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Dreznengul Caldari Battlestars GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.10.12 05:53:00 - [61] Originally by: SpaceMoose Holy jesus, can people seriously be this naive? Well... it is RISE.
Kousakuin GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.10.12 05:54:00 - [62] Edited by: Kousakuin on 12/10/2007 05:56:13 Originally by: Mortania Originally by: Mimedar You pay rent. Which is utterly pathetic by the way, regardless of which philosophical side you take in this. Your mere presence gets in our way by your willingness to subjugate yourself. Grow up and grow a pair. You pay rent as well. I note that the tax rate in your corp is 15%. I've heard rumors, but it may just be idle speculation, that all Goon members pay 10% to the alliance. Tax, rent, payment, bribe, etc. it's all just semantics. There is in fact a pretty key difference between paying rent and chipping in with your housemates to cover the utility bills Originally by: Mortania Originally by: Muro Deez Besides, do you honestly think that your idols don't do the same thing? Maybe you missed the part about where I explain that you are the worse of the two evils. I don't idolize BoB, they are allies. Ever heard of a fellow named Blacklight?
Kousakuin GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.10.12 05:56:00 - [63] Edited by: Kousakuin on 12/10/2007 05:56:23 edit != post
Alice Cholmondeley I Am Legend	Posted - 2007.10.12 05:57:00 - [64] Originally by: SpaceMoose Well guess who you have to thank for creating the metagame that is making your eve-time hell? That's right, your "allies" Holy jesus, can people seriously be this naive? Oh oh. Goon that thinks he has a clue spotted.
Chest McManbone GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.10.12 06:02:00 - [65] Originally by: Mortania insane words My God. It's a Dissonance Cascade.
Mimedar GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.10.12 06:04:00 - [66] Originally by: Alice Cholmondeley Oh oh. Goon that thinks he has a clue spotted. Your flame/troll warrior name is now Snowball. Because it'll be a cold day in hell when you succeed in baiting a non-idiot. (I'm an idiot by the way)
Swamp Ziro GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.10.12 06:10:00 - [67] Originally by: Chest McManbone Originally by: Mortania insane words My God. It's a Dissonance Cascade. It's like a server desync, only alliance-wide and lasting for months :cripes:
LoKesh Amarr InQuest Ascension R i s e	Posted - 2007.10.12 06:23:00 - [68] Apparently talking to the Goon collective brain about RISE is like explaing an sunrise to a blind man. RISE enjoys a good fight. RISE prefers to fight with ships and modules. RISE enjoys making allies and keeping our word. RISE works on rationale thought and planning. Goons enjoying winning. Goon prefers to manipulate game mechanics. Goon enjoys spamming the forums and twisting truths. Goon internal releases contain many-many words that this forum won't let me print. We enjoy the battle, we respect our allies and we respect ourselves. If our members didn't trust their leadership, didn't want to fight side by side with BoB or didn't want to shoot goon - then they wouldn't be RISE. These facts and our ability to have repelled you for months seems to have drawn some unhealthy obsession by the Goon camp for RISE. So... NUTZ! RISE - Minister of Foreign Affairs
Misfitsa Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.10.12 06:27:00 - [69] Originally by: LoKesh Goon internal releases contain many-many words that this forum won't let me print. We get to say P00P
Martin VanBuren GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.10.12 06:30:00 - [70] Edited by: Martin VanBuren on 12/10/2007 06:30:27 Originally by: Chest McManbone Originally by: Mortania insane words My God. It's a Dissonance Cascade. Better than a resonance cascade
SpaceMoose GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.10.12 06:30:00 - [71] Originally by: LoKesh Apparently talking to the Goon collective brain about RISE is like explaing an sunrise to a blind man. RISE enjoys a good fight. RISE prefers to fight with ships and modules. RISE enjoys making allies and keeping our word. RISE works on rationale thought and planning. Goons enjoying winning. Goon prefers to manipulate game mechanics. Goon enjoys spamming the forums and twisting truths. Goon internal releases contain many-many words that this forum won't let me print. We enjoy the battle, we respect our allies and we respect ourselves. If our members didn't trust their leadership, didn't want to fight side by side with BoB or didn't want to shoot goon - then they wouldn't be RISE. These facts and our ability to have repelled you for months seems to have drawn some unhealthy obsession by the Goon camp for RISE. So... NUTZ! If all you want is a fight then why the hell has your entire alliance remained logged off or docked?
The Mittani GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.10.12 06:33:00 - [72] Originally by: LoKesh Apparently talking to the Goon collective brain about RISE is like explaing an sunrise to a blind man. RISE enjoys a good fight. RISE prefers to fight with ships and modules. RISE enjoys making allies and keeping our word. RISE works on rationale thought and planning. Goons enjoying winning. Goon prefers to manipulate game mechanics. Goon enjoys spamming the forums and twisting truths. Goon internal releases contain many-many words that this forum won't let me print. We enjoy the battle, we respect our allies and we respect ourselves. If our members didn't trust their leadership, didn't want to fight side by side with BoB or didn't want to shoot goon - then they wouldn't be RISE. These facts and our ability to have repelled you for months seems to have drawn some unhealthy obsession by the Goon camp for RISE. So... NUTZ! The brave facade you try to put up delights me; it means we can drag out the agonies of your failing alliance for some time yet. Don't flee to empire yet darling, I've only just begun to play.
Nymysys GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.10.12 06:36:00 - [73] Edited by: Nymysys on 12/10/2007 06:37:06 Originally by: Alice Cholmondeley How's prepubescent live treating you Mittani, good to have you whine on the foreground once more. Damn, BoB, have your alts attend some English classes. Your pathetic attempts at smack are made even more inconsequential when they are riddled with grammar and word usage errors.
Mimedar GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.10.12 06:36:00 - [74] Originally by: LoKesh Apparently talking to the Goon collective brain about RISE is like explaing an sunrise to a blind man. Explaing? LoKesh... have you been drinking? :colbert: One of these days RISE foreign minister, one of these days... Originally by: LoKesh RISE enjoys a good fight. RISE prefers to fight with ships and modules. RISE enjoys making allies and keeping our word. RISE works on rationale thought and planning. Well if you love a good fight, why have you been blueballing Pandemic Legion for so long? And what ships/modules? What allies? Allies show up and you know, fight with you. Also, I believe you meant rational, not rationale, they're different words. I'm sorry if you are not a native english speaker for pointing that and explaing out. My <your language> is probably worse than your english. Originally by: LoKesh Goons enjoying winning. Goon prefers to manipulate game mechanics. Goon enjoys spamming the forums and twisting truths. Goon internal releases contain many-many words that this forum won't let me print. I'd hate to accuse one of your members of not replying to my points w/o replying to yours, but I honestly fail to see what relevance this has to this particular thread. Perhaps you could spell this out for me, I am quite quite stupid. Originally by: LoKesh So... NUTZ! Ahh, the battle of the bulge. This will be poignant if BoB shows up to defend your space, or hillarious if they don't. I'm now guessing you are american and either drunk or a fellow idiot.
Enthes goldhart Gallente Resurrection R i s e	Posted - 2007.10.12 06:45:00 - [75] i dont read my forums any more i just read COAD evrything seams to get here these days.... have you ever tried to fight with no isk agaist overwelming odds? and to evryone who plays eve... do u really really want goon to win this war?? i used to hear how bob were ebil but tbh goon are just annoying and i would rather have an evil guy controlling the world than an annoying guy
Misfitsa Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.10.12 06:47:00 - [76] Originally by: Enthes goldhart i dont read my forums any more i just read COAD evrything seams to get here these days.... have you ever tried to fight with no isk agaist overwelming odds? and to evryone who plays eve... do u really really want goon to win this war?? i used to hear how bob were ebil but tbh goon are just annoying and i would rather have an evil guy controlling the world than an annoying guy Your tears are so yummy.
Mimedar GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.10.12 06:50:00 - [77] Originally by: Enthes goldhart i dont read my forums any more i just read COAD evrything seams to get here these days.... have you ever tried to fight with no isk agaist overwelming odds? and to evryone who plays eve... do u really really want goon to win this war?? i used to hear how bob were ebil but tbh goon are just annoying and i would rather have an evil guy controlling the world than an annoying guy You don't get it. It's not a fight over who controls all of 0.0, it's those who want to control all of 0.0(BoB, via SirMolle in an article in a respected publication no less) against those who don't want anyone controlling all of 0.0(RSF). Don't project the will of your masters upon your enemies. Feel free to correct me, thus far apart from some poor trolling and posts, no one has. I'm an admitted idiot and new to the game. It should be easy.
Kyguard Fire Mandrill	Posted - 2007.10.12 06:51:00 - [78] ah **** mittani's alive - Latest Video
Montasque GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.10.12 06:52:00 - [79] Originally by: Enthes goldhart i dont read my forums any more i just read COAD evrything seams to get here these days.... have you ever tried to fight with no isk agaist overwelming odds? and to evryone who plays eve... do u really really want goon to win this war?? i used to hear how bob were ebil but tbh goon are just annoying and i would rather have an evil guy controlling the world than an annoying guy People need to understand something; we donÆt want to conquer EvE, we want BoB dead.
Enthes goldhart Gallente Resurrection R i s e	Posted - 2007.10.12 06:55:00 - [80] Originally by: Mimedar Originally by: Enthes goldhart i dont read my forums any more i just read COAD evrything seams to get here these days.... have you ever tried to fight with no isk agaist overwelming odds? and to evryone who plays eve... do u really really want goon to win this war?? i used to hear how bob were ebil but tbh goon are just annoying and i would rather have an evil guy controlling the world than an annoying guy You don't get it. It's not a fight over who controls all of 0.0, it's those who want to control all of 0.0(BoB, via SirMolle in an article in a respected publication no less) against those who don't want anyone controlling all of 0.0(RSF). Don't project the will of your masters upon your enemies. Feel free to correct me, thus far apart from some poor trolling and posts, no one has. I'm an admitted idiot and new to the game. It should be easy. so you are saying as soon as bob is dead your gonna take there space then share it out then when you are board attack all your old allies?
mama guru Gallente Corp 1 Allstars Insurgency	Posted - 2007.10.12 07:05:00 - [81] Edited by: mama guru on 12/10/2007 07:05:20 Originally by: LoKesh Apparently talking to the Goon collective brain about RISE is like explaing an sunrise to a blind man. RISE enjoys a good fight. RISE prefers to fight with ships and modules. RISE enjoys making allies and keeping our word. RISE works on rationale thought and planning. Goons enjoying winning. Goon prefers to manipulate game mechanics. Goon enjoys spamming the forums and twisting truths. Goon internal releases contain many-many words that this forum won't let me print. We enjoy the battle, we respect our allies and we respect ourselves. If our members didn't trust their leadership, didn't want to fight side by side with BoB or didn't want to shoot goon - then they wouldn't be RISE. These facts and our ability to have repelled you for months seems to have drawn some unhealthy obsession by the Goon camp for RISE. So... NUTZ! When did you loose it LoKesh? Was it when bob kicked you out of fountain? was it cuz Celes/Toxin didnt set you blue? Was it because you declared war on MC to help IMP? Hell did u get ****ed when YW in their early days kicked your ass in cloudring with Toxin, maybe you were not in rise by then? Angry that Koth is doing well enough with Morsus Mihi and that you're just a little worthless bob pet? BOB SUCKS AND YOU KNOW IT! stop pretending otherwise. Cant belive i was actually fighting for them in the first place. -YOU ARE NOW READING MY SIGNATURE- EVE is like the "Fisherman's Friend" of MMOs. If it's too hard, you are too weak.
Mimedar GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.10.12 07:06:00 - [82] Originally by: Enthes goldhart so you are saying as soon as bob is dead your gonna take there space then share it out then when you are board attack all your old allies? The common cause, for the coalition, as I understand it, is the elimination of BoB as a space holding and influential power. Not the control of all of 0.0 under a rental agreement to the RSF. When that's accomplished, and it's not exactly a goal that's due to be finished next week, I don't know what will happen. That's a ways off. Stop assuming we'll be as bad as BoB. Apart from being forum warriors, we're not as bad imho. It's too late for RISE now, though, I believe. I'm just a newbie grunt though, so who knows.
Mortania Minmatar Carbide Industries R i s e	Posted - 2007.10.12 07:14:00 - [83] Originally by: Mimedar Originally by: Enthes goldhart so you are saying as soon as bob is dead your gonna take there space then share it out then when you are board attack all your old allies? The common cause, for the coalition, as I understand it, is the elimination of BoB as a space holding and influential power. Not the control of all of 0.0 under a rental agreement to the RSF. When that's accomplished, and it's not exactly a goal that's due to be finished next week, I don't know what will happen. That's a ways off. Stop assuming we'll be as bad as BoB. Apart from being forum warriors, we're not as bad imho. It's too late for RISE now, though, I believe. I'm just a newbie grunt though, so who knows. Stop behaving worse, then. Probably would have made your lives easy if you had come onto the scene and just said, death to bob, and then went about your business. The outcry and determination against both BoB and CCP were near universal then. It's why I don't believe that eliminating BoB is your goal. I don't think it's changed from what it was when the Goon was formed from somethingawful in the first place before BoB was revealed to be in cahoots with a member of CCP's staff. Griefplay. CCP/BoB just makes it easier to recruit. --- Destroying asteroids one at a time, to make the universe safer.
CEO Pyrex DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.10.12 07:14:00 - [84] When Bob is dead and sirmolles account is cancelled i plan to restart ASCN and shatter goons from within Whos with me!!!???..... oh......
Mimedar GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.10.12 07:27:00 - [85] Edited by: Mimedar on 12/10/2007 07:32:23 Edited by: Mimedar on 12/10/2007 07:30:43 Originally by: Mortania Stop behaving worse, then. Probably would have made your lives easy if you had come onto the scene and just said, death to bob, and then went about your business. The outcry and determination against both BoB and CCP were near universal then. It's why I don't believe that eliminating BoB is your goal. I don't think it's changed from what it was when the Goon was formed from somethingawful in the first place before BoB was revealed to be in cahoots with a member of CCP's staff. Griefplay. CCP/BoB just makes it easier to recruit. I'm sorry, I'm just a rank and file goon amongst the many goons who have joined this game and haven't posted on eve-o(there are a ton of us, yet you tar us with the brush of a few)... Have I misbehaved here? If I have, I offer the most sincere of appologies. I've only just posted today, granted I've helped to reinforce or destroy some RISE poses and laughed a bit about things said in local, but I've only been in the game 2 months. How could I have offended you? Yet I believe, you probably already hate me. This makes me sad. :smith: My understanding is simply different than yours. Granted, part of this is backed up by fact. I've never seen Remedial quoted in a publication like Rutgers or the Times saying he wanted to control all of 0.0, and as someone with just under 4m SP I have to take the side that won't pod me if I decide to fly a vigil as opposed to a BS I can't afford to lose on an op. I have unfortunately seen Remedial's member though. He's not the current leader of my corp/alliance though. If I were you, I'd judge an alliance by it's leadership before I judged it by it's ability to censor idiots. Is it really the opinion of pets that it's a choice between being slave to the GBC or slave to the RSF ideologically? That's positively insane. Edit: I mean, I'm an idiot, I'm talking to you in what I think is a pretty civil tone. I'm not being nor will I be censored.
Devilish Ledoux Caldari Naughty People The Gurlstas Associates	Posted - 2007.10.12 07:39:00 - [86] Originally by: Mimedar I'm talking to you in what I think is a pretty civil tone. Spy detected! Who are you working for, Mimedar, if that is your real name? _ Originally by: CCP Prism X This topic is so full of fail >.<
Mortania Minmatar Carbide Industries R i s e	Posted - 2007.10.12 07:40:00 - [87] Originally by: Mimedar I'm sorry, I'm just a rank and file goon amongst the many goons who have joined this game and haven't posted on eve-o(there are a ton of us, yet you tar us with the brush of a few)... You're mistaking "you" for "You", when it's meant to be "Y'all". As for stereotyping, it's what humans do. Goons paint all GBC with the same brush, all GBC say Goons are the same, etc. In fact, everyone plays this game the way they do for their own reasons. I'm still having fun playing, or I wouldn't be here. --- Destroying asteroids one at a time, to make the universe safer.
Lee Bian Amarryan Nations GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.10.12 07:42:00 - [88] Originally by: Devilish Ledoux Spy detected! Who are you working for, Mimedar, if that is your real name? i hope thats not his real name that would be ridiculous
Mimedar GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.10.12 07:50:00 - [89] Originally by: Mortania You're mistaking "you" for "You", when it's meant to be "Y'all". As for stereotyping, it's what humans do. Goons paint all GBC with the same brush, all GBC say Goons are the same, etc. In fact, everyone plays this game the way they do for their own reasons. I'm still having fun playing, or I wouldn't be here. Good on having fun playing. I'm sorry if I detect contradiction in this post which confuses my idiot mind, and thus can't reply. I'll leave that to the fine posters in this forum, who are like, totally awesome, and stuff. Lulz. Originally by: Lee Bian i hope thats not his real name that would be ridiculous It is my real name, I'm Mimedar Jones, and my parents hated me. If only someone had given my mom a condom or a baby book I'd be spared from this hellish existance. And by "baby book" I mean "a modest proposal"
Gregorri Gallente Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.10.12 07:53:00 - [90] One of the thing i am finding completely hysterical, is that everything the RISE pilots in this thread are accusing the goonies of, (meta-gaming,cheating,posible reseting of standings if the win the war,) is EXACTLY EVERYTHING BOB has already done. Let us even put aside the T20 incident for a moment. BOB used a lot of spies during the assault on ASCN. TS/Forums ect. and posted it all over COAD. prior to the ASCN invasion, BOB had RESET all standings to shoot all allies and even destroyed a FIX outpost egg. and on top of all of that, they made it a point to destroy any entity that had tried to set up capital shipyards so they could dominate the capital game. The incredible amount of delusion spewing from the RISE people in this threads completely stuns me. to the rise pilots, im truely sorry.

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