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Red Rumurder
5punkorp Betrayal Under Mayhem
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Posted - 2007.08.30 18:12:00 -
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I believe it as someone who stays in empire due to Concord semi-protecting you, but I hear about 0.0 mission runners as carebears. Can someone help explain this, it's not in wiki that I can find?
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Winterblink
Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.08.30 18:16:00 -
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Obviously you weren't looking hard enough: Linkage.
Seriously though, some folks define them basically as people who don't do PVP, in the classic sense (people blowing other people up).
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Tommy TenKreds
Animal Mercantile Executive Animal.
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Posted - 2007.08.30 18:16:00 -
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Originally by: Red Rumurder I believe it as someone who stays in empire due to Concord semi-protecting you, but I hear about 0.0 mission runners as carebears. Can someone help explain this, it's not in wiki that I can find?
A carebear is someone who is unwilling to take risks and wants and easy life.
There are some people who are happy to take risks with cash but still refuse to put ships and clones on the line; they are no less carebears, because deep down they just fear the humiliation of losing a fight.
Don't make the mistake of assuming carebears live only in Empire.
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Red Rumurder
5punkorp Betrayal Under Mayhem
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Posted - 2007.08.30 18:20:00 -
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Originally by: Tommy TenKreds Don't make the mistake of assuming carebears live only in Empire.
cool thanks seems i fell in that trap
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Red Rumurder
5punkorp Betrayal Under Mayhem
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Posted - 2007.08.30 18:23:00 -
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Originally by: Winterblink Obviously you weren't looking hard enough: Linkage.
Seriously though, some folks define them basically as people who don't do PVP, in the classic sense (people blowing other people up).
hmm found that site but where in there does it mention eve-online carebears.
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Winterblink
Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.08.30 18:23:00 -
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Originally by: Red Rumurder
Originally by: Winterblink Obviously you weren't looking hard enough: Linkage.
Seriously though, some folks define them basically as people who don't do PVP, in the classic sense (people blowing other people up).
hmm found that site but where in there does it mention eve-online carebears.
Was a joke, hence "Seriously though".
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Baaldor
Caldari Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.08.30 18:24:00 -
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Originally by: Red Rumurder I believe it as someone who stays in empire due to Concord semi-protecting you, but I hear about 0.0 mission runners as carebears. Can someone help explain this, it's not in wiki that I can find?
It is my understanding that a carebear is a fellow that follows the industrial/economic or scientific fields primarily. PvP is not the main focus or even on the radar. Although I have seen a lot of the bears we have slapping around hostiles. I call em "Fuzzy Wuzzies"..Bears with out hair.
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annoing
Amarr MisFunk Inc. Frontline.
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Posted - 2007.08.30 18:24:00 -
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Edited by: annoing on 30/08/2007 18:25:27 Carebears whine and whinge about ANYTHING that upsets their isk plans. Whether it is mining or ratting in 0.0 (those naughty naughty cloakers), mining or ratting in high sec (those naughty naughty ore thieves or naughty naughty salvage stealers) or afk hauliers who complain that suicide ganking has cost them their life savings. Carebears dont want to die, lose isk or lose ships etc. Carebears want it easy. Carebears suck ********* (insert your own insult)
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Princess Jodi
Vendetta Underground Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.08.30 18:33:00 -
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Originally by: Tommy TenKreds
There are some people who are happy to take risks with cash but still refuse to put ships and clones on the line; they are no less carebears, because deep down they just fear the humiliation of losing a fight.
If you hadn't gone into some psychobabble explanation as to WHY carebears don't fight, I might have agreed with you. In my case, I am more interested in building an empire than in vaporizing a random noob. Therefore, I'm labeled as a Carebear. But I've got 45+ BS kills and have lost 2 Carriers doing that Carebearing.
While Carebear is generally considered a deragatory term, and PVP'r is generally considered some sort of compliment, I actually disagree. In my experience, most PVP'rs are 8 year old boys with the attention span of a gnat that expect Eve to present them with something to shoot every 30 seconds or so. Ya know... something like the Donkey Kong players who spend weeks jumping over barrels then expect you to be impressed when they finish the level.
That being said (vented?), I'll agree that a Carebear is someone who tends to avoid fights, while pvp'rs think its the only thing to do in Eve.
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Hasan Rachid
Minmatar Madhatters Inc. M. PIRE
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Posted - 2007.08.30 18:34:00 -
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I define it as someone who will not fight for the space they are in. Someone who when called upon to undock from a station or get out of the pos to fight will not do so.
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000Hunter000
Gallente Magners Marauders
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Posted - 2007.08.30 18:38:00 -
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So i'm prolly a carebear then, i enjoy helping out others (allthough it's getting harder and harder to do so as people will try to exploit ones helpfull nature), i don't like the ship to ship pvp a lot, i mostly do it when it's forced upon me by some silly person (which is ok btw i mean if i didn't understand the risk of beeing ganked or podded or whatever i would have stopped playing a long long time ago), i would make a bad pirate for instance, i would constantly feel sorry for my victims and prolly end up refunding them
Tbh i also link pvp with low sec and 0.0 mostly and seeing i get paranoid when i stay in those spaces for too long i prefer the easier life of hi sec.
Anyways impo it's not a matter of beeing a carebear or pvper but it's about how u enjoy your game, if someone enjoys his game playing it a little safer in hi sec then let them, there not bothering me one bit, nor are the peeps who are pirates or the 0.0 corps, they can all play however they like, just don't go around saying your playingstyle is the 'true' eve playingstyle cuz thats a lot of cow excrement
so there u have it, i'm a carebear and damn proud of it!
CCP, let us pay the online shop with Direct Debit!!! Magners is now recruiting, evemail me or Dagazbo ingame.
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Tommy TenKreds
Animal Mercantile Executive Animal.
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Posted - 2007.08.30 18:38:00 -
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Originally by: Princess Jodi
Originally by: Tommy TenKreds
There are some people who are happy to take risks with cash but still refuse to put ships and clones on the line; they are no less carebears, because deep down they just fear the humiliation of losing a fight.
If you hadn't gone into some psychobabble explanation as to WHY carebears don't fight, I might have agreed with you. In my case, I am more interested in building an empire than in vaporizing a random noob. Therefore, I'm labeled as a Carebear. But I've got 45+ BS kills and have lost 2 Carriers doing that Carebearing.
Um.. wouldn't that put you outside of my definition?
Originally by: Princess Jodi While Carebear is generally considered a deragatory term, and PVP'r is generally considered some sort of compliment, I actually disagree. In my experience, most PVP'rs are 8 year old boys with the attention span of a gnat that expect Eve to present them with something to shoot every 30 seconds or so. Ya know... something like the Donkey Kong players who spend weeks jumping over barrels then expect you to be impressed when they finish the level.
That being said (vented?), I'll agree that a Carebear is someone who tends to avoid fights, while pvp'rs think its the only thing to do in Eve.
I don't agree that pvpr's are merely those who shoot others.
Nor do I agree that pvper and carebear are polar opposite terms.
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Keeves
Minmatar STYGIAN WRAITH DANCERS
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Posted - 2007.08.30 18:45:00 -
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Edited by: Keeves on 30/08/2007 18:45:55 Carebear isnt so much someone who doesnt pvp, every major alliance need infrastructure with miners and whatever else. Carebears are the ones who are scared to leave high sec out of fear of losing time, isk, or both.
They are usually the ones who work hella hard and long to get the big shinies, outfit them to balls, step out of high sec cause they think they are the **** now and unstoppable, and lose their fancy shiny within the week to which their carebearing attitude takes over and they sulk in high sec till they got 2 or 3 shinies to replace their lost one.
Carebears tend to have only one or two ships and get their kick by sitting docked in rens/jita and smacktalking the local channel.
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000Hunter000
Gallente Magners Marauders
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Posted - 2007.08.30 18:47:00 -
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I pvped someone in my shuttle a while ago and won, so how did i do that?
Answer correctly and win 1 million isk (would offer more but i'm skint again atm )
(seriously the correct answer or closest to it gets 1 mill deposited into his wallet)
CCP, let us pay the online shop with Direct Debit!!! Magners is now recruiting, evemail me or Dagazbo ingame.
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Baaldor
Caldari Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.08.30 18:51:00 -
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Originally by: Princess Jodi
Originally by: Tommy TenKreds
There are some people who are happy to take risks with cash but still refuse to put ships and clones on the line; they are no less carebears, because deep down they just fear the humiliation of losing a fight.
If you hadn't gone into some psychobabble explanation as to WHY carebears don't fight, I might have agreed with you. In my case, I am more interested in building an empire than in vaporizing a random noob. Therefore, I'm labeled as a Carebear. But I've got 45+ BS kills and have lost 2 Carriers doing that Carebearing.
While Carebear is generally considered a deragatory term, and PVP'r is generally considered some sort of compliment, I actually disagree. In my experience, most PVP'rs are 8 year old boys with the attention span of a gnat that expect Eve to present them with something to shoot every 30 seconds or so. Ya know... something like the Donkey Kong players who spend weeks jumping over barrels then expect you to be impressed when they finish the level.
That being said (vented?), I'll agree that a Carebear is someone who tends to avoid fights, while pvp'rs think its the only thing to do in Eve.
Yea hey thanks for the broad sweeping generalization of Eve's player base. Makes you wonder why there is all this bashing..huh? Go figure.
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althan gnartians
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Posted - 2007.08.30 18:55:00 -
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When someone refuses to let you gank him or dont what to follow your incompetent leed into certain death he's a carebear, thats about as good a definition you will get.
Originally it meant someone who only did mining and production in high sec, when he/she did not have an active war declaration, but today it's used as a general smack term.
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althan gnartians
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Posted - 2007.08.30 18:59:00 -
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Edited by: althan gnartians on 30/08/2007 18:59:11 double post
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar Sicarri Covenant
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Posted - 2007.08.30 19:26:00 -
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Carebear
Tic Toc Tic Toc , time is ticking ~Liz Kali
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Matthew Cooper
Minmatar Who What When Where Why and How
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Posted - 2007.08.30 19:35:00 -
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Originally by: 000Hunter000 I pvped someone in my shuttle a while ago and won, so how did i do that?
Answer correctly and win 1 million isk (would offer more but i'm skint again atm )
(seriously the correct answer or closest to it gets 1 mill deposited into his wallet)
Were you the guy who ransomed the freighter that other people were killing?
Signature starts here:
Originally by: Tarminic Stop posting with your alt Kieron.
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Sergeant Spot
Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.08.30 19:37:00 -
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Carebears vary
I am a 0.0 BoB carebear. My "primary focus" is industry related, much like all my fellow BoB carebears.
But all BoB carebears have at least one account that can fight, and a fair number of my follows have kill records to make hardcore solid pvpers green with envy (not me, but some of my fellow carebears are lethal bastards)
At the other extreme of "carebears" are some empire huggers that dont want non-consensual pvp to even exist.
Play nice while you butcher each other.
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Hamfast
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.08.30 19:58:00 -
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I always looked at it as a Carebear (and I am one) just does not enjoy the PvP combat part of these games and works to avoid it...
but I did enjoy Surfin's PlunderBunny's link
Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny Carebear
I would add that the folks that whine about game parts they don't like and try to get changed to benefit their own style of play come in all flavors, thus should be removed from the Carebear/PvPer definition. --------*****-------- It takes 43 muscles to frown and 17 to smile, but it doesn't take any to just sit there with a dumb look on your face.
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Arkios Odymei
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.08.30 20:09:00 -
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Edited by: Arkios Odymei on 30/08/2007 20:10:51 I define carebear as someone who will never take a risk while trying to maximise a reward.
For Example one of the bigest carebears, Someone who stays in an NPC corp running missions in motsu (highest quality caldari navy agent) in order to maximise profit while being completely free of PvP and wardecs.
Another example, someone in 0.0 who only rats all day in an empty system, and logs off as soon as some one else jumps into local.
Not limiting your self to only Hisec = less bear like. Not staying in an NPC corp for fear of war decs = less bear like. Intentionaly engaging in a MMORPG with other players, be it thru actual day trading (not selling loot for whatever its going for in system mind you), PvP combat, courier missions etc = less bear like.
Basicaly Carebears are the ppl who want to play this as a single player game, and do not want any interaction with others. ------------------------------------------------------------------
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Tarazed Aquilae
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Posted - 2007.08.30 20:38:00 -
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Edited by: Tarazed Aquilae on 30/08/2007 20:39:03 Any industrial, mining, or NPC farming activity is called carebearing.
But real carebears arenÆt necessarily miners and industrialists. An Empire miner no combat skills isnÆt automatically a real carebear.
The true carebear believes that in game conflict is something only evil people engage in. Gank a non carebear empire miner and he will just try to be more careful next time. Gank a carebear miner in 0.0 and he will post on the forums about how anti social, twisted, and evil you are for ruining his fun and not playing nice.
Carebears might, and often do, get upset over things like market PvP too. They want game mechanics put in place to stop otherÆs from undercutting their sale orders or to stop ôprice gougingö by other players.
ThatÆs what a real carebear is.
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An Anarchyyt
Gallente Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2007.08.30 20:44:00 -
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I cry every time someone doesn't know the cartoon.
Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
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Whineroy
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Posted - 2007.08.30 21:34:00 -
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By far the worst kind of carebears in this game are all those gankers who think that things like gatecamping in a Mothership (with plenty of cyno alts ready for quick escape) makes one a Cool Evil Pirate, keep insulting "empire carebears who avoid danger and should go play WoW" and otherwise act like losers with major RL issues, and finish up with endless whines how they are just "playing the game it is meant to be played" and how CCP must nerf this and that so that they can get more risk-free kills.
There are carebears at both sides of PvP fence, however it has become obvious that some lowsec gankbears keep whining about "empire carebears" to turn attention away from the fact that they themselves are the worst risk-avoiding carebears in this whole game.
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cal nereus
Bounty Hunter - Dark Legion Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.30 21:35:00 -
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0.0 carebears are basically the same as empire carebears, except they replace Concord with their alliance/allies. Same behavior, different location, different police.
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mallina
Caldari Sybrite Inc.
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Posted - 2007.08.30 22:27:00 -
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The kind of people who won't do ANYTHING that might risk them their ship or precious iskies, but still want equal profits to those who do (as if they arn't, CCP is obviously playing favourites and they threaten to quit if they don't get it)
Actually, that's even worse than a Carebear
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Gretek Lal
Minmatar Fractal Holdings Ltd.
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Posted - 2007.08.30 22:51:00 -
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Originally by: Princess Jodi In my experience, most PVP'rs are 8 year old boys with the attention span of a gnat that expect Eve to present them with something to shoot every 30 seconds or so. Ya know... something like the Donkey Kong players who spend weeks jumping over barrels then expect you to be impressed when they finish the level.
I agree. But I must add that most of them are carebears in the sense that they don't want actual player-vs-player fighting.
They want easy targets like industrials, Bantams, etc.
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Jenny Spitfire
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.08.30 22:53:00 -
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In my most humble opinion, I think carebear is a degrading term that people use on others in MMOs who are not part of their cool gang. Like not be the part of the majority. --------- Technica impendi Caldari generis. Pax Caldaria!
Kali is for KArebearLIng. I 100% agree with Avon.
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cal nereus
Bounty Hunter - Dark Legion Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.30 23:11:00 -
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I loved carebears the cartoon. Watched a few movies when I was younger. I still have 'em on VHS I think.
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