
Crimson Star Empire FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.27 03:49:00 -
[77]
Post with your mains and quit crying. Now how on Earth did you lose ten billion from one incident? The common phrase, "don't put all your eggs in one basket," comes to mind. I'm sorry you lost so much, I really am; that's coming from a dedicated can flipper scum bag.
But you should have been more careful. Honest to God, how do you lose so much in one go? Simple carelessness. You should have known better and you failed to take the time to haul in partitions rather than all at once; for that you lost everything to a very lucky pirate. Quit and take your whining elsewhere, or rebuild and perhaps think about sticking it back to the pirates the same way they got you. PvP really is invigorating, hi-sec or not.
One more thing, personal attacks are a great way to prove that you are incapable of reasoned argument or debate, do try harder.
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Ess Erbe
State War Academy
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Posted - 2007.08.27 03:51:00 -
[78]
Originally by: Devianation I personally agree with this guy.
Why?
Quote: Pirating in high sec needs to stop. I've had some of my friends unregister aswell because of it and I've been the victim of it myself.
Escort each other or fit ships accordingly.
How many people get shot in "High Security" cities in the real world every year?
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Arekhon
Mutually Assured Distraction Molotov Coalition
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Posted - 2007.08.27 03:57:00 -
[79]
Originally by: Desolacer This wasnt a 450 mil loss, I wouldnt complain if it were.
More in the regions of 10 billion. What would you guys know of someones solace. You dont know where I live and how hard I had to struggle to get what I wanted over the years given the worst of real life circumstances. The fact that someone in my situation even managed to play eve with every bit of drawback physically would be worth something to commend but you guys take pleasure in ******* someone over completely. And you laugh about it.
I failed myself and I failed my friend. And I hope each and every one of you lose what you work for irl and your friends who deserve better friends than each one of you who laugh at destroying other peoples work.
whoa dude...the way this post sounds I think you need to go talk to a counselor, and I am not poking fun. 450mil/10bil it is still only a game man. You don't see BoB quiting cause they lost like 75bil to corp theft do you. Stop feeling sorry for yourself, it happens to everyone. The way you are talking it would not matter if it wa 450mil or 10bil...you would still prolly fly off the deep end. Dude ..get drunk, wake up and start over...life goes on, you should too.
I am not for a minute trying to guess at your RL situation nor do I want to...all I am saying is that if this game holds that much sway over your waking life then you need to do some soul searching. If you want to talk about it out of game I would be happy to oblige. take it easy man...
"Where are you guys going in your battleships?" "We are going to camp in Amamake; kill 500 carebears and 1 NPC" "Why are you gonna kill an NPC?" "See, nobody cares about the carebears!" [BEES] |
Arekhon
Mutually Assured Distraction Molotov Coalition
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Posted - 2007.08.27 04:00:00 -
[80]
Originally by: Devianation
Originally by: Kane Rizzel
Originally by: Devianation
Makes me wonder what kind of backgrounds you guys come from.
A very good one thank you very much. Learnt at an early age you need to work to achieve anything. Respect is earned and not given. Learnt discipline in the military. Work a 90 hour week, when I'm done with that I like to relax by killing people in an INTERNET SPACESHIPS GAME.
Don't let the Eve gate hit you on the way out
Have a nice day
Umm, I would say your military is pretty lax to let you have the time to play an online game. And 90 hours a week is nothing compared to a 10 year old kid in asia going to school.
Ego much ? *spits*
carfeful Devianation....this kind of stuff will get your accounts banned. to both of these posts...EVE and RL don't mix well... "Where are you guys going in your battleships?" "We are going to camp in Amamake; kill 500 carebears and 1 NPC" "Why are you gonna kill an NPC?" "See, nobody cares about the carebears!" [BEES] |
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Houke
Caldari Crimson Star Empire FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.27 04:03:00 -
[81]
Originally by: Desolacer =You dont know where I live and how hard I had to struggle to get what I wanted over the years given the worst of real life circumstances. The fact that someone in my situation even managed to play eve with every bit of drawback physically would be worth something to commend but you guys take pleasure in ******* someone over completely. And you laugh about it. =
Wow, you overcame physical ailments to play EVE Online. We should totally respect you for that. Get over yourself. There are tons of unfortunate people out there that accomplish WAY more than playing EVE. People with no legs doing marathons. People with artificial legs actually RUNNING in races. Even people with mental and physical ailments do more with their life than say, "Gee, I overcame so much to play this video game. People need to know this without me telling them! Treat me different!"
If you were telling the truth (this IS the internet, after all) then you need to look back on your life's accomplishments, reflect some, and do something that is an actual overcoming of your physical whatever. I have no respect for someone who wants special treatment for being "different," because 99% of the time, they can do it for themselves. They just want the easy way.
In short, this is a video game. On the internet, no less. If you can't take selfish jerks who want to cause you harm, then go somewhere else. God knows I act like a jerk sometimes because it feels good to make someone feel bad. IN A GAME.
Citizen and soldier of the State.
Originally by: Kale LaDav *sigh* Merin you're such a Jew.
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Moe Zus
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Posted - 2007.08.27 04:19:00 -
[82]
Edited by: Moe Zus on 27/08/2007 04:22:40 lol at carebears
edit: Okay, here it goes.
First dry your tears. Secondly wipe up the blood dripping from in between your legs and go kill something.
That is all.
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Karlemgne
The Malevolent
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Posted - 2007.08.27 04:45:00 -
[83]
Originally by: Le Skunk Edited by: Le Skunk on 27/08/2007 01:47:14
Originally by: Hennry Fromer
Originally by: Plaetean If you don't like the way this game is, go away, don't try and change it. Being at risk everywhere in the game, even in high sec, is a fundamental principle of eve, and I don't see CCP selling it out any time soon.
That would be again, they won't change it again like they did in the privateers nerf where they changed the wardec system because that alliance had as many wardecs running as they could afford.
Yup - If enough people whine on the forums and threaten the noob revenue stream CCP will bend. Its been proven with the Priv nerf amongst others.
CCP have this bizarre schizo policy where they back slap each other for having this hardcore game 'its not hello kitty online you know' and are happy for players to quit over the unannounced high sec ganking of people in noob corps/npc corps BUT giving a 24 hour notice (standard wardec run in period) with plenty of opportunity's for you to protect yourself and your assets (indeed plenty of opportunity to cause us losses/fight back) is somehow wrong.
So wrong it warranted CCP interference with this 'sandbox' in the first and only calculated and specifically targeted nerfing of an alliance in the game.
SKUNK
I have absolutely no sympathy for privateers. Dismissing conspiracy theories about CCPs connection to BoB, we should be totally honest about the war-dec game mechanic and how it was intended to work.
It was, in all honesty, a tool for corporations and alliances to fight over in-game content. One corp didn't like another corps control over a hi-sec ice field? A war-dec would follow. A big 0.0 alliance goes to war in 0.0 over space, and wants to harass known unfriendly assets in empire, a war-dec would follow.
This game mechanic most certainly, from a development standpoint, was never intended to be used by a single alliance for the purposes of war-decing every major corporation and alliance in game, so that said alliance could permanently base a pirate operation in empire.
The moral of the story is Privateers were abusing a game mechanic, and that game mechanic was corrected at a later date by CCP, forcing Privateers to use it as it was intended. End of story.
-Karlemgne
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Tortun Nahme
Minmatar Heimatar Services Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.08.27 05:05:00 -
[84]
I may not be a pirate but...
WTF, this is the dumbest thread ever Why there should be a breathalyzer to login to Eve-Forums:
Quote: Smacking my own alt in a nerf-thread while drunk, he was irritating a Hauler full of tech II n00bs, Oops.
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manorthitszak
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2007.08.27 05:19:00 -
[85]
Originally by: Desolacer This wasnt a 450 mil loss, I wouldnt complain if it were.
More in the regions of 10 billion. What would you guys know of someones solace. You dont know where I live and how hard I had to struggle to get what I wanted over the years given the worst of real life circumstances. The fact that someone in my situation even managed to play eve with every bit of drawback physically would be worth something to commend but you guys take pleasure in ******* someone over completely. And you laugh about it.
I failed myself and I failed my friend. And I hope each and every one of you lose what you work for irl and your friends who deserve better friends than each one of you who laugh at destroying other peoples work.
You fail
This is a game, not real life.
It's fun to **** up other people, but sometimes it even happens to you too. I personally have lost maybe 70-80b(maybe more?) of isk during my playtime which is about 1 year and a half so shuush. ---
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Sashaa Lee
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Posted - 2007.08.27 05:27:00 -
[86]
Originally by: Desolacer a. It makes people unregister b. It makes people tell other people to unregister.
CCP, today you have lost 6 people from your subscription list. Not because of how dynamic your game is, but because the people who like to play your game as a hobby are the victims of your own failure to make high sector a secure environment for players.
The more people get ganked in high sec. The more they'll quit.
Two things.....
1: Just because the "police" are there does not mean someone can not come up and shoot you in the head. They simply respond to the shots fired....same as in real life
2: In case it hasn't been mentioned yet..... CAN I HAVE YOUR STUFF?
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Karlemgne
The Malevolent
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Posted - 2007.08.27 05:28:00 -
[87]
Originally by: Desolacer This wasnt a 450 mil loss, I wouldnt complain if it were.
More in the regions of 10 billion. What would you guys know of someones solace. You dont know where I live and how hard I had to struggle to get what I wanted over the years given the worst of real life circumstances. The fact that someone in my situation even managed to play eve with every bit of drawback physically would be worth something to commend but you guys take pleasure in ******* someone over completely. And you laugh about it.
I failed myself and I failed my friend. And I hope each and every one of you lose what you work for irl and your friends who deserve better friends than each one of you who laugh at destroying other peoples work.
Its a ******* game, dude. Get a grip. Eve-Online is most decidedly not real life, people's persona's are not necessarily reflected by their eve persona's. You say that people who pirate are scum in real life? Perhaps, just perhaps, we are people who enjoy the challenge of finding, holding, and killing ships piloted by real life people, instead of an AI.
Its challenging, its difficult, and its fun. As for your claim that you, "failed" yourself, and failed your friend, again, you need to maintain a healthy perspective, which you aren't doing.
Its not as if your "friend" won't be able to pay rent, or feed his family because you got his stuff blown up. Its all pixels and light, dude, pixels and light.
As for your claim that you've overcome something to "play" eve, I have very little sympathy. You are over a year old (in-game,) so whatever you "overcame" to play eve, you should have been keenly aware of what this game was like.
There are many MANY games out there where there is very little risk involved as far as your assets.
-Karl
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Jogvan
coracao ardente Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.08.27 05:40:00 -
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Originally by: Desolacer This wasnt a 450 mil loss, I wouldnt complain if it were.
More in the regions of 10 billion. What would you guys know of someones solace. You dont know where I live and how hard I had to struggle to get what I wanted over the years given the worst of real life circumstances. The fact that someone in my situation even managed to play eve with every bit of drawback physically would be worth something to commend but you guys take pleasure in ******* someone over completely. And you laugh about it.
I failed myself and I failed my friend. And I hope each and every one of you lose what you work for irl and your friends who deserve better friends than each one of you who laugh at destroying other peoples work.
I dont know what happened but just guessing you maybe got Lofty'd? (More info here).
High sec mission runners who don't do anything else but farming missions, earning isk, buying a Navy Raven and expensive faction mods to do the missions quicker to earn more isk. Only to buy even better faction mods and maybe officer mods again to do the missions even faster to make more isk but never really using it on what this game is meant to be. A PVP game. I couldn't care less if these people get killed and quit the game, they're just a waste of bandwidth imho. Go play WoW instead...
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Captian Internet
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Posted - 2007.08.27 05:51:00 -
[89]
Originally by: Jogvan
Originally by: Desolacer This wasnt a 450 mil loss, I wouldnt complain if it were.
More in the regions of 10 billion. What would you guys know of someones solace. You dont know where I live and how hard I had to struggle to get what I wanted over the years given the worst of real life circumstances. The fact that someone in my situation even managed to play eve with every bit of drawback physically would be worth something to commend but you guys take pleasure in ******* someone over completely. And you laugh about it.
I failed myself and I failed my friend. And I hope each and every one of you lose what you work for irl and your friends who deserve better friends than each one of you who laugh at destroying other peoples work.
I dont know what happened but just guessing you maybe got Lofty'd? (More info here).
High sec mission runners who don't do anything else but farming missions, earning isk, buying a Navy Raven and expensive faction mods to do the missions quicker to earn more isk. Only to buy even better faction mods and maybe officer mods again to do the missions even faster to make more isk but never really using it on what this game is meant to be. A PVP game. I couldn't care less if these people get killed and quit the game, they're just a waste of bandwidth imho. Go play WoW instead...
Perpetual Mission Devices do not apply to the laws of thermodynamics *snip* Your signature was removed for being inappropriate. Please email [email protected] with a link to your signature graphic if you have questions. -Rauth Kivaro ([email protected]) |
Shar'Tuk TheHated
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Posted - 2007.08.27 05:54:00 -
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C) its best those people unregister. You missed one
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Shar'Tuk TheHated
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Posted - 2007.08.27 05:56:00 -
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Oh I forgot something.. enjoy WoW! Can I have your stuff?!?
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Sashaa Lee
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Posted - 2007.08.27 07:04:00 -
[92]
Originally by: Shar'Tuk TheHated Oh I forgot something.. enjoy WoW! Can I have your stuff?!?
To late, I already asked......
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Prilo Czato
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Posted - 2007.08.27 07:56:00 -
[93]
Originally by: Desolacer This wasnt a 450 mil loss, I wouldnt complain if it were.
More in the regions of 10 billion. What would you guys know of someones solace. You dont know where I live and how hard I had to struggle to get what I wanted over the years given the worst of real life circumstances. The fact that someone in my situation even managed to play eve with every bit of drawback physically would be worth something to commend but you guys take pleasure in ******* someone over completely. And you laugh about it.
I failed myself and I failed my friend. And I hope each and every one of you lose what you work for irl and your friends who deserve better friends than each one of you who laugh at destroying other peoples work.
You seriously need to get over yourself. If losing however much ISK and modules you lost makes you so upset you need to start bashing at people IRL, YOU are the one in need of help. As I`ve previously stated, its a game, get over it!!!!!!
On a side note; do you still consider this to be a discussion, or has the fact that not a single poster wants to support you and cuddle you slipped your attention? The fact that you just can`t seem to understand this makes me think you most likely are a pirate alt having a good time, and for that I must commend you, this is highly entertaining reading...
Oh, and get over it!
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Sakura Nihil
Tabula Rasa Systems The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.08.27 09:07:00 -
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Edited by: Sakura Nihil on 27/08/2007 09:07:37
Originally by: Desolacer The more people get ganked in high sec. The more they'll quit.
Good.
I'd rather have 50k people online that understand the world is brutal and adapt to it, and expect them to be a long-term subscriber, rather than 100k people that are constantly whining about how something is too risky and cancel their account when anything goes wrong for them.
Less stressful as well .
PS: Its a game, get over yourself.
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Meatpupet
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Posted - 2007.08.27 09:11:00 -
[95]
Originally by: Zaqar
Originally by: Desolacer Who the heck gives YOU the right to ruin it for others buy blowing them up.
CCP
pwned
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Dhejay Centrix
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Posted - 2007.08.27 10:04:00 -
[96]
HOW did you lose 10bil to high sec pirates? If you are dumb enough to fight someone who is obviously baiting for agro in your faction/officer fitted mission running ubership then you deserve it to be brutally honest. Sorry but that's the way it is. If someone comes into a mission, gathers my loot and puts it into a can for me the last thing I would consider doing is taking it back. The more expensive your ship is the more likely it is to get killed by someone, probably us! How did you manage to gain 10bil anyway without understanding the game mechanics? Reckon you've lost a bit of RL cash there maybe???
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Irob Urore
Amarr Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2007.08.27 10:13:00 -
[97]
It sucks doesnt it, you work for your isk for months, maybe years in your case, then it gets blown away in a few seconds, maybe transporting goods through that one yellow system out of 30 green.
Unless theres others that have invested as much time as you, only too lose it all can really relate to your post, but seriously CCP should make it a double edge sword, if you get concorded you should get no insurance, "risk vs reward" and all that. It's only fair isnt it?
At the end of the day its a game and games are supposed to be fun, maybe ccp will get this through there heads one day. If people wanted to get kicked in the nuts, i guess thats what real life is for & not something they pay $15 a month to enjoy.
Good luck with whatever you do and remember real life is more important than any stupid game, dont let this get between you & your friend.
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Freddy Jnr
Racketeers
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Posted - 2007.08.27 10:17:00 -
[98]
Quote: Stop High Sector Pirating
No
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Irob Urore
Amarr Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2007.08.27 10:20:00 -
[99]
Originally by: Freddy Jnr
Quote: Stop High Sector Pirating
No
Why would a noobateer want to end a good thing. Vote yes on proposition 32!
*proposition 32 = no insurance for concord losses.
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Freddy Jnr
Racketeers
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Posted - 2007.08.27 10:26:00 -
[100]
Are you a bit of a stalker?
I think your little nickname for us was used for Privateers. So you're not even an original stalker!
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Irob Urore
Amarr Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2007.08.27 10:28:00 -
[101]
Originally by: Freddy Jnr Are you a bit of a stalker?
I think your little nickname for us was used for Privateers. So you're not even an original stalker!
who the hell would stalk you noobs. lol. not my fault you also post in the same forums as i do.
maybe your stalking me?
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Freddy Jnr
Racketeers
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Posted - 2007.08.27 10:29:00 -
[102]
Quote: who the hell would stalk you noobs.
uuuuuh YOU!
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Holfam Damily
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Posted - 2007.08.27 10:35:00 -
[103]
I fully sympathize with Desolacer. First, I agree there should be no pirating in high sec. space--at least none that pays the perps. The way police respond to criminal acts in Eve is unusual, in that it is all but instantaneous. In RL, getting shot at or killed rarely occurs with police presence b4 the whole thing is over. Police response in Eve is even more unusual in another way. In RL, should the police happen to be present while you were being shot or killed, your body and belongings certainly would not be left lying around to be plundered by anyone who felt like doing so. Your remains and your property would be protected. Since the police are on the scene, this should be so in Eve too--at least in .5 space and above.
I say leave pvp to those who wish to engage in it, and let them engage in it with one another in .4 and below space. No doubt there will be howls about this not being hello kitty on-line--the loudest howls, no doubt, from those who then wouldn't get to play "hello kitty" in the form of pvp in high sec versus those who don't wish to play and have not the skills to threaten the big, bad, nasty old pvp'ers who are so ready to inflict the gritty side of Eve on the ill-prepared. I bet many pvp'ers aren't so eager to take on ONLY others who have the same skills as themselves, and the same proclivities.
There will be much "WAH, WAH, WAH'ing," but it won't be from those who simply wish to have the police in the game function as police do in real life--to keep the criminals from freely practicing their desires among those not so inclined. I for one don't enjoy having things stolen from me, whether in RL or in a game. I enjoy it even less when I realize the loss occurred because another person, in RL somewhere, someone I don't know and have not provoked, has simply decided that what I have is something that person is entitled to take. That is a crimnal mentality. Whether in a game or in RL. I have no use for it in either place.
As for the consequences of this loss on Desolacer, I can only say I feel for him. None of the "ppl" who so casually dismiss the losses of another can know what those losses meant in RL. Maybe a promise needs to be broken that was made to a child, who will not understand. I don't know; but I do know it's easy to dismiss the pain of others. Sorry for your loss. Eve is full of bullshi* contradictions like the cops warping in on you, as if by magic, instantaneously, then not acting like cops at all. Maybe someday CCP will get it that they need to make places for pvp and those who wish to avoid that sort of thing. It isn't too much to ask--only those who wish to prey on others think that it is.
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Dhejay Centrix
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Posted - 2007.08.27 10:36:00 -
[104]
Edited by: Dhejay Centrix on 27/08/2007 10:42:43 Edited by: Dhejay Centrix on 27/08/2007 10:36:58
Originally by: Irob Urore Vote yes on proposition 32! *proposition 32 = no insurance for concord losses.[/quote ]
YES!!!!
Then it would be even funnier when someone gets themselves concorded trying to shoot at me... It never gets old, the comedy factor would be increased by several powers of 10 if I knew they'd just invalidated the insurance as well
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Dhejay Centrix
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Posted - 2007.08.27 10:42:00 -
[105]
Originally by: Holfam Damily
I say leave pvp to those who wish to engage in it,
Errrm, read the back of the box dude I think that's everyone who bought the game whether they know it or not. This is all about competing with the rest of the playerbase, however you want to do it. If you're not prepared for the tough life, don't try to live it. I have lost TONNES of stuff/isk to pirates in my time playing EvE, I've learned from my mistakes (most of them) and moved on. Why do people find this so hard to do? Surely if you crossed the road without looking and got run over, you'd start looking every time afterwards? Think people.
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The Hooch
Minmatar Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.27 11:17:00 -
[106]
Quote: a. losing the people who love the game.
People who love the game learn it
Please go play WoW on a kiddy server, you will be happier. (so will we)
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Shari Vegas
Minmatar Ctrl Alt Elites
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Posted - 2007.08.27 11:20:00 -
[107]
Originally by: Desolacer
Am I supposed to laugh that I lost months of hard nightless effort without any intention of pvping anyone.
No, that's ok.
I'll do it for you.
lawl@you
Quote: Just leave high sec mission runners alone, they're not interetested.
That's ok if you're not interested. We're interested in your fancypants loot. Therefor, we'll get it. Every time.
MOAR FAKTION L00T!!1!
Originally by: CCP Wrangler I have no clue.
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Raven Owa
Racketeers
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Posted - 2007.08.27 11:31:00 -
[108]
Quote: People who love the game learn it
Exactly, Read the warnings you get and dont take whats not yours.(Even if it was yours at some point).
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Desolacer
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Posted - 2007.08.27 11:42:00 -
[109]
Originally by: Holfam Damily I fully sympathize with Desolacer. First, I agree there should be no pirating in high sec. space--at least none that pays the perps. The way police respond to criminal acts in Eve is unusual, in that it is all but instantaneous. In RL, getting shot at or killed rarely occurs with police presence b4 the whole thing is over. Police response in Eve is even more unusual in another way. In RL, should the police happen to be present while you were being shot or killed, your body and belongings certainly would not be left lying around to be plundered by anyone who felt like doing so. Your remains and your property would be protected. Since the police are on the scene, this should be so in Eve too--at least in .5 space and above.
I say leave pvp to those who wish to engage in it, and let them engage in it with one another in .4 and below space. No doubt there will be howls about this not being hello kitty on-line--the loudest howls, no doubt, from those who then wouldn't get to play "hello kitty" in the form of pvp in high sec versus those who don't wish to play and have not the skills to threaten the big, bad, nasty old pvp'ers who are so ready to inflict the gritty side of Eve on the ill-prepared. I bet many pvp'ers aren't so eager to take on ONLY others who have the same skills as themselves, and the same proclivities.
There will be much "WAH, WAH, WAH'ing," but it won't be from those who simply wish to have the police in the game function as police do in real life--to keep the criminals from freely practicing their desires among those not so inclined. I for one don't enjoy having things stolen from me, whether in RL or in a game. I enjoy it even less when I realize the loss occurred because another person, in RL somewhere, someone I don't know and have not provoked, has simply decided that what I have is something that person is entitled to take. That is a crimnal mentality. Whether in a game or in RL. I have no use for it in either place.
As for the consequences of this loss on Desolacer, I can only say I feel for him. None of the "ppl" who so casually dismiss the losses of another can know what those losses meant in RL. Maybe a promise needs to be broken that was made to a child, who will not understand. I don't know; but I do know it's easy to dismiss the pain of others. Sorry for your loss. Eve is full of bullshi* contradictions like the cops warping in on you, as if by magic, instantaneously, then not acting like cops at all. Maybe someday CCP will get it that they need to make places for pvp and those who wish to avoid that sort of thing. It isn't too much to ask--only those who wish to prey on others think that it is.
Thanks man, nicest post in this entire thread.
I wouldnt complain about this if it were a normal day because ive lost millions before but this particular incident....
If it were just my own thing it wouldnt have matterred to me, but I genuinely regret this incident because I was in the process of getting a gift for a very close friend for private reasons. If I could have even got the thing to him before being ganked I still wouldnt mind.
But.. I dont know what to say..you guys need to realise some people need to be left alone, life already sucks for them, let them have their little space on a game they play as a hobby... Especially the ones who always help others and never harass others in real life or ingame.
If you push and hurt them, obviously they're going to react and end of the day, you leave them with nothing, they have no corp, they have no way to pay for the game and they have no time. You've basically ended the game for those people who'd always help you if you needed any.
Anyway, theres nothing more I can say. Whats done is done. Thanks for not understanding those few people who who'd understand you and good luck supporting the ones who'll screw you over in real life if they had the chance to.
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Dhejay Centrix
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Posted - 2007.08.27 11:51:00 -
[110]
Originally by: Desolacer
But.. I dont know what to say..you guys need to realise some people need to be left alone, life already sucks for them, let them have their little space on a game they play as a hobby... Especially the ones who always help others and never harass others in real life or ingame.
These people you speak of are clearly playing the wrong game. EvE is not for them. If you want to be left alone, don't play a massively multiplayer game. Don't moan to CCP for constantly recurring EBKAC issues (Error Between Keyboard and Chair).
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Ancy Denaries
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.08.27 11:57:00 -
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Edited by: Ancy Denaries on 27/08/2007 11:59:35 Oh boy. I'm not sure wether I should laugh or cry at this all.
Okay, first off:
Quote: NOT INTERESTED IN PVP
Okay. Go cancel your account. Now. Still here? Get going already! If you are not interested in PvP at all, why on earth are you paying and playing a game who's primary focus is PvP in different forms? Either thru ship to ship combat, or by marketing and battling over prices, or why not corp politics? Seriously mate, stop wanting to change the game to suit YOUR needs, and understand the underlying basics and visions of the game. You don't like it? Boohoo, WoW is in that direction. We play games because we like them and because we enjoy it. If you don't, why are you here?
Secondly: You lost 10 bil to some high sec pirate? That makes you either
- Clumbsy
- Stupid
- Careless
- All of the above
Hauling valuable stuff thru ANY space takes caution and lots of it. It takes a dedicated hauling vessel, preferrably a blockade runner that can take a pounding and escape gate camps (which, for your information, do not exist in high sec space). It also takes a brain. Said brain is supposed to tell the pilot that shipping ALL of that 10 bil loot/stuff in ONE run in ONE ship is ASKING for trouble. Someone scans you and then you're dead. That's what piracy is all about. Don't want it to get stolen? Setup numerous courier contracts, or start shipping it yourself, one bit at a time so that if you loose anything, it's only a fraction of the total.
Man, I could go on by calling you ******, moron or plain imbecill, but I won't. I made some assumptions above, I agree. I stated that one must either be clumbsy or careless to loose that much stuff in one go. Now, if you're neither, I wonder how you lost that much anyway.
And seeing as you actually did have 10 bil stuff, that rules out that you are a newb, which means you have been playing this game for a long long time. You KNEW the risks. You are constantly reminded of it by simply playing the game and yet you ignored all the warnings and WHAM. Pirates hit you. This game is about risk. There is real risk no matter where you are, either from pure pirates to scammers. Now, honestly, if you can't take that, then you are in the wrong game my friend. There's simply nothing you can say that will defend or support your claim, since the responsibility to maintain your own security is yours and yours alone. Not CONCORD. They're there to punish the perpetrators. Not protect you.
And as you said, some people have a rough life. Yeah, true. Been there, done that, got the bleeding scars, but you know what? Cutting your wrist isn't clever when you are hurting inside. In this case, the cutting is playing such a risky game as EVE. If one is already unstable and can't handle some setback, then why risk it? Go play something where it isn't as risky.
Now, in closing I wanna say: Do not attempt to ruin the game for the rest of us. We LOVE, and I emphasize, LOVE the risk in EVE. Sure we loose some ships and stuff, but we rebuild. Quit trying to turn this game into a carebear simulation. There are already enough such games.
Cheers out!
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Eftim S'Jet
Racketeers
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Posted - 2007.08.27 11:58:00 -
[112]
First off, why aren't you giving any details on how you got ganked, who did it etc? You don't have to post the killmail...
Second, high sec piracy isn't as easy as "look - mission runner, press F1-F8!". You'd have to be completely careless or down right stupid. When carrying such valuable equipment as you menton why you wouddl be like that ESPECIALLY after playing for as long as you say is beyond me. You made a HUGE mistake and now instead of learning from it you whine.
EVE IS PVP. I bet that during the early design meetings CCP found the name of the game by replacing the P's with all the letters of the alphabet until they got one that sounded good.
So either cope with it or go away. You got a hell of a lot of nerve coming here asking to chage the game that so many people love to log on every day. Money on your head? Chop! |
Krasnij Okjabre
Caldari Havoc Inc
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Posted - 2007.08.27 12:08:00 -
[113]
Originally by: Elipsis Edited by: Elipsis on 27/08/2007 02:15:14 As much as I like the PvE aspect of the game, I'm starting to think* we can should have 4 systems (one per race) with security status of 1.1 that no one can be killed in... just to see how many people cluster into those systems and hide there.
*Disclaimer: I probably don't actually think this would be a good idea, but the thought amuses me so I thought I'd share.
I think Jita would look empty by comparison. It would be interesting though
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Nama Saya
Chickens with an Attitude
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Posted - 2007.08.27 12:14:00 -
[114]
Originally by: Desolacer a. It makes people unregister b. It makes people tell other people to unregister.
CCP, today you have lost 6 people from your subscription list. Not because of how dynamic your game is, but because the people who like to play your game as a hobby are the victims of your own failure to make high sector a secure environment for players.
The more people get ganked in high sec. The more they'll quit.
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Bishman82
Racketeers
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Posted - 2007.08.27 12:19:00 -
[115]
Originally by: Freddy Jnr Are you a bit of a stalker?
I think your little nickname for us was used for Privateers. So you're not even an original stalker!
Freddy, once the word got out about our corp being full of 13 year old kids, we attracted quite a number of stalkers.
Not mentioning any names but there are about 3 or maybe 4 repeat offenders, they pop up in every single thread our corp posts in. Why wont they just leave us alone
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Sorted
High Sec Liberators
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Posted - 2007.08.27 12:27:00 -
[116]
Name and Shame (we'll we will all pat them on the back, but do it anyways)
Go - on tell us. Who made you cry?
(/me crosses fingers and hopes it was someone I know)
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Freddy Jnr
Racketeers
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Posted - 2007.08.27 12:32:00 -
[117]
Originally by: Bishman82
Originally by: Freddy Jnr Are you a bit of a stalker?
I think your little nickname for us was used for Privateers. So you're not even an original stalker!
Freddy, once the word got out about our corp being full of 13 year old kids, we attracted quite a number of stalkers.
Not mentioning any names but there are about 3 or maybe 4 repeat offenders, they pop up in every single thread our corp posts in. Why wont they just leave us alone
I don't think I even want to comment on those implications!
Originally by: Sorted Name and Shame (we'll we will all pat them on the back, but do it anyways)
Go - on tell us. Who made you cry?
(/me crosses fingers and hopes it was someone I know)
GO ON! Tell us.........
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Fellonie
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Posted - 2007.08.27 12:39:00 -
[118]
I think CCP should make high sec alittle harder to pirate in. Too many people are able to get killed and get away with it in high sec. But honestly, being killed is a part of the game. So deal with it. If you want to do something with no pvp then i would say stay in high sec. But that would mean that CCP would have to ***** down on making high sec alittle more harsh towards those who try to kill...
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Antraxx
Caldari Deviance Inc Karnal Knowledge
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Posted - 2007.08.27 12:47:00 -
[119]
Man ...If this is for real..Then you sir need a serious attitude adjustment.. How the hell you have the front to assume you should be left alone because of RL/Health problems? You think no one else has problems perhaps worse than your own? Difference is they play so they can forget those issues,Not so they can bleat on the forums about them and be treated "Differently"... In Eve EVERYONE is equal-And thats exactly as it should be. The game is 100% PvP-Deal with it. Saying that everyone who attacks innocents is "RL Scumbags" etc is such an ignorant statement im starting to believe this is just Alt BS post.. If it isnt,then get a clue pls..You have no idea what sort of people you are playing with/against. Some of the most honest and upstanding people i know play the "Evil" role in Eve. Why?-Because it's just a damn game... And to be honest ...Its soooo funny at times to see idiot's like yourself whining away on a forum.. ----------
---------- Deviance Inc. is recruiting!-Eve mail me :)
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Cpt Branko
The Bloody Red
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Posted - 2007.08.27 13:17:00 -
[120]
Originally by: Ancy Denaries ...right stuff...
You summed it up beautifully.
You know, we all lose things in EvE, ships, ISK, and so on. Pirates probably more then anyone else. Taking risks and eventually losing is a part of the game. It's just a point of making more then you lose. It's not something to cry about.
I really don't know why a carebear who is not interested in PvP would want 10 bil, anyway. I mean, you only need one CNR with faction/officer fittings to farm missions
ISK is predominantly for funding PvP or investing into making more ISK. Most ISK ends back up in carebear or industrialist hands, anyway, with them producing the replacement ships, rigs, ammo and fittings we fight in. So each of your mission runners IS interested in PvP, because that's what makes the economy tick. Imagine the massive market crash if all the pirates went away for a week.
Hell, maybe we should go on strike for a couple of weeks just to show them carebears
Originally by: Tsanse Kinske The second you start equating time spent playing a game with lost time and money is the second you need to ask yourself "Why am I playing?". Seriously |
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Cpt Branko
The Bloody Red
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Posted - 2007.08.27 13:22:00 -
[121]
Edited by: Cpt Branko on 27/08/2007 13:23:14
Originally by: Holfam Damily In RL, getting shot at or killed rarely occurs with police presence b4 the whole thing is over... ...should the police happen to be present while you were being shot or killed, your body and belongings certainly would not be left lying around to be plundered by anyone who felt like doing so. Your remains and your property would be protected. Since the police are on the scene, this should be so in Eve too--at least in .5 space and above.
Let's make them NOT show up instantenously and not instapop/jam you (as it's not realistic. make them strong and have superior numbers but not insta-pwn), and then they can secure the loot for all I care.
Oh, no, wait, you wouldn't want that, now, because you could gank with even less ships?
You just want to make high-sec safer. It's safe enough.
Originally by: Tsanse Kinske The second you start equating time spent playing a game with lost time and money is the second you need to ask yourself "Why am I playing?". Seriously |
Anton March
Mortis Angelus
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Posted - 2007.08.27 13:23:00 -
[122]
To quote the FAQ:
http://www.eve-online.com/faq/faq_12.asp
"Players should note that EVE emphasizes player interaction, including non-consensual combat between players."
If you can't handle it, you're playing the wrong game. How much more do you want than a statement from the creators of the game saying that the game emphasized non-consensual PvP?
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Ancy Denaries
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.08.27 13:27:00 -
[123]
Originally by: Cpt Branko
Originally by: Ancy Denaries ...right stuff...
Truly awesome summary of my post ;)
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heheheh
Singularity. Fallen Souls
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Posted - 2007.08.27 13:30:00 -
[124]
OP is just another (crappy) victim. the only people that unregister either because they are ganked or are told a friend has been ganked should not be playing this game anyway. ITS A PVP GAME. written in caps to help you understand a tad more.
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Steve Hawkings
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Posted - 2007.08.27 13:31:00 -
[125]
Originally by: Desolacer Edited by: Desolacer on 26/08/2007 18:14:37 blah blah all you want but it is CCP's problem because the more people pirate in high sec, probability of them quitting is 90% more.
every person lost is 14$ out of ccp's pocket.
So its not an ingame thing you can boast about not being 100% secure about, its the reputation your games gonna get for
a. losing the people who love the game. b. turning the people who love the game against them. c. ruining friendships between the people who play the game irl.
And at one point, because you have such a "hardcore" game, you're going to realise, you're the one sitting at the desk wasting your life away taking away people's hard earned work, only to sell your character after a few years on ebay for a few 100$ which you havnt earned.
in other words, you're scum in game and you're scum irl.
yep, each and every ganker is scum irl. waa waa all you want.
If you leave for this reason you dont love the game you ******.
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Krasnij Okjabre
Caldari Havoc Inc
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Posted - 2007.08.27 13:39:00 -
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This Light is faster than sound... this is why some people appear bright until you speak to them... |
Nyck
Not Your Common Killers
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Posted - 2007.08.27 13:50:00 -
[127]
Originally by: Holfam Damily I fully sympathize with Desolacer. First, I agree there should be no pirating in high sec. space--at least none that pays the perps. The way police respond to criminal acts in Eve is unusual, in that it is all but instantaneous. In RL, getting shot at or killed rarely occurs with police presence b4 the whole thing is over. Police response in Eve is even more unusual in another way. In RL, should the police happen to be present while you were being shot or killed, your body and belongings certainly would not be left lying around to be plundered by anyone who felt like doing so. Your remains and your property would be protected. Since the police are on the scene, this should be so in Eve too--at least in .5 space and above.
I say leave pvp to those who wish to engage in it, and let them engage in it with one another in .4 and below space. No doubt there will be howls about this not being hello kitty on-line--the loudest howls, no doubt, from those who then wouldn't get to play "hello kitty" in the form of pvp in high sec versus those who don't wish to play and have not the skills to threaten the big, bad, nasty old pvp'ers who are so ready to inflict the gritty side of Eve on the ill-prepared. I bet many pvp'ers aren't so eager to take on ONLY others who have the same skills as themselves, and the same proclivities.
There will be much "WAH, WAH, WAH'ing," but it won't be from those who simply wish to have the police in the game function as police do in real life--to keep the criminals from freely practicing their desires among those not so inclined. I for one don't enjoy having things stolen from me, whether in RL or in a game. I enjoy it even less when I realize the loss occurred because another person, in RL somewhere, someone I don't know and have not provoked, has simply decided that what I have is something that person is entitled to take. That is a crimnal mentality. Whether in a game or in RL. I have no use for it in either place.
As for the consequences of this loss on Desolacer, I can only say I feel for him. None of the "ppl" who so casually dismiss the losses of another can know what those losses meant in RL. Maybe a promise needs to be broken that was made to a child, who will not understand. I don't know; but I do know it's easy to dismiss the pain of others. Sorry for your loss. Eve is full of bullshi* contradictions like the cops warping in on you, as if by magic, instantaneously, then not acting like cops at all. Maybe someday CCP will get it that they need to make places for pvp and those who wish to avoid that sort of thing. It isn't too much to ask--only those who wish to prey on others think that it is.
First, this is a PVP game, through and through. CCP wants pirating in High Sec. Deal with it.
Second, you're right. Yes, I said it. BUT WAIT! What are you right about?
The way Police respond in Eve IS Unusual. You know why? BECAUSE THIS IS A FREAKING SPACE GAME!
If real life police showed up and acted in real life ways when you get PVP'd, you know how they would respond?
They'd start by losing EVERY FREAKING FLUID IN THEIR BODIES! Because they are in SPACE!
As for leaving PVP to those who wish for it: It has been said many times, by the devs themselves.
When you log into Eve, you are accepting that you may be forced into non-consentual pvp. Do you know what that means?
Just by LOGGING IN, You are AGREEING to accept the risks of PVP. Therefore, you obviously WANT to PVP.
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Kuranta
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Posted - 2007.08.27 13:58:00 -
[128]
Says ist all:
Quote by Desolacer:
Quote: FOR THE HORDE
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Spitzerr
Racketeers
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Posted - 2007.08.27 14:00:00 -
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Originally by: Desolacer a. It makes people unregister b. It makes people tell other people to unregister.
CCP, today you have lost 6 people from your subscription list. Not because of how dynamic your game is, but because the people who like to play your game as a hobby are the victims of your own failure to make high sector a secure environment for players.
The more people get ganked in high sec. The more they'll quit.
Join a band of brothers corp, then you will have CCP on you're side.
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Dark Flare
Caldari Corpus PCG The State
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Posted - 2007.08.27 14:04:00 -
[130]
If you don't want people to interact with you, play single player.
If you don't want to get ganked, play WoW.
EVE is non-consensual PvP. Which is the reason a lot of the people play it. Let's not change it for one person who disagrees, eh?
You want CONCORD to act like real police? Well, uh, they kinda do. How many times do you see the police getting to a murder scene before the murder occurs?
Some people need to be left alone? So, every time I'm about to shoot someone, I should ask them how they are today, and whether they want to be killed? Uh....
So yeah, to sum up, EVE clearly isn't for you =/. Nowhere in EVE is supposed to be 100% safe. Now, if you can't accept that you should play something else. I'm not being harsh here, that's just the way things are.
Also, you really, really shouldn't carry 10bils worth of stuff in something that will be likely to get ganked....
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3Lance
Racketeers
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Posted - 2007.08.27 14:20:00 -
[131]
Originally by: Desolacer CCP, today you have lost 6 people from your subscription list.
If in some fit of insanity this would ever happen, me and my fellow 100+ corpies would be out of an source of entertainment/isk. And thats just ONE CORP. No imagine how many others would leave. And imagine how many $14s that is.
Majority rules, sucka.
Also,
Originally by: Desolacer yep, each and every ganker is scum irl. waa waa all you want.
I'm actually a very nice person IRL. I enjoy long walks alongside the canal on a sunny day. I'm working part time to make money so I can go to Peru next year to help out with a charity project over there. I'm far from scum.
However, I think I'd be right to say every childish whiner online is a childish whiner IRL.
Originally by: Stakhanov
Originally by: Zaqar
Originally by: Desolacer Who the heck gives YOU the right to ruin it for others buy blowing them up |
Freddy Jnr
Racketeers
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Posted - 2007.08.27 14:24:00 -
[132]
Quote: I'm working part time to make money so I can go to Peru next year to help out with a charity project over there.
Aren't there enough under-privilleged childred in the NorthWest of England for you?
3Lance - you ARE scum!
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3Lance
Racketeers
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Posted - 2007.08.27 14:25:00 -
[133]
They've all got guns!
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Originally by: Zaqar
Originally by: Desolacer Who the heck gives YOU the right to ruin it for others buy blowing them up.
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Asestorian
Minmatar Domination.
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Posted - 2007.08.27 14:25:00 -
[134]
This is one of the most awesome threads I've ever seen.
Let's see what's happened here.
Desolacer signed up to a Massive Multiplayer Online Role Playing Game, and attempted to play it solo. Because of his wish to play it solo, he avoided all interaction with anyone else, and therefore wasn't aware of the rules of engagement in high security space. Then he gets killed, and comes to the forums to whine about it.
People then go on to explain that EVE was designed to be like that, and that sooner or later, as has happened here, you will die if you don't interact with other people in order to learn about how the game works.
Desolacer decided this wasn't quite what he wanted to hear, so he starts using personal insults.
People continue to be nice and explain to him how he is misunderstanding how the game works.
And what's even better, on one of his early posts he claims someone is being mean by trying to force their style of play onto someone else. He even called the a hypocrite. But in return he says that this game, which is designed to be cruel, and full of death and destruction, should be changed so he can play singleplayer in high sec, therefore ruining the game for a great many subscribers. Hold on, isn't that the definition of a hypocrite.
I'd have a go at explaining to him myself, but he wouldn't listen, would you Desolacter. No, didn't think so.
The fact is mate. You chose the wrong game. You then insulted people. You try to bring real life into a place where it doesn't belong. Most of the people in this game who would kill you over and over because they can would never do such a thing in real life. It's foolish and uncalled for to assume they would. People are only starting to flame you a bit because almost every one of your replies is an attempt to insult them, because they play the game how it was designed to be played. And that is however they want.
"Yeah, that's exactly what I mean Ases. I want to play the game how I want too."
Good point Desolacer. I'm happy I made it for you. But the fact is that people play the game how they want, whilst taking into account the other people who play the game how they want. There are very successful carebears out there who have no intention of PvPing, but accept that others do, and make plans to work around that. You have to do that, or you will die.
Now, once again, I can only say that you should simply quit the game. It clearly isn't the right one for you to be playing. There are plenty of MMO's out there, or single player games, where you can sit and play PvE all day without worry. If you want to play EVE, then you have to accept what EVE is, not complain about it and try to change it.
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Radar Rat
SPECTRE Ops
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Posted - 2007.08.27 14:28:00 -
[135]
Desolacer, you still haven't had the guts to tell everyone EXACTLY what you lost and under what circumstances, all you've said is that it is around 10bil isk worth..
If it turns out that you were transporting T2 bpo's through jita or niarja in a badger mk2 i will laugh my head off..
As for real life problems excluding you from in-game conflict.. im sure the people who ganked/pirated you were psychic and knew all about your real life situation..
People that know me, know that i have alot of real life problems at the moment, in fact i like eve because it gives me a chance to get away from the problems that exist outside of the game, but no matter what my real life problems are, i would never take them into the game or expect special treatment because of them.
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Laura Steel
Minmatar Independent Interspace Industiers Fallout Project
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Posted - 2007.08.27 14:36:00 -
[136]
Whats with people thinking concord is protecting them, they are there to make sure that no aggression goes unpunished, they arent there to freakin look after you!
It even says so in the damn tutorial. ----
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RenegadeRacer
Racketeers
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Posted - 2007.08.27 14:46:00 -
[137]
Originally by: Fellonie I think CCP should make high sec alittle harder to pirate in. Too many people are able to get killed and get away with it in high sec. But honestly, being killed is a part of the game. So deal with it. If you want to do something with no pvp then i would say stay in high sec. But that would mean that CCP would have to ***** down on making high sec alittle more harsh towards those who try to kill...
WTF! High sec has enough rules that hinder piracy already. It is a ton tougher than low sec. High sec piracy depends solely on the stupidity of the victim. If the doesnt make the right misstake for us then we dont get to watch him go boom. Also CCP notifys said of the dangers with warning messages, so i dont see how you can make it much harder.
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PhantomVyper
Darkness Inc.
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Posted - 2007.08.27 14:58:00 -
[138]
Originally by: RenegadeRacer
WTF! High sec has enough rules that hinder piracy already. It is a ton tougher than low sec. High sec piracy depends solely on the stupidity of the victim. If the doesnt make the right misstake for us then we dont get to watch him go boom. Also CCP notifys said of the dangers with warning messages, so i dont see how you can make it much harder.
Renegade, please tell 3y3ball (or how the hell you spell his name), that he owes me a Caracal kill, the carebear was just finishing up his string of smacks and insults that usually come before he sums up the courage to engage my Punisher when 3y3 came into the belt and scared him of!
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RenegadeRacer
Racketeers
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Posted - 2007.08.27 15:07:00 -
[139]
Originally by: PhantomVyper
Renegade, please tell 3y3ball (or how the hell you spell his name), that he owes me a Caracal kill, the carebear was just finishing up his string of smacks and insults that usually come before he sums up the courage to engage my Punisher when 3y3 came into the belt and scared him of!
lol i think you'll have to forceably take a caracal from him. just please allow rak to watch with shield transporters ready .
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iiOs
The Cry of Mankind
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Posted - 2007.08.27 15:57:00 -
[140]
why do ppl even bother to explain him something..
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Zaqar
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Posted - 2007.08.27 16:26:00 -
[141]
Guess ISD must be asleep. It's ok to make posts on these forums telling people they are scum in real life, yes?
Ok, will bear that in mind, thanks.
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Drethon
Gallente Selinir Industries
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Posted - 2007.08.27 17:08:00 -
[142]
It is most unfortunate that you lost something you found important but I think changing the game to prevent non-consensual PVP would ruin the core of the game.
Now I'm not just another pirate who wants to blow everyone up. I'm trained up to use a Hulk, Occator and L4 Dominix. I'm producing a majority of all Gallente equipment up to Cruisers and working on Battlecruisers and running missions hard to get standings to open up a hi-sec POS.
I've only engaged in combat in my Brutix once against a ore thieving Raven and got my tail thoroughly handed to me before I managed to dock at the station with 10% hull left (whew). I have enjoyed every ship I have lost in PvP (and usually been thoroughly ****ed loosing them in PvE). I DO NOT want to see hi-sec be made perfectly safe.
Every ship loss has been an opportunity to learn from my mistakes and annoy the heck out of the pirates when they cannot catch me. Since I lost my last hauler nearly six months ago I have not lost a ship in PvP, this includes my Itteron IIIs I run missions though low sec with (17% hull on docking one time). Had a great time making a trade run through low sec in my blockade runner with a CBC chasing me though four systems and not managing a lock on me.
Any time I haul something more expensive than 20M (except ore) it goes in my blockade runner or my T2 tanked Dominix. If I were to ever haul anything worth more than 1b that didn't fit in my Dominix I'd probably send it by courier with a deposit equal to the goods or hire a merc crew to escort me and make them give me a deposit returnable upon safe delivery.
If I want to play a game where I cannot loose I'll go play freelancer or some other off line game with easy mode on. I want online play to be a gamble so that when I accomplish something, it means something. If I don't want it to mean anything, I don't care if the results are persistent.
So to sum up my thoughts, I don't run anything on my own in Eve that I'm not willing to loose. If I'm not willing to loose something, I will run it with insurance so that if it is lost, I can recover it. If it is something that is not recoverable, there will be lovely storage throughout Eve of all my fancy stuff that will never leave a station.
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Karlemgne
The Malevolent
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Posted - 2007.08.27 17:22:00 -
[143]
Originally by: Sashaa Lee
Originally by: Shar'Tuk TheHated Oh I forgot something.. enjoy WoW! Can I have your stuff?!?
To late, I already asked......
Back OFF! I was the first person to ask.
-Karl
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Karlemgne
The Malevolent
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Posted - 2007.08.27 17:35:00 -
[144]
Originally by: RenegadeRacer
Originally by: Fellonie I think CCP should make high sec alittle harder to pirate in. Too many people are able to get killed and get away with it in high sec. But honestly, being killed is a part of the game. So deal with it. If you want to do something with no pvp then i would say stay in high sec. But that would mean that CCP would have to ***** down on making high sec alittle more harsh towards those who try to kill...
WTF! High sec has enough rules that hinder piracy already. It is a ton tougher than low sec. High sec piracy depends solely on the stupidity of the victim. If the doesnt make the right misstake for us then we dont get to watch him go boom. Also CCP notifys said of the dangers with warning messages, so i dont see how you can make it much harder.
You just want to be able to can bait newbs, admit it.
-Karlemgne
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Jessonater
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Posted - 2007.08.27 17:54:00 -
[145]
**** off carebear, this game isn't for you.
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Phated1
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Posted - 2007.08.27 18:08:00 -
[146]
never argue with idiots, they bring you down to their level then beat you down with experience
case in point...desolacer...hes not going to agree with you no matter how right you are or how hard you try...so can we please just let this topic die and go to the back like it should? maybe then we can get on with some interesting crime and punishment
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Raven Owa
Racketeers
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Posted - 2007.08.27 18:13:00 -
[147]
Quote: You just want to be able to can bait newbs, admit it.
We never denied it.
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Nyck
Not Your Common Killers
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Posted - 2007.08.27 18:13:00 -
[148]
Originally by: Jessonater **** off carebear, this game isn't for you.
That's a good way to get hit with the ban stick. ----------------------------------------------- Could someone tally how many times this topic has been beat to death? |
Feilamya
Minmatar Against all Rules SOUL CARTEL
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Posted - 2007.08.27 18:16:00 -
[149]
Originally by: Desolacer But.. I dont know what to say..you guys need to realise some people need to be left alone, life already sucks for them, let them have their little space on a game they play as a hobby... Especially the ones who always help others and never harass others in real life or ingame.
All this "let them have their little space" crap reminds me of some video I have seen some days ago about Chinese gold farmers. So, after reading 3 pages of this thread (yes, you are right, I must be bored as hell), I'm getting an idea where all those unknown "omg! I got ganked" trolling alts come from. The usual bad English in their posts fits perfectly into the big picture.
So please stop bumping this thread. You might be supporting ISK farmers by just drawing attention to it.
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Karlemgne
The Malevolent
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Posted - 2007.08.27 18:45:00 -
[150]
Originally by: Raven Owa
Quote: You just want to be able to can bait newbs, admit it.
We never denied it.
QFT
I'm sure you wouldn't mind if I quote you the next time an argument starts about your preferred play style.
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Raven Owa
Racketeers
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Posted - 2007.08.27 18:49:00 -
[151]
Quote: I'm sure you wouldn't mind if I quote you the next time an argument starts about your preferred play style.
Not at all in fact heres a better quote: "I wish there were woman and children living on those ships and as they go pop I could hear the screams"
Its my 15 bucks ill do as I please if that bothers you come stop me. Yes you come to me as you have the problem.
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Sirrus Kwan
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Posted - 2007.08.27 18:56:00 -
[152]
Originally by: Desolacer This wasnt a 450 mil loss, I wouldnt complain if it were.
More in the regions of 10 billion. What would you guys know of someones solace. You dont know where I live and how hard I had to struggle to get what I wanted over the years given the worst of real life circumstances. The fact that someone in my situation even managed to play eve with every bit of drawback physically would be worth something to commend but you guys take pleasure in ******* someone over completely. And you laugh about it.
I failed myself and I failed my friend. And I hope each and every one of you lose what you work for irl and your friends who deserve better friends than each one of you who laugh at destroying other peoples work.
can i have all 6 accounts/characters?
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Cpt Fina
Insult to Injury
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Posted - 2007.08.27 19:19:00 -
[153]
I DO think high sec piracy and suicideganks should be viable but there are some issues that need to be worked out. The can system as well as the inability to conduct relatively safe high end trade with freighters needs a revision.
This is however the wrong forum for such a thread because some (or many) in C&P don't realize that the industrial aspects of eve can be as enjoyable and complex as the combat.
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Agent Li
Caldari Galactic Defence Consortium
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Posted - 2007.08.27 19:27:00 -
[154]
Originally by: Desolacer a. It makes people unregister b. It makes people tell other people to unregister.
CCP, today you have lost 6 people from your subscription list. Not because of how dynamic your game is, but because the people who like to play your game as a hobby are the victims of your own failure to make high sector a secure environment for players.
The more people get ganked in high sec. The more they'll quit.
Wrong.
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Raven Foxfire
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Posted - 2007.08.27 21:02:00 -
[155]
Originally by: Desolacer None of you seem to get the fact that some people cannot be in large corps and just want to be left alone and solo without disturbing anyone.
why cant you respect that persons wishes. go do your thing in low sec, why ruin a loners day who never hurts or harasses anyone. We just want to be left alone, this is a real time game. people who are okay with your style of gameplay can go to low sec. people who are not are in high sec.
Where is the persons fault here. You say they dont know how to play the game. This isnt about the game, this about you people who are scum for picking on people who have to work like **** for their lives and come back and play eve for a short while everyday.
NOT INTERESTED IN PVP.
Hmmmm then this game is NOT I REPEAT NOT -====NOT=====- For you. I play solo in high sec whilst talking to SWA people all the time. I left my caracal at a stargate for over 2 hours in high sec. Did I know the risk of that yes Did I care No If you cant handle your ship getting blown up in HIGH SEC [because OMG IT CAN!] No really! IT CAN HAPPEN! Then dont play online :P Poker and beer is for you :D
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Krows
Crimson Star Empire FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.27 22:49:00 -
[156]
Originally by: Cpt Fina I DO think high sec piracy and suicideganks should be viable but there are some issues that need to be worked out. The can system as well as the inability to conduct relatively safe high end trade with freighters needs a revision.
This is however the wrong forum for such a thread because some (or many) in C&P don't realize that the industrial aspects of eve can be as enjoyable and complex as the combat.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with the current jet can system as jet can mining in itself was not the original intention of jet cans. If you want to argue realism in terms of Concord response you should at least look at the "realism" of the cargo space in that little can. The value of 27,500 isn't done because CCP wants miners to have an easy time mining, it was for simplicity's sake when loot dropped. The fact still remains that jet cans were never meant for their current use but their cargo space still makes them practical for those who do not want to use secure cans.
Can flipping is simply what happens when you use an unsecure can for mining. Honestly, if it was not working as intended, CCP would have changed the process by now. I am also fully aware of the fun in the Industrial aspect of EVE. Clearly, you still need to be reminded that there are people who have fun interrupting Industrial work (IE pirates and criminals).
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Captian Internet
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Posted - 2007.08.27 23:57:00 -
[157]
LIFE AS A PERPETUAL MISSION DEVICE HAS NO REWARDS *snip* Your signature was removed for being t3. Please email [email protected] with a link to your signature graphic if you have questions. -Rauth Kivaro ([email protected]) |
Jhagiti Tyran
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Posted - 2007.08.28 00:58:00 -
[158]
Originally by: AwsomeBill If you have no intent of interacting with other players in any way why don't you go play Freelancer, it has exelent singleplayer mode.
I played Freelancer Multiplayer for years but people and clans that cry when they get killed grew more and more common and ruined the fun so I left the game. People who cry over pvp exist in all games
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Vrognem
Ardent Adversary Anvil.
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Posted - 2007.08.28 01:04:00 -
[159]
/me gets in the EPIC THREAD BEFORE TEH EPIC LOCKZ!
This has been a great lunchtime for me, thanks for all involved posting.
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SloBones
Sicarri Covenant
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Posted - 2007.08.28 01:17:00 -
[160]
And this is the reason I like to high sec pirate. I think we get an I quite screw high sec pirates thread every week. Like stated by many of the players above me. We really don't care what you think. We will keep killing people in high sec.
Go play WOW. Give us your stuff. End of discussion.
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omiNATION
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Posted - 2007.08.28 01:37:00 -
[161]
Desolacer:
You're a moron.
Play X3, or some other single player game, seriously, they're awesome.
Use Secure Cargo Containers with passwords... pirates blow you up, they get nothing except the pleasure of costing you money, but they don't profit. SCCs also increase your maximum cargo capacity so a plus plus.
Other than that, I don't give a crap about your goddamn sob story. Maybe you have AIDS and am bedridden with cancer and you're only 12 years old. Also you have a small ***** and have to work 60 hours a week. Your life isn't so bad that you can apparently afford a computer, an internet connection and $15 a month, all for **RECREATIONAL** purposes. Cry me a ******* river, please. Seriously, I have a boat and I want to sail it across the stream of your sorrow. You sad sack of spoiled brat wrapped up in angst and self-pity. You're playing a game where people pretend to be pirate mercenaries, arguably one of the saddest specimens of humanity to ever exist, and they have every right to laugh at you. Do you know why? Because you're human waste. You complain about losing imaginary property to game mechanics that have been around *literally* SINCE THE BEGINNING OF TIME, then you start a goddamn epic novel of a forum thread complaining about it. "Oh noes, i wore a suit of marinated steaks and got eaten by tigers. won't someone feel sorry for me and change the rules of the universe to balance in my favor?" This on top of the fact that no one is forcing you 1)at gun point 2)in an Auschwitz concentration camp 3)on top of a box with a fox, next to a mouse in a house, to play this freaking game. THE BLOODY HUMANITY OF IT ALL.
Seriously, you're a dumbass, who fits 10 bil's worth of stuff in an industrial, then cries because he didn't take the necessary precautions. You know what we call that? The American sub-prime housing sector.
Die in a fire.
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SloBones
Sicarri Covenant
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Posted - 2007.08.28 01:47:00 -
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Originally by: omiNATION Desolacer:
You're a moron.
Play X3, or some other single player game, seriously, they're awesome.
Use Secure Cargo Containers with passwords... pirates blow you up, they get nothing except the pleasure of costing you money, but they don't profit. SCCs also increase your maximum cargo capacity so a plus plus.
Other than that, I don't give a crap about your goddamn sob story. Maybe you have AIDS and am bedridden with cancer and you're only 12 years old. Also you have a small ***** and have to work 60 hours a week. Your life isn't so bad that you can apparently afford a computer, an internet connection and $15 a month, all for **RECREATIONAL** purposes. Cry me a ******* river, please. Seriously, I have a boat and I want to sail it across the stream of your sorrow. You sad sack of spoiled brat wrapped up in angst and self-pity. You're playing a game where people pretend to be pirate mercenaries, arguably one of the saddest specimens of humanity to ever exist, and they have every right to laugh at you. Do you know why? Because you're human waste. You complain about losing imaginary property to game mechanics that have been around *literally* SINCE THE BEGINNING OF TIME, then you start a goddamn epic novel of a forum thread complaining about it. "Oh noes, i wore a suit of marinated steaks and got eaten by tigers. won't someone feel sorry for me and change the rules of the universe to balance in my favor?" This on top of the fact that no one is forcing you 1)at gun point 2)in an Auschwitz concentration camp 3)on top of a box with a fox, next to a mouse in a house, to play this freaking game. THE BLOODY HUMANITY OF IT ALL.
Seriously, you're a dumbass, who fits 10 bil's worth of stuff in an industrial, then cries because he didn't take the necessary precautions. You know what we call that? The American sub-prime housing sector.
Die in a fire.
Well that just about made my night... Thanks for the laugh
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Kane Rizzel
NovaKane Incorporated Derek Knows Us
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Posted - 2007.08.28 02:02:00 -
[163]
Originally by: omiNATION Desolacer:
You're a moron.
Play X3, or some other single player game, seriously, they're awesome.
Use Secure Cargo Containers with passwords... pirates blow you up, they get nothing except the pleasure of costing you money, but they don't profit. SCCs also increase your maximum cargo capacity so a plus plus.
Other than that, I don't give a crap about your goddamn sob story. Maybe you have AIDS and am bedridden with cancer and you're only 12 years old. Also you have a small ***** and have to work 60 hours a week. Your life isn't so bad that you can apparently afford a computer, an internet connection and $15 a month, all for **RECREATIONAL** purposes. Cry me a ******* river, please. Seriously, I have a boat and I want to sail it across the stream of your sorrow. You sad sack of spoiled brat wrapped up in angst and self-pity. You're playing a game where people pretend to be pirate mercenaries, arguably one of the saddest specimens of humanity to ever exist, and they have every right to laugh at you. Do you know why? Because you're human waste. You complain about losing imaginary property to game mechanics that have been around *literally* SINCE THE BEGINNING OF TIME, then you start a goddamn epic novel of a forum thread complaining about it. "Oh noes, i wore a suit of marinated steaks and got eaten by tigers. won't someone feel sorry for me and change the rules of the universe to balance in my favor?" This on top of the fact that no one is forcing you 1)at gun point 2)in an Auschwitz concentration camp 3)on top of a box with a fox, next to a mouse in a house, to play this freaking game. THE BLOODY HUMANITY OF IT ALL.
Seriously, you're a dumbass, who fits 10 bil's worth of stuff in an industrial, then cries because he didn't take the necessary precautions. You know what we call that? The American sub-prime housing sector.
Die in a fire.
The Jack Daniels, it burns when it comes out the nose
Originally by: High Sierra note to self: dont ever say anything to anyone on the internet about anything ever again.
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Captian Internet
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Posted - 2007.08.28 02:18:00 -
[164]
haha wow good thing there are no (you know who's(no not voldemort)) in c&p or that epic wall of text would've gotten pwned in 3 seconds
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Sc0rphion
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Posted - 2007.08.28 04:20:00 -
[165]
Dude let me tell u something... 40.000 accounts without include alts ... paying 14 $ per month 560.000 $ or Ç whatever u want to watch...
that is whay u never go to make in one life time!! bcoz if if if if and IF u can do this and u still play EvE online u are a fu .... sisy ^^ :) i will be spending all my money in partys and Even better i will asociate with CCP to make more money =P!! So ur account and ur friend's accounts for not pay 14 $ are Totally nothing.... This is not a democratic country .. Is a game and if u get mad about a game stop playing =)!! Im not Yarr but YARRRRRRRR for u carebear crying babe.
and btw i guess u still play... :) 2003 - 2007 = 33.600.000 dollars (without magazine an stuff) :)))) that is more enought to shut down EvE online and a life of Hard wasting of money.
But an intelligent maker of money will not shutdown Eve =) bye
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Tortun Nahme
Minmatar Heimatar Services Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.08.28 05:24:00 -
[166]
Originally by: Jhagiti Tyran
Originally by: AwsomeBill If you have no intent of interacting with other players in any way why don't you go play Freelancer, it has exelent singleplayer mode.
I played Freelancer Multiplayer for years but people and clans that cry when they get killed grew more and more common and ruined the fun so I left the game. People who cry over pvp exist in all games
man it was so much fun making them whine
pegasus ftw Why there should be a breathalyzer to login to Eve-Forums:
Quote: Smacking my own alt in a nerf-thread while drunk, he was irritating a Hauler full of tech II n00bs, Oops.
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K'Vigor
Amarr Trouble Every Day
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Posted - 2007.08.28 05:43:00 -
[167]
Edited by: K''Vigor on 28/08/2007 05:52:49
Originally by: Desolacer
The more people get ganked in high sec. The more they'll quit.
This will help to eradicate people that whine too much.As of now I'm pro high sec piracy,suicide gank FTW
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Neal Cassady
Mutually Assured Distraction Molotov Coalition
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Posted - 2007.08.28 06:22:00 -
[168]
Originally by: Holfam Damily Maybe a promise needs to be broken that was made to a child, who will not understand.
somewhere a child is crying because this dude got his hauler ganked? this is too funny. thread delivers!
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Phated1
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Posted - 2007.08.28 06:41:00 -
[169]
Originally by: Kane Rizzel
Originally by: omiNATION Desolacer:
You're a moron.
Play X3, or some other single player game, seriously, they're awesome.
Use Secure Cargo Containers with passwords... pirates blow you up, they get nothing except the pleasure of costing you money, but they don't profit. SCCs also increase your maximum cargo capacity so a plus plus.
Other than that, I don't give a crap about your goddamn sob story. Maybe you have AIDS and am bedridden with cancer and you're only 12 years old. Also you have a small ***** and have to work 60 hours a week. Your life isn't so bad that you can apparently afford a computer, an internet connection and $15 a month, all for **RECREATIONAL** purposes. Cry me a ******* river, please. Seriously, I have a boat and I want to sail it across the stream of your sorrow. You sad sack of spoiled brat wrapped up in angst and self-pity. You're playing a game where people pretend to be pirate mercenaries, arguably one of the saddest specimens of humanity to ever exist, and they have every right to laugh at you. Do you know why? Because you're human waste. You complain about losing imaginary property to game mechanics that have been around *literally* SINCE THE BEGINNING OF TIME, then you start a goddamn epic novel of a forum thread complaining about it. "Oh noes, i wore a suit of marinated steaks and got eaten by tigers. won't someone feel sorry for me and change the rules of the universe to balance in my favor?" This on top of the fact that no one is forcing you 1)at gun point 2)in an Auschwitz concentration camp 3)on top of a box with a fox, next to a mouse in a house, to play this freaking game. THE BLOODY HUMANITY OF IT ALL.
Seriously, you're a dumbass, who fits 10 bil's worth of stuff in an industrial, then cries because he didn't take the necessary precautions. You know what we call that? The American sub-prime housing sector.
Die in a fire.
The Jack Daniels, it burns when it comes out the nose
will this fit in a sig? if so i give it sig of the year votes
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Danienn
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Posted - 2007.08.28 06:42:00 -
[170]
Originally by: Sc0rphion Dude let me tell u something... 40.000 accounts without include alts ... paying 14 $ per month 560.000 $ or Ç whatever u want to watch...
that is whay u never go to make in one life time!! bcoz if if if if and IF u can do this and u still play EvE online u are a fu .... sisy ^^ :) i will be spending all my money in partys and Even better i will asociate with CCP to make more money =P!! So ur account and ur friend's accounts for not pay 14 $ are Totally nothing.... This is not a democratic country .. Is a game and if u get mad about a game stop playing =)!! Im not Yarr but YARRRRRRRR for u carebear crying babe.
and btw i guess u still play... :) 2003 - 2007 = 33.600.000 dollars (without magazine an stuff) :)))) that is more enought to shut down EvE online and a life of Hard wasting of money.
But an intelligent maker of money will not shutdown Eve =) bye
what did you just say?
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Cpt Fina
Insult to Injury
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Posted - 2007.08.28 07:58:00 -
[171]
Originally by: Krows
Originally by: Cpt Fina I DO think high sec piracy and suicideganks should be viable but there are some issues that need to be worked out. The can system as well as the inability to conduct relatively safe high end trade with freighters needs a revision.
This is however the wrong forum for such a thread because some (or many) in C&P don't realize that the industrial aspects of eve can be as enjoyable and complex as the combat.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with the current jet can system as jet can mining in itself was not the original intention of jet cans. If you want to argue realism in terms of Concord response you should at least look at the "realism" of the cargo space in that little can. The value of 27,500 isn't done because CCP wants miners to have an easy time mining, it was for simplicity's sake when loot dropped. The fact still remains that jet cans were never meant for their current use but their cargo space still makes them practical for those who do not want to use secure cans.
Can flipping is simply what happens when you use an unsecure can for mining. Honestly, if it was not working as intended, CCP would have changed the process by now. I am also fully aware of the fun in the Industrial aspect of EVE. Clearly, you still need to be reminded that there are people who have fun interrupting Industrial work (IE pirates and criminals).
Originally intended and not broken isn't necessary the same thing. Visit some high-sec belts and you'll see hundreds of anchored secure cans floating around.
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Johnny Blademan
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Posted - 2007.08.28 08:05:00 -
[172]
Desolacer, After getting scammed last night like the noob that I am, all I can say is 'don't get mad get even'! Dude, you are whining like a little girl and really have brought this misery on yourself.
Do what I'm doing and figure out how to hunt the ****** down and kill him....and Julius you noob scamming punk I will kill you!
"I have a boat that I want to sail over the river of your sorrow"!!!!
LMAO
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Lady Beauvoir
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Posted - 2007.08.28 08:56:00 -
[173]
What I don't understand is this:
Let's assume that CCP would stop ship PVP in 0.5 sec and higher. Desolater's goal is accomplished. But, what on earth does gives the right for Desolater et al to take part in nonconsensual market PVP against me? I want to trade my goods to buyers without someone I don't know from somewhere I have never been cutting my profit margin just because he felt like I was earning too much and wanted to cut into my profits just because he could...
What I'm trying to say is that this is a PVP game, through and through. You live and breathe PVP, no matter what you do. Every roid you mine is away from someone else. Every trade you make is ISK taken from a competing trader. Every item you build are materials taken away from someone hoping to purchase them for production. So on. Either you have it all or you have none of it.
To the OP, I sympathise with your issues in RL. I, too, have experienced difficulties, such as losing a friend in a train crash, watching my mother wither away and finally die of cancer and so on. But, in EVE, nothing is final; no matter what happens, I can always go through difficulties to get back on my feet and that is something that gives me comfort when I have a hard time in the real world. Being able to lose it all in an instant but then working your way back is what makes this game stand out from everything I've ever played.
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Dhejay Centrix
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Posted - 2007.08.28 10:54:00 -
[174]
Originally by: omiNATION "Oh noes, i wore a suit of marinated steaks and got eaten by tigers. won't someone feel sorry for me and change the rules of the universe to balance in my favor?"
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA you sir are a legend.
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Freddy Jnr
Racketeers
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Posted - 2007.08.28 11:11:00 -
[175]
Quote: Die in a fire.
And I bet you started this thread hoping to get some support didn't you!
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Sandra Jones
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Posted - 2007.08.28 11:11:00 -
[176]
you notice that for everyone whos leaving because of that reason, there is someone else who had fun and is staying?
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Rico Naginata
Wings of Redemption Black Flag Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.28 11:11:00 -
[177]
Originally by: Zaqar
Originally by: Desolacer Who the heck gives YOU the right to ruin it for others buy blowing them up.
CCP
You win the forums for today
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Lube Myholes
Nekkid Inc.
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Posted - 2007.08.28 11:13:00 -
[178]
Jita is too crowded anyway
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H3ndrix
Dragons Of Redemption Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.08.28 11:30:00 -
[179]
PvP in eve is consensual, you consent to it everytime you log in
I used to have a Sig but CCP Nerfed it !!!! It wasn't Nerfed, it was moderationally enhanced. -Darth Patches |
Drethon
Gallente Selinir Industries
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Posted - 2007.08.28 12:05:00 -
[180]
Desolacer is right, all this thinking required in Eve will bring about the downfall of our civilization! The proof is here: Proof
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Nessa Aldeen
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Posted - 2007.08.28 12:09:00 -
[181]
There's is a button. It is marked 'A'. Don't press A when you have ten billion so-called lewt in cargo. Thank you for your time.
Call 1-300-Igotkilledwhine-911 for further assistance.
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Cippalippus Primus
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.08.28 13:07:00 -
[182]
I got ganked in Empire. Learn from your mistakes is Eve's motto, **** happens all the time. Also big lols at that rant!
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Freddy Jnr
Racketeers
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Posted - 2007.08.28 14:49:00 -
[183]
Is this some kind of joke or just an idle threat?
You're clearly so disillusioned with the game that you just can't wait to be allowed back in to it.
You Loser!
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Schmelzbaahd Auwlvaize
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Posted - 2007.08.28 14:57:00 -
[184]
Comment by Lady Beauvoir:
"Let's assume that CCP would stop ship PVP in 0.5 sec and higher. Desolater's goal is accomplished. But, what on earth does gives the right for Desolater et al to take part in nonconsensual market PVP against me? I want to trade my goods to buyers without someone I don't know from somewhere I have never been cutting my profit margin just because he felt like I was earning too much and wanted to cut into my profits just because he could..."
What planet does she live on? Free trade equated with piracy? Next someone will be breathing her air. Oh, that's right. Like the rest of the predators, she's out in space, waiting to pounce on the unsuspecting and weak. Proof of her superiority. Ah, HA, hahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :P
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PhantomVyper
Darkness Inc.
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Posted - 2007.08.28 16:29:00 -
[185]
Originally by: Schmelzbaahd Auwlvaize Comment by Lady Beauvoir:
"Let's assume that CCP would stop ship PVP in 0.5 sec and higher. Desolater's goal is accomplished. But, what on earth does gives the right for Desolater et al to take part in nonconsensual market PVP against me? I want to trade my goods to buyers without someone I don't know from somewhere I have never been cutting my profit margin just because he felt like I was earning too much and wanted to cut into my profits just because he could..."
What planet does she live on? Free trade equated with piracy? Next someone will be breathing her air. Oh, that's right. Like the rest of the predators, she's out in space, waiting to pounce on the unsuspecting and weak. Proof of her superiority. Ah, HA, hahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :P
Its bullet point list time!
- Completely and utterly fails to spot evident sarcasm: check - Doesn't even know how to use the quote function on the forum: check
Yep, you win the thread alright...
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Gimpest
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Posted - 2007.08.28 17:43:00 -
[186]
Originally by: Desolacer a. It makes people unregister b. It makes people tell other people to unregister.
CCP, today you have lost 6 people from your subscription list. Not because of how dynamic your game is, but because the people who like to play your game as a hobby are the victims of your own failure to make high sector a secure environment for players.
The more people get ganked in high sec. The more they'll quit.
I am somewhat new to the game and high sec piracy made me:
a) Register. b) Tell other people to register.
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Creesch
Under the Wings of Fury Dogs of War.
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Posted - 2007.08.28 17:59:00 -
[187]
Originally by: Desolacer
Originally by: Holfam Damily
rubish
Thank you and a lot more rubish
Serious are you planning on only reaction to the positive reactions in this thread or do you have the nervers to actually react in a proper mature manner to the other reactions as well ? There are a lot of reactions in this thread (tnx for the reading material everyone :D) who are not that bad towards you and are just asking for a proper response from you. All I see is someone complaining and flaming a bit and hiding behind reactions that look a bit to much like they where written after you asked someone to please backup up your cause (coincident they are all from relative new characters ?)
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Ildryn
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.08.28 18:04:00 -
[188]
Stop the High Sec whining....remove Concord for a month...
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techzer0
IDLE GUNS
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Posted - 2007.08.28 18:12:00 -
[189]
Originally by: Ildryn Stop the High Sec whining....remove Concord for a month...
^^First person on my gank list if that happened ____________________ Hi. I'm not an alt :) |
firepup82
The Ankou The Reckoning.
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Posted - 2007.08.28 18:40:00 -
[190]
Originally by: Desolacer a. It makes people unregister b. It makes people tell other people to unregister.
CCP, today you have lost 6 people from your subscription list. Not because of how dynamic your game is, but because the people who like to play your game as a hobby are the victims of your own failure to make high sector a secure environment for players.
The more people get ganked in high sec. The more they'll quit.
Well......bye
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Larkonis Trassler
Suicide Kings
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Posted - 2007.08.28 18:55:00 -
[191]
Originally by: Desolacer This wasnt a 450 mil loss, I wouldnt complain if it were.
More in the regions of 10 billion. What would you guys know of someones solace. You dont know where I live and how hard I had to struggle to get what I wanted over the years given the worst of real life circumstances. The fact that someone in my situation even managed to play eve with every bit of drawback physically would be worth something to commend but you guys take pleasure in ******* someone over completely. And you laugh about it.
I failed myself and I failed my friend. And I hope each and every one of you lose what you work for irl and your friends who deserve better friends than each one of you who laugh at destroying other peoples work.
Get back in your Hugbox ------------
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Meleia
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Posted - 2007.08.28 19:28:00 -
[192]
Originally by: Larkonis Trassler
Originally by: Desolacer This wasnt a 450 mil loss, I wouldnt complain if it were.
More in the regions of 10 billion. What would you guys know of someones solace. You dont know where I live and how hard I had to struggle to get what I wanted over the years given the worst of real life circumstances. The fact that someone in my situation even managed to play eve with every bit of drawback physically would be worth something to commend but you guys take pleasure in ******* someone over completely. And you laugh about it.
I failed myself and I failed my friend. And I hope each and every one of you lose what you work for irl and your friends who deserve better friends than each one of you who laugh at destroying other peoples work.
Get back in your Hugbox
Get a ******* brain.
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Chainsaw Plankton
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Posted - 2007.08.28 19:52:00 -
[193]
Originally by: techzer0
Originally by: Ildryn Stop the High Sec whining....remove Concord for a month...
^^First person on my gank list if that happened
unless i see him first
and i still at unregister
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MirrorGod
Heretic Army Fang Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.28 20:01:00 -
[194]
I remember the beautiful days of high-sec piracy before I found low-sec and drove my sec status into oblivion...I kinda miss that
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MASTER SMAMMAH
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Posted - 2007.08.28 20:18:00 -
[195]
Hey Desolacer,
These pirates are mostly the same. But evemail me in game. I agree with you. You are right. However, since all that continues, I pirate hunt. Maybe you should try it with an alt or with your main. Give then a taste of what it feels like. Sorry for your loss. Now, make them pay!!!
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Krows
Crimson Star Empire FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.28 20:20:00 -
[196]
Originally by: MASTER SMAMMAH Hey Desolacer,
These pirates are mostly the same. But evemail me in game. I agree with you. You are right. However, since all that continues, I pirate hunt. Maybe you should try it with an alt or with your main. Give then a taste of what it feels like. Sorry for your loss. Now, make them pay!!!
I'm sure they all look forward to more anti-pirates.
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SloBones
Sicarri Covenant
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Posted - 2007.08.28 20:40:00 -
[197]
Originally by: MASTER SMAMMAH Hey Desolacer,
These pirates are mostly the same. But evemail me in game. I agree with you. You are right. However, since all that continues, I pirate hunt. Maybe you should try it with an alt or with your main. Give then a taste of what it feels like. Sorry for your loss. Now, make them pay!!!
Oh great the mighty pirate hunter has found this thread. OH NOES ME SHAKES IN ME BOOTS!!!111oneone!!1
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firepup82
The Ankou The Reckoning.
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Posted - 2007.08.28 20:44:00 -
[198]
Originally by: MASTER SMAMMAH Hey Desolacer,
These pirates are mostly the same. But evemail me in game. I agree with you. You are right. However, since all that continues, I pirate hunt. Maybe you should try it with an alt or with your main. Give then a taste of what it feels like. Sorry for your loss. Now, make them pay!!!
I'll take some! Come get me.
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MITSUK0
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Posted - 2007.08.28 20:52:00 -
[199]
"Stop High Sector Pirating"
No.
This is not hello kitty online. It is the last of the hardcore free for all pvp mmo's. Stop trying to blunt the edges, soften the floor and add hugs.
In short: If you do not like it, gtfo. Plenty of "safe" mmo's out there.
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Conteria Derowin
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Posted - 2007.08.28 20:55:00 -
[200]
This whole line of thinking is stupid, the game is supposed to be REALISTIC, not some care-bare, happy everyone wins BS, i'm older than pre-school so i've left behind the everyone wins games. in real life the Police technically patrol every bit of the united states, but i don't think anyone would be stupid enough to go down to Chicago's old Cabrinee-green neighborhood, with a $25,000 suit and a real rolex watch flashing on their wrist. do that and call the cops you know what they'll do, laugh at you. no i'm not kidding a lot of murder investigations used to dead end in green, you think your watch and wallet is any diffrent than the last dead body?
it the same in Eve if your going to be the dumbest person i know and move 10 Billion Isk worth of stuff through .6 space, get an escort, or be ready to surrender your 10 billion to good game mechanics. and you know what if concord were real people THEY'D LAUGH AT YOUR STUPID SELF for moving that much through a vunrable area undefended too!
as for the game only being a hobby and us running off the not so serious players CCP, this is the best game i know for people who actually have a life, because i can set a skill, go to work, come back and not have lost a step on another player, that allows me as the hobby player with a 10 hour a day 6 day a week job to still come in and have the skills to Gank idiots! sweet!!!
-Conteria
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Grunanca
Fusion Mercenaries Mercenary Services
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Posted - 2007.08.28 21:11:00 -
[201]
Originally by: Desolacer Dont give me priciples of the game and dont try to ruin it for others.
Who the heck gives YOU the right to ruin it for others buy blowing them up.
hippocrite much ?
I know im a scum in real life by your standards. However I would rather be a real life hard working person in real that works for my money rather than getting everything I point at, which I have a very strong sence you get when you think YOUR way of playing the game is any better than my way. You have now tryed to work for something in EVE and lost it, I hope you learned the lesson, it canalso happen in real, and you are definately not ready for it!
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vile56
Nubs. D-L
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Posted - 2007.08.28 22:29:00 -
[202]
i think im gonna pay for 6 more accounts to make up were you left.
woot for me -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sig removed. Is in appropriate for the forums. mail us with a link if you want to know why -Kaemonn ([email protected]) |
Cpt Fina
Insult to Injury
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Posted - 2007.08.28 22:52:00 -
[203]
Originally by: Conteria Derowin This whole line of thinking is stupid, the game is supposed to be REALISTIC, not some care-bare, happy everyone wins BS, i'm older than pre-school so i've left behind the everyone wins games. in real life the Police technically patrol every bit of the united states, but i don't think anyone would be stupid enough to go down to Chicago's old Cabrinee-green neighborhood, with a $25,000 suit and a real rolex watch flashing on their wrist. do that and call the cops you know what they'll do, laugh at you. no i'm not kidding a lot of murder investigations used to dead end in green, you think your watch and wallet is any diffrent than the last dead body?
it the same in Eve if your going to be the dumbest person i know and move 10 Billion Isk worth of stuff through .6 space, get an escort, or be ready to surrender your 10 billion to good game mechanics. and you know what if concord were real people THEY'D LAUGH AT YOUR STUPID SELF for moving that much through a vunrable area undefended too!
as for the game only being a hobby and us running off the not so serious players CCP, this is the best game i know for people who actually have a life, because i can set a skill, go to work, come back and not have lost a step on another player, that allows me as the hobby player with a 10 hour a day 6 day a week job to still come in and have the skills to Gank idiots! sweet!!!
-Conteria
If you want to make real life comparisons then your example probably is a bit off.
In real life the freighter would be a truck. In real life you'd be able to get a heavily armoured truck with an escort that actually could protect it. In Eve however you can't tank your freighter nor do a pre-emptive strike to protect it.
I donÆt know about the OP but traders in Eve often got to invest large amounts of money to actually make any decent profit.
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Adelorae24
Caldari Racketeers
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Posted - 2007.08.28 23:44:00 -
[204]
Originally by: Desolacer Edited by: Desolacer on 26/08/2007 18:14:37 blah blah all you want but it is CCP's problem because the more people pirate in high sec, probability of them quitting is 90% more.
I'm sorry, but are you a *&^$ing paste eater??? What you're saying here is that for every "more people pirate" it increases the probablility of quiting by 90%... That is easily the most horribly mentally devoid statement I've seen in weeks, and I work in tech support. Man you need to tighten up your foil hat. The government brain rays are getting in. Maybe you should just turn off the microwave when you post instead.
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Flinx Evenstar
Minmatar Spartan Industries Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2007.08.28 23:56:00 -
[205]
Originally by: MASTER SMAMMAH Hey Desolacer,
These pirates are mostly the same. But evemail me in game. I agree with you. You are right. However, since all that continues, I pirate hunt. Maybe you should try it with an alt or with your main. Give then a taste of what it feels like. Sorry for your loss. Now, make them pay!!!
Just a quick question...how many have you killed in game I know you have killed a few on the forum due to them laughing themselves to death. But seriously, how goes the crusade? I believe I was a target, and I even told you where I was...but you no pew pew with me
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Flinx Evenstar
Minmatar Spartan Industries Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2007.08.28 23:57:00 -
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Originally by: Adelorae24
Originally by: Desolacer Edited by: Desolacer on 26/08/2007 18:14:37 blah blah all you want but it is CCP's problem because the more people pirate in high sec, probability of them quitting is 90% more.
I'm sorry, but are you a *&^$ing paste eater??? What you're saying here is that for every "more people pirate" it increases the probablility of quiting by 90%... That is easily the most horribly mentally devoid statement I've seen in weeks, and I work in tech support. Man you need to tighten up your foil hat. The government brain rays are getting in. Maybe you should just turn off the microwave when you post instead.
He hasn't quit yet anyway He is just throwing a good old tantrum and whining on the forum. In a few days he will be back licking roids. And the circle will be complete
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Lavraen
Minmatar Racketeers
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Posted - 2007.08.29 00:23:00 -
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I find the best way of dealing with huge losses is to uninstall eve...
Can I have someone's stuff please?
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Captian Internet
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Posted - 2007.08.29 04:19:00 -
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Originally by: H3ndrix PvP in eve is consensual, you consent to it everytime you log in
Every time you press undock actually
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ShinjiKI
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2007.08.29 04:50:00 -
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Yes I'm a noob
Why should CCP stop high sec pirating cause of some forum whiners...you know i come from WoW and people like you are one of the reasons i quit that and started EvE
you will fit perfectly in that community
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MirrorGod
Heretic Army Fang Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.29 04:59:00 -
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Originally by: ShinjiKI Yes I'm a noob
Why should CCP stop high sec pirating cause of some forum whiners...you know i come from WoW and people like you are one of the reasons i quit that and started EvE
you will fit perfectly in that community
Hmm, EvE needs more guys like you.
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Killer Raccoon
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Posted - 2007.08.29 05:50:00 -
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*Copies what everybody that uses logig put in their posts* I agree. Also, if you hate high-sec hunters, then get good at pvp and hunt them down. EVE is a game games are for fun so play it for fun |
Talpa Iute
Murder-Death-Kill
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Posted - 2007.08.29 06:24:00 -
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Originally by: Desolacer a. It makes people unregister b. It makes people tell other people to unregister.
CCP, today you have lost 6 people from your subscription list. whine... whine.. some more whine, and yeah whine.
The more people get ganked in high sec. The more they'll quit.
From the series, Forum whiners unite!!! we bring you yet another IF YOU DONT STOP THIS>>> me and my 176 friends and their 352 accounts will quit eve..
My friend.. if you were stupid enough to get ganked in highsec..then maybe you should rethink your hauling techniques.. like.. Actualy beeing at the computer when hauling a zillion isk worth of loot, oh and try to use tanked up transports.. that usualy helps.
If you dont like the unsecurity of this game... WOW is that way ->*I hear they have PVE only realms, you can craft.. and afk there for as long as you like*.
Yeh.. have a good one, _____________________________________________
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Warrio
Mining Bytes Inc. Mass Destruction.
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Posted - 2007.08.29 07:13:00 -
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((QUOTE = Desolacer)) Written like this ibn case he has a change of heart and removes the original post.
This wasnt a 450 mil loss, I wouldnt complain if it were.
More in the regions of 10 billion. What would you guys know of someones solace. You dont know where I live and how hard I had to struggle to get what I wanted over the years given the worst of real life circumstances. The fact that someone in my situation even managed to play eve with every bit of drawback physically would be worth something to commend but you guys take pleasure in ******* someone over completely. And you laugh about it.
I failed myself and I failed my friend. And I hope each and every one of you lose what you work for irl and your friends who deserve better friends than each one of you who laugh at destroying other peoples work.
((END QUOTE))
This is the reason why I play Eve. Thank you to whoever ganked him. It made me smile, I like smiling.
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Galan Amarias
Amarr Vendetta Underground Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.08.29 07:32:00 -
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Originally by: Warrio [QUOTE = Desolacer] Written like this ibn case he has a change of heart and removes the original post.
This wasnt a 450 mil loss, I wouldnt complain if it were.
More in the regions of 10 billion. What would you guys know of someones solace. You dont know where I live and how hard I had to struggle to get what I wanted over the years given the worst of real life circumstances. The fact that someone in my situation even managed to play eve with every bit of drawback physically would be worth something to commend but you guys take pleasure in ******* someone over completely. And you laugh about it.
I failed myself and I failed my friend. And I hope each and every one of you lose what you work for irl and your friends who deserve better friends than each one of you who laugh at destroying other peoples work.
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This is the reason why I play Eve. Thank you to whoever ganked him. It made me smile, I like smleing.
Yea gods, bravo to whomever got him, 10billion afk in stupid transport? I almost want to slog through the other eight pages for more gems.
Dessie, this is clearly not the game for you. Actually no game is the game for you since you appear to lack the ability to disguish real life from video game play time.
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Ildryn
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.08.29 08:41:00 -
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Post with your main or stfu :)
Eve is PVP....noone gives a crap that you dont like it like that...
It is how it should be
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Ildryn
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.08.29 08:43:00 -
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Originally by: techzer0
Originally by: Ildryn Stop the High Sec whining....remove Concord for a month...
^^First person on my gank list if that happened
Run a search and come get me where i am concord doesnt exist
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port22
The Scope
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Posted - 2007.08.29 09:12:00 -
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LMFAO @ OP
I havent read through the 8 or so pages before this one, but it sounds like you worked hard to get your stuff before it got snatched away from you.
Sounds a lot like real life really doesnt it. Bad luck.
To bad if you dont want to pvp, to bad if you lost a gazillion worth of loot. Its a game, centred around characters interacting (scamming, killing, destroying, uniting in common goals). Your sour cause you got pwnd. Get over it kid.
next!
Originally by: Temp Boi Port FTMFW Period.
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Zenobite
The Gentlemen of Low Moral Fibre
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Posted - 2007.08.29 09:16:00 -
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Edited by: Zenobite on 29/08/2007 09:21:17
Originally by: Flinx Evenstar
Originally by: MASTER SMAMMAH Hey Desolacer,
random anti-priate dribble, dumb generalizations...
Just a quick question...how many have you killed in game I know you have killed a few on the forum due to them laughing themselves to death. But seriously, how goes the crusade? I believe I was a target, and I even told you where I was...but you no pew pew with me
As far as I can tell our fearless anti-pirate has been on the killmail for 1 drake and he only got that cause it looks like they both got blobed. Klepto have got him a few times and hes seems pretty good at getting podded to.
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Rashmika Clavain
Gallente Revelation Space
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Posted - 2007.08.29 09:44:00 -
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6 people eh? Did you cancel all your alts in one go?
I take it the Mew Mew Kitty Online player base has suddenly increased by 6 then?
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Boomershoot
Caldari Insurgent New Eden Tribe Deus .Ex. Machina
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Posted - 2007.08.29 10:05:00 -
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OMG carebears in my eve-o?
proofs says that even freighters aren't secure in high sec space...stop whining about hauling 10b worth stuff in a stupid hauler and baing ganked
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Chainsaw Plankton
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Posted - 2007.08.29 13:12:00 -
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don't put all your eggs in one basket, don't count your chickens before they hatch ect....
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Gaven Blands
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Posted - 2007.08.29 13:58:00 -
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Originally by: Captian Internet Every time you press undock actually
Every time you place a buy order, a sell order, a research job, a manufacturing job, press undock, plus a whole host of other things that occur that have an indeterminate and immeasurable affect on the rest of the community.
Back to "specialist" school for you.
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Aziz Hekato
Minmatar Vitai Lampada
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Posted - 2007.08.29 14:20:00 -
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Edited by: Aziz Hekato on 29/08/2007 14:21:52
Originally by: Radar Rat
Originally by: Desolacer Dont give me priciples of the game and dont try to ruin it for others.
Who the heck gives YOU the right to ruin it for others buy blowing them up.
hippocrite much ?
ROFL.....
You are definately in the wrong game .. in fact in your case i think any multiplayer game would be the wrong game ....
I can only imagine him playing Counter-strike:
-"WTF?!?! Why the hell did you shoot me for?!"
-"Um..Your a terrorist..?"
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Roosterbrood
Caldari Zzz
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Posted - 2007.08.29 15:57:00 -
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IMO there is no such thing as a victim.
You chose to log in to EVE, you chose to undock from the station and transport, or do whatever you choose to do, to loose 10Bil without taking any effective precautions to prevent a possible loss. You have simply experienced causality of your own chosen actions.
You chose to play this game, for the purpose of entertainment. You were aware / made aware that anything you amass in this virtual world have no coherence or true value in the real world. All the time that you have spent playing this game have no value other then simply providing entertainment.
You chose to play a game against other players on a level playing field, with a set of rules that is accepted by all players when the click the connect button - and we all accept, and is aware of the fact, that we can loose the game (and our ships) at any point in time.
You have not only lost the battle, but the war as well.
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SloBones
Sicarri Covenant
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Posted - 2007.08.29 22:46:00 -
[225]
Originally by: Captian Internet
Originally by: H3ndrix PvP in eve is consensual, you consent to it everytime you log in
Every time you press undock actually
that is until CCP adds the inside station fighting...
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techzer0
IDLE GUNS
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Posted - 2007.08.29 23:59:00 -
[226]
Originally by: Ildryn
Originally by: techzer0
Originally by: Ildryn Stop the High Sec whining....remove Concord for a month...
^^First person on my gank list if that happened
Run a search and come get me where i am concord doesnt exist
Nope, just bob hacks
This thread is like every other one, then someone whines that they lost 10bil and their RL is ruined... umm.. what? Stop paying the $14.95 a month and put it in a savings account if that's your argument... The undock button is caution colors for a reason ____________________ Hi. I'm not an alt :) |
Kejsar Brutus
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.08.30 00:30:00 -
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Sorry to go a bit off-topic, but I have to. Honestly. Because...
Originally by: Radar Rat
Theres a major differance between eve and other mmo's ..
other mmo's try to make you feel special, they tell you that you are a hero and attempt to make you feel good about yourself..., eve.. kicks you and beats you and asks you.. 'what makes you special, what makes you better than everyone else ?..' prove that you are better than other players..
Unlike other mmo's if you are successful in eve it's not because the game is holding your hand, it's because you've earned it, it's because you ARE better than others..
and the day CCP change that, is the day i quit..
this might be the best explanation of EVE I have ever heard. Hats off mate, you just put words to what I've been feeling but have been unable to explain Thanks
Minmatar ships make chopsticks look like a technological marvel. |
Flinx Evenstar
Minmatar Spartan Industries Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2007.08.30 00:45:00 -
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Edited by: Flinx Evenstar on 30/08/2007 00:45:47
Originally by: Zenobite
As far as I can tell our fearless anti-pirate has been on the killmail for 1 drake and he only got that cause it looks like they both got blobed. Klepto have got him a few times, and hes seems pretty good at getting podded to.
well at least he is trying. One is more than I would have guessed
The quote above me by Radar Rat..that is spot on mate
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Kumq uat
Gallente Round Table Enterprises Eastern Star Federation
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Posted - 2007.08.30 02:08:00 -
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Edited by: Kumq uat on 30/08/2007 02:09:23 Might I recommend the game X3? Excellent game where you can trade to your hearts content. Oh wait, there are pirates in there too!
Ummm, Barbies Playhouse is a nice game...
www.eve-pirate.com author and goat molestor.
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JonnyWarhawk
Oberon Incorporated Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.08.30 08:17:00 -
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Welcome to FFA PvP. The fact that it is unsafe makes this game fun. Just because you got unlucky doesn't mean they should change something that is an incredibly successful implementation. - - -
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Kaian Voskhod
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Posted - 2007.08.30 08:46:00 -
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Edited by: Kaian Voskhod on 30/08/2007 08:50:15 Edited by: Kaian Voskhod on 30/08/2007 08:47:14 I used to suicide gank some shuttles or rookies that transport billions in their cargo hold.
And you know what? I hate farming like a fu***g 0.0 zombie, i prefer stealing Isk from your assets. That's quicker... And when someone tell me in private "Youre an as***ole, i will petition ccp you moth*** fu***r. I have lost all my wallet !!! " ... This is priceless .
"Mhhh Implants Mhhh salvage materials Omg Bpo !!!" Better than a dread guristas battle ship right ? =)If you want quick money, quit 0.0, tht's only for no lifes. Use alts to do the dirty job and trash 'em when theyr SS is too low. With the money, buy better characters, declare war to ransom or to kill. No matter...
Now! Well, i must say that i am quiting eve... I am just tired of this game. I played it for 6 months with great fun, earned billions and billions, changed my char many times so i have now 40M sp... And this game is just boring. Everything takes too much time... I have a life to lead ! You see, i haven't waited for ccp or your quitting.
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Arekhon
Mutually Assured Distraction
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Posted - 2007.08.30 09:01:00 -
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holy crap
I can't believe this thread is still going.... didn't the guy quit already? or is his tourettes fit over with and he is better now
"Where are you guys going in your battleships?" "We are going to camp in Amamake; kill 500 carebears and 1 NPC" "Why are you gonna kill an NPC?" "See, nobody cares about the carebears!" [BEES] |
Kaian Voskhod
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Posted - 2007.08.30 09:15:00 -
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Edited by: Kaian Voskhod on 30/08/2007 09:17:11 Ah and the reciepe ! A noob can do this
You will need
- a friend, an alt with a fast looting/scanning ship
- a thrasher with 7 * 280mm, sensor boosters and gyrostabs in low slot. You can use faction ammo. 1 ammo in each gun is far enough.
- a shortcut maker to fire all your guns at the same time (F1 to F7).
- luck.
How to:
Camp gates on traderoutes beetween Jita & Hubs, then scan frigs/rookie/shuttles & lovely interceptors.
For interceptors i suggest a team of 3-4 thrashers. Interceptors are quite interesting because this is THE speed afk trading ship. Usefull for trading implants and such expansives things.
Scan cargo of ships approaching the gates with autopilot, when something interesting is spotted: shoot !
If the interceptor pass the gate before you shoot, don't hesitate to pursuit him. He is in autopilot...
MAKES carebears whine... But also nber ganking roxxors (the better). I love 'em saying "comme in 0.0 blah blah blah, kill you blah blah blah"...
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Wision
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Posted - 2007.08.30 16:42:00 -
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See i read some of your posts and they seem a little boring so i skiped to the last page and the post there was still about flaming cearbears , iam a cearbear if tryed pvp and didnt enjoy waisting haulers and other newbies in highsec, lowsec, 0.0 space, deadspace. I basickly tryed everything, what i have learned is that no matter how smart og how expensive your sh!t is it still gets blown up at the end of the day...
What i like about being in lowsec is that you can go and avenge your losses what i dont like about having a hauler blown up and looted in high sec is that you cannot avenge it.. please explain to me what Joy any PVP fellar gets out of blowing up peoples Ships without them comming after you because there not allowed to? .. I know killrights YAY it so comes that i lost an alt with a hauler filled with "Civilian miners" the guy that pop'ed it got waisted by 'Concordoken' afcourse and his alt that looted it got away with my money.. so now MY alt has killrights on "Your" main and i cant Avenge my loss with my actual main...
Yet you speak of eve as a Reality based game where you have to make a living for yourself and that the game dosnt make you feel any better then what you make for yourself, like other MMO games tend to do, but what other game dosnt let you avenge a loss? and btw dont compare eve to other game and tell people to go there, there arnt any other games around that is ANYWHERE near as complex and where the players actions has so big influence on the gameplay in such a high persentige as EVE, and i know you all are going to spamm me with stuff like , Why dont you tank your ship so it dosnt get pop'ed and why dont you play another game, why dont you ... thats just like telling all the easy kills to go away - when its all the easy kills to leav the game, and o what great pirat you are killing a lille girl with your big bazooka insted of trying to squash the Navy Seal standing next to hear (i got carried away i would have killed them both just as your killing eveything around you as we speak)
Anyways PVP wouldnt exist without the cearbears strugeling to build your ships and loot your Named Scrambles from Missions Rats in the first place...
I just dont see the point in Me stealing YOUR RL car giving the keys to a friend wich makes away with the car without you ever getting it back ..
and yes go ahead, i will be expecting a post about pvp not being fair ;) terorism isnt fair ither but atleast we have gun crazy people like bush to give alittle back onces in a while..
Looking farward to all your "love letters in my EVEmailbox" <3 <3 <3 <3
and all you cearbears cheer up its just a game... Ships are cheap - friends arnt!
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Shi Lang
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Posted - 2007.08.30 16:56:00 -
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my only problem with hisec pirating is when greifers target me specifically in retaliation for blowing up their ferox. I have several accounts where I can somewhat securely mine in peace, and i udnerstand how people want to be part of the game but are utterly demoralized for a few secnd of vulnerability lose months of work and effort, I think whats best in that case is to calm down and join the corp Bio Users as were recruiting and accept everyone :)
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar Sicarri Covenant
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Posted - 2007.08.30 17:12:00 -
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Edited by: Surfin''s PlunderBunny on 30/08/2007 17:12:51
Originally by: Shi Lang my only problem with hisec pirating is when greifers target me specifically in retaliation for blowing up their ferox.
uhhh... what?
Tic Toc Tic Toc , time is ticking ~Liz Kali
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Zaqar
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Posted - 2007.08.30 17:22:00 -
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Originally by: Wision Anyways PVP wouldnt exist without the cearbears strugeling to build your ships and loot your Named Scrambles from Missions Rats in the first place...
Because no pvpers run industrial operations as well, right?
Besides, piloting a hulk doesn't make you a carebear - losing your 10b hauler in empire then making a whine thread in C&P does.
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hamburger helper
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Posted - 2007.08.30 17:32:00 -
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Highsec yarring has been a regular part of eve for as long as eve has existed.
Even wit the loss of your 6 accounts, Eve will still have gained any number of dozens of account in the same time period.
They are making cash hand-over-fist with the game as it is REGARDLESS of a few carebears threatening to leave (most of whom will be back in the game in under a week anyways).
Now explian to me why CCP would change such a fundamental component of gameplay that certainly seems to earn them many millions of dollars a year to satisfy the few who complain?
"Oh NOES we lost your 15$!! I wonder if the other 3.7 MILLION dollars we make this month will cover it?"
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Wision
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Posted - 2007.08.30 17:40:00 -
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no being able to get revenge makes it personal ;)
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Baaldor
Caldari Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.08.30 17:45:00 -
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Originally by: Wision no being able to get revenge makes it personal ;)
Then fly with your main. Not your alt.
THE PRIVIOUS VIEWS AND STATEMENTS DO NOT REPRESENT AND OR SUPPORTED BY THE MANY VOICES IN MY HEAD. |
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Kazowie
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Posted - 2007.08.30 18:25:00 -
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This thread has been very useful. I now have a list of people to gank, and a list of people that will gank me if given the chance.
btw, do all the anti pvp whiners petition ccp when they're ships get blown up by npcs? "that gosh darned eom imp ruined my gaming experiance by shooting at me when I wanted to mine!!"
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Commodore Andrews
Golden Goose Inc
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Posted - 2007.08.30 18:26:00 -
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Edited by: Commodore Andrews on 30/08/2007 18:27:38 What was it that he lost lol? A hauler, or did his Uber bs get loftyed?
"Discussing moderation is a violation of the forum rules." <--- OMGWTF N4ZIS!!! Who Does That? lol
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MASTER SMAMMAH
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Posted - 2007.08.30 19:09:00 -
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Hey FLinx, I tried 1v1 with you and you were AFK. How about next time I'm on I'll convo you?
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Andreea Void
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Posted - 2007.08.31 08:48:00 -
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High sec pirating exist only because ppl are stupid .In last months CCP made a lot of things to stop high sec pirating .
1. elite indy's 2. INSTAS 3. Overpowered Concord
but to continue traveling in high sec on autopilot in a tech I indy with no fitting and 1 bil in cargo , this is stupid and trust me only stupid ppl die in high sec .
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T Nex
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Posted - 2007.08.31 10:15:00 -
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Originally by: Desolacer a. It makes people unregister b. It makes people tell other people to unregister.
CCP, today you have lost 6 people from your subscription list. Not because of how dynamic your game is, but because the people who like to play your game as a hobby are the victims of your own failure to make high sector a secure environment for players.
The more people get ganked in high sec. The more they'll quit.
1.- Dont throw the fault to CCP about your fault. You have elite indys, warp to 0km, wcs, inertias, .... ++what more you want??
2.- Stop crying. Learn the lesson for next time. Its easy dont recognize our faults, and blaming CCP, but isnt CCP fault. Sure you had petitioned it, so i hope you dont get the reimbursement. Let me reference the Darwin theory is happening here and this is an example. Some people are going to adapt to the game, and only the most stregthest are going to survive.
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Arexu Hukenshinara
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Posted - 2007.08.31 20:19:00 -
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While I dont condone any action that would force players to play this game, I dont see you trying to back up the claims of six people leaving the game, not at all. It starts to make me wonder if you and six other accounts have been canceled that YOU own or if it's actually six other people who left the game?
You dont even show the people what you lost and any proof (chatlogs, screenshots..) of said players saying they are leaving the game or what items you have lost.
I may have left World of Warcraft and I know their terms may not fit here, but honestly there is one quote that fits this thread all too well: Screenshot or it never happened.
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lyrenna
Caldari The Renaissance The Makhai
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Posted - 2007.08.31 20:42:00 -
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>>>>this way
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lyrenna
Caldari The Renaissance The Makhai
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Posted - 2007.08.31 20:49:00 -
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high sec piracy is realy fine, i was a carebear, i mean realy big carebear...but after a suicide attack in high sec everything got changed well i felt to dark side abit not to dark mostly gray but hell yeah its opened whole new face of eve to me and no i am not hesitating about it.
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Vasili vonHolst
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Posted - 2007.08.31 20:52:00 -
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What was it that he lost lol? A hauler, or did his Uber bs get loftyed?
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The Hooch
Minmatar Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.01 02:05:00 -
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Originally by: Desolacer a. It makes people unregister b. It makes people tell other people to unregister.
CCP, today you have lost 6 people from your subscription list. Not because of how dynamic your game is, but because the people who like to play your game as a hobby are the victims of your own failure to make high sector a secure environment for players.
The more people get ganked in high sec. The more they'll quit.
You know I said that myself about 4 years ago when the game was 7000, now as I login it is almost 30,000. Lets hope they lose you soon.
oh, I forgot...boohoohooo, please go play WoW now.
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar Sicarri Covenant
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Posted - 2007.09.01 07:41:00 -
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Originally by: lyrenna high sec piracy is realy fine, i was a carebear, i mean realy big carebear...but after a suicide attack in high sec everything got changed well i felt to dark side abit not to dark mostly gray but hell yeah its opened whole new face of eve to me and no i am not hesitating about it.
Gray is the best color... the lines are so blurred sometimes I don't even know if it's piracy or simply business
Tic Toc Tic Toc , time is ticking ~Liz Kali
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Kumq uat
Gallente Round Table Enterprises Eastern Star Federation
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Posted - 2007.09.01 09:03:00 -
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CCP! I have 183 friends with 3 accounts each who will quit in protest too! FIX IT! www.eve-pirate.com author and goat molestor.
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Raynes Orbis
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Posted - 2007.09.01 09:33:00 -
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At the OP: if you dont like to end up shot to pieces, try a game like Maplestory. Playerbase is like 8-13 years old, everything looks warm and fuzzy and you never ever have to worry about dying at the hands of another player in so called safer regions.
Now go grab your sleepdoll and cuddle up behind that wondeful game.
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Digital War
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Posted - 2007.09.01 18:36:00 -
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Originally by: Desolacer None of you seem to get the fact that some people cannot be in large corps and just want to be left alone and solo without disturbing anyone.
Firstly Uninstall Eve. Its an MMO Means you will play with people wether you like it or not. Clearly not for those people.
Secondly install something like X3 since its single player and then you wont get disturbed except by NPCS. And they have infinite patience with your complaints.
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Lana Bird
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Posted - 2007.09.02 01:02:00 -
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Originally by: Vasili vonHolst What was it that he lost lol? A hauler, or did his Uber bs get loftyed?
His virginity?
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M15510NMaN000101
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2007.09.02 10:13:00 -
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Originally by: Desolacer Edited by: Desolacer on 26/08/2007 18:14:37 blah blah all you want but it is CCP's problem because the more people pirate in high sec, probability of them quitting is 90% more.
every person lost is 14$ out of ccp's pocket.
So its not an ingame thing you can boast about not being 100% secure about, its the reputation your games gonna get for
a. losing the people who love the game. b. turning the people who love the game against them. c. ruining friendships between the people who play the game irl.
And at one point, because you have such a "hardcore" game, you're going to realise, you're the one sitting at the desk wasting your life away taking away people's hard earned work, only to sell your character after a few years on ebay for a few 100$ which you havnt earned.
in other words, you're scum in game and you're scum irl.
yep, each and every ganker is scum irl. waa waa all you want.
BTW, there are two sides to every story. EvE isn't for everyone and if you don't like it then you shouldn't be apart of it. The option you complain about is what brings people TO EVE as well. So, now that you have gotten your imperative waa waa out of the way I think you should consider that you aren't the only one that feels this way but there is a vast majority that don't. Get over it or don't play.
Not personally attacking you or anyone else with these thoughts, honestly that is one thing that makes EVE different from almost all other MMO's. It's not for everyone but, I think CCP does well with the game mechanics as it is. BTW, what about if your corp got war-dec'd? Would you quit because of it? If so, then you shouldn't be playing either. There are ways around everything in the game you just have to push at it.
Come to the dark side it's fun...
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DarkXenon
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Posted - 2007.09.02 10:29:00 -
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Originally by: Radar Rat
Theres a major differance between eve and other mmo's ..
other mmo's try to make you feel special, they tell you that you are a hero and attempt to make you feel good about yourself..., eve.. kicks you and beats you and asks you.. 'what makes you special, what makes you better than everyone else ?..' prove that you are better than other players..
BEST STATMENT EVER
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Hobbledehoy
The Scope
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Posted - 2007.09.03 05:39:00 -
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Originally by: Desolacer a. It makes people unregister b. It makes people tell other people to unregister.
CCP, today you have lost 6 people from your subscription list. Not because of how dynamic your game is, but because the people who like to play your game as a hobby are the victims of your own failure to make high sector a secure environment for players.
The more people get ganked in high sec. The more they'll quit.
Even 0.0 is too safe IMO between warp to zero and the ability to logoffski...
DISCLAIMER: I am not a pirate. I do not condone anti-pirate actions nor assistance of carebears. I am a proud supporter of the stop-carebears-from-greiving-our-wallets foundation. |
Othya
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Posted - 2007.09.03 11:25:00 -
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Edited by: Othya on 03/09/2007 11:26:13 MMOs are social games. Social games = real people. Real world = people who generally want to hurt you for no good reason, but are bound by social constraints (they say killing my neighbour and looting his home is illegal ) Logically MMOs = mean people. (simple enough for you, or should i draw you a sketch to further illustrate this simple conclusion? ).
Eve, in it's social structure simulates the real life in many ways. And what would get you in prison, or at least a restraining order in real life, does but little in the little Eve simulator. So it comes as a natural consequence that I, aswell as many others, have taken up piratry, and use any means necessary to get my hands on valuable loot, or just to ruin some poor bastards way.
Now, regarding your argument, that u're either a lone wolf: Assuming other peope won't hurt you just because u're a good person, is like assuming a raging bull won't charge at you, just because you're a vegetarian.
in other words: noone gives a baby caracal's rear thruster about you or your experience. All we look for is to better our experience, and if that implies the misery of some poor other player, so be it.
Want to up your experience? Stop whinig, grow some b4lls to fill those loose pants of yours, start using that God-given-too-long-unused-chunk-of-meat u'd like to call a brain (though some experts in the domain might disagree), play smart and u might just enjoy this wonderful game.
Instead of whining, use the time to better your play.
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G0rF
Gallente The Causality Electus Matari
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Posted - 2007.09.11 11:58:00 -
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Originally by: Roosterbrood You have simply experienced causality of your own chosen actions.
The Causality Corporation officially denies this allegation.
We never heard of this individual before this epic thread.
@ OP: You're in the wrong game. Try X3.
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Vrabac
Amarr BALKAN EXPRESS
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Posted - 2007.09.11 12:35:00 -
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Originally by: Othya Edited by: Othya on 03/09/2007 11:26:13 MMOs are social games. Social games = real people. Real world = people who generally want to hurt you for no good reason, but are bound by social constraints (they say killing my neighbour and looting his home is illegal ) Logically MMOs = mean people. (simple enough for you, or should i draw you a sketch to further illustrate this simple conclusion? ).
Eve, in it's social structure simulates the real life in many ways. And what would get you in prison, or at least a restraining order in real life, does but little in the little Eve simulator. So it comes as a natural consequence that I, aswell as many others, have taken up piratry, and use any means necessary to get my hands on valuable loot, or just to ruin some poor bastards way.
Now, regarding your argument, that u're either a lone wolf: Assuming other peope won't hurt you just because u're a good person, is like assuming a raging bull won't charge at you, just because you're a vegetarian.
in other words: noone gives a baby caracal's rear thruster about you or your experience. All we look for is to better our experience, and if that implies the misery of some poor other player, so be it.
Want to up your experience? Stop whinig, grow some b4lls to fill those loose pants of yours, start using that God-given-too-long-unused-chunk-of-meat u'd like to call a brain (though some experts in the domain might disagree), play smart and u might just enjoy this wonderful game.
Instead of whining, use the time to better your play.
So well said, even if a bit too agressive.
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Ix Ugnot
Mineral Investment Bank Corporation
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Posted - 2007.09.11 20:05:00 -
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I have heard quite a few comments about the "ever increasing numbers of new players", does anyone have recent numbers to support a static, increasing or decreasing number of players. I am clearly looking for data showing a breakdown of paying players and not including GTC based accounts, etc?
Reading comments by players is irrelevant, whats the health of the player base?
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SpankMeElmo
Foundation R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.09.11 20:14:00 -
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There's a lot fewer scum on Sisi. Go mine over there. Win-Win solution, eh?
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Rudy Metallo
The Phoenix Rising FreeFall Securities
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Posted - 2007.09.11 20:46:00 -
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Originally by: Desolacer Edited by: Desolacer on 26/08/2007 18:14:37 blah blah all you want but it is CCP's problem because the more people pirate in high sec, probability of them quitting is 90% more.
every person lost is 14$ out of ccp's pocket.
So its not an ingame thing you can boast about not being 100% secure about, its the reputation your games gonna get for
a. losing the people who love the game. b. turning the people who love the game against them. c. ruining friendships between the people who play the game irl.
And at one point, because you have such a "hardcore" game, you're going to realise, you're the one sitting at the desk wasting your life away taking away people's hard earned work, only to sell your character after a few years on ebay for a few 100$ which you havnt earned.
in other words, you're scum in game and you're scum irl.
yep, each and every ganker is scum irl. waa waa all you want.
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Ikoras
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Posted - 2007.09.11 22:47:00 -
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This topic and the op make me giggle. I am fairly new to the game. But one of the very few things I know is yes, you're not 100% safe anywhere in game. If you don't want to get killed in high sec then there is really only 2 ways to go about it.
Option #1 Don't auto, Be aware of your surroundings and never put all your eggs in one basket Option #2 Subscribe to WoW or some other MMO because, Eve is clearly not for you.
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Stephannus Calimben
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Posted - 2007.09.11 22:54:00 -
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lol, everyone search your killboards for this guy, i wanna see what he lost
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Deadious
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Posted - 2007.09.14 07:44:00 -
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Quote: Edited by: Desolacer on 26/08/2007 18:14:37 blah blah all you want but it is CCP's problem because the more people pirate in high sec, probability of them quitting is 90% more.
every person lost is 14$ out of ccp's pocket.
So its not an ingame thing you can boast about not being 100% secure about, its the reputation your games gonna get for
a. losing the people who love the game. b. turning the people who love the game against them. c. ruining friendships between the people who play the game irl.
And at one point, because you have such a "hardcore" game, you're going to realise, you're the one sitting at the desk wasting your life away taking away people's hard earned work, only to sell your character after a few years on ebay for a few 100$ which you havnt earned.
in other words, you're scum in game and you're scum irl.
yep, each and every ganker is scum irl. waa waa all you want.
Yeah EVE isnt for everyone lol, dont leave... to make the solution u sometimes need to esculate the problem. Wasnt there a time when there was no concord???
Oh I totally agree, but my solution to fix this problem is to encourage all players to kill boring missions and noobs off, no noobs no problems Also i wonder how long before games like this get rated as training grounds for RL incidents.
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Adam Rauhar
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Posted - 2007.09.14 08:17:00 -
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I didnt read it all... too many pages. But Can I have your stuff?
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Arekhon
Mutually Assured Distraction
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Posted - 2007.09.14 08:33:00 -
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Originally by: Deadious
Yeah EVE isnt for everyone lol, dont leave... to make the solution u sometimes need to esculate the problem. Wasnt there a time when there was no concord???
Oh I totally agree, but my solution to fix this problem is to encourage all players to kill boring missions and noobs off, no noobs no problems Also i wonder how long before games like this get rated as training grounds for RL incidents.
why this thread was almost gone, but nooooooo
"Where are you guys going in your battleships?" "We are going to camp in Amamake; kill 500 carebears and 1 NPC" "Why are you gonna kill an NPC?" "See, nobody cares about the carebears!" [BEES] |
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