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Gingerlo
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Posted - 2007.09.13 21:53:00 -
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Hello all,
watch out guys , this guy scams you till death he wants to be your friend and then steals your money. He is not honest and a liar. I got lots of screenshots he lied to me.
So becarefull
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Cpt Fina
Insult to Injury
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Posted - 2007.09.13 21:59:00 -
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Will do
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The Jam
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Posted - 2007.09.13 22:22:00 -
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Originally by: Gingerlo Hello all,
watch out guys , this guy scams you till death he wants to be your friend and then steals your money. He is not honest and a liar. I got lots of screenshots he lied to me.
So becarefull
If you got screen shots lets see them.
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Curzon Dax
The Ninja Coalition
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Posted - 2007.09.13 22:49:00 -
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This from a scammer's alt.
I look forward to Deckard telling us the real story. :)
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Setana Manoro
Gallente Firefly Inc.
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Posted - 2007.09.13 22:51:00 -
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Edited by: Setana Manoro on 13/09/2007 22:51:35
Originally by: Curzon Dax This from a scammer's alt.
I look forward to Deckard telling us the real story. :)
Read the OP again. He said deckerx and not Deckard ... literacy is so underrated nowadays. :(
I'm not neutral in RAGOON vs BOB, I just dislike both sides. :) |
Deckerx
Beasts of Burden YouWhat
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Posted - 2007.09.13 23:04:00 -
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WOW THIS SHOULD BE A INTERESTING READ:
so this chump convos me on my account Carroll becuase im looking to sell a ogre II bpo in the Blueprints channel (completly legitly i might add) he tells me its worth 5b or so..lol I then tell him id sell it for 8b to 10b maybe he takes about 5mins and convos my character deckerx and asked if i would like to buy a ogre II bpo for 12b.. I FIND THIS INTERESTING he found my name becuase deckerx is the character i used to buy the bpo months ago. So he starts trying to scam me.....
He doesnt have 8b to buy the bpo and then contracts it me so instead he had me send a (PROMISS MAIL) his words. that i would accept the contract from carroll for 8b and then send him 4b ---- this where i flip it i told him i only had 7.5b and needed him to send me 500m and i would then just send him 4.5b once i got home from work and was able to get on my computer and have multiple accounts open. so he sent me 500m isk and then another 500m to carroll 4 hours later becuase i changed the sell price to 8.5 after he sent 500m to dekcerx... This is a classic tale of the newb getinng screwed.
Then he had the gull to send petitions say in sold him false time cards and bought isk from him and such.... Well i sent my own petitions for harrassment and i win (just got the post back from the gm's)
And then to try to discredit me ( ive played this game for 3 years and never met such a tard )
Thanks for trying to get my accounts banned. Try to stop scamming people.
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Jirai Grepher
Creative Destruction EternalRising
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Posted - 2007.09.13 23:11:00 -
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Originally by: Deckerx Edited by: Deckerx on 13/09/2007 23:09:11 Edited by: Deckerx on 13/09/2007 23:07:39 WOW THIS SHOULD BE A INTERESTING READ:
so this chump convos me on my account Carroll becuase im looking to sell a ogre II bpo in the Blueprints channel (completly legitly i might add) he tells me its worth 5b or so..lol I then tell him id sell it for 8b to 10b maybe he takes about 5mins and convos my character deckerx and asked if i would like to buy a ogre II bpo for 12b.. I FIND THIS INTERESTING he found my name becuase deckerx is the character i used to buy the bpo months ago. So he starts trying to scam me.....
He doesnt have 8b to buy the bpo and then contracts it me so instead he had me send a (PROMISS MAIL) his words. that i would accept the contract from carroll for 8b and then send him 4b ---- this where i flip it i told him i only had 7.5b and needed him to send me 500m and i would then just send him 4.5b once i got home from work and was able to get on my computer and have multiple accounts open. so he sent me 500m isk and then another 500m to carroll 4 hours later becuase i changed the sell price to 8.5 after he sent 500m to dekcerx... This is a classic tale of the newb getinng screwed.
Then he had the gull to send petitions say i sold him false time cards and bought isk from him and such.... Well i sent my own petitions for harrassment and i win (just got the post back from the gm's)
And then to try to discredit me ( ive played this game for 3 years and never met such a tard )
Thanks for trying to get my accounts banned. Try to stop scamming people.
SO AT THE END OF THE DAY I TOOK 1B OFF A CHARACTER TRYING TO SKIM ME FOR 4B... NO SCAM IN THAT
sounds like the intended pwner got pwned in the process.
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Curzon Dax
The Ninja Coalition
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Posted - 2007.09.13 23:19:00 -
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Originally by: Setana Manoro Edited by: Setana Manoro on 13/09/2007 22:51:35
Originally by: Curzon Dax This from a scammer's alt.
I look forward to Deckard telling us the real story. :)
Read the OP again. He said deckerx and not Deckard ... literacy is so underrated nowadays. :(
Yeah yeah, I meant Decker. He found out about this thread from me. =p
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Temp Boi
Gr0und Zer0
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Posted - 2007.09.14 01:50:00 -
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Decker, you win.
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Liang Nuren
The Refugees
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Posted - 2007.09.14 02:06:00 -
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Originally by: Deckerx
SO AT THE END OF THE DAY I TOOK 1B OFF A CHARACTER TRYING TO SKIM ME FOR 4B... NO SCAM IN THAT
GJ.. lol!
Liang
Yarr? |
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Kirex
Vale Heavy Industries Molotov Coalition
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Posted - 2007.09.14 04:34:00 -
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Haha owned.
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Bardi MecAuldnis
Amarr Heretic Army Fang Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.14 04:49:00 -
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Good Jaerb!!! --- Hey hey let's go kenka suru! Taisetsuna mono protect my balls! Boku ga warui so lets fighting! LET'S FIGHTING LOVE!!! |
Trishan
Green Men Incorporated
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Posted - 2007.09.14 08:55:00 -
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Originally by: Deckerx
SO AT THE END OF THE DAY I TOOK 1B OFF A CHARACTER TRYING TO SKIM ME FOR 4B... NO SCAM IN THAT
HE WASN'T TRYING TO SCAM YOU FROM WHAT YOU SAY, HE WAS TRYING TO BUY LOW AND SELL HIGH; PERFECT GOOD OLD TRADING THAT DIDN'T GO THROUGH DUE TO A DUAL ACCOUNT INVOLVING BOTH THE BUYER AND SELLER. OOPS.
That being said, it was pretty pretty sad to read that he falsely accused you of buying isks and such. But I guess some people will see it as "advanced metagaming".
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Hairtrigger
Sanguine Legion
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Posted - 2007.09.14 11:07:00 -
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Edited by: Hairtrigger on 14/09/2007 11:07:32 theres a name ive not seen in a good while Its DT so carnt check P&P, Is that the carroll i know?
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Cruthensis
Gallente Farmer Killers United Corporations Against Macros
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Posted - 2007.09.14 12:12:00 -
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Edited by: Cruthensis on 14/09/2007 12:12:39 Sounds like he was looking for a shortcut to 4bill. Deserved all he got imo.
(and...my eyes! caps lock off ya? )
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Elliott Manchild
omen.
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Posted - 2007.09.14 12:22:00 -
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owned
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Mik kyo
Gr0und Zer0
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Posted - 2007.09.14 14:20:00 -
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wraffl
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Fire Born
Beasts of Burden YouWhat
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Posted - 2007.09.15 02:38:00 -
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You Sir Are Now Dubbed " Sir Awesome" -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-
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Will Strafe
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Posted - 2007.09.15 02:52:00 -
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So he was trying to do business and you stole from him?
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Flinx Evenstar
Minmatar Spartan Industries Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2007.09.15 03:03:00 -
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The exciting world of BPO transactions
I, erm, like kill things and stuff |
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Ilvan
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Posted - 2007.09.15 05:05:00 -
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Originally by: Will Strafe So he was trying to do business and you stole from him?
Sounds more like the guy was trying to make a fast buck and Deckerx turned the tables on him. Good for him I say.
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Dread Operative
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.09.15 05:06:00 -
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Kill him
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Deckerx
Beasts of Burden YouWhat
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Posted - 2007.09.15 08:13:00 -
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(So he was trying to do business and you stole from him?)
No sir you must understand that eve is a community of honor and respect. Rep is more important in this game than anything else some might say. I have always believed in keeping my honor solid and not to do under handed shady things. For a person to try to buy a item for 8b and sell it directly to me for 12b is wrong on alot of different levels, as a business person (right on the level with used car sales man). So since he showed me ZERO respect and have not a decent bone yea i took advantage of him before he could take advantage of me or another person (maybe i thought him a little leason)... If he had wanted to sell me the bpo for 9b or maybe even 10b ..... it would have still be a good deal for me and him. And i would have told him he convoed my other character, but becuase he was trying to screw me out of isk, by charging a giant imflated price. He deserved any and everything he got. The End
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Ben Nato
Beasts of Burden YouWhat
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Posted - 2007.09.15 08:53:00 -
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I hate you Decker for not sharing any of that money with my poor arse, other than that I laughed a lot. Good going mate!!
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Captian Internet
Lead Bricks
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Posted - 2007.09.15 09:21:00 -
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How does one get scammed to death?
It reminds me of a futurama scene where fry goes to by some gills from a street merchant and they offer to trade for his lungs
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Trishan
Green Men Incorporated
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Posted - 2007.09.15 09:43:00 -
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Originally by: Deckerx (So he was trying to do business and you stole from him?)
No sir you must understand that eve is a community of honor and respect. Rep is more important in this game than anything else some might say. I have always believed in keeping my honor solid and not to do under handed shady things. For a person to try to buy a item for 8b and sell it directly to me for 12b is wrong on alot of different levels, as a business person (right on the level with used car sales man). So since he showed me ZERO respect and have not a decent bone yea i took advantage of him before he could take advantage of me or another person (maybe i thought him a little leason)... If he had wanted to sell me the bpo for 9b or maybe even 10b ..... it would have still be a good deal for me and him. And i would have told him he convoed my other character, but becuase he was trying to screw me out of isk, by charging a giant imflated price. He deserved any and everything he got. The End
So if someone "inflates" the price of, say, faction ammo by a 30% they are screwing you out of isks? What about barrage? Or T2 ships? One could argue that it was you who wanted to buy the BPO at too high a price, and he was happy to oblige.
You are no hero here, and he is no villian either (except when we get to the isk selling part).
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Callthetruth
Caldari Drunken Ratbags Inc
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Posted - 2007.09.15 10:42:00 -
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so .....
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Deckerx
Beasts of Burden YouWhat
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Posted - 2007.09.15 12:03:00 -
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this is where we differ in opinion! i feel that if a product is on market for a price you make a valid choice and the prices are regulated by competition. what he was trying to do may be valid (but morally wrong and not adventageous to the seller or buyer) or himself. As a crued business man my goal is to make both if not at least 1 of the people im serving a return customer and happy. By buying extremly low and having greed to make a killing he screwed himself and deserved it and on top of that he had carroll set the contract directly to deckerx. he literal told me he was going to make 4b off me, because he could. Its not a question of correct dynamics it a question of moral fortitude and questionable business practices. He is a scum ball and has been know to be a scammer i knew this when he contract me.
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Zerolaws
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Posted - 2007.09.23 09:15:00 -
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/// BEWARE of SCAMMER ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
Please be aware of an player identity called "Deckerx". He is a scammer and clearly admitted clearly that he is a scammer in our last chat session with him. These are his own words from this chat session, below;
[ 2007.09.23 07:47:08 ] Deckerx > YOU LOSE [ 2007.09.23 07:47:10 ] Deckerx > I WIN [ 2007.09.23 07:47:16 ] Deckerx > YOU GOT SCAMMED [ 2007.09.23 07:47:31 ] Deckerx > NOTHING YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT [ 2007.09.23 07:47:36 ] Deckerx > ITS CALLED EVE [ 2007.09.23 07:47:46 ] Deckerx > WORDS OF ADVISE [ 2007.09.23 07:47:56 ] Deckerx > NEVER NEVER NEVER TRUST ANYONE IN THIS GAME This chat was about me expecting him to finish the deal that we had agreed upon and me alredy have payed him fully but him not returning the items or not refunding me.
Besides he accuses me getting the credits illegally which is not true. He acccuses you and try to find an issue of yours to use it against you. And when he cant, he uses a very offensive language sometimes, accusing you, threatening you, trying to supress you, using help of other characters to paint the facts, to deceive you, always trying to trick you into saying things that he may use. Very clever, manipulative, aggresive and tricky guy. Acting totally unethical and also unashamed about that, no conscience or moral ethics which makes us differ from other life forms living on this space. Very harmful and evil and he acts like he is enjoying it, which is way over pervert and soulsick.
The ISKs lost because of this scam and the offenses provided with this guy may be swallowed, things happen like that. A trusting person may be cheated always but that person should not be punished or offended because of this. It is the wrong edge of the sword. The least thing that I will feel is being ashamed of me scammed. Shame on Deckerx, not me. Also I dont operate with hateful feelings, rules and system is around just for this type of guys. I am just a simple player without any rules enforcement and judging roles in this game. But I believe justice will prevail as always.
The details of this scam is being dealt with game masters currently by methods allowed here, mainly petitions. It is not my duty to judge and penalize accordingly so I left it to the game masters as it should be. And this is why I dont provide the rest of the details of the deal and logged chats and messages of what happened as of now. But I also asked game masters for permission to provide these to the public here, so everybody may defend themselves from such scammers and metagamers that decreases the quality of the game.
Even if nothing comes out of the petititons about him, and scammimg is allowed like he states, dont buy anything from him or deal with him, unless you like to be scammed in the end. This guy is not a respectful tradesman or player and he is not alone. He acts together with other guys to trick you or perform theatrical acts on chat sessions like fake war scenarios going on, manipulating kill records, and many dark and cloudy acts instead of just keeping his promises and doing his job. The thing that he had done to me was nothing personal, this is just the way he lives and thinks and acts all the time. There are other forum messages that you may easily find around which supports my ideas about him. I wish I had searched for his credentiality beforehand which is my mistake.
Anyway as more as I search about him, I've heard rumours that people is getting together to hunt this nuisance down and a high bounty is being collected to be put on him also, but I cant verify that, just rumours.
So please evemail me in the game or better write here if you have also been offended and scammed by this metagamer or interested in him or have anything to add to the information pool about him. We are taking legitimate action against him.
/// thanks for your time /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
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Deckerx
Beasts of Burden YouWhat
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Posted - 2007.09.23 10:14:00 -
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Edited by: Deckerx on 23/09/2007 10:18:20 First off his main is weaVern, which is a 20 or so day old noob i asked if this was his first account he swore it was . He bought my character for 8m sp industrial character for 3.5b isk which is way over priced, and gave me the first hint this guy was isk buyer. But becuase of the character transfer methods and such i warned him buying isk was against the rules and ruined the game for others, not to mention it can get you banned! i left the conversation at that and proceeded on my eve career.
About 1 week or so later (today) he convos me and asked me if i could help him buy slaves implants a full set 1-6 (FFS) anyways i told him this was crazy, he then told me that he would supply the isk for them but he was unsure of the cost, and that he didnt know how to use the market. (something tells me that a 20 day old noob with a 8m sp character that cant even fly a bs doesnt need slave implants, Can we say ISK BUYER. Anyways i go ahead and tell him to send me the isk 3.6b total. Because honestly i thought he couldnt or wouldnt have it. he sent me 2.1b he said HIS FRIENDS where gonna send him the rest in about 1 hour. THIRD TIME i feel this sounds like a isk buyer. so from there i decied that im gonna get him the slave implants and make a little off the transaction few 100m..... but then he says he wants me to buy him a NYX that he saw on forums i bid on one, long ago. At this point there is no challenge this kid is buying isk and we all know it. So what do i do i tell him buying isk is unfair to the rest of the community and that im gonna take his isk and donate it to my corp mates and such. He got angry and very upset.
I feel no remorse for people that insist on ruining this game. I rat and mine for hours to get a few 100m isk and do massive market trades that take lots of time and lots of risk. I feel the 3.6b has thought this fool a leason and is just another win for the people who consider this game, more than just a game.
BTW: other will comply i never ever scammed or attempted to scam anyone who is a honest or dishonest player.... for some reason i attract these damn noobs, and tards and when you come to me i have no choice but to teach ya a lesson that will hopefully show you how to be a better eve player. I have never actively searched for noob character or anyone else for that matter to prey on.
JUST REMEMBER YOU CAME TO ME, WEAVERN OR ZEROLAWS, NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND. Scammers are those who are looking to screw people over for their own benifit. i have done nothing of the sort, i donate alot of my isk to my corp and other noobs who work hard for what they get.
Deckerx
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