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Kanarue Shinohara
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Posted - 2007.09.03 06:31:00 -
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Edited by: Kanarue Shinohara on 03/09/2007 06:30:58 On my in-game Notepad, the title is "Game Suggestion V"
Suggestion: $5 to Change Character Names
If players are welcome to pay $20 to transfer a character to a different account, we ought to be able to pay $5 to change a character's name.
Before I found out the name "Kanaru" existed, I pulled "Kanarue" out of thin air. Now I want to change my name to "Kanaru Shinohara" and would be more than happy to pay the $5 to take off the "e".
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Chris Stormrider
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Posted - 2007.09.03 11:11:00 -
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not /signed first of all, it's probably hard-linked on the database, like people&places and being part of a corporation might actually use the player's name as a unique identifier, not a PlayerID secondly, even if there is no apparent technical difficult, eve is a game that uses reputation a lot. the only thing you carry around with you is your name, everything else can change. so griefers / scammers and whoever else wants to be forgotten or lost to others can change his name
last but not least, I think that you purposefully tried not to mention the above reasons it couldn't/shouldn't be done (had you provided the above counter-argument I'd actually think your post as highly-constructive), so in my book people like you are the reason name's shouldn't be allowed to change.
PS. sorry for judging without actually knowing you, i hope you can forgive my assumptions
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lofty29
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.03 11:21:00 -
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Edited by: lofty29 on 03/09/2007 11:21:59 No. This would remove consequences. Consequences are the only way to stop someone from scamming.
If a scammer could train his main, scam with it until he is known then spend $25 changing the portrait and name, he gets away scott-free and can continue training his main char with little loss.
No ty.
Edit ---
Also, as much as I'd love to be Lofty (It's a 3 year old nub-corp members ) I don't want consequences removed from scamming. ---
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Kanarue Shinohara
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Posted - 2007.09.03 19:20:00 -
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So reputation matters a lot.
For anyone concerned about players changing names to erase past reputations, others should be able to look at the players' naming history to see what their names were in the past. That would take care of your reputation issue.
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Illyria Ambri
RennTech
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Posted - 2007.09.03 19:23:00 -
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Originally by: Kanarue Shinohara So reputation matters a lot.
For anyone concerned about players changing names to erase past reputations, others should be able to look at the players' naming history to see what their names were in the past. That would take care of your reputation issue.
Wouldn't work as lazy ppl and newbies that dont know any better would still get scammed
Not signed.. ever ------------ This is not War... This is pest control - Dalek Sek
Here come the Drums!! - The Master |
Kanarue Shinohara
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Posted - 2007.09.03 19:27:00 -
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Originally by: Illyria Ambri
Originally by: Kanarue Shinohara So reputation matters a lot.
For anyone concerned about players changing names to erase past reputations, others should be able to look at the players' naming history to see what their names were in the past. That would take care of your reputation issue.
Wouldn't work as lazy ppl and newbies that dont know any better would still get scammed
Not signed.. ever
What does "Not signed... ever" mean?
But that is why the tutorial should teach the noobs to look at the others' naming histories. If someone's lazy, that's their loss.
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Da'iel Zehn
Reign of Fire Mining
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Posted - 2007.09.03 19:54:00 -
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I'd like to be able to change a character name.
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Illyria Ambri
RennTech
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Posted - 2007.09.03 21:15:00 -
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Originally by: Kanarue Shinohara
Originally by: Illyria Ambri
Originally by: Kanarue Shinohara So reputation matters a lot.
For anyone concerned about players changing names to erase past reputations, others should be able to look at the players' naming history to see what their names were in the past. That would take care of your reputation issue.
Wouldn't work as lazy ppl and newbies that dont know any better would still get scammed
Not signed.. ever
What does "Not signed... ever" mean?
It obviously means that I will never sign this suggestion.. ever..
pretty easy to figure out if you have an IQ higher then a radish ------------ This is not War... This is pest control - Dalek Sek
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v1nk3r
Firing Squad Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.09.03 21:20:00 -
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Originally by: Illyria Ambri
Originally by: Kanarue Shinohara
Originally by: Illyria Ambri
Originally by: Kanarue Shinohara So reputation matters a lot.
For anyone concerned about players changing names to erase past reputations, others should be able to look at the players' naming history to see what their names were in the past. That would take care of your reputation issue.
Wouldn't work as lazy ppl and newbies that dont know any better would still get scammed
Not signed.. ever
What does "Not signed... ever" mean?
It obviously means that I will never sign this suggestion.. ever..
pretty easy to figure out if you have an IQ higher then a radish
He's not the one talking like a caveman. Maybe say "I will never sign this?" Not signed is grammatically incorrect, so don't call him the one with the low IQ.
Anyway, I think its a good idea. Sure reputation, but just add a name history... What would that hurt? People get name changes in RL all the time...
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Jason Travers
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Posted - 2007.09.03 22:09:00 -
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This wouldnĘt be the only online game that has done that exact thing. Ever Quest has been doing it for years now.
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Chris Stormrider
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Posted - 2007.09.03 22:22:00 -
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if it's hardcoded: and charactername is the only unique idenifier (as opposed to a characterid number) forget it.
where i live you have to ask a court for a name change. there must be good reason and the result must be as similar as the original as possible (after considering the original's problem) still you won't find them in the phonebook, since you don't know 1) they did change their name, 2) what they changed it to
obviously if scammer112 changes his name to john23 you must look every person's history to find the old name or you can change character search to be both old and new names, but you must also add date of change to be used with corp and alliance history...
also, will old names remain reserved or can i take your name after you're done with it? what happens if i sell my character? can i take my old name back if i want to?
so player "chris1" of "testalliance" I saw a week ago is ... who?
like I said, a can of worms...
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Illyria Ambri
RennTech
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Posted - 2007.09.03 22:32:00 -
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Originally by: v1nk3r
He's not the one talking like a caveman. Maybe say "I will never sign this?" Not signed is grammatically incorrect, so don't call him the one with the low IQ.
Anyway, I think its a good idea. Sure reputation, but just add a name history... What would that hurt? People get name changes in RL all the time...
lol.. caveman eh? That the best you could do?
------------ This is not War... This is pest control - Dalek Sek
Here come the Drums!! - The Master |
sableye
principle of motion Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.09.04 02:49:00 -
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I think it should be allowed but show up in your history of character section and old name should auto link to yours, main reason I say yes is because lots of people with dumb names out there that distract from feel of eve and there pilots actually want to change them and can't. Join The Fight With Promo Today |
Pavlinka
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.09.04 14:40:00 -
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/not signed Pavlinka & Pavlinecka
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Gridcrash
Redline Industries
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Posted - 2007.09.04 17:46:00 -
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Originally by: Illyria Ambri
Wouldn't work as lazy ppl and newbies that dont know any better would still get scammed
Not signed.. ever
The lazy are going to (and almost deserve to) get scammed regardless, and the newbies aren't going to know the reputation anyway.
I would actually suggest that FORCING a name change on an account transfer is an EXCELLENT idea to PROTECT people from scammers. How many times have you heard of someone who is a trusted member of an organization with an excellent reputation, selling their account and the new owner immediately rips everyone off? What better way to tip everyone off that this character may not be who they say they are anymore by forcing a name change on transfer?
As for people with bad reputations getting a name change, I feel that a "name change history" is an excellent way to ensure that bad reputations still travel with the character. If you're too lazy to look up their history, that's your problem.
From a realism point of view, I can't imagine that a criminal organization can't figure out how to hack a name change as well as changes of facial features.
In fact, I think a name change history would be yet another tool--and probably one of the best tools--to raise red flags about the reputation of a character. "This person has had 12 name changes in the last four months. Why? Should I really trust this person who can't even keep the same name for a year?"
-Grid
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Pasha Cracken
Caldari Thanos and Killjoy Productions Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.05 02:31:00 -
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i would like to see a character name swap.
Like instead of changing picts. and it can only be from one char on that account to the other.
It wouldn't stop or help the spammers or stammers because they would still exist.
sure i would like to switch my current name with my alts name.
just an idea
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Captian Internet
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Posted - 2007.09.05 04:04:00 -
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Can I at least get the Captian in my name change to Captain? Local Thread 107-b,War without a victor is a war without harsh enough penalties,http://tinyurl.com/25p8eoNavigatio |
AbyssStalker
Dread Fleet
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Posted - 2007.09.05 12:08:00 -
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I like the idea.. BUT I see alot of things that would be abused if they implimented this. The only reason I could see this being useful is if you Buy/Trade a Character via forums and don't want the Old owners Reputation.
IE you buy or trade a toon and find out after you just got a toon thats famous for scamming or is a corp theif..
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Kempeth
Gallente Thunderbolts
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Posted - 2007.09.06 08:42:00 -
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Originally by: AbyssStalker I like the idea.. BUT I see alot of things that would be abused if they implimented this. The only reason I could see this being useful is if you Buy/Trade a Character via forums and don't want the Old owners Reputation.
IE you buy or trade a toon and find out after you just got a toon thats famous for scamming or is a corp theif..
IMO. If someone doesn't want the old owners reputation he/she should not buy the character...
I'm against this idea. The name defines your character, it's what you are known by. I would be ok with the possibility to have the name changed by customer support, but only under very special circumstances: * Fresh character (< 14 days old) * Good reason (like a typo or similarity with too many other char names) ---------------------------------------------- The glass is neither half full nor half empty. It's just twice as big as it need to be... |
Red Flag
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Posted - 2007.09.06 14:18:00 -
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I think if a character changes accounts for $20, they should be allowed to change the name.
I'm sure it's used as a primary key in the database, and so it's probably too much of a pain to do this.
I don't believe the player should be able to change the character name so they can hide their identity, I just believe they should be able to change the character name so they can personalize a character that they just bought.
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I believe this option should only be allowed for character's who actually change accounts though. I do not believe players should be allowed to just up and change their character's names. (So that characters can be personalized.)
I also do not believe corp history, standings, or their existence in someone else's buddy list should disappear. The standings, corp history, and everything should stay. Since those are really what determine consequences in Eve... more then a name.
Red Flag
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Lars Erlkonig
Caldari GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.06 14:41:00 -
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maybe $5 is a little small of a charge, but I'd agree with the original poster that name changes should be available.
I have an alt that I got from a corp mate. When I got the alt, he told me he wouldn't be coming back to eve, ever. So I skilled up and spent lots of isk making the character great. Now he wants to come back to eve and I'd like it if he could have his original character name and I could keep my fully skilled alt. I wouldn't mind paying for such a switch, and I don't think he would either.
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ViRUS Pottage
Caldari byeee Corp Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.06 15:11:00 -
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I think maybe you should pay ingame ISK to change, like 200m ISK... Then people wont abuse it cause $5 is nothing.. people would change all the time, but 200m is alot (to me anyway) so people wont be constantly changing. ------
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Ranek Starscream
Caldari Ascent of Ages Dark Matter Coalition
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Posted - 2007.09.06 16:14:00 -
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Originally by: ViRUS Pottage I think maybe you should pay ingame ISK to change, like 200m ISK... Then people wont abuse it cause $5 is nothing.. people would change all the time, but 200m is alot (to me anyway) so people wont be constantly changing.
Not a bad idea.
Im all for allowing people to change their names. The problem with Eve is that once you've invested time in it your kinda stuck with that character. In WoW you just reroll and hey presto your lvl 70 in like 2 months again. If i wanted to start a new character (say for a new name) and have him match this one it would take about 15 months
THe idea of a name change is excellent it just has to be implemented well.
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Dheorl
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Posted - 2007.09.06 19:10:00 -
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After reading "the trader" or whatever that chronicle is called I've always wanted to have different alias's in different corps. Being able to play them of each other not in a scamming way as such, more of a roleplaying way would be awsome in my opinion although I can see why people would object and how it could get out of hand.
I don't like corp scamming (player joining corp, playing gaining rights, playing stealing everything, killing everyone and switching back to their main), but I do however think scamming on some level is all part of the game. People just have to be careful about who they trust and read everything twice... I see no problem in that.
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Reggie Stoneloader
Teikoku Trade Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.09.06 19:28:00 -
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If the history is available, and it can only be done once every few months (six maybe) then exploitation will be less rampant. Before you get into a fight with someone, you check their employment history to see if they're a 2003 character who's been in Veto for the last two years, don't you?
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Kanarue Shinohara
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Posted - 2007.09.17 05:19:00 -
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Yes, I suppose I could go with Reggie Stoneloader on this one. Or CCP could make more money and allow us to change names as often as we want. Still, a naming history would be the most essential.
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Maximillian Power
Minmatar The Dark Protectorate
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Posted - 2007.09.17 08:13:00 -
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Could go either way on this one.
On one hand I agree that history should follow you - on the other I think as long as there is traceability and it was limited to: 1. On account transfer 2. Once per account (i.e. I change the name I get warned that this is the ONLY time I'll be allowed to do it and as such I should ensure that the spelling is correct etc)
I doubt the name is the primary key because: 1. CCP strike me as a remarkably technically proficient group of chaps and 2. the linkies in game use an "id" and not a "name".
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Andreya
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Posted - 2007.09.17 09:08:00 -
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i would pay gooood money, or even a billion isk to change one letter in my name to Andreyas, or Andreyas Kain... as i own both of those names as alts, andreyas was my first character, but i didnt understand eve and how useless charisma was to me,
I agree a name history should be there, and maybe change names no more than once every 6 months
CCP, i think it would be beneficial for everyone including CCP if you allowed this, its more money for you guys, and less regret for us for the rest of our eve careers.
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Tonto Auri
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Posted - 2007.09.17 11:51:00 -
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Suggestion: $500 per character rename. (lowest price) But that will never be implemented. Name is only one identification of a character (except character id) and when it may be changed, You'll never find Your enemies. -- Thanks CCP for cu<end of sig> |
Sirius Problem
Darkness Inc.
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Posted - 2007.09.17 12:37:00 -
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Edited by: Sirius Problem on 17/09/2007 12:37:57 Character name/reputation is too important to allow changes. Regardless of the idea to allow name change history to be viewable. After a few changes it would just become confusing. I can imagine the flood of whines/petitions from people getting ripped-off by scammers who have changed their names.
ISK and real money figures don't matter as there will always be someone with the resources to get around any such 'abuse deterrents'
If you bought or traded for a character with a bad rep, sorry, but an old phrase that comes to mind is, "a fool and his money are soon parted".
Also, I highly doubt character names are used in the database as primary keys.
1) That would be extremely bad/amateur system design 2) There was a time in Eve when character name changes were allowed, so there really is no technical hurdle preventing this. ---- Some people say I have a bad attitude. Those people are stupid.
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