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Valei Khurelem
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Posted - 2012.01.23 13:05:00 -
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I thought I'd try this in curiosity to see just how well defended 0.0 alliance space is, the reasoning? Mainly for fun, but also there is a serious side of it because some member of these alliances were claiming my idea to stop gate camps would make sovereignty more difficult to defend.
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Do any of these people arguing on the forums actually play EVE? it seems that you'll only zealously defend your chokepoints to get easy kills and loot when it comes to the rest of 0.0 you don't seem all that bothered, but honestly, I know full well this would be impossible in anything but an interceptor or a covert ops frigate, but why the hell can't people come up with an idea that we all like to make the game more fun for everyone?
Or do you genuinely like having an empty portion of space all to yourself with no one else in it? If that's the case you may as well play minecraft, it's actually pretty sad seeing what supposedly should be the most exciting part of EVE be a complete snooze fest if you decide to go off and randomly explore it on your own without any pre-arranged group sessions.
For everyone's curiosity, I also only found one or two gate camps on the way to this part of 0.0 space.
"don't get us wrong, we don't want to screw new players, on the contrary. The core problem here is that tech 1 frigates and cruisers should be appealing enough to be viable platforms in both PvE and PvP." -á - CCP Ytterbium |
Kagan Storm
Silver Snake Enterprise Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2012.01.23 13:10:00 -
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You heard of PL. They have no space and play super caps online.
Rest just have space and play suprcaps online....
My advice.... remove 0.0 people from lovsec moons. That should give you enough money to take a system My ego is the the size of my carriers jump range. |
Valei Khurelem
200
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Posted - 2012.01.23 13:12:00 -
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I just think it's sad really, you have all this nerf whining while people are ignoring the blatantly obvious issues at hand, they were all giving me the impression if I went into their space in a pod I'd get ganked instantly as if they were a passive-aggressive CONCORD, doesn't seem to be the case.
"don't get us wrong, we don't want to screw new players, on the contrary. The core problem here is that tech 1 frigates and cruisers should be appealing enough to be viable platforms in both PvE and PvP." -á - CCP Ytterbium |
Blawrf McTaggart
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
309
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Posted - 2012.01.23 13:12:00 -
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congrats on going to the arse-end of nowhere when we're busy invading a region |
Valei Khurelem
200
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Posted - 2012.01.23 13:14:00 -
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When are you going to gank me you giant ******* carebear pussies?
"don't get us wrong, we don't want to screw new players, on the contrary. The core problem here is that tech 1 frigates and cruisers should be appealing enough to be viable platforms in both PvE and PvP." -á - CCP Ytterbium |
Blawrf McTaggart
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
309
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Posted - 2012.01.23 13:20:00 -
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i dunno, i'm busy in venal |
Blawrf McTaggart
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
309
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Posted - 2012.01.23 13:20:00 -
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i mean, really, you're in a pod. you're no harm to anyone. i, personally, would make you fly all the way home just because it's funnier. |
Pip x2
Easy Co. Fatal Ascension
0
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Posted - 2012.01.23 13:29:00 -
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This!
Also expecting people to actually bother with someone who clearly does not pose a threat? Bring a few friends next time, so we can GF in local :)
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Valei Khurelem
200
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Posted - 2012.01.23 13:36:00 -
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It amazes me how you will gank someone in a gate camp who's in nothing more than a noob ship or a pod but when they're deep within your territory you can't be bothered?
Laziness at its finest.
"don't get us wrong, we don't want to screw new players, on the contrary. The core problem here is that tech 1 frigates and cruisers should be appealing enough to be viable platforms in both PvE and PvP." -á - CCP Ytterbium |
Blawrf McTaggart
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
309
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Posted - 2012.01.23 13:37:00 -
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yeah, pretty much. i'm not prepared to go 20+ jumps in order to kill a pod. that's boring. |
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Blawrf McTaggart
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
309
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Posted - 2012.01.23 13:37:00 -
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and involves logging on. |
Valei Khurelem
200
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Posted - 2012.01.23 13:39:00 -
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GoonSwarm disappoints me :(
"don't get us wrong, we don't want to screw new players, on the contrary. The core problem here is that tech 1 frigates and cruisers should be appealing enough to be viable platforms in both PvE and PvP." -á - CCP Ytterbium |
Tallian Saotome
Fractured Core Fatal Ascension
348
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Posted - 2012.01.23 13:54:00 -
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Space does not need defending from any solo player, unless you have a supercap in your back pocket. If you WERE to attack anything, every corp/alliance director or higher would get an email telling what you were attacking, with what(iirc) and they would respond appropriately.
By ignoring it, unless it was a capship, since no subcap can really hurt structures solo.
And this is one of the issues that most people in nullsec want to fix, so we can make people fight us by attacking their structures in small groups(POCOs ftw)
In short, you don't deploy soldiers to swat a gnat, you ignore it. o/`-á Lord, I want to be a gynecologist.. KY, rubber gloves, and a flashlight.-á o/` |
BrokenBC
Incompertus INC Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2012.01.23 14:05:00 -
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Valei Khurelem wrote:It amazes me how you will gank someone in a gate camp who's in nothing more than a noob ship or a pod but when they're deep within your territory you can't be bothered?
Laziness at its finest.
So let me get this strait.You got ganked at some random gate camp and thats pissed you off.Instead of grabbing a combat ship and coming out for some pay back you tool around in a pod and are pissed because no one will kill you?Hmm... Ill tell you what ill do.bring your pod to L-C3O and say somthing in local And Ill be happy to kill you.:) Im just a nice guy that way.Or if you like we can do rifters at the sun. |
Ogi Talvanen
Enlightened Industries Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.01.23 14:09:00 -
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Valei Khurelem wrote:I thought I'd try this in curiosity to see just how well defended 0.0 alliance space is, the reasoning? Mainly for fun, but also there is a serious side of it because some member of these alliances were claiming my idea to stop gate camps would make sovereignty more difficult to defend..
Clearly you don't know what defending 0.0 space is all about.
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Akrasjel Lanate
Naquatech Conglomerate
521
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Posted - 2012.01.23 14:43:00 -
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Valei Khurelem wrote:GoonSwarm disappoints me :(
What did you expect from goons |
Mortis vonShadow
Balanaz Mining and Development Inc.
432
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Posted - 2012.01.23 16:57:00 -
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There, fixed that for ya. Some days you're the bug, and some days your the windscreen. -á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á And some days, you're just a man with a gun. |
Valei Khurelem
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Posted - 2012.01.23 17:21:00 -
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Ogi Talvanen wrote:Valei Khurelem wrote:I thought I'd try this in curiosity to see just how well defended 0.0 alliance space is, the reasoning? Mainly for fun, but also there is a serious side of it because some member of these alliances were claiming my idea to stop gate camps would make sovereignty more difficult to defend.. Clearly you don't know what defending 0.0 space is all about.
lololololloolo
"don't get us wrong, we don't want to screw new players, on the contrary. The core problem here is that tech 1 frigates and cruisers should be appealing enough to be viable platforms in both PvE and PvP." -á - CCP Ytterbium |
Kagan Storm
Silver Snake Enterprise Against ALL Authorities
52
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Posted - 2012.01.23 17:34:00 -
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i have a solution how to destroy a 0.0 alliance without any problem.
You interested?
95% chance it will work. My ego is the the size of my carriers jump range. |
Valei Khurelem
204
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Posted - 2012.01.23 17:48:00 -
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Let me guess, I need to pay you ISK or tax once it's done?
"don't get us wrong, we don't want to screw new players, on the contrary. The core problem here is that tech 1 frigates and cruisers should be appealing enough to be viable platforms in both PvE and PvP." -á - CCP Ytterbium |
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Kagan Storm
Silver Snake Enterprise Against ALL Authorities
52
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Posted - 2012.01.23 17:56:00 -
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No. Promise only you will use your new leard skills/power for good
My ego is the the size of my carriers jump range. |
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
159
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Posted - 2012.01.23 18:11:00 -
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Not podding you and making you fly home at handicap speed is nastier than giving you the quick way out. |
Admiral Pelleon
White Shadow Imperium The Forsaken.
38
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Posted - 2012.01.23 21:14:00 -
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Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:Not podding you and making you fly home at handicap speed is nastier than giving you the quick way out.
Yep.
Pods pose less than no threat, as we'd rather make you fly all the way back then save you the trip. Those who cannot keep up will be left behind, to watch from a distance. And those who stand in our way will not watch at all. |
Kagan Storm
Silver Snake Enterprise Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2012.01.23 21:40:00 -
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Admiral Pelleon wrote:Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:Not podding you and making you fly home at handicap speed is nastier than giving you the quick way out. Yep. Pods pose less than no threat, as we'd rather make you fly all the way back then save you the trip.
Al tho i agree with you that is one of the most shameful thing you can do to a person.... I remember in my career just siting on ts and listening to people screaming on how the pod manege to escape.... so this only reinforces the fact EvE is not a game for all people that loog in. My ego is the the size of my carriers jump range. |
Karadion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
329
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Posted - 2012.01.23 22:38:00 -
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Well if Bangerlogs were still living there, you'd might have been podded but we kicked them out a long time ago. Seriously, you picked UJY. No one bothers to do anything there. |
Admiral Pelleon
White Shadow Imperium The Forsaken.
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Posted - 2012.01.23 23:24:00 -
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Kagan Storm wrote:Admiral Pelleon wrote:Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:Not podding you and making you fly home at handicap speed is nastier than giving you the quick way out. Yep. Pods pose less than no threat, as we'd rather make you fly all the way back then save you the trip. Al tho i agree with you that is one of the most shameful thing you can do to a person.... I remember in my career just siting on ts and listening to people screaming on how the pod manege to escape.... so this only reinforces the fact EvE is not a game for all people that loog in.
I can understand that sentiment some times.
Hell, we had a retriever tackled in Delve once for 45 minutes while people clone jumped up from empire to get on the killmail.
Ah... memories. Those who cannot keep up will be left behind, to watch from a distance. And those who stand in our way will not watch at all. |
Lyrrashae
Crushed Ambitions Reckless Ambition
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Posted - 2012.01.24 01:56:00 -
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Um.
The cesspit known as CAOD NO to Drake and Tier 2 Battlecruiser nerfs. NO to Alliances in Faction Warfare NO to "wormhole mass-stabilisers." **** NO to the cancers that are sov-nullsec Alliances metastasising throughout EVE! |
Cardval Simalia
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
6
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Posted - 2012.01.24 02:01:00 -
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SBU the system claim it as your own. 1 day later..... |
Abdiel Kavash
Paladin Order Fidelas Constans
333
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Posted - 2012.01.24 02:12:00 -
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Let me explain this to you in RL terms:
You went to the deepest arse end of nowhere in the middle of Alaska and set off a petard. Now you claim the US government doesn't care about terrorist bombings. |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
1158
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Posted - 2012.01.24 02:42:00 -
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Quick question you guys.
I can confirm that 0.0 is very empty in a lot of places. I use wormholes to find those places and I won't see anybody else for days at a time, even a week on two expeditions.
But I use a Cyclone fit for the task. Poorly fit, I must add.
Rarely have I been hunted successfully, but I have been hunted but more for causing bots to dock up than anything else, smacktalk in Russian sold seperately.
My question:
If a noob or lone wolf in the middle of nowhere with a pod or cruiser/BC or whatever is not a big deal and would not garner much attention, what would happen if said pilot was flying a cyno-capable SB?
Does the ship type matter then?
I am not planning of sneaking about in an SB (crappy exploration ships - not enough slots for all that stuff) but I would expect that what a person is flying would certainly make a difference.
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