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Ogdru Jahad
Amarr Vendetta Underground Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.09.12 19:35:00 -
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Just wondering what you all personally think about such an idea?
say 300 usd and one account has a life time of the game subscription till the servers are closed for good.
Discusss by all means the pro and the cons. -
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2007.09.12 19:38:00 -
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well... eve is going to be around for 10 years easy, so you'd be ripping CCP off.
wouldn't mind a 240$ for 2 year though :) ----------------------------------- I'm working my way through college target CCP need...more room... |
Thanos Draicon
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Posted - 2007.09.12 19:38:00 -
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I'd be willing to do that.
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Sevarus James
Minmatar Meridian Dynamics FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.12 19:40:00 -
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300.00 / 14.95 = 20 months subscription
For me that would mean that the last 20 months have been free. (joined: 6/2003)
Simple economics indicates that this will never happen, nor should it.
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chrisreeves
Gallente Asgard Protectorate Betrayal Under Mayhem
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Posted - 2007.09.12 19:42:00 -
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300 usd is about what it costs for just under 2 years. That would make no kind of business sense to give a life time subscription for that little. However the idea of a lifetime subscription is a nice thought but I think it would need to be a lot higher than that. -----------------
Originally by: kieron The Ibis was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile.
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Ogdru Jahad
Amarr Vendetta Underground Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.09.12 20:22:00 -
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Originally by: chrisreeves 300 usd is about what it costs for just under 2 years. That would make no kind of business sense to give a life time subscription for that little. However the idea of a lifetime subscription is a nice thought but I think it would need to be a lot higher than that.
Just wondering as there is "another" mmorpg that does just that for one of thier games. strangly enough its 299 usd. I am sure its 299. -
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CCP Wrangler
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Posted - 2007.09.12 20:26:00 -
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Originally by: Ogdru Jahad
Originally by: chrisreeves 300 usd is about what it costs for just under 2 years. That would make no kind of business sense to give a life time subscription for that little. However the idea of a lifetime subscription is a nice thought but I think it would need to be a lot higher than that.
Just wondering as there is "another" mmorpg that does just that for one of thier games. strangly enough its 299 usd. I am sure its 299.
LOTRO did it for 249.99 EUR, but then they only sold 5000 boxes with that offer.
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Nyphur
Pillowsoft Total Comfort
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Posted - 2007.09.12 20:32:00 -
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Companies only offer lifetime subs if they expect the people who buy them would ordinarily quit after a few months or they expect the game won't be around a year from now.
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i take
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Posted - 2007.09.12 20:33:00 -
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it is a bad idea, because there would be a point when it wouldn't be worth adding anything new to the game as most of the player base money(or the money they had payid) would already have been used and thereby it would compromise the future quality of the game.
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i take
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Posted - 2007.09.12 20:34:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Wrangler
Originally by: Ogdru Jahad
Originally by: chrisreeves 300 usd is about what it costs for just under 2 years. That would make no kind of business sense to give a life time subscription for that little. However the idea of a lifetime subscription is a nice thought but I think it would need to be a lot higher than that.
Just wondering as there is "another" mmorpg that does just that for one of thier games. strangly enough its 299 usd. I am sure its 299.
Codemasters did it with LOTRO for 249.99 EUR, but then they only sold 5000 boxes with that offer.
well lotr was the worst mmo ever made it freaking hurts to play it... while eve wouldn't have much other then life time subscribers if they did this..
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Ogdru Jahad
Amarr Vendetta Underground Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.09.12 20:38:00 -
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Edited by: Ogdru Jahad on 12/09/2007 20:39:23
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
Originally by: Ogdru Jahad
Originally by: chrisreeves 300 usd is about what it costs for just under 2 years. That would make no kind of business sense to give a life time subscription for that little. However the idea of a lifetime subscription is a nice thought but I think it would need to be a lot higher than that.
Just wondering as there is "another" mmorpg that does just that for one of thier games. strangly enough its 299 usd. I am sure its 299.
Codemasters did it with LOTRO for 249.99 EUR, but then they only sold 5000 boxes with that offer.
wow a *moderator* reply i am impressed
not to sound picky Mr wrangler. but that company you mention now do 299 life time subs. via thier accounts page. my mates are looking into a life time sub -
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Nate D
New Atlantis Tek Corporation The Nexus Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.12 20:41:00 -
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Edited by: Nate D on 12/09/2007 20:41:33 I'd pay $1000 for a lifetime subscription. I'm sure EVE will last longer than 10 years so it would be well worth it.
However with $1000 spent out of pocket I'd want faster support queues for 10 year or so, I'd also want the agreement of partial refunds if anyone ever decided to ban my account for any reason, etc.
I don't need any special recognition or anything... just a higher priority.
-Nate
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Avon
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.12 21:57:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Wrangler
Originally by: Ogdru Jahad
Originally by: chrisreeves 300 usd is about what it costs for just under 2 years. That would make no kind of business sense to give a life time subscription for that little. However the idea of a lifetime subscription is a nice thought but I think it would need to be a lot higher than that.
Just wondering as there is "another" mmorpg that does just that for one of thier games. strangly enough its 299 usd. I am sure its 299.
Codemasters did it with LOTRO for 249.99 EUR, but then they only sold 5000 boxes with that offer.
Yes, but anyone who bought the "preview" release (end of beta) for a handful of euros was also entitled to buy a lifetime subscription when the game was released. I did.
The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur
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Elmicker
The Phoenix Rising FreeFall Securities
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Posted - 2007.09.12 21:59:00 -
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Edited by: Elmicker on 12/09/2007 21:59:14
Originally by: CCP Wrangler Codemasters did it with LOTRO for 249.99 EUR, but then they only sold 5000 boxes with that offer.
You don't need any "box" to get the lifetime subscription. It's available to any player. It was also available earlier and cheaper to any beta testers or anyone who pre-ordered the game.
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Blind Man
Angel Deep Corporation
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Posted - 2007.09.12 22:22:00 -
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id hit it
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Derovius Vaden
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Posted - 2007.09.12 22:27:00 -
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Another game has done something >similar< to this, its name is World War II Online. Players can pay something like $500 USD for a bronze "builder" package, or $1000 USD for a silver "builder" package (or something along those lines, I've not played the game in years). For this, they get a life long subscription to the game, and a "monument" in game with their name or a select amount of text on it. These monuments are not giant statues or anything like that, but bridges that players need to cross or buildings/bunkers players can hide/fight in.
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Adonis 4174
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Posted - 2007.09.12 22:52:00 -
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Originally by: Nyphur Companies only offer lifetime subs if they expect the people who buy them would ordinarily quit after a few months or they expect the game won't be around a year from now.
Or if they need money and expect to be able to sell subscriptions based on what they do with the money they raise. ----- Visible Implants - good for so many occasions |
Daelorn
State War Academy
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Posted - 2007.09.12 23:42:00 -
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Edited by: Daelorn on 12/09/2007 23:42:45
My free WoW account...
Too bad I don't play it
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Sacrophage Nexus
AWE Corporation Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2007.09.12 23:44:00 -
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I believe that Flagship Studios is doing a lifetime subscription for the upcoming Hellgate: London game.
Can't wait for that to come out -- been waiting for about 2-3 years. But even an avid fan, I don't think i'd spend a few hundred large for a lifetime sub. It's certainly a bit of a risk because of the underlying message it puts forth.
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Zegox
Z-Mart Inc
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Posted - 2007.09.13 02:46:00 -
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Bad idea; the monthly subscriptions keep the devs hopping so they don't lose people. If a large part of the population buys these lifetime subscriptions, then where is the motivation for the devs to keep improving the game? After all, they've already got everything they were going to get out of you.
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Jatonix
Target Practice Inc. Pure.
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Posted - 2007.09.13 03:30:00 -
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LOTR did it because they knew that the game was garbage, and people would quit after a month or so. 300 for a month? Ohhh yeah for them!
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Verite Rendition
Caldari AUS Corporation CORE.
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Posted - 2007.09.13 06:16:00 -
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Originally by: Sacrophage Nexus I believe that Flagship Studios is doing a lifetime subscription for the upcoming Hellgate: London game.
Can't wait for that to come out -- been waiting for about 2-3 years. But even an avid fan, I don't think i'd spend a few hundred large for a lifetime sub. It's certainly a bit of a risk because of the underlying message it puts forth.
That's not an MMO though, that's just a ripoff. ---- AUS Corp Lead Megalomanic EVE Automated Influence Map: Keeping Down The Clone Business Since 2007AD |
Julien Mornier
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Posted - 2007.09.13 06:26:00 -
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Eh, I think that I would go $200 at most for such a plan, which would have a pay off (for me) slightly past the average MMO subscription, since I enjoy the game. For CCP, of course, the value would be slightly higher as they would have investment income from the prepayement as well. I suspect that it really would not be worthwhile for either of us on those terms.
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Niccolado Starwalker
Shadow Templars
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Posted - 2007.09.13 06:32:00 -
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Originally by: Ogdru Jahad Just wondering what you all personally think about such an idea?
say 300 usd and one account has a life time of the game subscription till the servers are closed for good.
Discusss by all means the pro and the cons.
As a player of EVE I would simply LOVE to pay 300 dollar for a lifetime EVE Subscription. Why? because I will do just that: Play the game for a (my) lifetime!
As a Dev of EVE I would have hated to offer a 300 dollar lifetime subscription. Why? Because I know People LOVE this game, and will play it for a lifetime! Also, they who would sign up on such a deal are they who plans to play it for a lifetime! Not those who plans to play it for less then 7 months. And a Lifetime is more then 20 months
Its a sound plan though. But 300 dollar is far too little. Now, 500 to 750 dollar maybe? 1000? Then possibly.
Originally by: Splagada you're on eve-o, just go for blunt insults and random crap, please!
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Jatonix
Target Practice Inc. Pure.
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Posted - 2007.09.13 06:36:00 -
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Originally by: Daelorn Edited by: Daelorn on 12/09/2007 23:42:45
My free WoW account...
Too bad I don't play it
How did you come across free subs for wow?
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Shadowsword
COLSUP Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2007.09.13 07:22:00 -
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Originally by: Sacrophage Nexus I believe that Flagship Studios is doing a lifetime subscription for the upcoming Hellgate: London game.
Can't wait for that to come out -- been waiting for about 2-3 years. But even an avid fan, I don't think i'd spend a few hundred large for a lifetime sub. It's certainly a bit of a risk because of the underlying message it puts forth.
AFAIK, it's not FSS itself that do that subscription, but a reseller. And the smallprint say that the subscription is valid only for the original game, so when FSS will do an extension (you can count on it), you'll have to choose between not using the extension or paying.
But Hellgate isn't exactly a MMORPG, it's more a solo/multi game that has some aditionnal paying addons, like dungeons, weapons, things like that. ------------------------------------------
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Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.13 08:08:00 -
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Originally by: chrisreeves 300 usd is about what it costs for just under 2 years. That would make no kind of business sense to give a life time subscription for that little. However the idea of a lifetime subscription is a nice thought but I think it would need to be a lot higher than that.
Well its a bit of a gamble on the company's part. The average play time of an EVE player is apparently 7 months. If a 7 monther happens to buy a "lifetime subscription" for the price of 2 years monthly sub, then CCP have made triple the money out of that person. Even if they come back in the future, thats still a lot of months that the company have money from a customer that isn't costing them anything.
On the flip side, if the person happens to be a 4 year dedicated player, then the company loses money.
I doubt CCP would do it. doesn't make very sound business sense. ------
Originally by: CCP Prism X There's no such thing as playing too much EvE! You all obviously need more accounts! |
Gold Rogers
Solitude Empires United Freemen Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.13 08:39:00 -
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The thing with Lotro and other similiar MMOs is they can be pick up and play games I have a friend that paid for the life time sub, and doesn't even play. He did it purely so he can play on and off when he feels fit and in the long run it will save him money.
Not to mention there's no re-activing / cancelling needed.
Now with Eve if people had a life time sub they'd log in anyway even if they didn't want to play just to set skills so they can remain competitive. "Here's $300 i'll just set skills training for the next few years then when I actually play i'll be uber". Not really the best idea in the world.
Plus you also have people that ebay accounts they'd start to make a lot of profit, seller buys a load of accounts with a life time sub purely for the purpose of training the account so they can sell it at a later date. I know it's against the EULA but we all know it still happens.
Not to mention games like Lotro keep the average players attention for what 1 - 2 years max? Once you hit end game there's not a lot to do in a story based / leveling gained by exp game. So I highly doubt anyone with a life time sub will play the game until the server goes down.
Eve has no end game as such so these people really would be around until the server goes down therefore CCP would lose a lot of money, like I said earlier they'd login even if it was just to train. ---------
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Adonis 4174
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Posted - 2007.09.13 09:00:00 -
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Thinking about it, this could make sense as a buddy program prize.
Either on a special date or just to mark the opening of the latest biggest gaming supercomputer ever, let it be known that the more people you introduce the better your chances of winning a lifetime membership for yourself and another for a random one of the people you introduced.
I could see the press loving it too. ----- Visible Implants - good for so many occasions |
franny
Phoenix Knights Dark Nebula Galactic Empire
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Posted - 2007.09.13 09:06:00 -
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Originally by: Jatonix
Originally by: Daelorn
My free WoW account...
Too bad I don't play it
How did you come across free subs for wow?
ya, how? my kids would be beyond thrilled if I got them both WoW accts PKKP recruitment |
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