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xxanjoahir
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.02.03 00:34:00 -
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Wolodymyr wrote:Well one quick fix to help the economy is to have incursions only give out LP. People will still make money selling LP store goods but it'll make incursions into an isk sink rather than an isk faucet.
Also there need to be ""noobcursions" something that can be run with 2 to 4 people with the same payout and difficulty of running level 1, 2, and 3 missions in highsec.
Right now people running incursions are either in pimped out faction battleships or T2 logi. So the incursion FCs, who are usually part of the big incursion running cartels, tell noobs that if they want to get in on the action they either need enough isk to get a pimp fit faction battleship or enough skill points to fly a T2 logistics cruiser.
I always imagined incursions existing as a way to get newer players involved in group activities, not for highsec carebears to grind isk more efficiently.
the economy is not suffering...inflation is well within expectations
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xxanjoahir
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.02.07 18:15:00 -
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LOL-ing at all you "ASSHAT - INCURSIONS MUST DIE THEY ARE SPOILING THE GAME" - BULLSHIT...
Proof that these are just a form of pve and a great (for those that understand eve) EMERGENT game play.
Now quit the bullshit and enjoy farming or griefing... Jury is out on this... |
xxanjoahir
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.02.09 13:20:00 -
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Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:I swore I would not get into this again, but John Turbefield (CCP), has provided HARD, REAL numbers about Incursions, and other PVE numbers for the entire month of January.
Let's have a look at them, shall we? BTW, these are from his twitter feeds YESTERDAY.
4.37tn ISK paid out in agent mission rewards in Jan 2012. 8.13tn ISK paid out in Incursion rewards in Jan 2012. 27.03tn ISK paid out in NPC bounty rewards in Jan 2012.
The total for those 3 numbers is 39.53 trillion. Incursion payments were 8.13/39.53 = 20.56% of ALL PVE payouts in ALL of Eve in January.
That of course does not include loot and faction items dropped in plexes and from rats. Only loot dropped by Incursion rats are the potential BPC's, which are usually scooped by Ninja thieves in high sec.
So the impact of Incursions on PvE total pay is significantly less than 20% of the total payouts. And given that many of those running Incursions would be grinding ISK in those L4's and plexes anyway, Incursions are a DROP IN THE BUCKET when it comes to PvE pay in Eve.
So enough of the hyperbole and lies from all the griefers and general asshats. CCP, leave Incursions alone.
I could envision a change in the payout structure so the more complex sites get a better payout and VG's slightly less, but NO OTHER changes are necessary.
GAME OVER INCURSION MONKEYS GO SWING UP THE OTHER TREE, THE EVIDENCE IS RIGHT THERE AND IS FACT. |
xxanjoahir
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.04.30 18:07:00 -
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funny how incursions promised so much in terms of emergent game stlyes - characters corps and alliances all set up to combat the farming......
people having fun killing bling bling ships - shame ccp (not sure which one) is it either wouldn't or couldn't come up with a 2nd chapter to this ISK farming....
shame that the only farming that they wont touch is moon mining and how much isk that generates from doing sweet fa and having no risk.....an activity that is something completely non-teamwork effective....
im only sad that this part of the game was great fun and CCP caved .. |
xxanjoahir
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.04.30 18:39:00 -
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Amsterdam Conversations wrote:supersexysucker wrote:Nerf moons, 0.0 has no effort moons, highsec has effort incrusions... you want to nerf incrusions... then get around to them moons too...
Takes what, 1 falcon to screw a whole fleet in an incrusion... billions in loses... takes um what, 1000 people to even try to attack a tech moon. Can't really say risk vs reward now can we?
Also nerf chain ratting if that is still around since all these 0.0 bears seem to want to nerf HS more danger isk.
rofl. High sec carebear assuming that 0.0 people actually don't want their moons nerfed. My counter proposal: Nerf moons and incursions to the ground. On a different note, your arguments are pretty ****.
I am sick to the back teeth of everyones first reaction when something that people enjoy doing together and pays well is to nerf it to high heaven and back......you did it with the nano nerf, you did it with sc's and titans and dreads.
STOP FUCKIN THINKING LIKE THIS > STOP NERFING THINGS FOR NERFING SAKE AND BE BRAVE ENOUGH TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING TOTALLY ORGINAL THAT BRINGS A "2ND CHAPTER" TO THE GAME.
I was urging you on to not go down the nerf route and come up with a totally unique game play to high sec and low sec incursions. something totally new to the game and would mean even high seccers would think "**** me this is good".
CCP; STOP NERFING, PLAYERS STOP SUGGESTING THINGS ARE NERFED JUST BECUASE THEIR SAND CASTLE IS BETTER THAN YOURS. CCP THINK OUT THE BOX AND INVENT NEW MODS, SHIPS AND NEW WAYS TO CREATE EMERGENT GAME STLYES.... WELL DONE, HIGH SEC INCURSIONS WERE SLOWLY EVOLVING INTO A BRAND NEW EMERGENT GAME STYLE WHERE THE CRY BABIES WERE DOING SOMETHING ABOUT IT..... YOU JUST KILLED IT. |
xxanjoahir
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.04.30 19:00:00 -
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it could have been so much more fun....
just off my head now when you are in the area of incursions you are either a terrorist (fighting for sansha's) or counter-terrorist (fighting against sansha)... you choose what team you are on which is active for the entire duration of the incursion....
"2nd chapter" achieved, farming disrupted... people continue to have fun... and this seamingly ignorant perception that high sec incursions carry no risk is reduced since now cry babies can something about it....= emergent game play...
3rd chapter - new mods and ships used in the different sites to cotribute to the risk of running incursions = another new emergent game play.
you wanted variety i just gave you one that would open a selection box.
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xxanjoahir
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.05.03 17:18:00 -
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i have had 10 guys unsub due to the changes... they were new to the game and enjoyed how VG's were helping them develop and get involved in other forms of eve...
sorry but i am a true believer that CCP got this completely wrong and shouldn't have caved... |
xxanjoahir
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.05.03 17:28:00 -
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Fannie Maes wrote:xxanjoahir wrote:i have had 10 guys unsub due to the changes... they were new to the game and enjoyed how VG's were helping them develop and get involved in other forms of eve...
sorry but i am a true believer that CCP got this completely wrong and shouldn't have caved... Incursions were too easy, too fast and too rewarding. Level 4 missions is rewarding enough as it is, anymore and people will never have reason to venture into low-sec or 0.0
thats BS: they were easy becuse people worked together... all CCP needed to do was mix them up... rather than pull the **** out their arse. |
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