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Nebuchadnezzar I
Art of War Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.10.02 16:42:00 -
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Originally by: Orree A number of trolling posts from other members? Please point them out. Apart from my responses in here, there are only a few other MM posts...maybe eight or so in a twelve page thread? All of them either neutral or congratulatory. Two of them, in direct response to a CoW post said nothing more than "[:lol: " and "/signed." I went through all 12 pages. If I missed something, please point them out and I will stand corrected.
This was at the beginning (probably a bit after or around v7 attack) of the conflict, I honestly cannot be bothered to dig through them. You'll have to take my word or not for it, but i assure you those were my exact thoughts back then. I doubt it was any shiva leaders though, granted.
Anyhow, i will have to respectfully disagree with you. I dont think that CoW has been worse than most, and i can assure you that most of those who do it, at least in my corp, will get theirs. Imo this conflict has mostly had a decent tone about it, at least compared to so many others i've been a part of, always someone who easily get agitated then take it to the forums sadly.
Now im letting this die on my part :)
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Scav Silver
Amarr Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.03 07:03:00 -
[362]
Edited by: Scav Silver on 03/10/2007 07:03:50 I'm ****ed.. I didn't see the fall of BKG..
Damn RL..
ps:: how is "p i s s e d" a banned word??
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"Scav est procul Porta!!" -=Pimary=- "Tonight you dine in....BKG?" -=Ashemi Darkhold=- |
Pyotr Petitioner
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2007.10.03 08:59:00 -
[363]
Edited by: Pyotr Petitioner on 03/10/2007 08:59:24 damn wrong char
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Fleg Dorchit
Boozecakepie Ltd.
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Posted - 2007.10.03 09:00:00 -
[364]
Edited by: Fleg Dorchit on 03/10/2007 09:00:35 marakor, sopisticatedlimabean or what ever, I know who you are. I used to be in fatal, and quite frankly you were one of the worst players and people I had the mispleasure to meet.
I missed nearly every body in fatal when I left, but not you, you were the most shortsighted person, your FCing was laughable when I went on your ops, you were outspoken and a downright tit.
Beware hiring this pilot corps, he's an idiot.
Howler, Spang etc...
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sophisticatedlimabean
Gallente The JORG Corporation
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Posted - 2007.10.03 09:48:00 -
[365]
Edited by: sophisticatedlimabean on 03/10/2007 09:52:58
Originally by: Fleg Dorchit Edited by: Fleg Dorchit on 03/10/2007 09:00:35 marakor, sopisticatedlimabean or what ever, I know who you are. I used to be in fatal, and quite frankly you were one of the worst players and people I had the mispleasure to meet.
I missed nearly every body in fatal when I left, but not you, you were the most shortsighted person, your FCing was laughable when I went on your ops, you were outspoken and a downright tit.
Beware hiring this pilot corps, he's an idiot.
Howler, Spang etc...
You left fatal in april not long after we moved out of the drone area so unless your refering to the cruiser squads i ran during the day and hardly lost a ship id say your full off crap. But hey its always nice to hear from a blast from the past even if it is a clown trying to defend other tossers by making up crap about ppl. And of course there is the fact of what is happening now that proves more than anything i can post how bad and pitiful FATAL has become. Ive had more invites and convos from ppl who know me and others who remember me asking me advise since the implosion and subsequent fall of fatal than i can keep up with. Acusation from losers like you and others of me turning up to fleet ops in a cov ops without a mic and other absurdiies have only served to push apart those who know the truth and those living in a spiteful dream world.
Look at what is going on in that joke of an alliance at the moment and anybody with eyes can see that apart from a few individuals it has self-destructed because of greedy ppl in FATAL REV and a alliance leader who stepped down but tried to micro manage the guy who took over and undermined his every move with his inner circle of alliance isk makers and puppets.
FATAL died after it left the drone area it just took a long time to stop kicking and lie down.
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Abn Matar
Minmatar Genco Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.10.03 09:53:00 -
[366]
Originally by: Fleg Dorchit I missed nearly every body in fatal
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Asuo
The Wild Hunt FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.03 10:03:00 -
[367]
Posting, cos the hamster with the gun told me to........ -----------------------------------------------
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S3dINSTBE
The JORG Corporation
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Posted - 2007.10.03 10:07:00 -
[368]
Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean Edited by: sophisticatedlimabean on 03/10/2007 09:52:58
Originally by: Fleg Dorchit Edited by: Fleg Dorchit on 03/10/2007 09:00:35 marakor, sopisticatedlimabean or what ever, I know who you are. I used to be in fatal, and quite frankly you were one of the worst players and people I had the mispleasure to meet.
I missed nearly every body in fatal when I left, but not you, you were the most shortsighted person, your FCing was laughable when I went on your ops, you were outspoken and a downright tit.
Beware hiring this pilot corps, he's an idiot.
Howler, Spang etc...
You left fatal in april not long after we moved out of the drone area so unless your refering to the cruiser squads i ran during the day and hardly lost a ship id say your full off crap. But hey its always nice to hear from a blast from the past even if it is a clown trying to defend other tossers by making up crap about ppl. And of course there is the fact of what is happening now that proves more than anything i can post how bad and pitiful FATAL has become. Ive had more invites and convos from ppl who know me and others who remember me asking me advise since the implosion and subsequent fall of fatal than i can keep up with. Acusation from losers like you and others of me turning up to fleet ops in a cov ops without a mic and other absurdiies have only served to push apart those who know the truth and those living in a spiteful dream world.
Look at what is going on in that joke of an alliance at the moment and anybody with eyes can see that apart from a few individuals it has self-destructed because of greedy ppl in FATAL REV and a alliance leader who stepped down but tried to micro manage the guy who took over and undermined his every move with his inner circle of alliance isk makers and puppets.
FATAL died after it left the drone area it just took a long time to stop kicking and lie down.
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Fleg Dorchit
Boozecakepie Ltd.
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Posted - 2007.10.03 10:20:00 -
[369]
Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean Edited by: sophisticatedlimabean on 03/10/2007 09:52:58
Originally by: Fleg Dorchit Edited by: Fleg Dorchit on 03/10/2007 09:00:35 marakor, sopisticatedlimabean or what ever, I know who you are. I used to be in fatal, and quite frankly you were one of the worst players and people I had the mispleasure to meet.
I missed nearly every body in fatal when I left, but not you, you were the most shortsighted person, your FCing was laughable when I went on your ops, you were outspoken and a downright tit.
Beware hiring this pilot corps, he's an idiot.
Howler, Spang etc...
You left fatal in april not long after we moved out of the drone area so unless your refering to the cruiser squads i ran during the day and hardly lost a ship id say your full off crap. But hey its always nice to hear from a blast from the past even if it is a clown trying to defend other tossers by making up crap about ppl. And of course there is the fact of what is happening now that proves more than anything i can post how bad and pitiful FATAL has become. Ive had more invites and convos from ppl who know me and others who remember me asking me advise since the implosion and subsequent fall of fatal than i can keep up with. Acusation from losers like you and others of me turning up to fleet ops in a cov ops without a mic and other absurdiies have only served to push apart those who know the truth and those living in a spiteful dream world.
Look at what is going on in that joke of an alliance at the moment and anybody with eyes can see that apart from a few individuals it has self-destructed because of greedy ppl in FATAL REV and a alliance leader who stepped down but tried to micro manage the guy who took over and undermined his every move with his inner circle of alliance isk makers and puppets.
FATAL died after it left the drone area it just took a long time to stop kicking and lie down.
Neither did I say that you turned up in cov ops to fleet ops, and without a mic. Or any other absurdities.
I really wish you had turned up without a mic, your outspoken opinions and crap tactics when we were in the drone regions, really made me mute you 90% of the time, the only time you weren't muted was when I had to listen to you. IE when you were in command.
Don't get me wrong I respected you for your dedication to the outpost building in the drone regions, I put in as much effort as I could during that time, I almost bankrupted myself during that time, all for the corp. I worked as hard as anyone did.
I don't remember any greedy people from my time in Fatal, that must have happend over the last 6 months. The old school crew still aren't greedy people I'd wager, and are as honest as they always were.
I just didn't like you.
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sophisticatedlimabean
Gallente The JORG Corporation
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Posted - 2007.10.03 10:36:00 -
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Now all you need do is point out those poor tactics and you may get ppl to belive you. Oh and btw i think you got me mixed up with sombody else as apart from the amasingly successful cruiser gangs and the night we and MC killed the MS it was gunny/dj and others who led the support fleet in the drone area.
Try again or get your facts right bud.
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Fleg Dorchit
Boozecakepie Ltd.
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Posted - 2007.10.03 10:49:00 -
[371]
Oh believe me, I could never mix you up with anybody.
I seem to remember you organising repsonse ops when we were being invaded before the outpost went up. I remember one time being in your gang and ending up chasing 1 or 2 ships which led to us getting pincered the good old fashioned way.
Besides its really fun baiting you.
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sophisticatedlimabean
Gallente The JORG Corporation
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Posted - 2007.10.03 10:58:00 -
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Edited by: sophisticatedlimabean on 03/10/2007 11:05:05
Originally by: Fleg Dorchit Oh believe me, I could never mix you up with anybody.
I seem to remember you organising repsonse ops when we were being invaded before the outpost went up. I remember one time being in your gang and ending up chasing 1 or 2 ships which led to us getting pincered the good old fashioned way.
Besides its really fun baiting you.
We got invaded before the outpost went up?. We barly lost a ship before the outpost went up you muppet.
Thanks im getting more and more ppl convo/chat to me on TS and having a laugh as we speak your the best.
Do yourself a big favor stop posting bullsh*t bud it just males you look desperate and foolish.
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Fleg Dorchit
Boozecakepie Ltd.
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Posted - 2007.10.03 11:19:00 -
[373]
Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean Edited by: sophisticatedlimabean on 03/10/2007 11:05:05
Originally by: Fleg Dorchit Oh believe me, I could never mix you up with anybody.
I seem to remember you organising repsonse ops when we were being invaded before the outpost went up. I remember one time being in your gang and ending up chasing 1 or 2 ships which led to us getting pincered the good old fashioned way.
Besides its really fun baiting you.
We got invaded before the outpost went up?. We barly lost a ship before the outpost went up you muppet.
Thanks im getting more and more ppl convo/chat to me on TS and having a laugh as we speak your the best.
Do yourself a big favor stop posting bullsh*t bud it just males you look desperate and foolish.
Ow I am so hurt. why would I stop posting? I enjoy seeing you get more bitter and angry. :)
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sophisticatedlimabean
Gallente The JORG Corporation
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Posted - 2007.10.03 11:34:00 -
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Originally by: Fleg Dorchit
Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean Edited by: sophisticatedlimabean on 03/10/2007 11:05:05
Originally by: Fleg Dorchit Oh believe me, I could never mix you up with anybody.
I seem to remember you organising repsonse ops when we were being invaded before the outpost went up. I remember one time being in your gang and ending up chasing 1 or 2 ships which led to us getting pincered the good old fashioned way.
Besides its really fun baiting you.
We got invaded before the outpost went up?. We barly lost a ship before the outpost went up you muppet.
Thanks im getting more and more ppl convo/chat to me on TS and having a laugh as we speak your the best.
Do yourself a big favor stop posting bullsh*t bud it just males you look desperate and foolish.
Ow I am so hurt. why would I stop posting? I enjoy seeing you get more bitter and angry. :)
Buddy theres a party on the vent server im on and the only bitter on it is what is being drank along with other beers and plenty of loling at you and the fail-incarnate that is fatal.
we are looking for suitable names how about;
Failed At The Alliance Level
Thats the best we have come up with so far but seeing as your so clever with the "I was trying to bait you and i did'nt want to prove your a bad FC and lost those imaginary battles anyway".
Can you do better?.
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Fleg Dorchit
Boozecakepie Ltd.
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Posted - 2007.10.03 11:42:00 -
[375]
Edited by: Fleg Dorchit on 03/10/2007 11:43:23 If you aren't so bitter why do you care so much?
I mean you must be sitting there F5-ing the page constantly given the speed of your replies.
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sophisticatedlimabean
Gallente The JORG Corporation
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Posted - 2007.10.03 11:50:00 -
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Honestly and without the entertaining baiting ive been doing?.
I not bitter now but i was after i saw how a great compact and dedicated pvp force that we were in the drone area had turned to s*it. I spent a lot of time and effort in g95 in bob space and then in branch trying to get ppl ready and there heads into what a 0.0 pos war was like with posts about building cruiser fleets and being on the offensive so our isk making areas were clear. All i got for my trouble was slapped down or ignored, so i left and yes i was very *****d off at a lot of fatal apart from the few hardcore old school boys who agreed with me (they later left as well).
So im gonna enjoy this to the utmost with lots of smack plenty of i told ya so's and a lot of LOLing.
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boeses frettchen
4S Corporation Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.10.03 11:55:00 -
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Originally by: Fleg Dorchit Edited by: Fleg Dorchit on 03/10/2007 11:43:23 If you aren't so bitter why do you care so much?
I mean you must be sitting there F5-ing the page constantly given the speed of your replies.
Please this discussion has nothing to do with BKG, get in private convo
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Blazde
4S Corporation Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.10.03 12:18:00 -
[378]
Just wanted to echo KracKaTinny comments, from our side. It has been a very fun campaign. And that has nothing to do with the outcome, corp members will confirm I was raving about how much fun it was weeks ago. I was a bit gutted tbh to logon sunday and find everyone had finally surrendered.
There's a lot wrong with pos warfare and always has been but I do think the recent sov mechanic changes have spiced things up a lot. There's much more to it now that just jumping a capital fleet into your enemy's station and grinding it out for a week. Firstly we were forced to rush our (abortive) attack on V7 due to impending sov-3. Secondly the cyno-jammers and pos gunners give a huge defensive advantage forcing you to attack with a massive numerical advantage that's more in line with real-life parallels. It's unfortunate the nodes can't handle the load but hopefully that will improve. I cursed the jammer everytime it got in our way but together with jump bridges it's an excellent way of giving a defensive advantage (and forcing interesting cap vs non-cap battles) and I will learn to love it next time Tribute is invaded. In hindsight, after we worked through the difficulties, I don't think it needs weakening at all.
Getting the numerical advantage forced us to think outside the box and focus on the psychological aspect a bit more, attacking soft targets as well as disrupting supply lines, to break morale and reduce hostile numbers (ours did not increase, the peak for both sides was the evenly numbered 750-man battle in BKG some weeks ago when the node crashed). Imo we'd barely begun to explore the possibilities but I am confident future wars will see a lot more of it. And we had perhaps (?) the first proper seige of a non-station system in HB7. That fact alone is a thumbs-up for the sov changes.
Props to our adversaries, we had to switch up our game a few times to beat you and that kind of challenge is a lot of fun. As a member of RAWR I like to see our enemies crash and burn horribly but as a player it's especially sad to now see FATAL imploding. You guys gave us some good fights going back to our Fountain campaign and showed a real hardcore determination in defending Branch. I'll never forget the only time I ventured solo into the FATAL constellation at 4am, got camped, logged off, cooked a curry, ate it, logged back on and made a run for the gate only to find twice as many waiting patiently for me on the other side. Ouch _
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Sebo Darrens
FATAL REVELATIONS FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.03 13:01:00 -
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Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean
Look at what is going on in that joke of an alliance at the moment and anybody with eyes can see that apart from a few individuals it has self-destructed because of greedy ppl in FATAL REV and a alliance leader who stepped down but tried to micro manage the guy who took over and undermined his every move with his inner circle of alliance isk makers and puppets.
Bean, I know you like to puff yourself up on the public forums and take a **** but this time you've gone too far. You really have absolutely no idea what you're talking about and you're relaying 3rd hand information you've gotten from one perspective as usual without any thought or rationale involved.
We get it, you're bitter about something. But you don't know what you're talking about, so walk away and shut up.
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sophisticatedlimabean
Gallente The JORG Corporation
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Posted - 2007.10.03 13:11:00 -
[380]
Originally by: Sebo Darrens
Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean
Look at what is going on in that joke of an alliance at the moment and anybody with eyes can see that apart from a few individuals it has self-destructed because of greedy ppl in FATAL REV and a alliance leader who stepped down but tried to micro manage the guy who took over and undermined his every move with his inner circle of alliance isk makers and puppets.
Bean, I know you like to puff yourself up on the public forums and take a **** but this time you've gone too far. You really have absolutely no idea what you're talking about and you're relaying 3rd hand information you've gotten from one perspective as usual without any thought or rationale involved.
We get it, you're bitter about something. But you don't know what you're talking about, so walk away and shut up.
Actualy my info comes from the fatal alliance forums lol you realy should remove the access of ppl who have left including all my alts.
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Marlon Shakespeare
The Wild Hunt FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.03 13:41:00 -
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Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean Actualy my info comes from the fatal alliance forums lol you realy should remove the access of ppl who have left including all my alts.
Good God Man, go and create your own narcissistic whiny thread where you can be ridiculed at will away from the rest of us.
I don't think anyone cared that you had access to FATAL forums when you were in FATAL, and I doubt very much whether they care now either.
Your continued ranting is doing nothing for your personal reputation or that of your corp [which is a shame since there are great bunch of guys in TJORG].
Swallow that bitter pill and move on.
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HarrytheDog
Chosen Path FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.03 13:55:00 -
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Gentlemen, some clarification needed here; ol' GreenBean seems to be trying to convince everyone that he left Fatal because of a disagreement with the Alliance leadership over tactics; in reality he left like a sulky teenager because he got slapped-down in public over his forum posting. A quick perusal of the last few pages, noting particularly his name-calling and self-agrandisement will give you an idea of why he was asked to stop. The bitter and aggressive tone of all his posts should be a strong pointer to those who might see my assertion as biased - who the hell gets that steamed up if the only reason for leaving was a disagreement on tactics? Tbh, I know that I speak for all my Corp and lots of other Fatal members when I say we were glad to see the back of him. I had the misfortune of flying in a couple of ops with him in charge, and quite frankly he sucked large chocolate salty balls; he did teach me everything he knew about FC-ing but that only took 5 minutes. And once he'd decided to leave and sold/moved his assets, he was back in our systems shooting (at) his old mates with Tri, which shows you the character of the bloke. He's an egotistical, misanthroptic, loud-mouthed tit and should be avoided like the plague. Nothing personal beany old fruit
...and Harry doesn't mind if he don't make the scene; he's got a day-time job, he's doing all right...
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Asuo
The Wild Hunt FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.03 15:06:00 -
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Originally by: HarrytheDog Gentlemen, some clarification needed here; ol' GreenBean seems to be trying to convince everyone that he left Fatal because of a disagreement with the Alliance leadership over tactics; in reality he left like a sulky teenager because he got slapped-down in public over his forum posting. A quick perusal of the last few pages, noting particularly his name-calling and self-agrandisement will give you an idea of why he was asked to stop. The bitter and aggressive tone of all his posts should be a strong pointer to those who might see my assertion as biased - who the hell gets that steamed up if the only reason for leaving was a disagreement on tactics? Tbh, I know that I speak for all my Corp and lots of other Fatal members when I say we were glad to see the back of him. I had the misfortune of flying in a couple of ops with him in charge, and quite frankly he sucked large chocolate salty balls; he did teach me everything he knew about FC-ing but that only took 5 minutes. And once he'd decided to leave and sold/moved his assets, he was back in our systems shooting (at) his old mates with Tri, which shows you the character of the bloke. He's an egotistical, misanthroptic, loud-mouthed tit and should be avoided like the plague. Nothing personal beany old fruit
I thought it was cos he was a gobby sod who kept trying to steal all the lime light from the people who did the actual work. -----------------------------------------------
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Cvuos
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.10.03 15:26:00 -
[384]
Can I get a confirm/deny on the same leadership that left LV members high&dry and ripped off their assets have done the same thing yet again?
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Fleg Dorchit
Boozecakepie Ltd.
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Posted - 2007.10.03 15:36:00 -
[385]
Originally by: Cvuos Can I get a confirm/deny on the same leadership that left LV members high&dry and ripped off their assets have done the same thing yet again?
That would be a deny, as Fatal Revelations left LV the night LV unveiled their Titan.
lose.
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Fleg Dorchit
Boozecakepie Ltd.
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Posted - 2007.10.03 15:37:00 -
[386]
Originally by: Asuo
Originally by: HarrytheDog Gentlemen, some clarification needed here; ol' GreenBean seems to be trying to convince everyone that he left Fatal because of a disagreement with the Alliance leadership over tactics; in reality he left like a sulky teenager because he got slapped-down in public over his forum posting. A quick perusal of the last few pages, noting particularly his name-calling and self-agrandisement will give you an idea of why he was asked to stop. The bitter and aggressive tone of all his posts should be a strong pointer to those who might see my assertion as biased - who the hell gets that steamed up if the only reason for leaving was a disagreement on tactics? Tbh, I know that I speak for all my Corp and lots of other Fatal members when I say we were glad to see the back of him. I had the misfortune of flying in a couple of ops with him in charge, and quite frankly he sucked large chocolate salty balls; he did teach me everything he knew about FC-ing but that only took 5 minutes. And once he'd decided to leave and sold/moved his assets, he was back in our systems shooting (at) his old mates with Tri, which shows you the character of the bloke. He's an egotistical, misanthroptic, loud-mouthed tit and should be avoided like the plague. Nothing personal beany old fruit
I thought it was cos he was a gobby sod who kept trying to steal all the lime light from the people who did the actual work.
Couldn't agree more, I thought this over 6 months ago before I left Fatal Rev.
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Sebo Darrens
FATAL REVELATIONS FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.03 16:05:00 -
[387]
Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean
Originally by: Sebo Darrens
Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean
Look at what is going on in that joke of an alliance at the moment and anybody with eyes can see that apart from a few individuals it has self-destructed because of greedy ppl in FATAL REV and a alliance leader who stepped down but tried to micro manage the guy who took over and undermined his every move with his inner circle of alliance isk makers and puppets.
Bean, I know you like to puff yourself up on the public forums and take a **** but this time you've gone too far. You really have absolutely no idea what you're talking about and you're relaying 3rd hand information you've gotten from one perspective as usual without any thought or rationale involved.
We get it, you're bitter about something. But you don't know what you're talking about, so walk away and shut up.
Actualy my info comes from the fatal alliance forums lol you realy should remove the access of ppl who have left including all my alts.
Great, you have access. Gunship has been on very rarely in the last month, so there's no way he could try to micromanage anything.. "greedy ppl in FATAL REV" has nothing to do with the alliance self-destructing, it was a decision made. Stupid accusations about fatal rev not handing over POS as a cause of conflict, they're unfounded.
You've obviously been listening to prom whine, because thats how it all started. UKC lost 3 freighters, and Prom trying to stand up and be an alliance leader turned to alliance chat and said it was fatal rev's fault. It wasn't.
Fatal Rev. pulled out with their own assets in disgust after a peace treaty was reached, there was no theft, there was no underhandedness. I believe, if you look, there is still a POS of ours in D4R, which I'm not in charge of but I assume is a part of that peace agreement..
So.. you may have forum access, but none of what you say exists on the forum and is obviously idle speculation, so please stop.
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Sebo Darrens
FATAL REVELATIONS FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.03 16:08:00 -
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Also, as to bean's personal character..
He wasn't a bad FC as far as I remember, but he is definitely a loud-mouthed tit - but I think he would agree with that statement too so I see nothing wrong with that.
Slagging him off personally for being negative and vocal about is a little out of line.
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Jaabaa Prime
M. Corp M. PIRE
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Posted - 2007.10.03 16:10:00 -
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All things taken into account, I enjoyed my stay in the north, so congratulation to the winners.
Lots of PvP, relatively smack free and a whole lot of fun.
The only thing I didn't like was the lag, only to be expected when alliances collide, but the extremes that were experienced on both sides didn't really add to the enjoyment.
I can only hope that the upcoming Trinity II engine drastically reduces client lag and that CCP implements their plans for a true cluster solution on the server side.
Then alliance warfare should be more fun than frustration.
See you in space. --
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Orree
Gallente Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.10.03 16:12:00 -
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Very good posts by KracKaTinny and Blazde. Good reads, both of them.
It's a shame that a good portion of this thread has just been an airing of internal issues, but I think that those people who have stuck with the thread from beginning to end have been rewarded with some good accounts of the salient facts.
"How much easier it is to be critical than to be correct." ---Benjamin Disraeli |
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