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StoeriXoR
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Posted - 2007.10.15 20:10:00 -
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Ok i was wondering about something new in EVE. The SP sheduler. The ability to Delete Skills and the remaining SP using in other skills you want to train. Ofc We all begon like noobs and trained alot skills we not or barely use. Its just an idea i have. Was just wondering how everybody thinks about it.
Regards StoeriXoR
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Dretzle Omega
Caldari Psychedelic Party Stellar Economy Experts
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Posted - 2007.10.15 20:53:00 -
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No. Just no.
This would totally defeat the entire idea of attributes. If this ever happened, the new best advice would be something like: Choose which race gives you the highest in two attributes (probably Intelligence and Memory for the Learning skills). Increase those attributes even higher. Train only those attributes in the Learning Skills. Get the +5 implants of only those two attributes. Train whatever skill would train fastest (therefore get the most SP) using those two attributes as primary and secondary. Then Delete that skill and put the SP where you actually want to use it. Rinse. Repeat. ------------------- 4 8 15 16 23 42 108 |
Laura Steel
The Chaotic Order Fallout Project
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Posted - 2007.10.15 21:01:00 -
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What if you could only put the skillpoints back into whatever attribute branch that the original points came from?
I.E: 5 skillpoint "buckets", after the attributes. If you delete a skill the points will go into a bucket, based on whatever its primary attribute was, and you can only use those points on skills with that attribute as its primary.
I personally believe its a waste of effort and time to add it to the game, as unused skills from newbie days are probably low ranked and low leveled. ----
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Dretzle Omega
Caldari Psychedelic Party Stellar Economy Experts
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Posted - 2007.10.15 21:22:00 -
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Originally by: Laura Steel What if you could only put the skillpoints back into whatever attribute branch that the original points came from?
This gets closer to working, but then you still have the problem of someone training a skill. They use it for a time, then decide they don't want to use it and want to put it toward something else. I can then take the time I trained for, I don't know, a Titan, and instead decide my Titan days are over (for whatever reason) and instead I want to be able to fly every ship up to battleship for every race. (I don't know if the Titan skills match that or whatever, I just want to use an example so I'm pulling names out of my butt. :) )
So, instantly, I switch my skills. Woohoo! Then, in a couple months, I join a new corp and decide that I want to fly a Titan again. Lemme see, I don't need these other ship skills. Let me delete them all and switch back to my Titan.
No, part of the strategy behind Eve characters is scheduling your training. Figure out a goal you want to reach for and train skills that improve that goal. If I want to change career paths, I'd have to do just like in real life, and start learning anew. ------------------- 4 8 15 16 23 42 108 |
Bradstone
Nemesis Industries Pure.
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Posted - 2007.10.15 23:03:00 -
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While this may sound a good idea for the first few moments of reading it, alarm bells start ringing soon after. What would stop a new player investing all his starting skill points in learning, maxing them out.
He makes loads of skill points for say 4 months so he his already say 2 months ahead of an average player of his age, then he switches all the skill points from learning into something else say a covert ops ship, so this dude in 4 months would of done the skill training for 8 months (maybe not as much as that but you get my point) Overall it would be a system with so many "cheats" that it would make so many people angry ,especially the older players who started the game with 20,000 skill points.
Also another problem, if youÆre playing eve on the storyline point of view and that of science, how can you download data to your brain only to then delete it and replace it with something of equal size... it would have to take the same amount of time wouldnÆt it? as its new data going into the brain...
Any who, maybe a sort of nice idea but i really donÆt think it will be accepted by the older players.
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Kimberley Loveit
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Posted - 2007.10.16 09:55:00 -
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a skill to get ride of unwanted skills would be handy i think and just forget about the whole SP just getting ride of the unwanted skills would suit me :)
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Gaz'Gaz
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Posted - 2007.10.16 11:42:00 -
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what about possibility to reprocess skill with a lost percentage ?
it would give you sp you could put where you want, so no more "small hybrid turret" in my nice gunnery tree
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Goldis
Caldari Mythos Corp RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.16 13:07:00 -
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So, say, a character that trains for dreadnoughts, would be able to switch between any other races dreads, or, to perfect skills for any lesser ship, just because he has sp to spare? This would instantly lead to characters flying any given ship, at any given time, with perfect skills.
Here is an idea that I think you would like, although I think it makes very little sense. In adition to the skill to train, a Character is able to select a skill to "drain". The skill is then slowly drained of skill points, and the time gained would be calculated based on the characters current base attributes for the given skill, (no implants).
At the same time, the characters skill in training, would earn an additional rate of training, equal to the drained skills time's worth, recalculated for the attributes on the skill he is currently training, again without taking implants into account.
For effect, this would grant you your wish, in a sense. It is not beneficial in any way, as the integrated time conversion equalizes for attributes.
There will be an amount of wastage equal to the attributes gained by learning on the drained skill's attributes, and a certain gain on the one beeing trained; Leaving this be makes role-playing sense; however you can easily penalize it by limiting the max sp gained by the raw amount drained.
This system, while reasonably bullet-proof, would effectively boost the training rate towards specific ends by the characters with skillpoints to spare, therefore "nerfing" the newer ones, which would run out of useless sp sooner. It would also promote rushing for the FOTM skills, leading to wasted sp.
On the bright side, it would grant you the ability to cash in on the learning skills at some point. Overall, I do not like it though. ----
De Gustibus et Coloribus non disputandum est.
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Janus Ovellian
Minmatar Encina Technologies Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2007.10.16 13:20:00 -
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I'd quite like to get rid of anchoring and mining from my skillsheet... I think I could live without being reimbursed for the 1000 skillpoints I'd be throwing away.
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Dretzle Omega
Caldari Psychedelic Party Stellar Economy Experts
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Posted - 2007.10.16 13:41:00 -
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Originally by: Janus Ovellian I'd quite like to get rid of anchoring and mining from my skillsheet... I think I could live without being reimbursed for the 1000 skillpoints I'd be throwing away.
And the reason for this would be.... you could buy a clone that covers 1000 SP less? No, really, the SP is doing you no harm being there. Why throw it away? The only thing I can think of is if you have millions of unwanted SP and you want to buy cheaper clones. ------------------- 4 8 15 16 23 42 108 |
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Lord Perdition
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Posted - 2007.10.16 13:48:00 -
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stupid idea!
If u wanna go to pvp, u will max all your support skills, wich give ya speed, dps, resist etc. If u are back in ratting, u gonna put your SP back to torps lol.
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Gaz'Gaz
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Posted - 2007.10.16 13:55:00 -
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if you can only keep 50% or 75% of the skill you reprocess, there will be no abuse.
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TimMc
Skiddies of Doom
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Posted - 2007.10.16 19:31:00 -
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Originally by: Gaz'Gaz what about possibility to reprocess skill with a lost percentage ?
it would give you sp you could put where you want, so no more "small hybrid turret" in my nice gunnery tree
I would have to say 50%, and let you throw it from any skill to any skill. AFAIK, I don't think you could exploit that.
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Goldis
Caldari Mythos Corp RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.17 05:17:00 -
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o rly? do you think you wouldn't have noticed if everyone in fleet battles and their mom had dampener skills maxed? ----
De Gustibus et Coloribus non disputandum est.
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Jarah Tatarin
Minmatar Vitai Lampada
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Posted - 2007.10.17 19:14:00 -
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Originally by: StoeriXoR Ok i was wondering about something new in EVE. The SP sheduler. The ability to Delete Skills and the remaining SP using in other skills you want to train. Ofc We all begon like noobs and trained alot skills we not or barely use. Its just an idea i have. Was just wondering how everybody thinks about it.
Regards StoeriXoR
I would be happy if CCP let me delete all my Amarr skills, I hate them and I dont care if I get the SP back or not, just give me the choice to delete them!
Originally by: Delta Hammer There's nothing quite so humbling as to find out that other people were smart enough to fix a problem that I couldn't even understand the explanation of.
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