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My Neutral Toon
Knights Who Til Recently Said Ni
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Posted - 2012.01.17 16:06:00 -
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EDIT:I'm not here solely to rant. I would like clarification as well. Is it against the EULA?
Original: Eve GM's are sending out threatening mails to players about can flipping.
Not myself, but a member of my main's corp received a mail in regards to can flipping. It is not our fault that someone read the message that says "this person and their entire corp can shoot you", and they still clicked YES. This is now THEIR fault and any repercussions are no fault of our own. My main will usually red box as a result of a can flip for some 1v1 frig fun :)
/puts on "go to lowsec for pvp" troll-retardant suit. ...Can't. Tell. If ...Troll? Or Serious.... |
Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
1284
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Posted - 2012.01.17 16:07:00 -
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only in starter systems. as far as i know. |
KrakizBad
Eve Defence Force Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2012.01.17 16:08:00 -
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Stop flipping in starter systems. Also, post with your main. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/39006524/DumbHiseccers.jpg |
Doc Fury
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.01.17 16:09:00 -
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The only time GM's ever get involved is when you do this in the 1.0 security systems where newbies start out. Can baiting/harrassing newbies in their training systems is verboten.
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'no.' |
My Neutral Toon
Knights Who Til Recently Said Ni
11
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Posted - 2012.01.17 16:12:00 -
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Doc Fury wrote:The only time GM's ever get involved is when you do this in the 1.0 security systems where newbies start out. Can baiting/harrassing newbies in their training systems is verboten.
I will have to ask where he was. It was not specified by my corp mate if it was in 1.0 or elsewhere. Although, Myself, and other corp mates alike, flipped for quite sometime in Jouvalen before moving to Amarr space and never once had been contacted by a GM. I understand if they do it just in newbie systems, since too many new characters get scarred away.
Is this a new thing? ...Can't. Tell. If ...Troll? Or Serious.... |
Doc Fury
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
231
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Posted - 2012.01.17 16:14:00 -
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My Neutral Toon wrote:Doc Fury wrote:The only time GM's ever get involved is when you do this in the 1.0 security systems where newbies start out. Can baiting/harrassing newbies in their training systems is verboten.
I will have to ask where he was. It was not specified by my corp mate if it was in 1.0 or elsewhere. Although, Myself, and other corp mates alike, flipped for quite sometime in Jouvalen before moving to Amarr space and never once had been contacted by a GM. I understand if they do it just in newbie systems, since too many new characters get scarred away. Is this a new thing?
No, not new. You probably got away with it before because nobody complained. The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'no.' |
My Neutral Toon
Knights Who Til Recently Said Ni
11
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Posted - 2012.01.17 16:15:00 -
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KrakizBad wrote:Also, post with your main.
This toon serves as my dead-head diplomat for my other 2 toons. Sorry to displease you.
This also makes trolling a bit easier. lol ...Can't. Tell. If ...Troll? Or Serious.... |
Lady Spank
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
1012
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Posted - 2012.01.17 16:16:00 -
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It's not a new thing, cowards have relied on killing noobs rather than doing real PvP since day one. (a¦á_a¦â) ~ http://getoutnastyface.blogspot.com/ ~ (a¦á_a¦â) -áGÖÑ New Years Resolution ~ Cease thy Smacktalk GÖÑ |
I'thari
40
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Posted - 2012.01.17 16:16:00 -
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My Neutral Toon wrote:Is this a new thing? If you consider at least 3 years new - sure (at least I think first time saw that stuff was around qr/buocrypha)... thing is: most new players don't know about such stuff themselves, so... |
My Neutral Toon
Knights Who Til Recently Said Ni
11
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Posted - 2012.01.17 16:17:00 -
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Lady Spank wrote:It's not a new thing, cowards have relied on killing noobs rather than doing real PvP since day one.
to clarify
can flipping in my main's corp is not a normal thing anymore. maybe you didnt read above, we moved on from that. but some still do it when they get bored.
my main's corp does war decs and merc work, and in less than a year's existence is sitting just outside the top 1K on battleclinic.
this thread wasnt directed at you, troll elsewhere. ...Can't. Tell. If ...Troll? Or Serious.... |
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Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
1284
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Posted - 2012.01.17 16:20:00 -
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Lady Spank wrote:It's not a new thing, cowards have relied on killing noobs rather than doing real PvP since day one.
I would like your post, however real PvP in an game where exploiting weakness is the major feature ? Or real PvP is done in pub, cage, war .. But some people take this game seriously and their honor into it .. and for them i salute you. |
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation
235
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Posted - 2012.01.17 16:20:00 -
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Just tell your corpmate to move to Arnon, it's much better than rookie systems.
Also tell him he's going to need some spare ships. |
My Neutral Toon
Knights Who Til Recently Said Ni
11
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Posted - 2012.01.17 16:25:00 -
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btw,
gate camping 10 v 1 in lowsec isnt real pvp either. been there done that, YarrC. it took forever to grind my sec status back.
blob wars in nullsec is **** too.
PvP is what you make it. The game has several different mechanics in place to allow for it.
my preferred form of PvP is roaming fleets through NPC nullsec
again, troll elsewhere. ...Can't. Tell. If ...Troll? Or Serious.... |
Othran
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
136
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Posted - 2012.01.17 16:31:00 -
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My Neutral Toon wrote:[ I will have to ask where he was. It was not specified by my corp mate if it was in 1.0 or elsewhere. Is this a new thing?
Nothing to do with 1.0 systems.
If you can flip or bait in ANY of the tutorial systems (3 per race = 12) then you get the banstick. Edit - doesn't matter who you bait or flip, you get banned if petitioned.
No its not new.
Personally I think you should be permabanned as you know quite well what you're doing. |
My Neutral Toon
Knights Who Til Recently Said Ni
11
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Posted - 2012.01.17 16:36:00 -
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edit:
nvm. not going to say it.
I have my answers. thanks to those who replied with a bit of Maturity ...Can't. Tell. If ...Troll? Or Serious.... |
KrakizBad
Eve Defence Force Fatal Ascension
213
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Posted - 2012.01.17 16:39:00 -
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You're shooting 1 day old characters. He's right. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/39006524/DumbHiseccers.jpg |
Bartholemu Fu-Baz
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.01.17 16:42:00 -
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FYI, Relevant: http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Rookie_Systems |
My Neutral Toon
Knights Who Til Recently Said Ni
11
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Posted - 2012.01.17 16:44:00 -
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KrakizBad wrote:You're shooting 1 day old characters. He's right.
I've seen OLD characters fall for can flipping.
If CCP didn't want it as a part of the game, they would eliminate the mechanics. But they didn't.
They actually tweaked the mechanics to make it more 1v1 capable.
troll elsewhere ...Can't. Tell. If ...Troll? Or Serious.... |
Lady Spank
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
1012
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Posted - 2012.01.17 16:49:00 -
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I like the troll elsewhere reply in response to everyone when its clear you defend the right to canflip in noob systems. (a¦á_a¦â) ~ http://getoutnastyface.blogspot.com/ ~ (a¦á_a¦â) -áGÖÑ New Years Resolution ~ Cease thy Smacktalk GÖÑ |
KrakizBad
Eve Defence Force Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2012.01.17 16:50:00 -
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My Neutral Toon wrote:KrakizBad wrote:You're shooting 1 day old characters. He's right. I've seen OLD characters fall for can flipping. If CCP didn't want it as a part of the game, they would eliminate the mechanics. But they didn't. They actually tweaked the mechanics to make it more 1v1 capable. troll elsewhere
They don't, that's why you get a ban for flipping noobs. Also, troll alts can't complain about trolling. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/39006524/DumbHiseccers.jpg |
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Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
5168
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Posted - 2012.01.17 16:51:00 -
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Lady Spank wrote:I like the troll elsewhere reply in response to everyone when its clear you defend the right to canflip in noob systems. It's has a new name, it's called bait canning, apparently.
CCP Zulu..... Forcing players to dock at the captain's quarters is a form of what we actually wanted to get through, which is making Incarna a seamless part of the EVE Online experience. |
My Neutral Toon
Knights Who Til Recently Said Ni
12
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Posted - 2012.01.17 16:52:00 -
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Lady Spank wrote:I like the troll elsewhere reply in response to everyone when its clear you defend the right to canflip in noob systems.
quote me where i defended the right to can flip in rookie systems please. because i didn't. I defend the right to can flip, regardless of location. If CCP would like it be done else where, then it will be done else where. This thread for for clarification of the rules, not to ask everyone's opinion on can flipping.
If you are into 1000 man blob fleets that lag you to the point of exhaustion, that is fine. If you like to sit on a LS gate with a 20 man fleet to wait on the 1 guy to come through from HS to gank him, that's fine too.
did you read all my posts? ...Can't. Tell. If ...Troll? Or Serious.... |
My Neutral Toon
Knights Who Til Recently Said Ni
12
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Posted - 2012.01.17 16:54:00 -
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Mag's wrote:Lady Spank wrote:I like the troll elsewhere reply in response to everyone when its clear you defend the right to canflip in noob systems. It's has a new name, it's called bait canning, apparently.
they are different.
bait canning (IMO) involves you changing the name of your can to "free stuff" and popping noobs.
That is cowardice and foolish.
But stealing from a can and the person shooting at you for it, and you getting to fight him and any corpies that come along (by yourself) is not not bait canning. ...Can't. Tell. If ...Troll? Or Serious.... |
KrakizBad
Eve Defence Force Fatal Ascension
213
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Posted - 2012.01.17 16:54:00 -
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My Neutral Toon wrote:quote me where i defended the right to can flip in rookie systems please. because i didn't.
Would be easier to do if you didn't edit your posts where you do so directly before trolling still further. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/39006524/DumbHiseccers.jpg |
Bartholemu Fu-Baz
The Scope Gallente Federation
17
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Posted - 2012.01.17 16:54:00 -
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My Neutral Toon wrote:KrakizBad wrote:You're shooting 1 day old characters. He's right. I've seen OLD characters fall for can flipping. If CCP didn't want it as a part of the game, they would eliminate the mechanics. But they didn't. They actually tweaked the mechanics to make it more 1v1 capable. troll elsewhere
Except if you are doing it to old characters or even new characters outside of the Rookie Systems, you aren't going to get a CCP warning. Your "corp mate" apparently wasn't.
Can flipping is perfectly fine and a legitimate way (game rules wise anyway) to challenge someone, but CCP doesn't want you doing that to brand new players to ruin their first impression eve while they are still learning how to fly.
Sounds reasonable to me.
Tell your "corp mates" to stop that, and all should be fine. |
Othran
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
137
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Posted - 2012.01.17 16:54:00 -
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My Neutral Toon wrote:Lady Spank wrote:I like the troll elsewhere reply in response to everyone when its clear you defend the right to canflip in noob systems. quote me where i defended the right to can flip in rookie systems please. because i didn't. I defend the right to can flip, regardless of location. If CCP would like it be done else where, then it will be done else where. This thread for for clarification of the rules, not to ask everyone's opinion on can flipping. If you are into 1000 man blob fleets that lag you to the point of exhaustion, that is fine. If you like to sit on a LS gate with a 20 man fleet to wait on the 1 guy to come through from HS to gank him, that's fine too. did you read all my posts?
Ahahaha I don't think I've ever seen Spank with more than 5 people. Normally she's solo(ish).
Stop digging. |
Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
5168
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Posted - 2012.01.17 16:55:00 -
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My Neutral Toon wrote:quote me where i defended the right to can flip in rookie systems please. because i didn't. Sure.
My Neutral Toon wrote:I defend the right to can flip, regardless of location.
CCP Zulu..... Forcing players to dock at the captain's quarters is a form of what we actually wanted to get through, which is making Incarna a seamless part of the EVE Online experience. |
My Neutral Toon
Knights Who Til Recently Said Ni
12
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Posted - 2012.01.17 16:58:00 -
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KrakizBad wrote:My Neutral Toon wrote:KrakizBad wrote:You're shooting 1 day old characters. He's right. I've seen OLD characters fall for can flipping. If CCP didn't want it as a part of the game, they would eliminate the mechanics. But they didn't. They actually tweaked the mechanics to make it more 1v1 capable. troll elsewhere They don't, that's why you get a ban for flipping noobs. Also, troll alts can't complain about trolling.
I doubt i get a ban stick for having this dead-head. when i've never trolled anyone's post on the forums. my threads and replies are always on topic ...Can't. Tell. If ...Troll? Or Serious.... |
Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
5168
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Posted - 2012.01.17 16:58:00 -
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My Neutral Toon wrote:bait canning (IMO) involves you changing the name of your can to "free stuff" and popping noobs.
That is cowardice and foolish.
But stealing from a can and the person shooting at you for it, and you getting to fight him and any corpies that come along (by yourself) is not not bait canning. It was a joke, it's actually called can baiting and is a reference to another thread.
Nothing to see here, move along.
CCP Zulu..... Forcing players to dock at the captain's quarters is a form of what we actually wanted to get through, which is making Incarna a seamless part of the EVE Online experience. |
My Neutral Toon
Knights Who Til Recently Said Ni
12
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Posted - 2012.01.17 17:00:00 -
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Mag's wrote:My Neutral Toon wrote:quote me where i defended the right to can flip in rookie systems please. because i didn't. Sure. My Neutral Toon wrote:I defend the right to can flip, regardless of location.
touche!
I shall watch my wording from now on
Edit:
I came to ask a question and get clarification. rant just a tad. I've done both.
You all may have this thread now! Keep telling me how bad can flipping is! ...Can't. Tell. If ...Troll? Or Serious.... |
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