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Ix Forres
Vanguard Frontiers INVICTUS.
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Posted - 2007.10.03 19:50:00 -
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OK, after seeing the number of sites which offer advertising for ISK (EVE-Files to name but one), I figured that a much neater and simpler solution for both webmasters and advertisers could be found.
So, I cooked up ISKsense. It's been in development for a month or so and has been fairly well tested on a number of sites.
The trick with ISKsense is that instead of advertising on single sites you advertise on a large number of websites at one time, so you get much better coverage for even less work than typical methods of advertising. It's a simple way of handing out adverts, with huge levels of customisation for advertisers and webmasters.
It's still in 'beta' in that I'm still open to feature suggestions and tweaking things for performance, but it's all working- including the automation system.
Basically, to get money into the system as an advertiser you simply associate a character to the system using a limited API key (And no, we don't store any data apart from your EVE character name and character ID. We don't even store your API key). Once the system knows that character belongs to your ISKsense account, you just send money from that character to the character ISKsense Agent. After an hour (maximum, often much less) you'll have however much you sent added to your ISKsense account. Once the money is in your account, you simply set up adverts and you're good to rock and roll. Just set up adverts and they'll automatically go out. You pay for the clicks you get on your adverts.
If you're a webmaster, just set up your website and create adboxes on that website- adverts will be shown on your website automatically. You're paid for clicks on your website and can withdraw your profits at any time by requesting it using the easy-to-use interface, and it'll be sent to your character as soon as possible.
Features
- Adverts may be targeted at continents
- Both full and linkbar styles of advert boxes
- Websites can filter out unwanted websites
- Flexible control over adbox appearance
- Easy withdrawal request system
ISKsense is basically a way to automate the boring and troublesome work of EVE-Online website advertising. It's easy to use and means you can set up adverts instantly and have them out immediately if you have ISKsense credit established- so it's perfect for very small adverts like contract ads.
So, head on over and have a play around. If you'd like to suggest a feature or report a bug, do so on the bugtracker (tag with feature for feature requests).
ISKsense
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Tarminic
Black Flame Industries
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Posted - 2007.10.03 19:57:00 -
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If your site successfully does what you say it does, then I'm impressed with your work as a fellow software engineer/webmaster. Though I'm too poor to use your services, good work and best of luck.  ------------ Whiners - Unite! | Posting and You Tarminic - Forum Warfare Specialist. |

Salvis Tallan
Gallente The Shadow Order SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.03 20:01:00 -
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This is really well thought out. Cant wait to finish rewriting my site for this. Question, Can I set up some sort of automated payment method? Like if I get 10 mil in my account it tells you to give me the isk? Or even better if I want to advertise with you and show your ads, move money from one aco**** into the other? ------
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Ix Forres
Vanguard Frontiers INVICTUS.
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Posted - 2007.10.03 20:08:00 -
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Edited by: Ix Forres on 03/10/2007 20:08:37
Originally by: Salvis Tallan This is really well thought out. Cant wait to finish rewriting my site for this. Question, Can I set up some sort of automated payment method? Like if I get 10 mil in my account it tells you to give me the isk? Or even better if I want to advertise with you and show your ads, move money from one aco**** into the other?
I'll look into automated withdrawal requesting- right now I can't withdraw on a limit (User x has 10mISK, should withdraw) in the case of advertisers, but I'll have a go at that.
It all uses the same 'wallet' for ISK if you're advertising and providing ads. You can be a webmaster and advertise at the same time and everything stays in the same account.
Originally by: Tarminic If your site successfully does what you say it does, then I'm impressed with your work as a fellow software engineer/webmaster. Though I'm too poor to use your services, good work and best of luck. 
Thanks!
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Diakara
Vortex Corporation
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Posted - 2007.10.03 22:11:00 -
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Originally by: Ix Forres
ISKsense is basically a way to automate the boring and troublesome work of EVE-Online website advertising. It's easy to use and means you can set up adverts instantly and have them out immediately if you have ISKsense credit established- so it's perfect for very small adverts like contract ads.
Highlighted text piques my interest, a lot. I think it'd be awesome to have a site that lists contracts, with various different filters and such.
And by awesome, I mean I want to see it done.
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Ix Forres
Vanguard Frontiers INVICTUS.
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Posted - 2007.10.03 23:11:00 -
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Originally by: Diakara
Originally by: Ix Forres
ISKsense is basically a way to automate the boring and troublesome work of EVE-Online website advertising. It's easy to use and means you can set up adverts instantly and have them out immediately if you have ISKsense credit established- so it's perfect for very small adverts like contract ads.
Highlighted text piques my interest, a lot. I think it'd be awesome to have a site that lists contracts, with various different filters and such.
And by awesome, I mean I want to see it done.
Hm, could be interesting to have a stab at a dedicated contracts section. Anyone else got any input on something like this? Maybe I'll give it a go..
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Splagada
Minmatar Tides of Silence Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.03 23:31:00 -
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Edited by: Splagada on 03/10/2007 23:33:28 i use it and i appreciate the frequent updates on the code
:)
the idea totally rocks imo. finally out of those isk selling adsense crap ! ------
Proud Janitor of Tides of Silence
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Ix Forres
Vanguard Frontiers INVICTUS.
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Posted - 2007.10.04 08:57:00 -
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Originally by: Splagada Edited by: Splagada on 03/10/2007 23:33:28 i use it and i appreciate the frequent updates on the code
:)
the idea totally rocks imo. finally out of those isk selling adsense crap !
I can't take full credit for the idea, annoyingly. Salvis came up with the idea and I implemented it. So, full credit for thinking up the idea to him 
And yeah, having ISK sellers all over the place on Adsense gets really, really annoying.
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Splagada
Minmatar Tides of Silence Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.04 09:06:00 -
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my acct shows 0 isk but my adboxes show profit! a whole lot 200k isk woah, but they arent displayed in the acct "wallet"
did i fubar some config? ------
Proud Janitor of Tides of Silence
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Ix Forres
Vanguard Frontiers INVICTUS.
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Posted - 2007.10.04 17:53:00 -
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Originally by: Splagada my acct shows 0 isk but my adboxes show profit! a whole lot 200k isk woah, but they arent displayed in the acct "wallet"
did i fubar some config?
Possibly- I'll have a look, but has anything gone _out_ of your account, perchance? :) Just checking.
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Commander TC
Righteous Chaps
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Posted - 2007.10.04 23:08:00 -
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Any plans to make this IGB friendly?
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Ix Forres
Vanguard Frontiers INVICTUS.
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Posted - 2007.10.04 23:15:00 -
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Originally by: Commander TC Any plans to make this IGB friendly?
Not _yet_, but it's on the to-do list to create an IGB section of the site.
Advertisers can use XML feeds to obtain adverts for displaying ads on IGB websites, too, though the return path for statistics for that is still in the works. 
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Diakara
Vortex Corporation
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Posted - 2007.10.05 20:33:00 -
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Originally by: Ix Forres
Originally by: Diakara
My post
Hm, could be interesting to have a stab at a dedicated contracts section. Anyone else got any input on something like this? Maybe I'll give it a go..
Could this be done to interface with EVE contracts, removing a contract if it's already been taken, or getting a list of contracts from a registered character automatically (looking through character contracts and grabbing ones with "isksense" in the description, maybe?) and getting all its public data (price, time, items, etc)?
Or is something like that beyond what the API can provide?
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Ix Forres
Vanguard Frontiers INVICTUS.
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Posted - 2007.10.05 20:58:00 -
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Originally by: Diakara
Originally by: Ix Forres
Originally by: Diakara
My post
Hm, could be interesting to have a stab at a dedicated contracts section. Anyone else got any input on something like this? Maybe I'll give it a go..
Could this be done to interface with EVE contracts, removing a contract if it's already been taken, or getting a list of contracts from a registered character automatically (looking through character contracts and grabbing ones with "isksense" in the description, maybe?) and getting all its public data (price, time, items, etc)?
Or is something like that beyond what the API can provide?
The API doesn't support anything for contracts unfortunately 
I'm doing some rather nifty stuff at really opening up flexibility with the adboxes by implementing a template system to let you customise your adboxes using raw HTML. Example over here.
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Diakara
Vortex Corporation
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Posted - 2007.10.06 17:04:00 -
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Originally by: Ix Forres
Originally by: Diakara
Originally by: Ix Forres
Originally by: Diakara
My post
His post
My other post
The API doesn't support anything for contracts unfortunately 
I'm doing some rather nifty stuff at really opening up flexibility with the adboxes by implementing a template system to let you customise your adboxes using raw HTML. Example over here.
The description for that sounds neat, sadly I'm severely web-tech impaired so I really don't have a clue.
Are you in contact with any API devs about this whole thing, they given you any feedback? You might be able to sort of nudge them to expand the API a bit?
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Ix Forres
Vanguard Frontiers INVICTUS.
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Posted - 2007.10.06 18:17:00 -
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Originally by: Diakara Are you in contact with any API devs about this whole thing, they given you any feedback? You might be able to sort of nudge them to expand the API a bit?
Yeah and yeah- but nudging doesn't stop Garthagk having a workload ;)
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Ombey
Obsidian Inc. KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.08 17:43:00 -
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Nice one Ix, I'll give this a go on my site 
Love the customisation available, and the fact I won't get any bloody ISK sellers.
Great work! -- 2d EveMaps
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Hexxx
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.10.08 19:14:00 -
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You and I should talk sometime.
Consulting, IPO Template, and Stock/Bond definitions.
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Ix Forres
Vanguard Frontiers INVICTUS.
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Posted - 2007.10.08 19:32:00 -
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Originally by: Ombey Nice one Ix, I'll give this a go on my site 
Love the customisation available, and the fact I won't get any bloody ISK sellers.
Great work!
The customisation should be getting _loads_ better once I get the whole Liquid thing sorted out- it's taking a tad longer than expected due to some typically crappy documentation and dodgy libraries.
Originally by: Hexxx You and I should talk sometime.
Feel free to give me a shout- I'm available ingame or as Ix_Forres on Coldfront IRC. I hang out in #evetv and #eve-dev, so catch me there.
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Morphisat
Rakeriku Otaku Invasion
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Posted - 2007.10.08 19:45:00 -
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Edited by: Morphisat on 08/10/2007 19:45:40 Very nice, I just signed up and replaced my Google adsense ads. The font is a little small though, would be nice to get an option to tweak that a little. Other than that, a very nice service :).
http://www.morphisat.tk
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Ix Forres
Vanguard Frontiers INVICTUS.
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Posted - 2007.10.08 19:49:00 -
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Originally by: Morphisat Edited by: Morphisat on 08/10/2007 19:45:40 Very nice, I just signed up and replaced my Google adsense ads. The font is a little small though, would be nice to get an option to tweak that a little. Other than that, a very nice service :).
http://www.morphisat.tk
Try putting your ads in a <div style="font-size:110%"> *ADS HERE* </div> block.
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Morphisat
Rakeriku Otaku Invasion
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Posted - 2007.10.08 20:21:00 -
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Ah ofcourse :). I'll try that tomorrow, thanks for the quick reply !
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Ombey
Obsidian Inc. KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.12 21:17:00 -
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This is well worth a bump. If you have a Eve website, sign up for this great service and get Eve related ads on your site- free, easy to setup, and it works very nicely. You get ISK per click.
If you are advertising an Eve service, give it a try. It's not expensive, and you can get advertising like you wouldn't dream of, right to your target audience.
Props to Ix Forres! -- 2d EveMaps
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Ix Forres
Vanguard Frontiers INVICTUS.
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Posted - 2007.10.13 22:50:00 -
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Originally by: Ombey Props to Ix Forres!
Cheers! I'm working pretty much non-stop on the next major update, with Liquid and other improvements, and hopefully ISKsense will be supporting topping up or withdrawing your funds via EVE-Bank soon too. Good stuff all round :)
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Carlise Aragon
The Eve Killboard Corporation
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Posted - 2007.10.25 12:54:00 -
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did your server die or is my net connection fubar'd again??
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Ix Forres
Vanguard Frontiers INVICTUS.
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Posted - 2007.10.25 13:22:00 -
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Originally by: Carlise Aragon did your server die or is my net connection fubar'd again??
Yes, there was a server network problem- it's been fixed and shouldn't happen again.
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Carlise Aragon
The Eve Killboard Corporation
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Posted - 2007.10.31 06:26:00 -
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u dont seem to be having much luck with this server of yours do you??
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