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Mr Bodacious
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Posted - 2007.10.12 00:41:00 -
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Let me start this thread off by saying the following: Fleet ops and soloing are BORING as heck, 90% of the time you are flying around or idle on a gate.
Now, allow me to introduce myself. I'm a college student goin for music, and I love the pvp this game offers. I am constantly excited about the prospect of finding a good, even (or close) matched fight, in which I may not be able to win, but get a good challenge (and adrenaline rush )
I have thought about this idea a bit. It is kind of impulsive and it may not work, but I'll explain it anyway.
I want to create a chat channel. Not just any channel, but a channel for fighters to go to look for good, clean 1 on 1 action. (or whatever odds you prefer!!!)
The idea is that fighters will join the channel, and advertise who they are, what their points are (not skillpoints, this will be explained in a few lines) and what kind of fight they are looking for. Hopefully, someone who wants to fight that person will respond, and a fight will be arranged between the two.
Allow me to explain the points and rules system: You will mail me, or post in here with a link to, your CURRENT in-eve skill sheet. You MUST include with this link, a description of the ships you can fly and what types of modules you can use. There are NO OFFICER OR FACTION FITS ALLOWED. The reason for this being is that there is to be no bad blood between fighters other than your common smacking. I don't want someone to lose 4bil on a faction/officer fitted ship. Therefore, you must say with your link if you use tech 2 high slots, mid slots, and low slots. I will not ask you for your specific modules.
Please, do not be lame and lie. This is meant to be combat between two honorable opponents, sanctioned by the channel. If you lie, you will be immediately removed from the channel and you will not be welcome back.
The breakdown for your ship: T1 high slots = 100 T1 mid slots = 50 T1 low slots = 50 T2 slots are *2 the value of their T1 counterparts.
But, why the in-eve link? Simple. Because you have sent me the list of ships you will be flying, I will personally go into your skill sheet and view your skills in the relevant areas, PER SHIP. Yes, we want fighters to have a rough idea of who they are going up against, so there are not wildly uneven fights abound.
Your number of SPs in relevant areas/10000 is the formula used. You will be mailed the list of your points. You are required to honor the rules AND format, or most likely, nobody will want to fight you anyway.
The format for advertising for a fight is as follows: Mr. Bodacious> Hurricane looking for fight in low sec. 1080 points. Prefer 1 on 1 with close-matched opponent in a frig/dest/cruiser/bc/bs/af/interdictor/HAC/Command ship/Black ops/carrier/mothership.
If you'd like a fight that isn't neccessarily 1 on 1: Mr. Bodacious> Maelstrom looking for fight in low sec. 1860 points. Prefer 2/3/4/5/whatever on 1 with opponents in frig/dest/cruiser/bc/bs/af/interdictor/HAC/Command ship/Black ops/carrier/mothership.
Again, just to repeat, the format MUST be followed. Once accepted, combatants on either side of the skirmish ARE NOT REQUIRED to attend. It is HIGHLY recommended that both opponents arrive in the system in a shuttle, with their combat ships parked 1 or 2 jumps out.
As for pod-killing: There IS NO POD KILLING ALLOWED. REPEAT: NONE!!! This is meant to be fighting for the sake of fighting. We WILL NOT tolerate pirating/ransoming of pods or ships. Anyone who does so will be banned from the channel and never allowed to participate again.
This is just an idea I've come up with. Tell me guys what you think... or post your link =)
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Mr Bodacious
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Posted - 2007.10.12 00:46:00 -
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2nd post: Including things I may have forgotten.
Ganking and dishonored (broken rules) are not tolerated, in any form, at all, no matter what. If you lie about your points, you'll be removed.
There are NO PRIZES and you should fully expect to lose your ship by doing this. If it pans out like I hope, I will host a killboard and ranking system.
Do not cry about dying. If you don't want to lose your ship, then don't join. The channel name and password will be given to in the mail I send you with your points value.
Any unauthorized users in the channel will be removed, so don't even try. Again, if you want to gank, GTFO, because this isn't for you.
I'm trying to appeal to the honest people out there who love PVP, and are tired of the endless gangpwns that go down on a daily basis.
If you don't like it, don't flame. Just go away.
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Riebart Norith
Gallente Interstellar Business Federation Tartarus Coalition
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Posted - 2007.10.12 00:57:00 -
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I love this idea. Getting wtfpwned in a 5v1 battleship fight isn't really my idea of fun. If it gains some subscribership, then I' sure as heck love to get in on it.
---------- [ 2006.10.09 03:03:14 ] (combat) The Forum Whiner strikes My Patience perfectly, wrecking for A Spite Filled Post of Doom. |

Mr Bodacious
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Posted - 2007.10.12 01:05:00 -
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NEW! Implants.
YOU MUST STATE THE KINDS OF IMPLANTS YOU ARE USING!! The point value for them still needs to be decided as I somehow completely forgot them.
Also, this will function as a working table of current subscribers. Current list of subscribers: Mr. Bodacious Buzz LiteBeer
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Dred'Pirate Jesus
Amarr Ministry of War
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Posted - 2007.10.12 02:21:00 -
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I thought that the first rule of Fight Club was to *not* talk about Fight Club.. 
Originally by: David Hackworth ò If you find yourself in a fair fight, you didn't plan your mission properly.
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Merciless1
Arcana Imperii Ltd. Chaos Incarnate.
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Posted - 2007.10.12 02:23:00 -
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Edited by: Merciless1 on 12/10/2007 02:24:49
Originally by: Mr Bodacious There are NO PRIZES
Does this mean the winner will not be allowed to loot the wreck, I'm all for some fighting for the sake of fun but I don't see any reason why the winner shouldn't get something out of it.
Originally by: Sausage Commandos A bobbeh titan at the station!, i curse at myself for being in a shuttle, so i head to station, change to ibis, return to find the scumbag had ran...
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Fabrice Enchante
Gallente Active Measures Derek Knows Us
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Posted - 2007.10.12 02:34:00 -
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Originally by: Dred'Pirate Jesus I thought that the first rule of Fight Club was to *not* talk about Fight Club.. 
No Teamspeak or Ventrilio. No one said you can't "chat" about Fight Club. ================<ACTME>======================= Solutions to problems require Active Measures. |

Yohohohi
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Posted - 2007.10.12 03:30:00 -
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My pvp character wont be joining because of this:
'You will mail me, or post in here with a link to, your CURRENT in-eve skill sheet. You MUST include with this link, a description of the ships you can fly and what types of modules you can use.'
1) I don't want that kind of info made public, not many pvpers do.
2)Makes 1v1 fights incredibly boring and riggable if you know what your opponent is bringing and where his skills are.
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Mr Bodacious
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Posted - 2007.10.12 03:39:00 -
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The glory of my system is that you dont have to be specific with your terms. You only need to generalize. Sure, it takes the randomness out of pvp a bit, albeit only a little bit. It is neccessary to maintain our no-gank attitude.
We aren't trying to appeal to you if you are looking for a frigate-on-battleship battle in your favor. (unless someone else is )
The idea here is that you select your fights, which makes fights a little better. Don't tell me there won't be someone who thinks they can take on a HAC in 2 AFs or something fun. The whole idea behind this is for fun. No ganking involved, only fights where both opponents stand a chance to win. No fightin dirty is allowed here. Only honest-to-truth pvp action. ------------------ Also, looting the wrecks was something I had considered, I only failed to mention it... I disallow expensive fits so as to try and dissuade gankers. In addition to that, I firmly believe that pvp combat should not be about the size of the players wallet, but his skills at fitting and piloting.
Feel free to ask more questions.
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Yohohohi
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Posted - 2007.10.12 03:55:00 -
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Heres another couple :) :
1) Why bother with the points system? Are there any serious pvpers out there who use t1 in the age of very cheap t2 gear?
2) What is stopping you from using this information sent to you about everyones skill point allocation to your own/own corps gain? Information is power and i really see no point in you having it.
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Mr Bodacious
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Posted - 2007.10.12 03:59:00 -
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Yeah, I'm going to come hunt you now that I know your weakness. Right. Muffin Factory has, and always will, be honorable to our word. We have been honest for 3 1/2 years.
This is not meant only for serious pvpers who fly vagas with a full set of snake implants.
Most important of all, I think, this is for the little guys who want a good fight but can't find one, because all the "serious pvpers" are far better at pvp than they are.
This does not exclude players such as myself who still use t1 equipment in some areas. It is meant for everyone.
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Admiral Pelleon
Caldari White Shadow Imperium Burning Horizons
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Posted - 2007.10.12 04:19:00 -
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Mail sent look forward to some fun. :) ________ "It's a good day to die!" |

Yohohohi
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Posted - 2007.10.12 04:33:00 -
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Edited by: Yohohohi on 12/10/2007 04:33:51
Originally by: Mr Bodacious Yeah, I'm going to come hunt you now that I know your weakness. Right. Muffin Factory has, and always will, be honorable to our word. We have been honest for 3 1/2 years.
MF are a pvp corp right? If this were to take off, and you had maybe 50% of lowsec pvpers involved it would only be a matter of time before your corp became involved in a fight with a corp with fight club members. You state that MF/you would be too honorable to take advantage of this information yet i see no proof of this (first eve search of muffin factory results in 'muffin factory do no honor 1v1s')
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Most important of all, I think, this is for the little guys who want a good fight but can't find one, because all the "serious pvpers" are far better at pvp than they are.
A half valid point, but the little guys ARE using t2 these days. The real cost barrier between new pvpers and those with the isk is rigs and implants.
While you have covered implants, you have not covered rigs. If you want this movement to be about the little guy then you really need to include something about rigs pointwise.
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Mr Bodacious
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Posted - 2007.10.12 04:42:00 -
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You're right. Rigs go against my idea of players wallet size determininig the outcome of pvp.
BTW, as a new guy, I will tell you that I do not use full t2. Also, do some research on the guy that didnt honor the 1v1. He's not around anymore. Muffin Factory is a low sec corp. All fights do not need to take place in low sec. Of course, this is about trust. If you don't feel safe giving us your information, dont' do it. Wait it out. I've got 3 people so far. When you find out that this isn't a scam, and we are credible, come back, and maybe we can talk again.
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Bacci Galu
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2007.10.12 05:34:00 -
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Originally by: Mr Bodacious You're right. Rigs go against my idea of players wallet size determininig the outcome of pvp.
BTW, as a new guy, I will tell you that I do not use full t2. Also, do some research on the guy that didnt honor the 1v1. He's not around anymore. Muffin Factory is a low sec corp. All fights do not need to take place in low sec. Of course, this is about trust. If you don't feel safe giving us your information, dont' do it. Wait it out. I've got 3 people so far. When you find out that this isn't a scam, and we are credible, come back, and maybe we can talk again.
This is not a flame, but hypocrasy..
You are using a point system to match people, how is adding a point system to rigs going to outbalance the fight ???
Just add rigs to your point system, give em a high score..
other than that i like this idea but i will not be competeing simply because i dont have a single ship without rigs, they are part of the game, and with cost's falling, there really is no reason not to fit them..
i think u will lose potential combatants unless u add rigs to the equasion..
Also u might want to mark out a combat arena with secure cans (4 courners and a center can, thats warpable, so u warp in to the outside of the ring, on oppisite sides, then warp to the center can)
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Mr Bodacious
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Posted - 2007.10.12 14:00:00 -
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If you really want to use rigs, go ahead, the idea here is to have cheap, fun, and easy pvp. ;)
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Travis050
The Rubber Duckies
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Posted - 2007.10.12 14:11:00 -
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Looks sweet! I'll try to upload my char data today.

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Arvald
Caldari House of Tempers
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Posted - 2007.10.12 14:14:00 -
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so in order to sign up i have to evemail you my charicter sheet correct? --------------------------- ALL HAIL TO THE TECHNOVIKING |

MITSUK0
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Posted - 2007.10.12 14:15:00 -
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Uhm there allready is an EVE fight club kicking around somewhere, unless they all quit...
Just so you know...
They also had a much more fight club theme and ruleset ;)
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Mr Bodacious
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Posted - 2007.10.12 23:52:00 -
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Edited by: Mr Bodacious on 12/10/2007 23:53:30
Originally by: MITSUK0 Uhm there allready is an EVE fight club kicking around somewhere, unless they all quit...
Just so you know...
They also had a much more fight club theme and ruleset ;)
then go to their thread and talk about how this one is more for the everyday person.
Arvald: Download EVE-mon, get a partial API from the eve-online.com website, input it into evemon, export your characters skill list to an XML file (easily done via evemon) and then upload the XML file to in-eve.net. when that is completed, mail me (ingame please) the link to your in-eve skill list and I will assign you a points value, as well as let you in on the channel name and password.
Total members are 4 and 2 pending... Lets keep coming guys =) thanks :)
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