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Seeah Yalv
Minmatar Veni Vidi Vici. Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2007.09.03 02:10:00 -
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Edited by: Seeah Yalv on 03/09/2007 02:10:58 Im in Low sec Domain right now and I found for over 7 systems stretching across a huge issue.
I see people with bot names flying haulers by the dozens back and forth nonstop.
They do not talk, if you blow there ship up the pod will sit there.
I have popped over 10 of them so far and each time I find the same type of loot.
Courier Mission loot, marines, sealed cans, fertilizer crates.
Instead of Mining ore they now are doing courier missions to make extremely high amounts of isk.
At any given time there are 5 haulers warping back and forth to each gate in each system.
All are in npc corps, less than a few months old. All together there must be at least 50 transporting mission goods nonstop.
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Joshua Foiritain
Gallente Coreli Corporation Exuro Mortis
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Posted - 2007.09.03 02:11:00 -
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Welcome to last year? Theyve been around for ages, like with macro miners, farmers and other activities of that nature CCP isnt in a hurry to care. -----
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Altaree
Red Frog Investments Blue Sky Consortium
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Posted - 2007.09.03 02:34:00 -
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You gotta find their haulers for when they cash in their LP and kill those.
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Arcadia1701
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2007.09.03 02:46:00 -
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Yeh i to see this alot, iv seen a chain undock of 5 ish Domis, all in the same starting corp, all same bloodling chars, all made on the same hour of the same day. Doing mission for the same agent . Then they all arrive back at the station at the same time, then all undock again, at the same time. All with names like * low disk* * defrag* and various other stupid things. Its a bit silly. My sig>
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Toria Nynys
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.09.03 03:17:00 -
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Originally by: Altaree You gotta find their haulers for when they cash in their LP and kill those.
Good luck with that. The non-combatant corps offer and buy back nexus chips at the same station, there's absolutely 0 need to screw with tags and whatnot to cash out if you're running a macro hauler op.
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Dark Shikari
Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.09.03 03:20:00 -
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Try going to Loes...
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aUTOKILL
Gallente Slacker Industries Exuro Mortis
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Posted - 2007.09.03 04:20:00 -
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ive seen macro velators filled with dirt, i figured they were going to repopulate a gallente planet but then i blew them up... ~~~~~~
Originally by: Demitri Klashnikov "Wanna come back to my place for some pew pew?"
Originally by: lofty29 I HEREBY DECREE THAT FROM THIS DAY FORWARD, DARK SHIKARI IS TO BE REFERRED TO AS "DUTCH CURRY" |
Constance Noring
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Posted - 2007.09.03 04:31:00 -
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It sort of makes sense for CCP to not ban these guys. Now they know who the farmers are and can keep an eye on their accounts to see where the money goes, and hopefully catch some bigger fish.
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Katashi Ishizuka
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Posted - 2007.09.03 04:40:00 -
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It's lowsec.
YOU have the power to kill macro haulers, unlike high sec where CONCORD protects everyone.
So go do it :).
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Alski
Gallente Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.03 05:44:00 -
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Originally by: Katashi I****uka It's lowsec.
YOU have the power to kill macro haulers, unlike high sec where CONCORD protects everyone.
So go do it :).
Unfortunateley in order to do them any real harm you have to pop ALL of them comeing through a particuler system for several hours on end non-stop, if your a -10 pirate by profession thats just hunky dorey, if not its jsut a waste of time and security status, and i like many people consider my sec status to be a resource which sould be spent wiseley. -
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Jenna Shame
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Posted - 2007.09.03 06:07:00 -
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CCP trust this guy.
KOS knows a macro when they see one, they can most likely tell you where they downloaded it too....
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Sergeant Spot
Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.03 06:53:00 -
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Post in the Crime and Punishment section, including the system names. (but wait until you can avoid that area for a while, unless you dont mind dodging some extra pirates)
Play nice while you butcher each other.
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Ilvan
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Posted - 2007.09.03 07:35:00 -
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Originally by: Katashi I****uka It's lowsec.
YOU have the power to kill macro haulers, unlike high sec where CONCORD protects everyone.
So go do it :).
This just isn't the case.
Macro missioners and sweatshop players don't make their ISK based on the outcome of one or two missions. They make their ISK because they pretty much work 23/7, with expendable characters flying expendable ships.
Costing a macroer 1-2 million isk a day means nothing when they pull in dozens or even hundreds of times that amount during the other 22 hours you're not there. Organized and repeated harassment will just result in them moving.
Fixing macro and sweatshop players - and the illicit ISK trade they form the backbone of - is going to take more than just popping a few of the oblivious buggers when you get the chance, and it's not going to be solved by any of the ill-thought-out ideas that plague the Suggestions forum.
It might make people feel better to think that one person can help to stem the tide, but really, the scope of the operations involved means that the only people who can put a stop to it are the ones that run the game - CCP. And by all accounts, they are in the process of doing just that.
Additionally, as one person has already said... screwing your sec rating just to knock a percentage or two off an ISK farmer's daily tally is just not something most people want to do - or should be expected to do.
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DJ P
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Posted - 2007.09.03 08:18:00 -
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I believe the macroers won already. As the community supports them buying ISK, they will carry on.
It's a cancer that needs to be removed from the source. But CCP doesn't have the will to move the knife deep. They know who they are, who buy and who sell. And they know who use this money for.
As long as the WHOLE community don't USE the power they have and start blowing them from low sec to high sec (incl pods), nothing will be done.
We will be still here after 5 years complaining.
Also they do not do missions. They do trade between stations.
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Cornucopian
Gallente Dutch Omega United Freemen Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.03 08:25:00 -
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Originally by: Ilvan
Originally by: Katashi I****uka It's lowsec.
YOU have the power to kill macro haulers, unlike high sec where CONCORD protects everyone.
So go do it :).
It might make people feel better to think that one person can help to stem the tide, but really, the scope of the operations involved means that the only people who can put a stop to it are the ones that run the game - CCP. And by all accounts, they are in the process of doing just that.
What accounts are these then? I dont see hardly ANY measures being taken against the ISK sellers/buyer. CCP also sponsors ISK selling through GTC sales. what accounts are you talking about alt? ----------------------------------------------- "post with your main. delete your alt, you sad little exploiting metagamer."
Originally by: Royaldo
complete win by Cornucopian!
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Leandro Salazar
The Blackguard Wolves Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2007.09.03 08:47:00 -
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Originally by: DJ P
Also they do not do missions. They do trade between stations.
Trade does not give you standing, and I think these folks have very high standings to some corps...
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Arron S
Gallente Rampage Eternal Ka-Tet
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Posted - 2007.09.03 08:48:00 -
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I found them years ago.
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Shevar
Minmatar A.W.M Ka-Tet
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Posted - 2007.09.03 08:57:00 -
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Originally by: Cornucopian
What accounts are these then? I dont see hardly ANY measures being taken against the ISK sellers/buyer. CCP also sponsors ISK selling through GTC sales. what accounts are you talking about alt?
Perhaps that's because you don't buy ISK nor macro? But looking at the threads which people start when a GM removes money from em doesn't really make it look like they are doing nothing.
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Ilvan
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Posted - 2007.09.03 12:01:00 -
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Originally by: Cornucopian
What accounts are these then? I dont see hardly ANY measures being taken against the ISK sellers/buyer. CCP also sponsors ISK selling through GTC sales. what accounts are you talking about alt?
Yeah, they're not posting lists of banned accounts so they must not be doing anything!1@!@$1
Try thinking. It tends to make the world a less confusing place.
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Original Copy
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Posted - 2007.09.03 13:26:00 -
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Originally by: Ilvan the scope of the operations involved means that the only people who can put a stop to it are the ones that run the game - CCP. And by all accounts, they are in the process of doing just that.
Are they? I would like to see just how they do this. They can instaban some idiot who 'buys' a few hundred million or billion ISK, but the 'macros' that have been identified and petitioned repeatedly for over a year!!! are still happily doing their thing untouched and unaffected.
CCP has not, and is not, and will not in the future, do anything about these macro farmers... 30% of their userbase flaunt them, and another 20% use them more circumspectly... If CCP banned them they'd cut their income. Bad business for them, until the macros outnumber the people who care about the game and it dies.
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Cornucopian
Gallente Dutch Omega United Freemen Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.03 13:50:00 -
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Originally by: Shevar
Originally by: Cornucopian
What accounts are these then? I dont see hardly ANY measures being taken against the ISK sellers/buyer. CCP also sponsors ISK selling through GTC sales. what accounts are you talking about alt?
Perhaps that's because you don't buy ISK nor macro? But looking at the threads which people start when a GM removes money from em doesn't really make it look like they are doing nothing.
oh come on.... a 'CCP took my money' thread comes around every three weeks, and we have whole constellations filled with accounts with dorky names.... doing nothing but couriers and mining...... I'm not saying that CCP is doing absolutely nothing, the fact is that the community has a large gripe with the the whole ISK seller/buyer scene and it would do them good for CCP to release some numbers..... that shouldnt be a humungous drain on CCP resources would it? ----------------------------------------------- "post with your main. delete your alt, you sad little exploiting metagamer."
Originally by: Royaldo
complete win by Cornucopian!
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