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shinsushi
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Posted - 2007.10.17 00:53:00 -
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How many of you continue to train amarr just hoping that CCP will finally buff them?
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Mira Spellholde
Amarr Griffin Inc. Kinetic Maelstrom Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.17 00:55:00 -
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I do...but then I started as Amarr.
I remember the days when we used to be cool. We're still cool, right? Right guys? ----------------- An apple a day keeps anyone away, depending on how hard you throw it.
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Tortun Nahme
Minmatar Heimatar Services Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.10.17 00:55:00 -
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i trained lasers so i could fit them for drone missions, they are cheap and extremely effective for grinding drone missions
I'm currently involved in medical research, concerning the therapuetic aspects of a swift kick in the rear
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Cygnus Zhada
Amarr UK Corp
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Posted - 2007.10.17 00:59:00 -
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EVERY day, SEVERAL times a day I ask myself " should I ditch Amarr and switch to Minni"... So far I've been able to stay faithful but that's more because I fly covert ops mostly so I don't 'feel' the PVP problems much. That will change a bit once I can use some T2 stuff properly and I'm sure I'll again be looking at Minmatar and see how well they perform.
Long time ago CCP promised changes, they talked about looking at the damage types a nd bit and that some ships would get more midslots.... If we would do more therm instead of EM that would help, adding a 4th midslot with the according PG/CPU to fit a cap injector would help a ton. And ofcourse the completely laughable bonus for the Apoc... but that's a given I think.
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Sharupak
Minmatar Knights Of the Black Sun Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.10.17 00:59:00 -
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My buddie started an amarr character. I havent talked to him to see how it was going. I told him that Amarr was the race that everyone complained about on the message board and not to play them.
On the otherhand, our best pvper is Amarr. In fact, I would put money on him against the best in the game. _______________________________________________ RuntimeError: ChainEvent is blocking by design, but you're block trapped. You have'll have to find some alternative means to do Your Thing, dude. |
Jasese
Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.10.17 22:12:00 -
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Originally by: Sharupak My buddie started an amarr character. I havent talked to him to see how it was going. I told him that Amarr was the race that everyone complained about on the message board and not to play them.
On the otherhand, our best pvper is Amarr. In fact, I would put money on him against the best in the game.
name :O?
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Van'Klomp
KarWal Corporation
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Posted - 2007.10.17 22:17:00 -
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Originally by: shinsushi How many of you continue to train amarr just hoping that CCP will finally buff them?
I train everything but... Gallente are next on my list.
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Sandman 17
Veni Vidi Vici. SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.17 22:30:00 -
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Yep, still training Amarr. We will have our day. Right now they're hating on Caldari so we'll get a boost soon enough.
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Adonis 4174
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Posted - 2007.10.17 22:31:00 -
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I am currently training Amarr frigate. ----- Visible Implants - good for so many occasions |
etgfrogs
Cassandra's Light Dark Matter Coalition
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Posted - 2007.10.17 22:40:00 -
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i actualy use amarr ships/weapons quite often....but then again when the rats are all rouge drones that are weakest vs em and 2nd to thermal.....most people would find it almost blasphamy to see lasers fitted onto a myrmidon
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Myra2007
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Posted - 2007.10.17 23:18:00 -
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Edited by: Myra2007 on 17/10/2007 23:20:17 After nearly two years i just started crosstraining minnies. I had probably trained them anyway even if amarr were "uber" because lots of their ships and designs just appeal to me.
I still work on maxing my amarr skills though. I love these ships how crappy many of them may be. However i am losing faith that ccp will do anything about the amarr situation. But so far i can fly amarr cruiser, recons, hacs and bs. So if the day finally comes... i am prepared.
When that guy - what was his name - made this devblog (the oomph-guy) i was very happy. I knew it would still take months probably but it indicated they care and they work on it.
When rev3 hits and its time for some pew pew i really have to ask myself if use my geddon or the raven of my caldari char who doesn't even have 1/3rd the sp of my amarr char. Mobility will be about the same, tank will be about the same, dmg will be about the same but without cap issues and with arbitrary damage types. Considering the changed t2 torps i'll lose about 5km optimal plus the falloff versus megapulses with scorch.
I think caldari can need it so i don't argue against the buff. New torp raven will be nice imo and maybe i'll fly it here and then. I just wonder how they can implement such drastic changes without hesitation but when it comes to lasers every small change is "Pandoras Box" which may not be opened. Or look at how they fix "little" issues like deimos and ares. Again both ships could very well need it. But same can be said about many, many amarr ships especially in the t1 section.
However i have to give ccp my appreciation for the khanid changes. I don't like the 2nd revision of the damnation (liked the first version with dmg bonus) but its now excellent in its role - however boring said role may be. New sac is sex and i am still working on better missile skills. I like the vengeance very much now too. So if they come up with something so sound and classy for my lazor-ships all will be forgiven.
But frankly it doesn't look like we are getting anything with rev3. So, we can only hope for the next major expansion. Probably another 6months or longer.
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shinsushi
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Posted - 2007.10.17 23:29:00 -
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You know what I should clarify also.
I have been training amarr on one account since october of 2005. The character has about 32 mil sp, almost entirely dedicated to amarr. I can fly every T2 ship and amarrian capitals, and have been working on maxing out gunnery skills (everything is at least lvl 4 now.) Needless to say I am a big fan of amaarian style ships, methos, and LAZORS!...
I was planning to max out everything amarr... but I am seriously considering abandoning the last 2 years of training and starting fresh with minmatar. Its just so disheartening to see CCP do nothing to fix the greater amarr problems, while they release 25 more ships, tones of new skills, a new scanning system, a new map, invention, exploration, rebalance blasters, rebalance artilleries, fix drones, completely change the gang mechanics.
What have amarr gotten in this time? Khanid changes almost entirely done by a fan (Sarmual ♥) and a pulse tracking boost no one in the world was asking for......
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Rawr Cristina
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.10.18 00:04:00 -
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I train Amarr on my other char whilst this one is primarily Caldari. I really don't care for what people think is best or not or FOTMs or anything, if I like it i'll use it...and I like Amarr and Caldari
It just so happens that a lot of forum warriors think Amarr need boosting and that Caldari are horrible at PvP, so it's all good for me it looks like -----
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Acoco Osiris
Gallente Sublime.
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Posted - 2007.10.18 00:07:00 -
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I actually kinda like the idea of flying Amarr. A bit of a changeup from the endless droning + railgunning of my missions Myrm.
Unfortunately reality is saying "train for the Domi so you can do L4s first". ------------------------------ One more soldier off to war... And one Velator in my hangars. |
Sicil Fioet
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.10.18 00:13:00 -
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I've created an Amarr character that will get cross-trained with Minmatar just in case the day never comes.
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MITSUK0
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Posted - 2007.10.18 00:19:00 -
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My first char was Amarr and I often get tempted to resub him. There is just something cool about huge shiny golden passive armor tanked laser ships of doom. I liked the long optimal on pulse in gangs too, just sit there and melt stuff while the gally lads are mwd'ing back n forth.
Mostly fly minmatar now and belive me they are not without there problems and the skillpoint numbers needed are fearsome. They have some stunningly good and fun ships in the cruiser classes though and that is the ship size I enjoy flying the most.
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shinsushi
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Posted - 2007.10.18 14:24:00 -
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only 15 people?
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Transcendant One
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Posted - 2007.10.18 14:26:00 -
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Edited by: Transcendant One on 18/10/2007 14:26:24 I have an Amarr alt and absolutely no complaints about the race. But then he only flies a Geddon.
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Amaron Ghant
Caldari Ascent of Ages Dark Matter Coalition
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Posted - 2007.10.18 14:29:00 -
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Originally by: shinsushi How many of you continue to train amarr just hoping that CCP will finally buff them?
I'm as good as i'm going to get in Amarr.
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Gaven Blands
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Posted - 2007.10.18 14:33:00 -
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Quit whining or I'll train amarr.
Then CCP will have little choice but to nerf them. Like they nerf everything I get trained. At the moment I am training for speedfit, because I am sick of speedfitters and want it nerfing, rather than ask nicely or whine, I'm being proactive.
-- Any views or opinions expressed are only the ones I want to ram down your throat. |
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shinsushi
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Posted - 2007.10.18 14:38:00 -
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Originally by: Gaven Blands Quit whining or I'll train amarr.
Then CCP will have little choice but to nerf them. Like they nerf everything I get trained. At the moment I am training for speedfit, because I am sick of speedfitters and want it nerfing, rather than ask nicely or whine, I'm being proactive.
Thats the problem man. If you train for FotM, especially this late in its dominance, its bound to get nerfed.
I always thought just stick with one path and sooner or later everything will be ok. That was 2 years ago though.
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Mark Lucius
Forbidden Lore
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Posted - 2007.10.18 14:46:00 -
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Started Caldari, because I had no idea what I was doing. I switched to Amarr pretty soon after that and I am still training Amarr. Turns out I still have no idea what I am doing. I like the shiney gold and flashy lights though. ---
Originally by: Malachon Draco
If you eat your veggies, maybe one day you'll grow up and be a real big alt poster like Johnny ReeRee or Alice C.
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Sharupak
Minmatar Knights Of the Black Sun Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.10.18 14:54:00 -
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Originally by: Jasese
Originally by: Sharupak My buddie started an amarr character. I havent talked to him to see how it was going. I told him that Amarr was the race that everyone complained about on the message board and not to play them.
On the otherhand, our best pvper is Amarr. In fact, I would put money on him against the best in the game.
name :O?
My buddie.. Not sure what his ingame amarr character name is..
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Billy Sastard
Amarr Life. Universe. Everything. Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.18 14:57:00 -
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In the beginning I was only amarr, but eventually realized that diversity could be useful. However, the 'coolest' ships that I can fly are all amarr. That being said, I am able to fly amarr/gallente/minmatar frigs (all of them), then the rest is pretty much all amarr: HAC, Recon, Logistics, and in about a week, Command ships. I do enjoy flying amarr, and am holding out in hopes that things will actually change some day. -=^=-
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Arvald
Caldari House of Tempers
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Posted - 2007.10.18 15:00:00 -
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i train and fly amarr because i love the massive tanks they have, or the uber gank they can have (imo) --------------------------- ALL HAIL TO THE TECHNOVIKING |
shinsushi
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Posted - 2007.10.18 15:08:00 -
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Edited by: shinsushi on 18/10/2007 15:08:17
Originally by: Arvald i train and fly amarr because i love the massive tanks they have, or the uber gank they can have (imo)
Don't you mean mediocre gank or mediocre tank?
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Aranbaal
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Posted - 2007.10.18 15:12:00 -
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So what s actually wrong with amarr ships.
Having been a pirate for a long time all i have seen of them so far is that they are generally the best ships in every engagement i have been in. Imense tanks, huge dps, these things are insane.
The Abaddon is the i win of battleships in most engagements so why would they need a buff.
If they gonna buff anything buff mimmi ships. They dont tank as well as other races, they dont do as much dps as other races, they take more skilling to use the ships properly than other races. That beig sia dam a mimmi pilot who has no intention of flying anything else. Mimmi FTW
Caldari = EvE in beginer mode Amarr = EvE in Intermediate mode Gallente = EvE in Intermediate mode Mimmi = EvE in Hard mode
Be real man fly a dusbin with guns taped on the outside, fly mimmi lol :)
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VoYvod
Murder-Death-Kill
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Posted - 2007.10.18 15:15:00 -
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everytime i fly my amarr ships i realize amarr can do everything which makes them the best race in-game / most versatile race and is still good at it all
examples: ships 1. inties rock 2. assault frig rocks (besides retribution) 3. dictor rocks 4. hacs are awesome (can nano or tank / can snipe or close range) 5. curse is awesome - pilgrim is the worst ship (can nano or tank) 6. command ships rock 7. battleships are good at close range , medium range and long range 8. dreadnaught can actually use its close range guns to hit poses 9. logistic ship is best 1 in game
where it lacks speed its got optimal range (still can fit speed modules on)
offensive weapons: drones , missiles , turrets
turrets - close / med / long range a large close range gun that can reach out to 50km+ at optimal range
i really don't see why people don't like amarr - even the cap used by lasers really isnt that bad , the only ship that has a problem with it is the abaddon but it makes up for it with the higher dps and better tank
amarr isnt a pure solo race (but still can) , stop trying to fly amarr like gallante and you will learn to love it
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shinsushi
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Posted - 2007.10.18 15:32:00 -
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Originally by: Aranbaal So what s actually wrong with amarr ships.
Having been a pirate for a long time all i have seen of them so far is that they are generally the best ships in every engagement i have been in. Imense tanks, huge dps, these things are insane.
The Abaddon is the i win of battleships in most engagements so why would they need a buff.
If they gonna buff anything buff mimmi ships. They dont tank as well as other races, they dont do as much dps as other races, they take more skilling to use the ships properly than other races. That beig sia dam a mimmi pilot who has no intention of flying anything else. Mimmi FTW
Caldari = EvE in beginer mode Amarr = EvE in Intermediate mode Gallente = EvE in Intermediate mode Mimmi = EvE in Hard mode
Be real man fly a dusbin with guns taped on the outside, fly mimmi lol :)
Actually the maelstrom has the better tank, and it can gank (around 1000 DPS)at the same time. Your right, the abaddon is a good ship for about 2 minutes (then its cap-dead.)
The tanks amarr ships posses have been proven time and again to be of the same if not worse quality of the other races. The gank is much the same, especially with the lol dmg type EM.
So whats wrong with amarr? The entire laser line of ships are broken. The staple of the amarrian arsenal is useless.
As far as minnie ships not tanking aswell... Speed tank > any other type of tank. You know speed is a tank too right?
Oh and given rcial bonuses (-50% cap amarr, +25% dmg gallente, and -25% RoF minnie) lasers do the least damage, cost the most fitting, use the most cap, have the slowest tracking, have the worst damage types, and are the most effected by tracking disruptors. We pay all this for a range advantage we cannot enforce.
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shinsushi
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Posted - 2007.10.18 16:01:00 -
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Originally by: Sheriff Jones Amarr isn't fine, but Amarr don't complain. Amarr may not be best, but we've got some of the best pilots. Amarr who even consider minmatar, should be biomassed. Amarr is NOT for the people who train it in hope of improvement. Amarr is and will always be, Amarr.
Aha, a cult. When do they serve the Kool-aid? =D
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