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Ivor Gunn
No One Expects The Spanish Inquisition
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Posted - 2007.10.03 16:14:00 -
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Originally by: HarrytheDog in reality he left like a sulky teenager because he got slapped-down in public over his forum posting.
Yep, that's TJORG. Every alliance they've ever been in; they've left in tears, usually accompanied with smacktalk in every channel they've got access to.
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Tissa
Minmatar UK Corp
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Posted - 2007.10.03 16:16:00 -
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Originally by: Sebo Darrens Also, as to bean's personal character..
He wasn't a bad FC as far as I remember, but he is definitely a loud-mouthed tit - but I think he would agree with that statement too so I see nothing wrong with that.
Slagging him off personally for being negative and vocal about is a little out of line.
I agree with you on this one, sophie and I may have had a few words over philosophy but when it came to FCing he could hold his own.
He also believed in fatal.
My views do not represent those of my corp or alliance. (Joined UKC 19/09/06) |
sophisticatedlimabean
Gallente The JORG Corporation
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Posted - 2007.10.03 16:19:00 -
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Edited by: sophisticatedlimabean on 03/10/2007 16:21:07
Originally by: Fleg Dorchit
Originally by: Asuo
Originally by: HarrytheDog Gentlemen, some clarification needed here; ol' GreenBean seems to be trying to convince everyone that he left Fatal because of a disagreement with the Alliance leadership over tactics; in reality he left like a sulky teenager because he got slapped-down in public over his forum posting. A quick perusal of the last few pages, noting particularly his name-calling and self-agrandisement will give you an idea of why he was asked to stop. The bitter and aggressive tone of all his posts should be a strong pointer to those who might see my assertion as biased - who the hell gets that steamed up if the only reason for leaving was a disagreement on tactics? Tbh, I know that I speak for all my Corp and lots of other Fatal members when I say we were glad to see the back of him. I had the misfortune of flying in a couple of ops with him in charge, and quite frankly he sucked large chocolate salty balls; he did teach me everything he knew about FC-ing but that only took 5 minutes. And once he'd decided to leave and sold/moved his assets, he was back in our systems shooting (at) his old mates with Tri, which shows you the character of the bloke. He's an egotistical, misanthroptic, loud-mouthed tit and should be avoided like the plague. Nothing personal beany old fruit
I thought it was cos he was a gobby sod who kept trying to steal all the lime light from the people who did the actual work.
Couldn't agree more, I thought this over 6 months ago before I left Fatal Rev.
Strange how im still getting invites to corps that are all ex-fatal and agree with me considering how poor at fcing and pvp i am. Its almost as if they know me and you guys are bitter about the fall of your pathetic alliance and looking to try to hit out at me for enjoying it.
And my problem was with the leadership and the memberswho sat in stations or logged of as soon as a hostile gang came into our area.
Example;
15 hostiles inbound, 180 members in alliance chat logged in, a call to gang goes out and the same 3-4 ppl x up everybody else goes deaf and dumb stops talking in alliance chat or in the security channels or on TS.
PS; To the last couple of hate mail boys
NONE OF THE 3-4 PPL I MENTIONED WERE YOU OR IN EITHER OF YOUR CORPS.
And i like being a load moth tit.
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Tissa
Minmatar UK Corp
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Posted - 2007.10.03 16:28:00 -
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Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean
And i like being a load moth tit.
a load moth tit? Quoted before you realize what you put down in the hope that someone from the JORG makes this your title. Still think your fiction rocks fella.
My views do not represent those of my corp or alliance. (Joined UKC 19/09/06) |
Gaurav
The Wild Hunt FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.03 16:54:00 -
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To RZR, MM, et al. I hope you have this campaign written somewhere. It would make quite an interesting reading from which we could all learn a lot.
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Znaei
Caldari Thundercats RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.03 18:32:00 -
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CoW,M.Pire and Fatal!! Dont forget this make him stand up to his promise!
Not so hard! Air gets in between. |
S3dINSTBE
The JORG Corporation
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Posted - 2007.10.03 21:09:00 -
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Originally by: Znaei CoW,M.Pire and Fatal!! Dont forget this make him stand up to his promise!
They did it for the beerz _____________________________________ Desync compensation lvl 5 |
Angor
The JORG Corporation
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Posted - 2007.10.03 21:32:00 -
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Originally by: Ivor Gunn
Originally by: HarrytheDog in reality he left like a sulky teenager because he got slapped-down in public over his forum posting.
Yep, that's TJORG. Every alliance they've ever been in; they've left in tears, usually accompanied with smacktalk in every channel they've got access to.
Err who are you? I've been in 3 alliances with the JORG, Sylph (left on good terms), Myriad (left cos they surrendered without a fight, but on good terms), FATAL (left cos of multiple reasons alot evident in this thread, again on good terms). Where your getting your info I have no idea.
And as for Sophisticated, he is actually a good FC, lots of small wolfpack gangs were some of the most fun I've had in eve, lots of kills and very few losses, how does that make a bad FC? He might go overboard speaking his mind, but thats why we love him, plus we gota have someone to match Goons on the forum lmao. _______________________________ [ 2007.06.07 21:07:22 ] FrankyWave > ransom me guys I am joining XElas !!! |
Nubmart
Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.03 22:17:00 -
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Bring back Wei Xiao, I never got to pop his dominix.
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Elmicker
Black Sea Industries Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.10.03 23:33:00 -
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As always angor, so quick to forget the past, so quick to point the finger. I'll see you around sometime.
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Angor
The JORG Corporation
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Posted - 2007.10.04 00:30:00 -
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Originally by: Elmicker Edited by: Elmicker on 03/10/2007 23:42:51 NVM. Totally not worth it. Mail me ingame angor if you really want to go down that route.
errr ok? _______________________________ [ 2007.06.07 21:07:22 ] FrankyWave > ransom me guys I am joining XElas !!! |
Archilies
The Wild Hunt
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Posted - 2007.10.04 03:30:00 -
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Sophi left because no one took him seroiusly bless him. Then he whined, and had a paddy because he claimed he had done all the work when in fact he had done **** all.
This is comming from a grown man, and in fact acts like a sulking 16 yr old teenager [kevin comes to mind]. Im guessing your what, 30's - 40's?. Yet you talk as if your 10.
There Was A Time When The World Asked Ordinary Men To Do Extraordinary Things |
Dylan Rhade
Caldari UK Corp
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Posted - 2007.10.04 03:42:00 -
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When someone from FATAL Rev was leader of the alliance, u all followed as if it was gospel.
When Prom stepped upto bat after no one else would take it, u did NOT listen to him, he was the appointed leader of the alliance, and u took him about as seriously as a cat playing with a thimble.
If Omaha had been the one who had surrendered after MPire (would insert what i think here but corpies wouldnt like so i'll stay shtum)surrendered, u wouldnt have raised a word in protest.
Despite what some of you believed, FATAL Rev was NOT the whole alliance
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If my views represent the views of my corporation and alliance, then you, sir/madam, are a spoon |
Privious
Caldari Thundercats RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.04 06:03:00 -
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now now children, don't make me pull over the car ---------
When the pin is pulled Mr. Grenade is not our friend. |
HarrytheDog
Chosen Path FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.04 10:00:00 -
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Quite right Sebo, personal attacks are beyond the pale and name-calling is just juvenile, so I apologise to Mr StringBean unreservedly. I could point out that he started it but that would be childish so I wont. Anyway, Sticks and Stones etc eh Sophie? ...and Harry doesn't mind if he don't make the scene; he's got a day-time job, he's doing all right...
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sophisticatedlimabean
Gallente The JORG Corporation Methods of Mayhem Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.04 10:08:00 -
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Edited by: sophisticatedlimabean on 04/10/2007 10:11:45 Edited by: sophisticatedlimabean on 04/10/2007 10:10:01 Edited by: sophisticatedlimabean on 04/10/2007 10:09:22
Originally by: Archilies Sophi left because no one took him seroiusly bless him.
Actualy a few ppl took me seriously and they left not long after i did.
And as a matter of interest how are you guys up in branch (those that did'nt take me seriously) doing????. Oh thats right LOL you just got booted out 2 days or so after deploying a third outpost after not even losing a single of your own systems.
Originally by: Archilies Then he whined, and had a paddy because he claimed he had done all the work when in fact he had done **** all..
1)Leading the most successful gangs ever in fatal (pre-carebear, so mostly before your time)
2) trying to organise a alliance fleet (one night of that and everybody bailed and the minerals went to build a capital ship for one of the inner circle)
3) spending loads of time on the test server trying to find new ways to combat blobing (with a few others helping with this who also left fatal in disgust before your debacle of a war)
4) Xing up for every OP if so much as a single ship came into our area (never saw you or many of your corp doing the same but you were always online)
5) training in system or posting on the alliance forum for the newer players who wanted advise on fittings/fleet ops (never saw you there either)
6) And yes going on and on and on about how if we continued to turtle up instead of fighting offensivly we would eventualy fall due to the fact we would be fighting in or near our isk making areas (Considering fatals last few days id say you and the rest of the arrogant r*tards should have listened more and slagged me off and ignored me less, but hey you guys are better at moving home and making isk than you will ever be at fighting)
I do not think anybody can argue that the fall of the new north coalition was way to soon considering their numbers and position/high sov left in a lot of systems.
Your and others dislike of me and my comments on this forum and fictional acusations regarding my lack of effort are part of your problem. The total collapse of your alliance was due to a complete lack of cohesion in the joke that FATAL turned into and just confirms why people like you will never be anything other than losers and parasites in eve.
My views may represent those of my corp/alliance but you will have to ask em to be sure. |
Marlon Shakespeare
The Wild Hunt
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Posted - 2007.10.04 11:31:00 -
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Why do you keep coming back here to get a bloody nose? Didn't we ask you to go and create your own self-flaggelating thread?
Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean Actualy a few ppl took me seriously and they left not long after i did.
And it shall forever remain a mystery who they were...
Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean 1)Leading the most successful gangs ever in fatal (pre-carebear, so mostly before your time)
A grand statement, perhaps even true, though who can tell. Certainly not in the post YM- era. I wasn't with FATAL back then so I can't comment.
Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean 2) trying to organise a alliance fleet (one night of that and everybody bailed and the minerals went to build a capital ship for one of the inner circle)
To your credit you did make a lot of effort at telling everyone else what they should be doing. And on this occasion you actually did *do* something. That said, you couldn't even follow that through, as all the minerals that were contracted to you mysteriously went into the ether never to be seen again. I'm not suggesting you kept them for yourself, but organising a mining op isn't exactly hard is it...?
Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean 3) spending loads of time on the test server trying to find new ways to combat blobing
Stealth Bomber Spoiler Alert?
Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean 5) training in system or posting on the alliance forum for the newer players who wanted advise on fittings/fleet ops (never saw you there either)
Most of us were training in Tenal while you were training in Aunenen *cough*. Killboard stats don't lie.
Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean [b]6) And yes going on and on and on about how if we continued to turtle up instead of fighting offensivly we would eventualy fall due to the fact we would be fighting in or near our isk making areas
What you failed to grasp back then, and still fail to grasp even now is that everyone knew everything you kept harping on about already and in many cases agreed. The constant rhetoric just ****ed everyone off, and the irony was that you became exactly the kind of player which you set out to hate.
Corporations and Alliances need people who step up to the plate and lead from the front, irrespective of the challenge and setbacks, not people who sit in the background ranting yet doing nothing themselves.
You had the choice and you chose to step down (I'm being generous here) because it was easier than winning the trust and confidence of your corp/alliance mates to join any gangs which you led (don't recall many).
Your repugnant vitriol reached it's heights when you would openly insult those who did step up and take out gangs with comments including "I hope you've learned your lesson" and "told you so" on the occasions when they came back unsuccessful.
And now sitting in smug self-delusion you wonder why no-one respects you?
Following your departure (no link), I believe FATAL did actually step up considerably, however it was unsustainable for a variety of reasons.
Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean but hey you guys are better at moving home and making isk than you will ever be at fighting)
Aunenen? lol.
Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean The total collapse of your alliance was due to a complete lack of cohesion in the joke that FATAL turned into and just confirms why people like you will never be anything other than losers and parasites in eve.
Oh, we thought it was because you left us :-(
At least your last Alliance has seen fit to redress their recruitment policy.
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sophisticatedlimabean
Gallente The JORG Corporation Methods of Mayhem Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.04 13:24:00 -
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Edited by: sophisticatedlimabean on 04/10/2007 13:34:29 Edited by: sophisticatedlimabean on 04/10/2007 13:29:38 1) I spent 1 week in aunenen pirating and making isk out of 10-12 months with FATAL.
2) Yes the cruiser gangs were before we got a load of carebear *******s who think they know how to pvp like you in the alliance.
3)If you are acusing me of theft of those minerals that were for the alliance fleet i suggest you check your facts before saying they were contracted to me cos i led the pvp gang and never even saw them, they were given ON ORDERS FROM THE ALLIANCE LEADERS to a fatal guy to refine and never seen again.
4) Yes the syealth bombers were one of the ideas we had among lots others we tried to develop WHY ARE YOU FOCUSED ON THAT SINGLE IDEA myself and others tried out more ideas than i can remember on the test server over a period of 5-6 months?.
5) Your right i KB stats dont lie cos in fact i was in aunenen for 1 week out of 10-12 months in FATAL as i said earlier.
And by the way its a FC's job to tell people what to do thats where the COMMANDER in FLEET COMMANDER comes from you ****. I just saw how far the alliance had fallen and how few people actualy turned up for the fleet ops and decided that FATAL was not worth the effort. So instead they got stuck with a fella who thinks that losing the field and killing logged off ships with probers is a win for the home team.
The people who know me know im talking true (im getting plenty of messages from them agreeing and wanting to join us) and those with eyes and ears outside the alliance see that a 3000 member coalition just folded after barley a fight then got into a internal bickering match that broke the alliance into shreds, this says it all about the quality of leadership,FCing and managment of it and confirms what im saying and the best the guy who FC'd this disgrace can do is make personal attacks.
Fact- you and achillies and others slagging me off on this thread were leaders in FATAL and look at how FATAL is doing.
ENOUGH SAID
My views may represent those of my corp/alliance but you will have to ask em to be sure. |
sophisticatedlimabean
Gallente The JORG Corporation Methods of Mayhem Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.04 14:00:00 -
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Oh and i did'nt wanna spend ages finding spelling mistakes and cutting and pasting venom and hate so i just started a new post you should try it cos it makes you look less petty and fault finding. But at least youve moved away from spelling mistakes and grammar corrections lol.
My views may represent those of my corp/alliance but you will have to ask em to be sure. |
Ivor Gunn
No One Expects The Spanish Inquisition
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Posted - 2007.10.04 14:10:00 -
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Edited by: Ivor Gunn on 04/10/2007 14:12:09
Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean 1) I spent 1 week in aunenen pirating and making isk out of 10-12 months with FATAL.
Ok. So you make out like you were a major PvPer in FATAL alliance. You managed about 300 kills for 30 losses in your "10-12 months". Utterly pathetic. That's not even a kill a day. (Though, looking closer. Your fatal stats extend for 8 months. a full 4 months short of your 12 month estimate, please do stop exaggerating.)
Oh, and about 180 of those were in lowsec.
I'd be ashamed to have you as an alliance mate, too.
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sophisticatedlimabean
Gallente The JORG Corporation Methods of Mayhem Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.04 14:20:00 -
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Originally by: Ivor Gunn Edited by: Ivor Gunn on 04/10/2007 14:12:09
Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean 1) I spent 1 week in aunenen pirating and making isk out of 10-12 months with FATAL.
Ok. So you make out like you were a major PvPer in FATAL alliance. You managed about 300 kills for 30 losses in your "10-12 months". Utterly pathetic. That's not even a kill a day. (Though, looking closer. Your fatal stats extend for 8 months. a full 4 months short of your 12 month estimate, please do stop exaggerating.)
Oh, and about 180 of those were in lowsec.
I'd be ashamed to have you as an alliance mate, too.
wow you must be the only player in eve without alts cos i had a few in fatal 1 for piracy 1 for empire shall i go on?.
My views may represent those of my corp/alliance but you will have to ask em to be sure. |
DeTox MinRohim
Madhatters Inc. M. PIRE
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Posted - 2007.10.04 14:20:00 -
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Edited by: DeTox MinRohim on 04/10/2007 14:21:10 Dear Journal,
Last night, I went to the store cause she wanted a few things and I took the opportunity to buy a few beers.
I drank them if front of her frowning at me - I bought her some wine but I had to help her finish the bottle. After a few big burps, we went in bed experimenting various theories we had on specific parts of our body...
... no wait...
Mods : Probably should lock that one now, it's out of topic since page 6 or so anyway.
------ This sig space is Read-only ! omgalink - Online Skillsheet |
Ivor Gunn
No One Expects The Spanish Inquisition
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Posted - 2007.10.04 14:22:00 -
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Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean wow you must be the only player in eve without alts cos i had a few in fatal 1 for piracy 1 for empire shall i go on?.
So, who're your uber leet fatal pvp alts, then? You know, to debunk the myth that 3/4 of your time was spent in lowsec ganking newbies.
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sophisticatedlimabean
Gallente The JORG Corporation Methods of Mayhem Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.04 14:28:00 -
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Edited by: sophisticatedlimabean on 04/10/2007 14:30:24
Originally by: Ivor Gunn
Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean wow you must be the only player in eve without alts cos i had a few in fatal 1 for piracy 1 for empire shall i go on?.
So, who're your uber leet fatal pvp alts, then? You know, to debunk the myth that 3/4 of your time was spent in lowsec ganking newbies.
you do not realy expect me to tell you that so il lose my access to the forums and you can start trying to find fault with them as well. And if you look closer at the KB as you seem to like it you will see that most of the low sec kills were in aunenen in a single week as i said.
Also its always a good idea to FC from a cloaker as i did with this toon but thats not my idea i got it from MC.
Gotta love these personal attacks from the guys who led the biggest fail in eve history.
My views may represent those of my corp/alliance but you will have to ask em to be sure. |
Ivor Gunn
No One Expects The Spanish Inquisition
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Posted - 2007.10.04 14:32:00 -
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Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean you do not realy expect me to tell you that so il lose my access to the forums and you can start trying to find fault with them as well.
Well, if you'd been telling the truth and not exaggerating, i'd not be finding any faults at all, would i?
Quote: And if you look closer at the KB as you seem to like it you will see that most of the low sec kills were in aunenen in a single week as i said.
11 days. They make up nigh on 70% of your kills. If this is your main, that is a pathetic contribution to your alliance.
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sophisticatedlimabean
Gallente The JORG Corporation Methods of Mayhem Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.04 14:36:00 -
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Originally by: Ivor Gunn
Well, if you'd been telling the truth and not exaggerating, i'd not be finding any faults at all, would i?
Considering your point was that i spent 3/4 of my time in low sec no your not finding fault your trying to and failing.
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11 days. They make up nigh on 70% of your kills. If this is your main, that is a pathetic contribution to your alliance.
And yes they make up 70% of my kills on this char as i said its my pirate dude your point?.
My views may represent those of my corp/alliance but you will have to ask em to be sure. |
Ivor Gunn
No One Expects The Spanish Inquisition
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Posted - 2007.10.04 14:42:00 -
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Quote: And yes they make up 70% of my kills on this char as i said its my pirate dude your point?.
My point was you have no right to criticse your former alliance mates who stood and fought every day for the last 6 months, while you were either apparantly doing nothing at all, or were in empire. Or, using these mystical magical alts that have yet to be seen by anyone. Sophisticatedlimabean as a character is skilled for fleet BSes, yet it is painfully obvious he never flew them. Instead, by your own admission, you were swanning about cloaked, or pirating, or whoring forums on an alt. and STILL you're proud of your contributions to your alliance.
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sophisticatedlimabean
Gallente The JORG Corporation Methods of Mayhem Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.04 14:49:00 -
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Edited by: sophisticatedlimabean on 04/10/2007 14:51:29 Edited by: sophisticatedlimabean on 04/10/2007 14:49:57
Originally by: Ivor Gunn
My point was you have no right to criticse your former alliance mates who stood and fought every day for the last 6 months, while you were either apparantly doing nothing at all, or were in empire. Or, using these mystical magical alts that have yet to be seen by anyone. Sophisticatedlimabean as a character is skilled for fleet BSes, yet it is painfully obvious he never flew them. Instead, by your own admission, you were swanning about cloaked, or pirating, or whoring forums on an alt. and STILL you're proud of your contributions to your alliance.
So what you do not know you just asume the worst from a negative stance?.
I cannot even begin to count the ammount of gangs ive led or joined on one alt or another for fatal or the ammount of time spent on the test server trying things out or other things than sitting in a BS on a gate sniping at other ships although on one alt or another ive done plenty of that as well.
And even more personal attacks.
They must mean i was'nt right and fatal did'nt fail and fall in the most pathetic way possable.
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Marlon Shakespeare
The Wild Hunt
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Posted - 2007.10.04 14:51:00 -
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Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean I spent 1 week in aunenen pirating and making isk ... before we got a load of carebear *******s ... on the test server over a period of 5-6 months ... by the way its a FC's job to tell people what to do thats where the COMMANDER in FLEET COMMANDER comes from you **** ... I just saw how far the alliance had fallen ... and decided that FATAL was not worth the effort ... im getting plenty of messages from them agreeing and wanting to join us ... quality of leadership,FCing ... the guy who FC'd this disgrace can do is make personal attacks.
So in summary you left (because we were going to lose?) before any of the major battles in the North actually took place, and then come onto the forums (you are an avid poster!) to insult everyone and call them cowards for not fighting harder?
Surely even you can see the irony and hypocrisy in your own posts?
You would have done well to have left graciously with some respect intact. If you fought with half the passion of your forum-warrioring you would have been a worthwhile member of the Alliance.
Take your bitterness to your own thread so we don't have to sift through your nonsense to read the worthwhile posts by our guys who have been (largely) gracious in their defeat and by our opponents who have been (largely) humble in their victory.
Those that fought hard had a blast and will take away great memories of sparring with MM/RZR et.al. We aren't dwelling in the past and are moving on.
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sophisticatedlimabean
Gallente The JORG Corporation Methods of Mayhem Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.04 14:58:00 -
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Originally by: Marlon Shakespeare
Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean I spent 1 week in aunenen pirating and making isk ... before we got a load of carebear *******s ... on the test server over a period of 5-6 months ... by the way its a FC's job to tell people what to do thats where the COMMANDER in FLEET COMMANDER comes from you **** ... I just saw how far the alliance had fallen ... and decided that FATAL was not worth the effort ... im getting plenty of messages from them agreeing and wanting to join us ... quality of leadership,FCing ... the guy who FC'd this disgrace can do is make personal attacks.
So in summary you left (because we were going to lose?) before any of the major battles in the North actually took place, and then come onto the forums (you are an avid poster!) to insult everyone and call them cowards for not fighting harder?
How can you be a coward in a virtual game you r*tard?. Incompetant yes, self deluding yes, stupid and narrow minded yes yes, selfish to the point of self destruction most certainly YES.
Please show me where i put cowardly cos on your newst snip i dont see it.
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