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Nadun'Hagar N00bs With Guns	Posted - 2007.09.25 19:42:00 - [1] Just wondering since Rev III will pretty much double the size of the eve folder on my HD, if you will be releasing it in increments over a few days? Or do we get to download 2gb in one patch! what fun!
Arvald Caldari House of Tempers	Posted - 2007.09.25 19:45:00 - [2] Originally by: Nadun'Hagar Just wondering since Rev III will pretty much double the size of the eve folder on my HD, if you will be releasing it in increments over a few days? Or do we get to download 2gb in one patch! what fun! probly not going to be too horribly big ----------------------------------------------- ya cant stop the rokh and no i have not nor will i ever contribute anything constructive to your thread
Mrmuttley Guns 'N' Hoses	Posted - 2007.09.25 19:48:00 - [3] Given that the full game client is 638 MB i doubt we are going to see a huge patch. CCP seem to have the knack of keeping file sizes down to a bear minimum. .
Nadun'Hagar N00bs With Guns	Posted - 2007.09.25 19:49:00 - [4] thats what I was thinking. But I seem to recall a video interview with the big O on MMORPG.com and he said something to the effect of it doubling in size or somthing like 2gb (dont recall) I mean, we are getting all new models in the game, its pretty much a new client.
Opinionated Git	Posted - 2007.09.25 19:51:00 - [5] Edited by: Opinionated Git on 25/09/2007 19:50:55 Meh, my DAoC folder is 8GB 6xx mb (or double that for that matter) for a MMO is peanuts
Nadun'Hagar N00bs With Guns	Posted - 2007.09.25 19:52:00 - [6] Originally by: Opinionated Git Edited by: Opinionated Git on 25/09/2007 19:50:55 Meh, my DAoC folder is 8GB 6xx mb (or double that for that matter) for a MMO is peanuts No stranger to large games cough vanguard cough. Just the download is what Im harpping on.
Cornucopian Gallente Orias Fringe Enterprises United Freemen Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.25 20:31:00 - [7] Originally by: Nadun'Hagar Just wondering since Rev III will pretty much double the size of the eve folder on my HD, if you will be releasing it in increments over a few days? Or do we get to download 2gb in one patch! what fun! I dont care if its 64 gigs. Im getting it. ----------------------------------------------- "post with your main. delete your alt, you sad little exploiting metagamer." Originally by: Royaldo complete win by Cornucopian!
Cornucopian Gallente Orias Fringe Enterprises United Freemen Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.25 20:32:00 - [8] Originally by: Mrmuttley Given that the full game client is 638 MB i doubt we are going to see a huge patch. CCP seem to have the knack of keeping file sizes down to a bear minimum. I wouldnt be so sure, textures take up a lot of room, and rev3 essentially has new textures for everything that moves in eve ----------------------------------------------- "post with your main. delete your alt, you sad little exploiting metagamer." Originally by: Royaldo complete win by Cornucopian!
Bluefix Gnu Terror Corps	Posted - 2007.09.25 20:41:00 - [9] Didn't they say 2 gb? I'm not sure, but it's a significant increase for sure.
Admiral Pelleon Caldari White Shadow Imperium Burning Horizons	Posted - 2007.09.25 20:44:00 - [10] lol my steam folder is 35 gigs not worried about eve. :p ________ "It's a good day to die!"
ForceM Gallente POS Builder Inc.	Posted - 2007.09.25 20:49:00 - [11] Originally by: Cornucopian Originally by: Nadun'Hagar Just wondering since Rev III will pretty much double the size of the eve folder on my HD, if you will be releasing it in increments over a few days? Or do we get to download 2gb in one patch! what fun! I dont care if its 64 gigs. Im getting it. /signed ... :) ----- Quote: Dun kill me eris coming to fanfest by any chance? eris GULP
Peturabo	Posted - 2007.09.25 20:52:00 - [12] The Rev III patch will be around 2GB and it will be an all in one patch (as stated by ccp in an interview, cant remember which so cant link it).
Jakkul STK Scientific M. PIRE	Posted - 2007.09.25 20:57:00 - [13] I just hope they release it as a torrent then... poor download servers not going to like 100k people downloading a 2Gb file
Nadun'Hagar N00bs With Guns	Posted - 2007.09.25 20:59:00 - [14] Originally by: Jakkul I just hope they release it as a torrent then... poor download servers not going to like 100k people downloading a 2Gb file indeed
Mikelio Raijan Sulithus	Posted - 2007.09.25 21:48:00 - [15] I seem to remember the big patches having a torrent link put up several days in advance, if the patch is indeed that large some sort of preload/open advanced download awhile before release would be smart.
Kermis Caldari The Ankou The Reckoning.	Posted - 2007.09.25 21:49:00 - [16] 2 gigs should take no more than an hour to download... Not that bad...
Ze4K DK Gallente Viper Squad Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.09.25 22:18:00 - [17] Originally by: Kermis 2 gigs should take no more than an hour to download... Not that bad... Depending on your internetz and the server you're downloading from... But if you think your e-peen is bigger than others because you can download 2 gigs in an hour feel free to post cool comments like this all day...
Arana Tellen Gallente The Blackguard Wolves Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2007.09.25 22:23:00 - [18] Originally by: Nadun'Hagar Just wondering since Rev III will pretty much double the size of the eve folder on my HD, if you will be releasing it in increments over a few days? Or do we get to download 2gb in one patch! what fun! Ummm don't use 56k? Assuming they limit it at 1 meg/sec thats 2000 seconds, or 34 minutes. That's half downtime. --------------------------------- Core 2 Duo E4300 1.8ghz @ 3ghz, 2GB Gskill DDR2 5400 @ 800mhh 4-4-4-12, Abit fatality mATX F-I90HD @ 334mhz, 8800GTS 320mb 2x250GB 7200.10s Raid 0, Vista 64 Home.
Devian 666 Sectoid Technologies	Posted - 2007.09.25 23:51:00 - [19] Damn I'm on a daily cap of 350meg before it turns down to 56k speed. This will end up taking a few days for me to download. If it's gonna be 2 gig there needs to be an independent reliable download available 24 hrs for this size. I agree I don't have the features to be a holoreel star. Most people have missed the point that this is Mobsters Online and that carebears are at the bottom of the foodchain.
Amantus Gallente Murientor Tribe	Posted - 2007.09.25 23:57:00 - [20] Ah great. I'm on a crappy wireless connection and the maximum download speed for me will be about 250kb/s. Add in the likelihood of the my connection just dropping randomly and it's a recipe for a bag o' laffs. It'll be worth it though, for sure. ------------
Miriyana Gallente Legions of Derek	Posted - 2007.09.26 00:13:00 - [21] Originally by: Arana Tellen Originally by: Nadun'Hagar Just wondering since Rev III will pretty much double the size of the eve folder on my HD, if you will be releasing it in increments over a few days? Or do we get to download 2gb in one patch! what fun! Ummm don't use 56k? Assuming they limit it at 1 meg/sec thats 2000 seconds, or 34 minutes. That's half downtime. NOOO 1mbps internet speed is bits. so it will be 8 times that long. 1 "meg" connection, is 125 kilobytes per second download speed. - - - - - - Change just leads to more problems Originally by: CCP Wrangler Oh please no, I've had enough with real world taxes, and dealing with the tax agency. No more taxes!!
Fswd	Posted - 2007.09.26 00:19:00 - [22] Let em come...flashgot ftw --- Free exotic dancers for mods that mod my sig Snip Please do not discuss moderation in your signature. -Yipsilanti ([email protected]) <-- freebie for you
Zephite Warrior Nation United SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.26 00:27:00 - [23] Considering they said they'll still support the current and new client after rev 3. I assume they'll release a general update for the current client then leave it as an option to download the new client.
5n4keyes Sacred Templars DeStInY.	Posted - 2007.09.26 00:52:00 - [24] tbh i think if its going to be 2 gig, CCP should offer a DVD version, which they can charge a little for. Ide happily pay for it, to save me having to download it each time ide format! Then all we got to do is patch up!
dagdda	Posted - 2007.09.26 01:26:00 - [25] so I am asuming that I can down load the patch once to a temp folder then patch my 2 PCs?? question is on one PC I have 2 accounts (3 total) would that be 4 GIGs space needed on that one PC?
Sikozu Prioris Suns Of Korhal YouWhat	Posted - 2007.09.26 01:47:00 - [26] Originally by: dagdda so I am asuming that I can down load the patch once to a temp folder then patch my 2 PCs?? question is on one PC I have 2 accounts (3 total) would that be 4 GIGs space needed on that one PC? You can run as many instances of the game client from one instalation of eve, you dont need seperate installs for each instance of eve u run. "A enemy fleet emerges from the shadows" - What shadows!?! We're in ****ing space for gods sake
BIind Man	Posted - 2007.09.26 01:48:00 - [27] Originally by: dagdda so I am asuming that I can down load the patch once to a temp folder then patch my 2 PCs?? question is on one PC I have 2 accounts (3 total) would that be 4 GIGs space needed on that one PC? yeah if you run your accounts from separate eve installations.. or just run both accounts off one client? or dont download the new gfx :P
syphurous Gallente	Posted - 2007.09.26 01:54:00 - [28] Originally by: 5n4keyes tbh i think if its going to be 2 gig, CCP should offer a DVD version, which they can charge a little for. Ide happily pay for it, to save me having to download it each time ide format! Then all we got to do is patch up! You dont have a DVD burner yourself ? ___ Too Many Anchored Cans
Daelorn State War Academy	Posted - 2007.09.26 02:04:00 - [29] Edited by: Daelorn on 26/09/2007 02:04:55 Originally by: syphurous Originally by: 5n4keyes tbh i think if its going to be 2 gig, CCP should offer a DVD version, which they can charge a little for. Ide happily pay for it, to save me having to download it each time ide format! Then all we got to do is patch up! You dont have a DVD burner yourself ? Uh... Even if he did, how would that help him download the patch, when he wants CCP to send him a CD with the patch on it?
Daelorn State War Academy	Posted - 2007.09.26 02:09:00 - [30] Edited by: Daelorn on 26/09/2007 02:13:35 Originally by: Amantus Ah great. I'm on a crappy wireless connection and the maximum download speed for me will be about 250kb/s. Add in the likelihood of the my connection just dropping randomly and it's a recipe for a bag o' laffs. It'll be worth it though, for sure. Hey most I ever seen my connection download is 80kb/s so don't complain
343conspiracy43345	Posted - 2007.09.26 04:06:00 - [31] My e-peen claims a download speed of 8mb/s and an upload speed of 2mb/s.
Dan Grobag Caldari Oyster Colors	Posted - 2007.09.26 07:01:00 - [32] Edited by: Dan Grobag on 26/09/2007 07:03:18 I can do 320kb/sec at most, I'm not complaining there is far worse.
SeismicForce Clear Horizon Industries	Posted - 2007.09.26 07:34:00 - [33] The old textures will get deleted though, so the game folder shouldn't get that much bigger. Originally by: Allisie In a recent interview, a dev mentioned that ships and skills cause lag and will be removed in EVE 2.
Grez Minmatar Sybrite Inc.	Posted - 2007.09.26 08:52:00 - [34] You shouldn't be playing MMO's if you're not prepared for the patch downloads, to be quite frank. The 'classic' client, will probably have a small update (under 100mb?). The new DX9 client will probably be upwards of 1.5GB, purely because of the textures, and no amount of wizardry is going to get that below 500mb. ---
Angry Lo	Posted - 2007.09.26 10:40:00 - [35] hmm, 2c per MB -> $40. Oops. Well I would _definitly_ prefer DVD version.
Lord Matrix Department of War	Posted - 2007.09.26 10:52:00 - [36] CCP will introduce a new patching system with Revelations III to support more frequent patching. It will probably support BitTorrent protocol and have a resume function. Also, there will be no "classic" client, only the new DX9 one. ------------------------------------------------------------------ What good have you done for the EVE community today?
Merfio	Posted - 2007.09.26 10:55:00 - [37] WTF!? Can someone confim this? No classic client?
Kagura Nikon Minmatar MASS HOMICIDE Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.09.26 10:59:00 - [38] Originally by: Arana Tellen Originally by: Nadun'Hagar Just wondering since Rev III will pretty much double the size of the eve folder on my HD, if you will be releasing it in increments over a few days? Or do we get to download 2gb in one patch! what fun! Ummm don't use 56k? Assuming they limit it at 1 meg/sec thats 2000 seconds, or 34 minutes. That's half downtime. 1 MB s would be a 8 MB connection workign at 100%. Very few peopel outside US and europe can have such connections. And even on those places they are not exaclty ultra cheap. Most people will have around 1 Mbit connection or less. I for example pay 11% of my paycheck to get a 600 Kbit connection. If brute force doesn't solve your problem... you are not using enough
Dred'Pirate Jesus Amarr Ministry of War	Posted - 2007.09.26 11:04:00 - [39] Edited by: Dred''Pirate Jesus on 26/09/2007 11:05:30 I seem to remember from somewhere on the site that CCP was going to be releasing a budget DVD for about $2.99ish to major retailers in a slipcase that will have RevIII and the new client on it.. Dunno if thats still in the works though.. Originally by: David Hackworth ò If you find yourself in a fair fight, you didn't plan your mission properly.
Panthothen principle of motion Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.09.26 11:31:00 - [40] My DSL 2+ morphed into 24mbps today... so i can now download stuff faster than my HD kan keep up with (2.4 Megabytes per second) Torrent keeps throttling down all the time cos HD *****s under pressure from the randow writing :P
343conspiracy43345	Posted - 2007.09.26 13:12:00 - [41] Originally by: Kagura Nikon Originally by: Arana Tellen Originally by: Nadun'Hagar Just wondering since Rev III will pretty much double the size of the eve folder on my HD, if you will be releasing it in increments over a few days? Or do we get to download 2gb in one patch! what fun! Ummm don't use 56k? Assuming they limit it at 1 meg/sec thats 2000 seconds, or 34 minutes. That's half downtime. 1 MB s would be a 8 MB connection workign at 100%. Very few peopel outside US and europe can have such connections. And even on those places they are not exaclty ultra cheap. Most people will have around 1 Mbit connection or less. I for example pay 11% of my paycheck to get a 600 Kbit connection. And then people scoff at the idea that lag might be from their end...
Nadun'Hagar N00bs With Guns	Posted - 2007.09.26 17:01:00 - [42] Originally by: Lord Matrix CCP will introduce a new patching system with Revelations III to support more frequent patching. It will probably support BitTorrent protocol and have a resume function. Also, there will be no "classic" client, only the new DX9 one. Really? I was pretty sure they said we would have the option to pick either one. Or maybe that was just DX9 Vs DX10 build. But yeah, I would like to see BitToorent used as another means of getting the patch, because as far as I know and have read its gonna be big. Or at least let us down load it in increments over a few days.
Reiisha Eve University Ivy League	Posted - 2007.09.26 17:11:00 - [43] Originally by: Amantus Ah great. I'm on a crappy wireless connection and the maximum download speed for me will be about 250kb/s. Add in the likelihood of the my connection just dropping randomly and it's a recipe for a bag o' laffs. It'll be worth it though, for sure. The patch will most likely get a torrent release aswell, as has been mentioned, which means that you can 'resume' the download if your connection drops. EVE History Wiki
Rakeris Brethren Empire	Posted - 2007.09.26 17:12:00 - [44] Originally by: 343conspiracy43345 Originally by: Kagura Nikon Originally by: Arana Tellen Originally by: Nadun'Hagar Just wondering since Rev III will pretty much double the size of the eve folder on my HD, if you will be releasing it in increments over a few days? Or do we get to download 2gb in one patch! what fun! Ummm don't use 56k? Assuming they limit it at 1 meg/sec thats 2000 seconds, or 34 minutes. That's half downtime. 1 MB s would be a 8 MB connection workign at 100%. Very few peopel outside US and europe can have such connections. And even on those places they are not exaclty ultra cheap. Most people will have around 1 Mbit connection or less. I for example pay 11% of my paycheck to get a 600 Kbit connection. And then people scoff at the idea that lag might be from their end... Implying that 600Kbit is slow? Hardly, 56k dial up is slow. I played EVE for over a year on 56k without any problems. (except patches) I finally was able to get wireless EVDO service, which is around 1.5Mb. It's like a dream come true after being on dial up for 10 years...damn US and their competition is bad laws. But I hope they set it up a few days in advance so we can get it downloaded before hand, would be very nice. ---------- I gave up on sigs. As all the beatings from the abusive mods are starting to hurt and leave nasty bruises.
Kagura Nikon Minmatar MASS HOMICIDE Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.09.26 17:15:00 - [45] Originally by: 343conspiracy43345 Originally by: Kagura Nikon Originally by: Arana Tellen Originally by: Nadun'Hagar Just wondering since Rev III will pretty much double the size of the eve folder on my HD, if you will be releasing it in increments over a few days? Or do we get to download 2gb in one patch! what fun! Ummm don't use 56k? Assuming they limit it at 1 meg/sec thats 2000 seconds, or 34 minutes. That's half downtime. 1 MB s would be a 8 MB connection workign at 100%. Very few peopel outside US and europe can have such connections. And even on those places they are not exaclty ultra cheap. Most people will have around 1 Mbit connection or less. I for example pay 11% of my paycheck to get a 600 Kbit connection. And then people scoff at the idea that lag might be from their end... You really proofs to have very bad understanding of how things really are. I worked in an MMO development in past, and the bandwidth that ANY company reserve for each costumer online is FAR FAR lower than that, usually around 80-100 kb/s. Also While playing eve i have ZERO LAG influence if i am doign nothing else or downloading a lot of stuff and using 90% of my Bandwidth with the downloads. So no go study a little bit of how things are done before speaking so much crap. If brute force doesn't solve your problem... you are not using enough

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