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ColdheartedKilla
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Posted - 2007.10.08 04:26:00 -
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Hello,
The poor fleet Tempest is so poor when compared to the other military issue battleships. The extra mid slot does nothing to warrant me buying one over a standard tempest.
What i propose is a simple change. Give the ship a 7th turret slot, whilst keeping the slots for missiles. I mean its not the best tanking ship around so why not give it a role so it can be used in a decent manner.
The navy megathron still keep awesome damage but gets that extra ability to tank with the 8th low slot. If the two ships met in battle its not rocket science to choose a winner 9 times out of ten here.
I see the nigtmare is recieving a new facelift so why not trial this?
In my eyes its broken so please give it a chance to compete.
Comments?
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Centurion1
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Posted - 2007.10.08 04:58:00 -
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Fleet tempest > navy apoc true story
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CaperPuts
Minmatar Life. Universe. Everything. Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.08 06:32:00 -
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Removing the extra med and adding a turret would be very VERY nice. In fact, I'd probably buy one even... I have suggested it many times. I really hope they do this.
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Riho
Magnificent Beavers Exquisite Malevolence
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Posted - 2007.10.08 07:19:00 -
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more gunzz :)
id buy one if it could fit one more turret... atm i prefer machariel over fleet tempest
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slothe
Caldari 0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.10.08 07:21:00 -
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need more pg to fit an extra gun. struggle to fit 6 guns never mind 7.
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Adqam
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2007.10.08 08:12:00 -
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I'm not a minmatar pilot, but to me the idea of an extra mid on a battleship that already has 5 sounds fantastic. Just think of the flexibility!
MWD + Scram + Capbooster + Web + Web + Tracking disruptor = dead neutron Megathron
Much as I love Gallente, I have been seriously thinking of crosstraining Minmatar just for this ship. -- I like cheese. |
Talasan
The Bratwurst Burglars
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Posted - 2007.10.08 08:25:00 -
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Originally by: Adqam I'm not a minmatar pilot, but to me the idea of an extra mid on a battleship that already has 5 sounds fantastic. Just think of the flexibility!
MWD + Scram + Capbooster + Web + Web + Tracking disruptor = dead neutron Megathron
Much as I love Gallente, I have been seriously thinking of crosstraining Minmatar just for this ship.
neutron mega + null = 24km range or something stupid?
how would 2 webs help lol
i agree, 6th mid is useless, give it an extra turret and play with the pg a wee bit to compensate
"minmatar got the shaft again? sure ill bend over right away" |
Nian Banks
Minmatar Berserkers of Aesir
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Posted - 2007.10.08 08:43:00 -
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CCP have promised for months to introduce faction warfare and each day d-day is getting closer, basically what I am trying to say is that we would hope that CCP will take the opportunity/initiative and roll out at the same time new faction ships (destroyers/battlecruisers/capitals) and revisit/revise the current ships.
Basically with the new lp shop it should be done and realistically if the empire/faction you work for wants you to fight for them then they would offer you their entire catalogue of faction equipment for a price.
So boost the fleet issue tempest for sure, But work on the others at the same time also.
Oh and I like the idea of an extra turret, but yes more griid at the same time.
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Adqam
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2007.10.08 09:35:00 -
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Originally by: Talasan neutron mega + null = 24km range or something stupid?
how would 2 webs help lol
Maxed skill Neutron Mega with Null does 441 DPS at optimal (no DM, all skills level 5). Using domination webs and a tracking disruptor (as stated in my setup) you can bring the optimal down to ~ 5k, putting you 10k into his 16k falloff - a significant reduction in damage - plus he won't be able to track you as well.
At 15km out, you're only 10k into the 30k of falloff on dual 650mm with Barrage L, giving him most of your DPS still.
Or, fit two damps instead of 2nd Web + Tracking disruptor, and pack ECM drones. Or fit ECM, or fit ECCM so you can't be jammed, fit sensor boosters for pods...
Flexibility over DPS? -- I like cheese. |
Testy Mctest
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Posted - 2007.10.08 09:41:00 -
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Yeh, I heard mids suck.
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Sokratesz
Paradox v2.0
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Posted - 2007.10.08 09:46:00 -
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6 Mids seems nice but isn't that useful, it could relaly do with an extra gun and some cpu/grid.
Paradox V2.0 is recruiting! |
Leandro Salazar
The Blackguard Wolves Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2007.10.08 09:57:00 -
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Edited by: Leandro Salazar on 08/10/2007 09:57:09 The big thing is that 6 mids is nothing special. Maelstrom has it already. 7 projectiles with a damage and RoF bonus would be something special. And having something special is what makes or breaks faction ships. Not to mention that at least imho 5 meds provide plenty of versatility already so the 6th is only making is slightly better in an already good area. While the damage is subpar, and a 7th turret would really make the ship competitive in that department.
There is no 'n' in turret There is no 'r' in faction There is no 'a' in Scorpion There is no 'e' in Caldari There is no makeup in rogue drones |
achoura
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Posted - 2007.10.08 10:06:00 -
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Originally by: Adqam
Originally by: Talasan neutron mega + null = 24km range or something stupid?
how would 2 webs help lol
Maxed skill Neutron Mega with Null does 441 DPS at optimal (no DM, all skills level 5). Using domination webs and a tracking disruptor (as stated in my setup) you can bring the optimal down to ~ 5k, putting you 10k into his 16k falloff - a significant reduction in damage - plus he won't be able to track you as well.
At 15km out, you're only 10k into the 30k of falloff on dual 650mm with Barrage L, giving him most of your DPS still.
Or, fit two damps instead of 2nd Web + Tracking disruptor, and pack ECM drones. Or fit ECM, or fit ECCM so you can't be jammed, fit sensor boosters for pods...
Flexibility over DPS?
This is an examle of a mega that fell off the back of a lorry, 441.....
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Sokratesz
Paradox v2.0
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Posted - 2007.10.08 10:17:00 -
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Originally by: achoura
This is an examle of a mega that fell off the back of a lorry, 441.....
WTS reading 101:
Quote: (no DM, all skills level 5)
Paradox V2.0 is recruiting! |
HW Chopper
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Posted - 2007.10.08 11:46:00 -
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i agree on more bang bangs for the faction pest
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iiOs
Blood Corsair's
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Posted - 2007.10.08 11:54:00 -
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while we at it, give machariel 1 more turret and pg/cpu to fit it plz
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Maximada
Minmatar Porta Incendia
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Posted - 2007.10.10 04:27:00 -
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/Signed.
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