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Deadly Morph
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Posted - 2007.08.27 11:20:00 -
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From what I know a gtc was about 100 mill
Most people cant afford stupid pricings like 180 mill and 200 mill We want to play the game and have fun not play to just make more to play to make more to work work work its no fun...
It really sucks thinking of how much isk u have used on gtc and for people like me its the only form of paying for my account
Thnx
Deadly Morph
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000Hunter000
Gallente Magners Marauders
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Posted - 2007.08.27 11:27:00 -
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well sadly for u i think if gtc's would get too cheap then ccp would just do away with them, ccp might be a nice company but there in it for the RL money as well, if everybody could get cheap gtc's nobody would pay for their account anymore.
having said that it would prolly stabilize cuz people selling gtc's would realise it would be cheaper for them to get gtc's for isk also so would stop selling them, so less suppliers so prices of gtc's would increase again.
all in all it is just a question of supply and demand, some people use gtc's to get quick and 'free' isk in a short time.
impo if i had my way selling gtc's for isk would be removed entirely, it's just too easy if u have a phat RL wallet to get a headstart that way, buy a few gtc's sell them ingame for iskies and presto, u win eve.
CCP, let us pay the online shop with Direct Debit!!! Magners is now recruiting, evemail me or Dagazbo ingame.
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Asmosis
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Posted - 2007.08.27 12:18:00 -
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Originally by: 000Hunter000 if everybody could get cheap gtc's nobody would pay for their account anymore.
I think you missed the ball entirely on this one. It really doesnt matter who is buying the GTC for the account, whether its the owner or an ISK buyer. The point is the account is being paid for by SOMEONE. More accounts paid for = more real players = more revenue (and better game experience since a crowded pvp game is better than a sparse one).
If every single player bought GTC's for 5mil a piece CCP is still getting the same revenue as before because those GTC's had to come from somewhere...
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2007.08.27 12:26:00 -
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So why use GTC's in the first place? 15 bucks a month is not a lot of money...
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Originally by: CCP Wrangler You're not supposed to feel like you're logging in to a happy, happy, fluffy, fluffy lala land filled with fun and adventures, thats what hello kitty online is for.
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Jaketh Ivanes
Amarr Do Or Die And Live Or Try
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Posted - 2007.08.27 12:28:00 -
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I don't think CCP can regulate the ISK price on GTC. They can only regulated the RL price on them. If I understand correctly, I can buy a GTC for ú15 (examploary) and sell it in EvE for 200 mill. If a lot of people put GTC on the market, I would not sell my GTC in a matter of hours, so I would decrease my price to make sure the card got sold. The others would match my offer to make sure theirs are sold. If my GTC was sold in a matter of minutes, I would increase my prices, since people seems to hunger for them and there would always be someone with more ISK than the other. Others would follow suit, as it doesn't make sense selling GTC's for 100mill when everyone else are selling for 200mill.
So, start getting people to buy and sell GTC's, and the price will get lower. Or increase you own ISK income
Hope it makes some sense :)
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Barbarellas Daughter
Lonely Barbarella
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Posted - 2007.08.27 12:33:00 -
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Originally by: Jim McGregor
So why use GTC's in the first place? 15 bucks a month is not a lot of money...
this.
also: lol. find someone who sells them cheaper and you will get them cheaper. this is market. ____________________________________________
Originally by: Marduk Felzhen You have an amazing cleavage, except you have no arms :(
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Cornucopian
Gallente Dutch Omega United Freemen Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.27 12:39:00 -
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Edited by: Cornucopian on 27/08/2007 12:41:37 Edited by: Cornucopian on 27/08/2007 12:39:57
Originally by: Jim McGregor
So why use GTC's in the first place? 15 bucks a month is not a lot of money...
Think about it: 1 account = 3 charachters. 1 main, 1 alt for industry, science, manu. 1 macro alt for automining and/or macromissioning (to pay for GTCs) = free eve + extra money for PvP.
I bet HUNDREDS of players do this.
day to day eve:
Get up. set your macro alt. setup jobs with manu alt. go to work.
Come back from work. KA-CHING from macro alt. LEWT and SHIPZ from manu alt.
PVP, explo, whatnot with main. go to bed.
rinse and repeat. ----------------------------------------------- "post with your main. delete your alt, you sad little exploiting metagamer." |
Lazuran
Gallente Time And ISK Sink Corporation
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Posted - 2007.08.27 12:46:00 -
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Originally by: Cornucopian
I bet HUNDREDS of players do this.
day to day eve:
Get up. set your macro alt. setup jobs with manu alt. go to work.
Come back from work. KA-CHING from macro alt. LEWT and SHIPZ from manu alt.
PVP, explo, whatnot with main. go to bed.
rinse and repeat.
Does that count as a confession?
isn't it funny how some people advocate both GTC<=>ISK trades and EVE being superior due to its cruelty and costly losses, when they use the former to circumvent the latter?
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2007.08.27 12:47:00 -
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Yeah, I guess it makes more sense in that scenario. Paying 45 bucks every month is a bit steep.
What if ccp would have a discount on additional accounts from the same person (up to, perhaps 3 of them)? Lets say 10 bucks for the second account, 5 for the third?
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Originally by: CCP Wrangler You're not supposed to feel like you're logging in to a happy, happy, fluffy, fluffy lala land filled with fun and adventures, thats what hello kitty online is for.
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Valan
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Posted - 2007.08.27 12:49:00 -
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Originally by: Cornucopian Edited by: Cornucopian on 27/08/2007 12:41:37 Edited by: Cornucopian on 27/08/2007 12:39:57
Originally by: Jim McGregor
So why use GTC's in the first place? 15 bucks a month is not a lot of money...
Think about it: 1 account = 3 charachters. 1 main, 1 alt for industry, science, manu. 1 macro alt for automining and/or macromissioning (to pay for GTCs) = free eve + extra money for PvP.
I bet HUNDREDS of players do this.
day to day eve:
Get up. set your macro alt. setup jobs with manu alt. go to work.
Come back from work. KA-CHING from macro alt. LEWT and SHIPZ from manu alt.
PVP, explo, whatnot with main. go to bed.
rinse and repeat.
Yeh there are hundreds of players breaking the EULA.
/start sig I love old characters that post 'I've beeen playing the game three years' when I know their account has been sold on. /end sig |
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Barbarellas Daughter
Lonely Barbarella
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Posted - 2007.08.27 12:49:00 -
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Originally by: Jim McGregor
Yeah, I guess it makes more sense in that scenario. Paying 45 bucks every month is a bit steep.
What if ccp would have a discount on additional accounts from the same person (up to, perhaps 3 of them)? Lets say 10 bucks for the second account, 5 for the third?
then the 4th for free?
imo it should be the other way: 15 for the 1st, 20 for 2nd etc. but as they cant control who has how many accounts its useless to think about... ____________________________________________
Originally by: Marduk Felzhen You have an amazing cleavage, except you have no arms :(
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An Anarchyyt
Gallente Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2007.08.27 12:53:00 -
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Originally by: Jim McGregor
Yeah, I guess it makes more sense in that scenario. Paying 45 bucks every month is a bit steep.
What if ccp would have a discount on additional accounts from the same person (up to, perhaps 3 of them)? Lets say 10 bucks for the second account, 5 for the third?
As far as I am concerned, why would you be paying $45/month if you couldn't afford it? Because contrary to what people say, having more than one account is not a necessity to play this game.
Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2007.08.27 12:56:00 -
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Edited by: Jim McGregor on 27/08/2007 12:57:02
Originally by: An Anarchyyt
Originally by: Jim McGregor
Yeah, I guess it makes more sense in that scenario. Paying 45 bucks every month is a bit steep.
What if ccp would have a discount on additional accounts from the same person (up to, perhaps 3 of them)? Lets say 10 bucks for the second account, 5 for the third?
As far as I am concerned, why would you be paying $45/month if you couldn't afford it? Because contrary to what people say, having more than one account is not a necessity to play this game.
I know, just figured it would make the demand for GTC's drop quite a bit. I would rather pay 25 bucks per month for 2 accounts instead of having one account making hundreds of millions of isk to pay for the second account. Making isk is kind of boring, and I dont really have the time to grind. :)
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Originally by: CCP Wrangler You're not supposed to feel like you're logging in to a happy, happy, fluffy, fluffy lala land filled with fun and adventures, thats what hello kitty online is for.
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Cornucopian
Gallente Dutch Omega United Freemen Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.27 12:58:00 -
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Edited by: Cornucopian on 27/08/2007 13:00:29
Originally by: Lazuran
Originally by: Cornucopian
I bet HUNDREDS of players do this.
day to day eve:
Get up. set your macro alt. setup jobs with manu alt. go to work.
Come back from work. KA-CHING from macro alt. LEWT and SHIPZ from manu alt.
PVP, explo, whatnot with main. go to bed.
rinse and repeat.
Does that count as a confession?
of course it doesn't. I just realized it. your statement at the bottom is a definite QFT though. IMHO the whole business of ALTS and multiple accounts should be banished. did you READ my sig?
edit: ah, it wasnt the bottom statement, it was your SIG. QFT nonetheless though. TBH, I lost my t2 fitted rax the other day, and it hurt like a mother. Seems nasty to me that people by faction fitted BS as a matter of regular course due to GTC sales.
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DubanFP
Caldari Four Rings D-L
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Posted - 2007.08.27 13:04:00 -
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Edited by: DubanFP on 27/08/2007 13:05:05 Per month it's not a lot, but that's a rather narrow view. Per year it's $180 per account. A lot of people use multiple accounts. Even 3 accounts is $540 per year which is quite a bit for some people. Honestly GTCs just make things a whole lot easier.
<--College student so cash is a bit tight for me atm. ISK lets me keep playing without making things difficult. ___________
Xanstin> Your sig is full of really, really crap self quotes.
DubanFP> Happy now that i have your quote included? |
Heikki
Gallente Wreckless Abandon Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.08.27 13:16:00 -
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Originally by: Deadly Morph We want to play the game and have fun not play to just make more to play to make more to work work work its no fun
Yeah, I agree we ought to be able to play without contributing.
Perhaps have Iceland and England to make law that keeping Eve up and maintained is mandatory. Or you had some other plan of keeping Eve online?
By buying GTCs you are trading your ingame 'work' for others RL money. Even suggesting that it should use some fixed mandatory price, like say 1 exotic dancer per month, sounds quite a bit selfish.
-Lasse who plays only the games he can affod
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Malcanis
High4Life
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Posted - 2007.08.27 13:48:00 -
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Originally by: Deadly Morph From what I know a gtc was about 100 mill
Most people cant afford stupid pricings like 180 mill and 200 mill We want to play the game and have fun not play to just make more to play to make more to work work work its no fun...
It really sucks thinking of how much isk u have used on gtc and for people like me its the only form of paying for my account
Thnx
Deadly Morph
The price is set by players, not by CCP.
You may find that it is rather more time-effective to get a paper round or wash a few cars to get the $40 required to buy a 90-day GTC than it is to grind for ISK for the 400M.
CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that. |
Nocturnal Avenger
The Ankou The Reckoning.
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Posted - 2007.08.27 15:09:00 -
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Originally by: Jaketh Ivanes I don't think CCP can regulate the ISK price on GTC.
CCP could not care less if the isk price on a 90 day GTC is 1 isk. The GTC seller still has to pay CCP about USD 15.
GTC price is priced using demand for isk and supply of GTC.
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Niccolado Starwalker
Shadow Templars
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Posted - 2007.08.27 16:26:00 -
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Originally by: Deadly Morph From what I know a gtc was about 100 mill
Most people cant afford stupid pricings like 180 mill and 200 mill We want to play the game and have fun not play to just make more to play to make more to work work work its no fun...
It really sucks thinking of how much isk u have used on gtc and for people like me its the only form of paying for my account
Thnx
Deadly Morph
Then buy your own GTC then from your local store? Or maybe get a subscription? Those prices are regulated, and reccomended!
Also, the price for a 90 day gtc is 400 mill (aprox 4,4 mill isk a day), instead of the 180 mill you often pay for a 30 day gtc (aprox 6 mill isk a day), so its not that the players aint giving discounts either
Originally by: Splagada you're on eve-o, just go for blunt insults and random crap, please!
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Pan Crastus
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.08.27 17:19:00 -
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Originally by: Nocturnal Avenger
GTC price is priced using demand for isk and supply of GTC.
Indirectly, it also depends on the measures CCP takes against illegal ISK sales, which might be the main reason why GTCs are more expensive now.
EVE Online: a cold, cruel world where (RL-)rich people replace their losses with GTCs sold to poor students who need to farm ISK to afford their play time ...
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Jago Kain
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.08.27 17:21:00 -
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Originally by: Jim McGregor
So why use GTC's in the first place? 15 bucks a month is not a lot of money...
It is to me.
I'm currently unemployed and I have to watch every penny. If I couldn't buy GTC, I probably wouldn't be playing.
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Pan Crastus
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.08.27 17:23:00 -
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Originally by: Jago Kain
Originally by: Jim McGregor
So why use GTC's in the first place? 15 bucks a month is not a lot of money...
It is to me.
I'm currently unemployed and I have to watch every penny. If I couldn't buy GTC, I probably wouldn't be playing.
You lost your job because you played EVE too much, right? :-/
EVE Online: a cold, cruel world where (RL-)rich people replace their losses with GTCs sold to poor students who need to farm ISK to afford their play time ...
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