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Imperator Jora'h
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Posted - 2007.08.29 19:03:00 -
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**Likely to be all sorts of spoilers in this thread so consider yourself warned**
Basically I am asking for people's opinions on movies that you were enjoying (or maybe not even enjoying) that got totally ruined because they did something that seemed so preposterous you thought, "WTF!!??". After that the whole thing just went out the window as worthwhile in any respect.
I'll start:
Movie: Signs
Problem: We have aliens invading earth. All well and good till you see them foil an alien by closing a door. These beings have interstellar capable spaceships and a door knob befuddles them?
Ok...*maybe* get by that till the real kicker at the end.
The aliens "weak spot" is water. Huh?
Ok, so maybe we could propose an alien species for whom water is lethal. But then these aliens invade a planet that is what? 70% or more water? The aliens are harvesting humans which are also around 70% water? Forget guns, all you need to do to get away from a mean alien is spit on them or even better grab a SuperSoaker?
Thing is I was enjoying that movie then the end was such a let down.
Runner Up:
Movie: Contact Problem: The alien was her dad? What a ripoff. Ok, I know it only appeared to her that way to ease the shock of first contact or somesuch but seriously. What a ripoff after 2+ hours.
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Elliot Reid
Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades
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Posted - 2007.08.29 19:07:00 -
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For me it has to be The Devil's Advocate. When Keanu Reeves killed himself I thought what a great ending. Then it continued and negated the whole film for me. __________________________________
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2007.08.29 19:10:00 -
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Edited by: Jim McGregor on 29/08/2007 19:11:05
The Usual Suspects. The scene at the end where the cop realizes how everything really went down gives me the chills. :)
Ah... now I read your post properly. Ok, then it would have to be...from Dusk Till Dawn. Once the vampires came out, it got all silly. ---
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Imperator Jora'h
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Posted - 2007.08.29 19:12:00 -
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Originally by: Jim McGregor
The Usual Suspects. The scene at the end where the cop realizes how everything really went down gives me the chills. :)
That didn't ruin the movie. That made the movie.
My OP was only thinking of bad endings that ruined it for you but I didn't think to include endings that brought it all together (in a good way). Good addition. Post either way.
Carry on!
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Micheal Dietrich
Cynical Cartel
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Posted - 2007.08.29 19:14:00 -
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Point one. It wasn't a doorknob that stobbed the alien, it was the shelf that was partially placed in front of the door that stopped the alien. He eventually found his way out though as you see him at the end of the movie.
Point 2: And when Mel Gibson was talking to M knight in the scene just before the pantry, M knight's character stated that the aliens have been avoiding bodies of water so he kinda clues you in on that. Not to mention the daughters fixation with leaving glasses of water laying around and the things the wife said in the flashbacks. Knight builds his movies specifically to leave clues and see's who figures it out.
As for my movie I'm going with The Matrix. I like the first movie altogether (I thought the other sucked). It had a great storyline from start to finish with a ending that could mean sequal but also could be left right where it was. The only scene that bugs the hell out of me was when Neo was fighting Mr. Smith in the subway station and he gets knocked back by the stairs. He gets up and thinks about running then looks back at Mr. Smith and does a incredibly stupid dramatic pose. No matter how many times I watch the movie I always laugh at that one scene.
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Imperator Jora'h
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Posted - 2007.08.29 19:15:00 -
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I'll add another"
Movie: Blade Runner
Problem: Driving off into the pretty wooded mountains at the end. Totally undid the whole feel of the movie.
To be fair the Director's Cut got rid of that and the silly voice overs by Harrison Ford. Director's Cut is excellent. No stupid ending.
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Imperator Jora'h
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Posted - 2007.08.29 19:30:00 -
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Originally by: Micheal Dietrich Point one. It wasn't a doorknob that stobbed the alien, it was the shelf that was partially placed in front of the door that stopped the alien. He eventually found his way out though as you see him at the end of the movie.
I do not recall the shelf but more importantly I do not recall the alien even trying the doorknob only to find the door was blocked (happens in the kitchen and again in the basement).
Quote: Point 2: And when Mel Gibson was talking to M knight in the scene just before the pantry, M knight's character stated that the aliens have been avoiding bodies of water so he kinda clues you in on that. Not to mention the daughters fixation with leaving glasses of water laying around and the things the wife said in the flashbacks. Knight builds his movies specifically to leave clues and see's who figures it out.
I got all the foreshadowing. Doesn't make it less silly. Even if they stayed away from large bodies of water so what? You can walk around Los Angeles and never be bothered by the ocean. Not to mention humans are mostly water (I still chuckle remembering an alien in Star Trek:TNG whose word for humans translated into "ugly bags of mostly water"). Spit on them, pee on them, throw your beer at them...whatever.
One would think in such a place as earth where water is all around the aliens would wear spacesuits for protection.
I always thought it would have made a good scene in one of the Scary Movie movies if they had Marines raiding a local Walmart for Super Soakers. Have them face off against the alien hordes using water guns and water balloons for hand grenades.
Quote: He gets up and thinks about running then looks back at Mr. Smith and does a incredibly stupid dramatic pose. No matter how many times I watch the movie I always laugh at that one scene.
Always found that part stupidly dramatic as well and chuckle at it.
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Micheal Dietrich
Cynical Cartel
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Posted - 2007.08.29 19:37:00 -
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I will agree though with the water part. I was watching it with a friend and we could just imagine marines with guns and tanks getting owned on the field then the camera zooms to some hillbilly sitting on his proch with a case of beer and his garden hose.
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Chronus26
Gallente Team Laser Explosion Molotov Coalition
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Posted - 2007.08.29 19:39:00 -
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'The Prestige' with Christian Bale and some others - Good movie till the end. The whole film is a build up to discovering the secret to 2 versions of a magic trick, and whats the secret? A ******* cloning machine. In the 1850s. What a great plot twist that is. Not. -----
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Elliot Reid
Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades
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Posted - 2007.08.29 19:57:00 -
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Originally by: Chronus26 'The Prestige' with Christian Bale and some others - Good movie till the end. The whole film is a build up to discovering the secret to 2 versions of a magic trick, and whats the secret? A ******* cloning machine. In the 1850s. What a great plot twist that is. Not.
Yep I have to agree with this one. I do like The Prestige a lot but that was a bit stupid. __________________________________
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Imperator Jora'h
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Posted - 2007.08.29 20:02:00 -
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Originally by: Elliot Reid For me it has to be The Devil's Advocate. When Keanu Reeves killed himself I thought what a great ending. Then it continued and negated the whole film for me.
Yeah. That was pretty weak. American films seem hidebound to the idea that a movie must end on a happy note. In fact some of the best movies are the ones that allow themselves to stay dark and bleak (e.g The Departed recently or for an old one to Live and Die in L.A.).
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Sharupak
Minmatar Knights Of the Black Sun Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.08.29 20:16:00 -
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Originally by: Imperator Jora'h
Originally by: Elliot Reid For me it has to be The Devil's Advocate. When Keanu Reeves killed himself I thought what a great ending. Then it continued and negated the whole film for me.
Yeah. That was pretty weak. American films seem hidebound to the idea that a movie must end on a happy note. In fact some of the best movies are the ones that allow themselves to stay dark and bleak (e.g The Departed recently or for an old one to Live and Die in L.A.).
I wouldnt say that was a happy note. Satan had no other choice but to turn back time and try to rearrange events to make it conducive for reeves to have sex with his sister. It also makes you wonder how many times Satan had failed. _______________________________________________ RuntimeError: ChainEvent is blocking by design, but you're block trapped. You have'll have to find some alternative means to do Your Thing, dude. |
Micheal Dietrich
Cynical Cartel
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Posted - 2007.08.29 20:18:00 -
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Edited by: Micheal Dietrich on 29/08/2007 20:20:31
Originally by: Imperator Jora'h
Originally by: Elliot Reid For me it has to be The Devil's Advocate. When Keanu Reeves killed himself I thought what a great ending. Then it continued and negated the whole film for me.
Yeah. That was pretty weak. American films seem hidebound to the idea that a movie must end on a happy note. In fact some of the best movies are the ones that allow themselves to stay dark and bleak (e.g The Departed recently or for an old one to Live and Die in L.A.).
Hence why I almost never watch 'scary' movies. They've gotten to be beyond predictable. Like when the idiots of the group blatently leave a group and walk right into a dark, evil like atmosphere and start saying hello or is somebody there like 15 times. Your always left with generally 2 people, 1 male, 1 female. Then they put in some ending where you suddenly realise, OMGOOSES, that the monster or whatever isn't actually dead. Who didn't see that coming.
Then action flicks must have 50 or so explosions. It doesn't matter what time period you put it in, theres an explosion. Take the scorpion king for instance. They pack a couple bags of gunpowder around a single pillar and yet the following explosion looks like they were playing with C4 or Comp B.
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2007.08.29 20:21:00 -
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Edited by: Jim McGregor on 29/08/2007 20:26:17
Originally by: Micheal Dietrich
Originally by: Imperator Jora'h
Originally by: Elliot Reid For me it has to be The Devil's Advocate. When Keanu Reeves killed himself I thought what a great ending. Then it continued and negated the whole film for me.
Yeah. That was pretty weak. American films seem hidebound to the idea that a movie must end on a happy note. In fact some of the best movies are the ones that allow themselves to stay dark and bleak (e.g The Departed recently or for an old one to Live and Die in L.A.).
Hence why I almost never watch 'scary' movies. They've gotten to be beyond predictable. Like when the idiots of the group blatently leave a group and walk right into a dark, evil like atmosphere and start saying hello or is somebody there like 15 times. Your always left with generally 2 people, 1 male, 1 female. Then they put in some ending where you suddenly realise, OMGOOSES, that the monster or whatever isn't actually dead. Who didn't see that coming.
Yeah, but there are good ones. Stuff like Psycho, Alien or Omen (I know they are old) are really scary. The movies that you are describing are from directors with no imagination of their own. Its just copy-paste directing.
Ive often wondered if I think older movies are better because im getting older myself (im in my 30's) or if they really ARE worse than the old classics. If you're reading this and is 16, maybe you feel that todays scary movies are the best ever, and they are the ones you'll remember when you're 30 too. Maybe it just works that way.
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Micheal Dietrich
Cynical Cartel
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Posted - 2007.08.29 20:29:00 -
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Originally by: Jim McGregor Edited by: Jim McGregor on 29/08/2007 20:26:17
Originally by: Micheal Dietrich
Originally by: Imperator Jora'h
Originally by: Elliot Reid For me it has to be The Devil's Advocate. When Keanu Reeves killed himself I thought what a great ending. Then it continued and negated the whole film for me.
Yeah. That was pretty weak. American films seem hidebound to the idea that a movie must end on a happy note. In fact some of the best movies are the ones that allow themselves to stay dark and bleak (e.g The Departed recently or for an old one to Live and Die in L.A.).
Hence why I almost never watch 'scary' movies. They've gotten to be beyond predictable. Like when the idiots of the group blatently leave a group and walk right into a dark, evil like atmosphere and start saying hello or is somebody there like 15 times. Your always left with generally 2 people, 1 male, 1 female. Then they put in some ending where you suddenly realise, OMGOOSES, that the monster or whatever isn't actually dead. Who didn't see that coming.
Yeah, but there are good ones. Stuff like Psycho, Alien or Omen (I know they are old) are really scary. The movies that you are describing are from directors with no imagination of their own. Its just copy-paste directing.
Ive often wondered if I think older movies are better because im getting older myself (im in my 30's) or if they really ARE worse than the old classics. If you're reading this and is 16, maybe you feel that todays scary movies are the best ever, and they are the ones you'll remember when you're 30 too. Maybe it just works that way.
Yeah what made Alien great was the completely random loud sound that would just come out of no where or something would jump out when you LEAST expect it too instead of the dramatic music or silence trying to build a scene up.
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Sokratesz
Paradox v2.0 Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.08.29 20:29:00 -
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Die Hard 4, the part when they have the F-35 attack a moving target while its in hover-mode.
Having been in the airforce, that made me go 'zomg bull****' out loud in the cinema.
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Tarquin Tarquinius
Gallente Escorts of Eve
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Posted - 2007.08.29 20:52:00 -
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The Da Vinci code's ending was pretty dissappointing in general. They changed it from the book so that it seems the Catholic church and Opus Dei were involved in everything happening, whereas in the book they were actually trying to stop the Albino dude and were mostly in the dark about everything else.
In Star Wars Episode I, the whole space battle sequence was terrible. Bad acting all around plus a six year old blows up a capital ship by accident. "NOW THIS IS POD RACING!" So much suck. Luckily the movie was ruined long before that. ------ wait...what? |
Micheal Dietrich
Cynical Cartel
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Posted - 2007.08.29 20:56:00 -
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Originally by: Tarquin Tarquinius
In Star Wars Episode I, the whole space battle sequence was terrible. Bad acting all around plus a six year old blows up a capital ship by accident. "NOW THIS IS POD RACING!" So much suck. Luckily the movie was ruined long before that.
Who puts their ship reactor in the HANGAR BAY!
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MassonA
Caldari coracao ardente Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.08.29 21:02:00 -
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harry potter, you have flying broomsticks, owls with satnav, and words that can kill you. but a ginger kid with 2 mates? yeah
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Phiend
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Posted - 2007.08.29 21:04:00 -
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I know I'm gonna get smacked for this but: Bridge to Tarabithia. The only reason I even watched it was because the trailers made it seem like it was a Narnia or Last of the Mimsies type movie where some kid find a secret world blah blah blah.
The trailer was COMPLETE false advertisement, it made it seem like it was going to be all action packed and stuff, but it was just pure drama the entire time. Sad to say I was actually enjoying the movie... then out of ******* no where one of the main characters die... Its like this: 1 day they are in their 'made up world' havin fun then the next day the boy goes on a field trip and comes home and out of ******* no where his parents are like "she's dead" and your left sittin there like WTF?! I'm a ***** I guess bcuz I actually got sad and maybe shed a tear or two...
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DubanFP
Caldari Four Rings D-L
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Posted - 2007.08.29 21:09:00 -
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Wasn't there a show "that was actually a very serious and normal show at that" that ended with it zooming out from the hospital showing that the hospital was really a snowglobe? And in reality the ENTIRE SHOW happened in the mind of some autistic child. Dude, WTF IS WITH THAT? ___________
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Phiend
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Posted - 2007.08.29 21:13:00 -
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Originally by: DubanFP Wasn't there a show "that was actually a very serious and normal show at that" that ended with it zooming out from the hospital showing that the hospital was really a snowglobe? And in reality the ENTIRE SHOW happened in the mind of some autistic child. Dude, WTF IS WITH THAT?
Yea it was Saint Elmos Fire or somethin like that dont know if I got the name right, never watched it and glad I didnt...
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Lazaroth
Caldari Quantum Synergies YouWhat
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Posted - 2007.08.29 21:35:00 -
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Alien 4: when that stupid white alien hybrid comes out and kills it's mother?!?! WTF!!
Laz
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Derovius Vaden
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Posted - 2007.08.29 22:20:00 -
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Originally by: Lazaroth Alien 4: when that stupid white alien hybrid comes out and kills it's mother?!?! WTF!!
Laz
Yeah, this was the lowest point I've seen a move sink to. The human face on it made me just eject the cassette (back in the VHS days). It was so stupid, I don't think I could stand watching it to the end now.
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The Pointless
Gallente Plastic Toys
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Posted - 2007.08.29 22:27:00 -
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Edited by: The Pointless on 29/08/2007 22:28:01 I've yet to see a film with a WTF moment to truly put me off it.
Worst one I've seen has to be Takeshi Kitano's Zatoichi. Near the end he finally reveals that he could see the whole time (choose not to), then right at the end, he trips, then says "Even with my eyes wide open I can't see a thing."
COULD HE SEE OR COULDN'T HE? BRAIN PAIN!
Seconded or equalled possibly by Casshern's ending.
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Menkaure
Amarr Vanitas Corp.
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Posted - 2007.08.29 22:39:00 -
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Originally by: Chronus26 'The Prestige' with Christian Bale and some others - Good movie till the end. The whole film is a build up to discovering the secret to 2 versions of a magic trick, and whats the secret? A ******* cloning machine. In the 1850s. What a great plot twist that is. Not.
Now you see... I quite liked that.
It just feels right for the era... the 1850's "with science anything is possible" kinda attitude that prevailed. Had enough mystique around it, i thought it was a good twist.
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Epoch
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Posted - 2007.08.29 23:07:00 -
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Edited by: Epoch on 29/08/2007 23:09:16 hollywoods horrible remake of the brilliant dutch film "the vanishing". completely ruined the ending.
Eberts opinion:
Quote: "The Vanishing" is a textbook exercise in the trashing of a nearly perfect film, conducted oddly enough under the auspices of the man who directed it... The ending of the original "Vanishing" is of a piece with the rest of the film. It is organically necessary to it. No other ending will do. That is why this Hollywood remake is so obscene."
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Twilight Moon
Minmatar Malicious Intentions Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.08.29 23:09:00 -
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Is this Oldboy film any good?
Bit random I know, but its sitting here and I havent seen it yet.
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Imperator Jora'h
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Posted - 2007.08.29 23:12:00 -
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Originally by: Tarquin Tarquinius In Star Wars Episode I, the whole space battle sequence was terrible. Bad acting all around plus a six year old blows up a capital ship by accident. "NOW THIS IS POD RACING!" So much suck. Luckily the movie was ruined long before that.
Agreed. The suckage started almost right away and just continued. When they hit the part with Mitichlorians I gave up all hope for the movie and began hoping Tarantino or someone would go beat the ever loving hell out of Lucas.
And also agreed on the little kid who has never flown a spaceship but hey, it's like a pod racer, blowing up a cap ship with one shot from inside because they keep their reactor there and then the whole invasion failing because out of a fleet of cap ships only THAT one controlled ALL the robots below.
Is there an emoticon for puking?
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Epoch
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Posted - 2007.08.29 23:12:00 -
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Originally by: Twilight Moon Is this Oldboy film any good?
Bit random I know, but its sitting here and I havent seen it yet.
Oldboy is ******* incredible. just about everything directed by Park Chan-wook is excellent. after you've seen it - watch the rest of his "vengeance trilogy". the other two films are "sympathy for lady vengeance" and "sympathy for mr. vengeance".
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