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Endeavour Starfleet
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
566
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Posted - 2012.01.18 13:48:00 -
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For those that are cheering on CCPs nuking of the Drake from orbit (Under greenlight from the CSM instead of telling us about it before them) Do you seriously think that ships like the Tengu will be spared?
Under this new return to the Incarna mindset in my opinion. It is not about fixing lower tier or higher class craft so they actually get used in fleet battles. It is about nuking anything that is actually useable for a solo pilot or small group. The Tengu will coming if you sit back and let this Drake nerf go on without protest.
This is a "misery loves company" approach and should be protested against. Otherwise it will continue until it reaches your favorite craft to fly. |
Cannibal Kane
Count With Teddy Mercenaries
192
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Posted - 2012.01.18 13:50:00 -
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Endeavour Starfleet wrote:For those that are cheering on CCPs nuking of the Drake from orbit (Under greenlight from the CSM instead of telling us about it before them) Do you seriously think that ships like the Tengu will be spared?
Under this new return to the Incarna mindset in my opinion. It is not about fixing lower tier or higher class craft so they actually get used in fleet battles. It is about nuking anything that is actually useable for a solo pilot or small group. The Tengu will coming if you sit back and let this Drake nerf go on without protest.
This is a "misery loves company" approach and should be protested against. Otherwise it will continue until it reaches your favorite craft to fly.
You're a moron...
That is all that needs to be said. "Demoralize the Enemy from within by Surprise, Terror, Sabotage, Assassination. This method of Guarilla Warfare is the only Method of Warfare for me"
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Ursula LeGuinn
65
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Posted - 2012.01.18 13:51:00 -
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Cannibal Kane wrote:Your a moron...
I love it when people do this. "The EVE forums are intended to provide a warm, friendly atmosphere for the EVE community."-áGÇö-áEVElopedia |
Max Von Sydow
Droneboat Diplomacy
165
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Posted - 2012.01.18 13:54:00 -
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NERF? I'd almost call that a buff. |
Cannibal Kane
Count With Teddy Mercenaries
192
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Posted - 2012.01.18 13:55:00 -
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Ursula LeGuinn wrote:Cannibal Kane wrote:Your a moron... I love it when people do this.
Me too... especially when i forgot the ' and the "e" "Demoralize the Enemy from within by Surprise, Terror, Sabotage, Assassination. This method of Guarilla Warfare is the only Method of Warfare for me"
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Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
1200
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Posted - 2012.01.18 13:57:00 -
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HAM drake shooting 30 k with rage and dealing explosive damage against regressive imperialists checking in.
The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom. Jericho Fraction is Recruiting! |
Endeavour Starfleet
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
566
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Posted - 2012.01.18 13:59:00 -
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Max Von Sydow wrote:NERF? I'd almost call that a buff.
Without the tank the drake is useless. A bit of extra range wont help when your expensive BC hull is instapopped by a small alpha fleet. Mise well fly a BS cruiser to get through the CTA and then go puke in some belt in frustration while an alliance leader counts this months moon goo production. |
Lexmana
Imperial Stout
164
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Posted - 2012.01.18 14:02:00 -
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You mad?
Let me guess ... Drakes and Tengus is what you fly. And that is how you like it. |
Endeavour Starfleet
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
567
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Posted - 2012.01.18 14:16:00 -
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Lexmana wrote:You mad?
Let me guess ... Drakes and Tengus is what you fly. And that is how you like it.
I have not trained to fly a Tengu. Training that would mean months of training before I even purchased the hull itself. Because I don't halfass my training.
If you see a Drake owning you somewhere solo it is because the pilot spent a good chuck of a year training for it. Yet people will have you think they are the next best thing from a carrier or titan.
Yet there are many Tengu pilots out there mistakenly drolling over increased LP prices not realizing that the excuse to nerf the Drake is even easier with them. |
Ciar Meara
Virtus Vindice
484
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Posted - 2012.01.18 14:18:00 -
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Your playing EVE, everything gets nerfed in EVE eventually...
Especially now that TomB has rejoined the Reykjavik office, I bet he is denerfing his nerfbat as we speak... - [img]http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/janus/ceosig.jpg[/img] [yellow]English only please. Zymurgist[/yellow] |
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Tore Vest
Vikinghall
135
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Posted - 2012.01.18 14:32:00 -
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CCP are good at nerfing..... |
Endeavour Starfleet
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
568
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Posted - 2012.01.18 14:32:00 -
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Ciar Meara wrote:Your playing EVE, everything gets nerfed in EVE eventually...
Especially now that TomB has rejoined the Reykjavik office, I bet he is denerfing his nerfbat as we speak...
They get nerfed when fools don't speak up about it and go on pretending it won't happen. I am protesting and asking for it not to happen. |
Rel'k Bloodlor
Mecha Enterprises Fleet
82
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Posted - 2012.01.18 14:39:00 -
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Your argument is that its a nerf, its not. shield hp didn't get talked about, nor did mid slots. all that was discussed was 5%resit 5%ken damage to 5%ROF 10%velocity. so rave's and cori's are already busted? so ROF is worse than 5% to one damage type?
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Juliana Stinger
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
7
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Posted - 2012.01.18 14:41:00 -
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CSM = Blizzard |
Akrasjel Lanate
Naquatech Conglomerate
513
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Posted - 2012.01.18 15:57:00 -
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Meh... Nerf Drake |
Kingwood
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
45
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Posted - 2012.01.18 16:01:00 -
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Endeavour Starfleet wrote:For those that are cheering on CCPs nuking of the Drake from orbit (Under greenlight from the CSM instead of telling us about it before them) Do you seriously think that ships like the Tengu will be spared?
Under this new return to the Incarna mindset in my opinion. It is not about fixing lower tier or higher class craft so they actually get used in fleet battles. It is about nuking anything that is actually useable for a solo pilot or small group. The Tengu will coming if you sit back and let this Drake nerf go on without protest.
This is a "misery loves company" approach and should be protested against. Otherwise it will continue until it reaches your favorite craft to fly.
It's a change, not a nerf. If this is a troll it's a pretty good one. If it's not, you should probably take a deep breath, shut down your computer and take a long walk - you're investing far too much energy into an internet spaceship change. |
Alara IonStorm
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Posted - 2012.01.18 16:08:00 -
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[Drake, Heavy] Damage Control II Co-Processor II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II
Large Shield Extender II Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction Invulnerability Field II Invulnerability Field II Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive Warp Disruptor II
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile [empty high slot]
Medium Core Defence Field Extender I Medium Core Defence Field Extender I Medium Core Defence Field Extender I
Warrior II x5
I removed the 25% Resist Bonus. It gets 80619 EHP, 450 DPS, Range past it's lock.
[Drake, HAM] Damage Control II Power Diagnostic System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II
Large Shield Extender II Invulnerability Field II Invulnerability Field II Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive Warp Scrambler II X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Torrent Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Torrent Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Torrent Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Torrent Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Torrent Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Torrent Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Torrent Assault Missile Small Energy Neutralizer II
Medium Core Defence Field Extender I Medium Core Defence Field Extender I Medium Core Defence Field Extender I
Warrior II x5
69933K EHP, 525 DPS, 30 KM Range.
Post buff Drake still has a pretty damn big Buffer Tank, Ok DPS and good range. With a very small fitting buff and it will be perfect. Get rid you the Canes double DPS Bonus and I might just call it Balance. =p |
Krixtal Icefluxor
Bison - Ammatar Thunder Thundering Herd
251
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Posted - 2012.01.18 16:12:00 -
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Endeavour Starfleet wrote:For those that are cheering on CCPs nuking of the Drake from orbit (Under greenlight from the CSM instead of telling us about it before them) Do you seriously think that ships like the Tengu will be spared?
Under this new return to the Incarna mindset in my opinion. It is not about fixing lower tier or higher class craft so they actually get used in fleet battles. It is about nuking anything that is actually useable for a solo pilot or small group. The Tengu will coming if you sit back and let this Drake nerf go on without protest.
This is a "misery loves company" approach and should be protested against. Otherwise it will continue until it reaches your favorite craft to fly.
Between my Drake and my Tengu......a Nighthawk or Vulture are REDUNDANT options.
That Drake has been too overpowered for FIVE years at least.
Time for it to get a zap.
And I love my Drake.
And why can I do Level IV's in a freaking cruiser (Strategic) for sakes????
The game ships are indeed imbalanced and this is a much welcome change. OMG He Spent His Free-áAURUM ! God is simply-áthe very extraordinary power of the Universe to organize Itself as percieved. -á-á- Lee Smolin "Three Roads to Quantum Gravity" |
Caldari Citizen20090217
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
13
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Posted - 2012.01.18 16:16:00 -
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Tbh 5% ROF on a drake is nice. No more annoying kinetic bonus, more DPS (700dps drake @ 30km ought to be easily doable), at the cost of some resists. Drake will still have a huge buffer, just no longer BS sized. If anything, after this 'nerf' there will be more whines from people claiming HML logi/drake fleets are overpowered due to their ability to spam heavy missiles from >200km.
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Nick Bison
Bison Industrial Inc Thundering Herd
4
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Posted - 2012.01.18 16:17:00 -
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Endeavour Starfleet wrote:
... This is a "misery loves company" approach and should be protested against. Otherwise it will continue until it reaches your favorite craft to fly.
I fly Gallente, all my ships come pre-nerfed or have already been nerfed to near uselessness. Welcome to the club ...
Nick
PS - obligatory, "you mad?" |
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Cpt Greagor
Liquid Relief
279
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Posted - 2012.01.20 13:01:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:And why can I do Level IV's in a freaking cruiser (Strategic) for sakes????
Maybe because it is the most advanced ship currently in game, made from technology salvaged from ships packed with ai far more advanced than anything we currently have in game.
Just a thought. |
Lors Dornick
Kallisti Industries
155
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Posted - 2012.01.20 13:09:00 -
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Endeavour Starfleet wrote: (Under greenlight from the CSM instead of telling us about it before them)
Are you aware of the concept known as an NDA?
A legally binding non-disclosure agreement?
Something that all members of all CSM's has signed.
Is it possible that such a fact might have something do with why CCP shares their ideas with the CSM before they release those (possibly modified) ideas to the general public? |
Raneru
Euphoria Released 0ccupational Hazzard
30
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Posted - 2012.01.20 13:44:00 -
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Endeavour Starfleet wrote:For those that are cheering on CCPs nuking of the Drake from orbit (Under greenlight from the CSM instead of telling us about it before them) Do you seriously think that ships like the Tengu will be spared?
No, they are doing the Tengu next. Looks like its time for some people to diversify their ship collection
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Cyzlaki
Interstellar eXodus BricK sQuAD.
208
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Posted - 2012.01.20 13:48:00 -
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drake is getting buffed you idiot |
Rhinanna
CyberShield Inc ROMANIAN-LEGION
103
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Posted - 2012.01.20 13:52:00 -
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LOL, you realise the 'cane already had it's nerf? It used to have 8 gun slots, thats when it was OP and actually on-par with the Drake (double the dps, half the tank)
Now its 1.5 times the dps, half the tank, even with this change you won't be seeing much change in the drake vs 'cane situation. 'Cane (if the pilot is good) will normally win 1v1 but Drake will be better for fleets because of the higher difficulty in alphaing it and the ease of logi support. If anything just changing the bonuses is not a nerf at all, simply a change when the drake does need a slight nerf it's long-range fleet capabilities such as a large speed reduction or a sensor range reduction. -The sword is only as sharp as the one who wields it! Other names: Drenzul (WoT, WoW, Lineage 2, WarH, BloodBowl, BSG, SC2 and lots more)-á |
Wacktopia
Noir.
145
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Posted - 2012.01.20 14:38:00 -
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I'm bored sick of the Drake. TBH I'm not too bothered if they nerf it. Apparently we're getting censored now. |
Roosterton
Shattered Star Exiles SpaceMonkey's Alliance
250
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Posted - 2012.01.20 14:47:00 -
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Bad for PVE, good for PVP. I like.
After putting a bit more thought in, this is actually awesome for PVE, since you can deal full DPS to any rats regardless of damage type. |
Karash Amerius
Sutoka
32
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Posted - 2012.01.20 15:36:00 -
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Good to see things getting back to normal around here with all the "sky is falling" poasts about everyone's favorite FOTM(Y). |
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
321
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Posted - 2012.01.20 15:57:00 -
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Drake tears, best tears.
Also, they better nerf the friggin Tengu, along with adding a bunch of mass to all battlecruisers. Down with FotM! |
J Kunjeh
335
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Posted - 2012.01.20 16:02:00 -
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Posting in a "they nerfed my drake...whaaaaa!" thread. Oh, and posting in yet another Endeavour whine thread...don't you have Incursions to farm or something? "The world as we know it came about through an anomaly (anomou)" (The Gospel of Philip, 1-5)-á |
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