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Shenko Minara
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Posted - 2007.09.04 10:57:00 -
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It is eminating from the Eve gate. It appears to be building up and will reach a critical level in a few days. The pulse that will be released has unusual properties but it will be relatively weak. It will likely propogate through subspace, using the jumpgate system as the path of least resistance.
The only effect we can forsee is that some secure containers may unachor themselves as their subspace tethers degrade due to the pulse.
Due to the method we predict this wave will travel, the only secure containers to be affected will be those in high-security space. We recommend anyone responsible for any anchored containers in high-security space proceed to collect them as soon as possible.
-- Shenko Minara, Caldari News, Channel 192. -- 99% of Eve-o posters should stop posting. This probably includes me, but definitely includes you. |
Shenko Minara
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Posted - 2007.09.04 10:58:00 -
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Wow, what a great roleplaying excuse to get rid of the thousands upon thousands of disowned anchored containers littering high sec. That should help your server a little CCP. -- 99% of Eve-o posters should stop posting. This probably includes me, but definitely includes you. |
Arron S
Gallente Rampage Eternal Ka-Tet
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Posted - 2007.09.04 10:59:00 -
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Ummm wrong fourm?
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Shenko Minara
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Posted - 2007.09.04 11:00:00 -
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Also worth noting: Freeing up a single crop of cans from any notable 0.7sec system would total more than any potential collection of Titan Wrecks.
So there's really no excuse there either. vv -- 99% of Eve-o posters should stop posting. This probably includes me, but definitely includes you. |
Miriyana
Gallente Legions of Derek
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Posted - 2007.09.04 11:01:00 -
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All high sec? :D
Finally CCP, nice one. Clean up Nonni :P - - - - - - Change just leads to more problems
Originally by: CCP Wrangler Oh please no, I've had enough with real world taxes, and dealing with the tax agency. No more taxes!!
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Shenko Minara
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Posted - 2007.09.04 11:02:00 -
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Originally by: Arron S Ummm wrong fourm?
Not really. It's a legitimate issue that people should discuss. The roleplaying nonsense was just to draw in viewers. -- 99% of Eve-o posters should stop posting. This probably includes me, but definitely includes you. |
5n4keyes
Sacred Templars DeStInY.
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Posted - 2007.09.04 11:13:00 -
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Edited by: 5n4keyes on 04/09/2007 11:13:34 Personally i think that they should implement something which means i can see all my blasted cans!
Ive honestly no idea how many secure cans i have anchored for myself. Sure i can see Corp cans, but i wanna know where my cans are!
Atleast then maybe we can remote detonate them, or even go scoop them up!
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Shenko Minara
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Posted - 2007.09.04 11:23:00 -
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Originally by: 5n4keyes Personally i think that they should implement something which means i can see all my blasted cans!
Ive honestly no idea how many secure cans i have anchored for myself. Sure i can see Corp cans, but i wanna know where my cans are!
Atleast then maybe we can remote detonate them, or even go scoop them up!
This is surprisingly, a very very good idea. You don't see many of those on these forums. :D -- 99% of Eve-o posters should stop posting. This probably includes me, but definitely includes you. |
Ishina Fel
Caldari Synergy. Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.09.04 12:01:00 -
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So is this actually happening, or are you just trying to give the Devs ideas?
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Gaven Blands
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Posted - 2007.09.04 12:23:00 -
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I've got two anchored cans in low sec I havn't even seen for 3 months, and not used for 8 months.
What the hell am I supposed to do if they unanchor themselves? I'd rather quit eve than go and re-anchor them. And that is true.
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Primnproper
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Posted - 2007.09.04 13:00:00 -
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Originally by: Gaven Blands I've got two anchored cans in low sec I havn't even seen for 3 months, and not used for 8 months.
What the hell am I supposed to do if they unanchor themselves? I'd rather quit eve than go and re-anchor them. And that is true.
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Shenko Minara
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Posted - 2007.09.04 13:11:00 -
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Edited by: Shenko Minara on 04/09/2007 13:13:32
Originally by: Primnproper
Originally by: Gaven Blands I've got two anchored cans in low sec I havn't even seen for 3 months, and not used for 8 months.
What the hell am I supposed to do if they unanchor themselves? I'd rather quit eve than go and re-anchor them. And that is true.
Lucky they were talking about high sec then
Yeah, the point being you can't anchor cans in high-sec (0.8 - 1.0) anymore and with all the mechanics changes over the years the cans in the .6 and .7 systems are no longer used. Those unused legacy cans are completely wasting server resources.
Oh and if you haven't used those cans for 8 months, then why would having them unanchored make you quit eve? They clearly aren't that essential to you.
Also, when the devs have said one of the reasons they won't drop a wreck for each titan is because of this exact type of clutter, you have to ask yourselves why this issue hasn't been addressed. Oh yes, I remember why - it's because we all have to walk around inside the stations. -- 99% of Eve-o posters should stop posting. This probably includes me, but definitely includes you. |
Rashmika Clavain
Gallente Revelation Space
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Posted - 2007.09.04 13:18:00 -
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Edited by: Rashmika Clavain on 04/09/2007 13:18:18 hehe yeah i hope this is done... I was dotting around low sec recently nd came across a can belonging to someone who left my old corp and game a year before I'd even joined that aprticular corp.
I think a can tidy up would be fantastic, although somethinf will need to be implemented to stop people claiming the "good spots" at roid belts. Charters anyone?
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Shenko Minara
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Posted - 2007.09.05 08:14:00 -
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Originally by: Rashmika Clavain although somethinf will need to be implemented to stop people claiming the "good spots" at roid belts. Charters anyone?
You can't anchor cans in 0.8-1.0 space anyway. And there isn't the presence of the miners in the lower sec anymore, not like there used to be.
bumping this thread becuase that dudes idea up there ^^^^^ is a really good one and I want people to think about it. -- 99% of Eve-o posters should stop posting. This probably includes me, but definitely includes you. |
Stitcher
Caldari legion of qui Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.05 08:40:00 -
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but the speedway, man!
Please, think of the speedway. - The game is not the problem. The problem is that you are not adapting to the game.
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Venkul Mul
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.09.05 08:43:00 -
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List of anchored cans and remote detonating them = good
Unachoring cans in 0.8-1.0 = good
For all the other cans implementing a timer checked only at DT would be the solution with less burden for the database (I think). Some sort of fuel to keep them anchored could be useful too.
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Thommy
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Posted - 2007.09.05 10:48:00 -
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Check my calculations about what only 1 small set of cans would cost ccp.
It would be pretty clear ccp could even safe themselves money this way not to mention the database load it causes. After cleanup make an max deployable secure cans per person and make unanchored secure cans pop like the wrecks / jet cans (doesnt seem to happen because i have seen specific advertisement cans scoopable float at specific locations for days).
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Gane Green
Gallente Digital Foundry
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Posted - 2007.09.05 17:18:00 -
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Edited by: Gane Green on 05/09/2007 17:23:50 Edited by: Gane Green on 05/09/2007 17:21:39 Edited by: Gane Green on 05/09/2007 17:20:53 Edited by: Gane Green on 05/09/2007 17:19:59 Give us a module that works like a hack module but instead of breaking open the can it blows it up. Call the new proffesion can c r a c k ing. Dont let it invovle concord attacking you while you do this.
If you dont store your stuff at safe spots it deserves to get blown up. I jumped to an ice belt the other day and it look like a giant yellow space turd. belts we use to mine when we were noobs in our old systems have turned into yellow turds of cans.
The funny thing is people anchoring cans that cant reach anything then they realise it and leave it there instead of unanchoring. Give us a c4 chage to kill cans. make it to where it has to be a week unused before it can be blown to keep greifers from doing their thing.
Sorry for all the edits and all the spaces. It amazes me that *****ing is edited well ***** that in its *****inc ***** *****
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azura nester
Caldari White Shadow Imperium
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Posted - 2007.09.05 17:48:00 -
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this would get rid of a lot of macro mining as well. whos going to risk a macro mining hulk in low sec?
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Suitonia
Gallente Black Lagoon Inc.
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Posted - 2007.09.05 18:10:00 -
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This is a very good idea, please clean the cans out of hisec. Maybe there could be a spawn timer on cans, and they implode if not opened in 30 days or something, which would mean people who are using them can keep their cans in their current positions and players who are no longer using them/not active etc, won't be leaving their cans about.
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Admiral Black
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Posted - 2007.09.05 18:23:00 -
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screw the role playing. analyze the logs. -if a can has entries no newer than 1 year and is empty then delete it. If the can has cargo then place it in it's owner's hanger. -If a shuttle has no cargo and has no entries newer than 3 months, delete it. -if a noob ship has no cargo OTHER THAN 1 TRIT and has no entries newer than 1 month, delete it.
That should clear up quite a few million items in space.
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Loquetus
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Posted - 2007.09.05 18:31:00 -
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Why not just give all cans an expiration date. Say let them degrade and implode like jetcans but set them for a reasonable time limit, say 1 week or so? Those recovered before this happens take some damage and require repair.
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Wild Rho
Amarr Endgame.
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Posted - 2007.09.05 18:49:00 -
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A dev had said that all high sec anchored cans were going to be removed after a grace period several years ago. It's still to happen though.
I can only imagine how many resources this could free up looking at some high sec belts.
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Spicy Monkey
HOOTERZ INC.
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Posted - 2007.09.05 18:49:00 -
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Originally by: Loquetus Why not just give all cans an expiration date. Say let them degrade and implode like jetcans but set them for a reasonable time limit, say 1 week or so? Those recovered before this happens take some damage and require repair.
Sorry. I really don't like this idea.
It's a great idea to get the anchored cans out of high sec space though.
One thing CCP doesn't need is some process they have to manually attend to just to keep things clean. This is something that needs to be automated. if they want cans to disappear after 3 months of no use so be it... but one week is a little quick. What if someone goes on vacation?
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Vyyrus
An Eye For An Eye Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.09.05 18:51:00 -
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Give it a week all the cans will be back lol.
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Aaron
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Posted - 2007.09.05 19:42:00 -
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Originally by: Ishina Fel So is this actually happening, or are you just trying to give the Devs ideas?
I really like your sig, the IRON war room huh, its real funny,
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Shiner BockBeer
Go Go Gadget ForumPostingAlt
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Posted - 2007.09.05 20:30:00 -
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YES!
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Aesgrim
Northern Shadowrunners FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.05 20:42:00 -
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CCP should make the cans unanchor themselves after 24 hours in space. After that it would be free for all to scoop in the cans and reprocess them.
Some belts alone should net more trit from the cans than from the veldspar roids. Empirical evidence implies that people loves to complain. |
Leighanne
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Posted - 2007.09.06 05:09:00 -
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If you remove all the anchored cans from highsec you'll have to give something to the legitimate miners who are forced by CCP's high sec Ore thieve idea to use them to mine with.
You can't take away the only legitimatly secure way to mine ore without giving some kind of replacement.
Although most miners use jet cans this is technically an exploit and therefore cannot be considered as a legitmate replacement for anchored cans.
It also screws up any high sec mission runners who might use GSC to have a place to store their loot while mission running. (not saying they do - saying that some might)
I'm with you on the fact that unused anchored cans need to be removed ASAP - but if it means no high sec cans can be anchored again you also need to suggest a replacement mechanic.
One possibility would be MUCH larger GSC - then people wouldn't need to damm many.
But anyways - I know myself that I have high sec cans 'somewhere' that I've not used for over two years and are probably clogging up some poor persons fav mining belt.
thb I'd just love the ability to see them and remote detonate them possibly with a really big torp like explosion but doing no dmg of any sort - imagine how many people will wet themselves when cans suddenly start exploding around their mining ops teeheehee =P
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Savage Creampuff
Caldari Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.06 05:14:00 -
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If there were no more cans at gates, then where would i store all my bookmarks? |
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