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Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2007.10.17 06:21:00 -
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Hello again community, I'm back again and about on time too. It seems I can't go more than six (6) months without doing some sort of financial project. Granted EBANK is a big name that I've attached myself to but in truth the sharp minds there honor me be allowing me in their presence and humor me by listening to this old man talk. Usually about glory day stuff. This project here is one I'm taking allot of personal responsibility for in fact. While I can't say that all of the details are going to be run, or overseen, directly by me this is not unusual as in my past projects ( here and here) I was not solo then either. My partner in this project is Benvie, a brash and bold market newcomer with a gamble he wants to invite you all in on. Gamble? What nonsense is this? Yes, gamble. If you haven't read the original ipo idea you have missed out on a real humdinger of a great idea. This idea has the potential for great reward but don't be fooled: it is wrought with great risk. Unlike most ipo's today that try to convince you that they are reliable, stable, and will offer you a piddly amount of interest for the honor of investing in them this is a real gambit aimed directly into the bleeding heart of the market. What the hell are you talking about? Well, in blunt, the idea is to increase the reach of the decision making that Benvie is going to be integral to making. As in my past exploits, the additional funding is not to enable the activity but to propel it into greater realms of success. Success that Benvie & I are quite eager to attain and we are not to proud to share. Truly told, not to proud to come here and humbly ask, "Come on a wild ride with us." Details, man, give me details! Well if you followed the link above you have had a chance to read the details of the ipo in generic terms. However I will specify a few specifics that may, or may not, increase the attractiveness of this venture to you. Let me say upfront that at no point will Benvie actually be handling any funds involved. Sadly I feel that this may be offensive to him this community has little in the way of "loose trust" to give unknown, or unblooded, newcomers. This being the case I will be handling 100% of all isk transactions of every kind. This is to include an alt character within the corporation to handle dividend payments via the in game share mechanisms. I will also be, personally, performing tasks (as directed to by Benvie) specifically related to the purchasing and sales of the projects targeted items. Again, this has all been well docmunated previously. This brings us, of course, to my favorite part!!! (And I'm going to simply copy and paste my upcoming section to as it is soooooo damn good!) Who am I? I'm not some well renowned PVP'er/ Pirate/ Role player blah, blah, blah. I'm just well known for speaking my mind, and the truth as I know it, without any regard for anyone feelings, respect, or even my own survival. In that regard I'm just as bad as most of the worst pirates in the game. I don't give a rat's ass about the community's opinion of me. I do what I do because it is what I want to do regardless of (un)popular opinions or any trends or fads. The prime thing that I bring to any situation I'm involved in is: Honesty. Business acumen, Eve awareness, even some level of diplomacy (which many doubt I have), are key fundamentals to any successful project. Yet I've believe, and have always stated, that character is the most important trait, to the exclusion of all others. to consider with any offering out there. Character that you can bank on... that I have in limitless quantity. [Character Maximum Reached - Continued Here] |
Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2007.10.17 06:23:00 -
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Why should I trust you?
You shouldn't.
If you feel that there is no reason for you to do so, don't. I am at peace with the fact that you choose not to entrust me with your funds. To be even more blunt, if you feel you have trust questions that are unanswered please pass this chance by. Pass This opportunity, pass this post, pass me by entirely. I'd rather not have the headaches as it quickly becomes difficult to distinguish between honest questions and flame baiting/mild trolling. I've got enough marks, you know what kind, on my record that I'm just going to ignore any trust issue questions and potential trolls/flames, period.
You may feel free to do some research if you like and come to your own conclusions. But I'm not going to kiss your arse anymore than I think you'll kiss mine.
The Full Monty
There are 30K shares available in the corporation "Revelations Direct". Benvie hopes those shares will sell for 500,000 each bringing the ipo, in total, to 15B in funds. I am currently in sole ownership of all 30K shares. I will accept posted reservation amounts here in this thread and accept payments via "Shar Tegral" (Accept no substitutes!) at this time. However Benvie & I both agree that there is a pass/fail point that needs to be reached. Until that point is reached, a point that will be clearly posted, all funds will simply be held in my wallet. If the point is reached and the fund fails to muster, all funds will be returned.
Pass Amount: 7.5 Billion
Fail Date: 20-Oct-2007, DT
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Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2007.10.17 06:24:00 -
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Reserved |
Treelox
Amarr
Frontier Technologies
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Posted - 2007.10.17 06:34:00 -
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350 shares isk to be sent nowish.
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Shadarle
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Posted - 2007.10.17 06:51:00 -
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Edited by: Shadarle on 17/10/2007 06:51:46
So, is there a max per person? I really am quite tired right now and don't believe I saw it, but it could be there.
Assuming there is no max, I would like to reserve 6000 shares (3 bill) worth. Mostly because I love Shar's posts, even when I don't agree with him completely. Very smart to have decided to work with him Benvie. If there is a max which is below 3 billion isk then I'll take the max.
Though I think you should post in this thread what % of profits will go to investors and what will be kept for management. I think it's listed in the other thread, but that part should be here imo.
I can't log in right now to send the 3 bill isk so I will do it tomorrow asap.
I am quite sure this will have no problem reaching 7.5 bill (it's almost half way there already) but if it should have a problem I will fill in the needed isk. I was looking for a fun IPO to invest in and this seems like it. I decided to let others join in the fun as well, instead of just buying the whole thing out. I think Benvie will gain more out of it this way as he will impress more people if he does well.
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Dr Slurm
General Commodities
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Posted - 2007.10.17 06:59:00 -
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I'll take 200 shares, please.
Isk Sent.
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Benvie
Benvie Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.10.17 07:02:00 -
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There is no maximum shares per person.
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Omber Zombie
Gallente
Frontier Technologies
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Posted - 2007.10.17 07:16:00 -
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I'll take 1,000 shares and will send isk when I am ingame later this week (if that is ok with you)
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Potsnack
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Posted - 2007.10.17 07:25:00 -
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Oh behalf of a third party I'll take 1000 shares please.
Isk will be sent by me when I get home from work this evening.
Cheers
Pot
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Jerppu
Minmatar
Brotherhood of Polar Equation
Mordus Angels
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Posted - 2007.10.17 07:34:00 -
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I'll take 300 shares. Isk will be sent later today.
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Kazuo Ishiguro
House of Marbles
Zzz
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Posted - 2007.10.17 09:09:00 -
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500 shares please. Isk sent.
My research services
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Minerva Vulcan
Caldari
The Nexus Foundation
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Posted - 2007.10.17 10:50:00 -
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Ah what the hell, put me in for 600 shares.
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Tarash Awin
Minmatar
Sackville
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Posted - 2007.10.17 10:55:00 -
[13]
1000 shares please, money sent.
Tarash Awin - Sackville [SACKE]
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Votee
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Posted - 2007.10.17 11:44:00 -
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I would like to take 4000 shares
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Kaisho Stormrider
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Posted - 2007.10.17 11:50:00 -
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I'd like to buy a measly 40 shares  . Txfer will happen right after DT today.
Thanks
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Taryn Ceridwen
Un4seen Development
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Posted - 2007.10.17 12:04:00 -
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100 shares for me please. Isk will be transferred after dt.
Many thanks
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Countess Xiao
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Posted - 2007.10.17 12:30:00 -
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100 shares please.
ISK sent.
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King Boris
Solitude Board of Tourism
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Posted - 2007.10.17 12:41:00 -
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I'll take 500 shares. ISK sent.
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Cabernetter
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Posted - 2007.10.17 12:42:00 -
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250 Shares please. ISK to be sent in approx 8 hours (currently at work).
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Rhiraven
Gallente
The Scope
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Posted - 2007.10.17 12:49:00 -
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I still think this isn't a great idea. It's starting a little late. But if Shar didn't have some inside information, I don't think he'd be so gung-ho about it, and I value his opinion.
I'll go in for 100 shares. Isk sent!
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Dohkar
Amarr
Statler and Waldorf LLC
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Posted - 2007.10.17 13:41:00 -
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Edited by: Dohkar on 17/10/2007 13:41:47
Edited by: Dohkar on 17/10/2007 13:41:28
I'd like 600. Money arriving shortly.
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Martosh Toma
Gallente
Fraction Investment
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Posted - 2007.10.17 13:47:00 -
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I will take a 1000
isk sent
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Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2007.10.17 14:07:00 -
[23]
 Originally by: Rhiraven
I still think this isn't a great idea. It's starting a little late.
The timeliness is one of the major concerns at the moment which may explain why I decided to give this project it's "rebirth" so to speak. Originally by: Rhiraven
But if Shar didn't have some inside information, I don't think he'd be so gung-ho about it, and I value his opinion.
Nope, no inside info here. I don't work in those circles nor have I ever wanted to be there. Not that I'm against having an edge but I much prefer beating the stuffing out of people on an even battlefield. Originally by: Shadarle
So, is there a max per person? I really am quite tired right now and don't believe I saw it, but it could be there.
My previous projects tried spreading the opportunity around a bit. Hubris of a sort actually... the desire to connect, and thus touch, as many people as possible at one time. There was also the ideological drive behind that as well. I wanted to try to keep the isk I worked with as clean as possible and working with shares eliminates that kind of control. (Even though with the use of alts my previous efforts were probably just as futile.) I'm pleased, more like shocked, with the response though mind you. There's a few dogs in this project that I'm surprised has not barked yet. Oh well, I probably borrowed enough trouble just by saying that. 
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Leya Marcsson
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Posted - 2007.10.17 14:36:00 -
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Edited by: Leya Marcsson on 17/10/2007 14:44:44
Do you buy back the shares after the goal of this IPO is reached?
edit: Ah, I see: "Upon liquidation of all assets the corporation will distribute the ISK and cease to function."
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Jocca Quinn
Matari BackBone
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Posted - 2007.10.17 14:43:00 -
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I'll have in this I think
500 shares please.
Isk sent.
Good luck to us all. 
JQ
none of us are free
as long as one of us is chained
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Bringing Sexyback
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Posted - 2007.10.17 14:44:00 -
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I would love to take a measly 38 shares. Cash fundage problems atm :)
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Dealema
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Posted - 2007.10.17 14:48:00 -
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i would like 100 shares. ISK being sent presently.
Good luck to us all
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Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2007.10.17 14:56:00 -
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Originally by: Leya Marcsson
Do you buy back the shares after the goal of this IPO is reached?
This is one of the areas that hasn't been explored yet, by the community, but share buy back is, imho, the only way to properly ensure maximum ROI/shared risk for investors. To explain: This is very much a speculative hedge type of fund. Once the go point is reached (and it has in reservations so far) the fund will initiate phase one. Once that is complete, it will go dormant. The length of time is really unspecified and can only be guessed on. Then, once the new patch hits it'll reactivate and try to profit. A monthly dividend under these circumstances would be grossly misleading. Not to mention artificially supported. (Not that any of you might care truth be told.) So reporting of project asset values is going to be key to determining a fair "current" share price. And what is the point of determining a fair share price if we are not willing to back it up by setting that as the standard for which we'll, Benvie & I, buy back the shares. I hope that suitably answers your question. Have more just ask. I've got no problem throwing tons of text at them.
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Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2007.10.17 15:02:00 -
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And please, please, please make sure you understand what you are investing in.
Allot of you I know, or know me, fairly well so the warning is not needed. But I seriously don't need investors who are not clear on what they are getting into. I'm not nice, I'm anti-warm & fuzzy. So, please, please, please understand what you are getting into as you run the risk of getting your head bit off if you don't.
Not that I'm all that short-tempered but my precocious level of text-based hostility is legendary. Be smart, don't be-prove the legends.
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Sir Artus
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Posted - 2007.10.17 15:39:00 -
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I would like to take 500 shares pls.
Isk will be sent to you directly after this post.
Thanks
Sir Artus
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Akilah
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.10.17 16:45:00 -
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I'll take 2000 shares, please.
ISK Sent.
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FastLearner
Fury Holdings
Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2007.10.17 16:51:00 -
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Edited by: FastLearner on 17/10/2007 16:56:36
I'll take 6000 shares.
Sending ISK in next few minutes when I log in.
EDIT: ISK sent.
I'm assuming that profit for Benjie is same as in his initial proposal - i.e. 25% of all profits over 5% per month.
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Benvie
Benvie Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.10.17 17:19:00 -
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Edited by: Benvie on 17/10/2007 17:19:50
I don't know if a share buy back is feasible given the nature of the fund. Remember, here's how it works.
1.) Shares are sold
2.) I invest ISK in speculative items
3.) Sometime between the expansion and 2 months after it's release I sell everything off
4.) All ISK is dividended out and operation ceases
It would be unwise of me to leave any ISK uninvested and as this is a relatively short term venture I don't see much value in offering a buy back. As for liability of asset devaluation, as I said in the prospectus I'll cover up to a 10% loss in value. In the highly unlikely event that the investment depreciates more than 10%, well that's just a shareholder risk. I called this venture risky for a reason. This is not a guaranteed return IPO. High risk, high return, short term.
Also keep in mind I use the term "high risk" relatively here. It's high risk compared to the other IPOs which offer a guaranteed return rate. I don't seriously think that this investment will actually lose money. But it isn't a guaranteed thing.
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Leya Marcsson
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Posted - 2007.10.17 18:30:00 -
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And how get I rid of those shares cluttering my share window? ;)
If you payout all isk as divident - its something like a buyback at the current share value.
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Montaire
Genbuku.
Daisho Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.10.17 18:38:00 -
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Oooh Tempting. Looks like a nice little IPO gents. Public or Private shareholders list ?
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Shadow Manufacturer
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Posted - 2007.10.17 18:39:00 -
[36]
Maybe I'm missing something, but what exactly is the benefit to those who might invest?
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Fitz VonHeise
The New Order.
United Connection's
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Posted - 2007.10.17 18:43:00 -
[37]
reserve 600 shares for me to be bought by this Saturday.
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Adonis 4174
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Posted - 2007.10.17 18:55:00 -
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*blinks*
This is the kind of adrenalein-junkie investment I always expected to see in Eve. I'm sending isk for 400 shares now.
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Dealema
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Posted - 2007.10.17 19:06:00 -
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I sent ISK for 100 shares a few hours ago, and a mail asking for some confirmation(as well as a post in this forum) and i am still waiting on a reply and my shares,
dont wana be pushy, but....
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Shadarle
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Posted - 2007.10.17 19:10:00 -
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I'm finally awake and my money has now been sent.
It seems like this is pretty close to sold out, can we get any numbers on that?
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Autonomous Monster
Gallente
Researches of Deep Space
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Posted - 2007.10.17 19:17:00 -
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I count 29778 shares bought/reserved.
And on that note, I'd like the honour of becoming the smallest investor here, for a puny 30 shares. ISK to be sent... now.
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Minerva Vulcan
Caldari
The Nexus Foundation
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Posted - 2007.10.17 19:18:00 -
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Originally by: Dealema
I sent ISK for 100 shares a few hours ago, and a mail asking for some confirmation(as well as a post in this forum) and i am still waiting on a reply and my shares,
dont wana be pushy, but....
People have lives outside of EVE. Being the middle of the afternoon here right now, it's perfectly reasonable to have to wait a little bit as there's a lot of people are at work/school/are bums who don't believe in getting up before the ***** of 4 PM.
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Carreira
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Posted - 2007.10.17 19:20:00 -
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hehe yeah i know=) but he is online and he has posted in the forums since then.
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Shadarle
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Posted - 2007.10.17 19:40:00 -
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Originally by: Carreira
hehe yeah i know=) but he is online and he has posted in the forums since then.
I can't speak for Shar, but I often sit in game for hours totally afk. Mostly because I just will check in for a minute or two as I have time to do little things. But considering I'm sure he got bombarded with 20-100 mails in the past 12 hours I wouldn't expect a very quick response. I'd hope within 24-48 hours he'd have it all sorted out though.
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Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2007.10.17 19:42:00 -
[45]
Originally by: Carreira
hehe yeah i know=) but he is online and he has not posted in the forums since then.
Cheeky bugger! I'm awake and getting on the count now.
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Potsnack
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Posted - 2007.10.17 20:23:00 -
[46]
Hi Shar.
I have another 3rd party investor who would like 1000 shares please if they are still available (I've explained the risks). If so, please reserve another 1000 for me and I'll send the isk within 12 hours. Thanks.
Cheers
Pot
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Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2007.10.17 20:41:00 -
[47]
Two things, shareholder list is private. It was specified so it will remain at status quo, private. I don't see any add investor value from disclosure nor do I seek the thrill of repeatedly updating the public list if, or when, it should change.
Here is the list, in time order, of confirmed isk transactions for shares:
Treelox175,000,000.00
Dr Slurm100,000,000.00
Kazuo Ishiguro250,000,000.00
Tarash Awin500,000,000.00
Kaisho Stormrider20,000,000.00
Countess Xiao50,000,000.00
Taryn Ceridwen50,000,000.00
King Boris250,000,000.00
Rhiraven50,000,000.00
Jerppu150,000,000.00
Dohkar300,000,000.00
Martosh Toma500,000,000.00
Unnamed Investor #1250,000,000.00
Unnamed Investor #2500,000,000.00
Jocca Quinn250,000,000.00
Bringing Sexyback19,000,000.00
Dealema50,000,000.00
Sir Artus250,000,000.00
Akilah1,000,000,000.00
Cabernetter125,000,000.00
FastLearner3,000,000,000.00
Potsnack500,000,000.00
Adonis 4174200,000,000.00
Unnamed Investor #3250,000,000.00
Shadarle3,000,000,000.00
Autonomous Monster15,000,000.00
Unnamed Investor #462,500,000.00
Votee2,000,000,000.00
Posted reservations still pending:
Omber Zombie500,000,000.00
Dealema50,000,000.00
Minerva Vulcan300,000,000.00
Fitz VonHeise300,000,000.00
By my count this makes the issuance over sold by 33 shares. There are two ways to address this over issuance. I can release 33 shares from my own investment here (not a major hurdle at all) or I can hold a "rump board" shareholder's vote right now. I think I'll give it a whirl. Vote to be posted in a seperate thread.
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Dealema
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Posted - 2007.10.17 21:10:00 -
[48]
Originally by: Shar Tegral
Two things, shareholder list is private. It was specified so it will remain at status quo, private. I don't see any add investor value from disclosure nor do I seek the thrill of repeatedly updating the public list if, or when, it should change.
Here is the list, in time order, of confirmed isk transactions for shares:
Treelox175,000,000.00
Dr Slurm100,000,000.00
Kazuo Ishiguro250,000,000.00
Tarash Awin500,000,000.00
Kaisho Stormrider20,000,000.00
Countess Xiao50,000,000.00
Taryn Ceridwen50,000,000.00
King Boris250,000,000.00
Rhiraven50,000,000.00
Jerppu150,000,000.00
Dohkar300,000,000.00
Martosh Toma500,000,000.00
Unnamed Investor #1250,000,000.00
Unnamed Investor #2500,000,000.00
Jocca Quinn250,000,000.00
Bringing Sexyback19,000,000.00
Dealema50,000,000.00
Sir Artus250,000,000.00
Akilah1,000,000,000.00
Cabernetter125,000,000.00
FastLearner3,000,000,000.00
Potsnack500,000,000.00
Adonis 4174200,000,000.00
Unnamed Investor #3250,000,000.00
Shadarle3,000,000,000.00
Autonomous Monster15,000,000.00
Unnamed Investor #462,500,000.00
Votee2,000,000,000.00
Posted reservations still pending:
Omber Zombie500,000,000.00
Dealema50,000,000.00
Minerva Vulcan300,000,000.00
Fitz VonHeise300,000,000.00
By my count this makes the issuance over sold by 33 shares. There are two ways to address this over issuance. I can release 33 shares from my own investment here (not a major hurdle at all) or I can hold a "rump board" shareholder's vote right now. I think I'll give it a whirl. Vote to be posted in a seperate thread.
Maybe i've misunderstood something(its been a long day), but i only put in a bid for 100shares(50mil ISK) so why do I apear in both lists? |
Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2007.10.17 21:21:00 -
[49]
Small error... I like you two much it seems.
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Miss Fiona
Gallente
Nexus Trading guild
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Posted - 2007.10.17 21:38:00 -
[50]
THIS IS A SCAM
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2007.10.17 21:47:00 -
[51]
Just a few small questions, of purely TECHNICAL/PROCEDURE matter... probably already answered partially in the other (initial) thread, but you never know what changed since then.
You say you purchased 2k shares at 75% IPO (so 1 bil worth of shares for 750 mil ISK), and I suppose Benvie will do something similar.
Is that the ONLY "salary" you and/or Benvie will be collecting ?
Or are there other "cuts" off the top (or bottom) after the IPO liquidates all assets several weeks/months post-patch ?
Also, how will you be distributing all the ISK obtained in the liquidation if not all shares are sold ?
And how many actual shares will exist, exactly as many as sold, or double (to prevent takeovers) ?
Will you be injecting extra ISK from other sources, paying dividends until leftover funds are equal to extra injected, then get injected funds back ? Or rather distribute manually *all* shares leftover in corp wallet to all actual shareholders, according to shares sold so far, and having a single one-time-lump-sum dividend payment ?
Personally, it sounds pretty fair, but I'd like to know... I have some leftover liquid ISK from my own speculations, and I would probably want to get around 1k shares if that's the only (or main) salary/benefit you are granting to yourselves as administrators of this IPO... but I'll wait for that until after your feedback 
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Rhiraven
Gallente
The Scope
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Posted - 2007.10.17 21:49:00 -
[52]
Originally by: Miss Fiona
THIS IS A SCAM
OH SHI-
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Hawkcrest
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Posted - 2007.10.17 22:23:00 -
[53]
I would like to Purchase 350 shares
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Vesta Karr
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Posted - 2007.10.17 22:31:00 -
[54]
I would like to buy 30 shares.
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Treelox
Amarr
Frontier Technologies
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Posted - 2007.10.17 22:41:00 -
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would like to reserve another 75mil isk worth of the newly revalued shares, if that measure passes. I wont send isk till I see my reservation acknowledged.
Thanks
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Benvie
Benvie Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.10.17 22:49:00 -
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Edited by: Benvie on 17/10/2007 22:50:40
Originally by: Akita T
You say you purchased 2k shares at 75% IPO (so 1 bil worth of shares for 750 mil ISK), and I suppose Benvie will do something similar.
Is that the ONLY "salary" you and/or Benvie will be collecting ?
Or are there other "cuts" off the top (or bottom) after the IPO liquidates all assets several weeks/months post-patch ?
I will not be purchasing shares, rather if the IPO returns more than 5% per month (will be calculated to the nearest day) I will take 25% of the profit. Along with this, I will also cover up to 10% of the value should the investment depreciate.
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Also, how will you be distributing all the ISK obtained in the liquidation if not all shares are sold ?
And how many actual shares will exist, exactly as many as sold, or double (to prevent takeovers) ?
Well the entirety of the initial 15 billion have been sold. If the vote to double share value and market cap to 30 billion passes I'm pretty sure it will sell out fairly quickly as well. In the unlikely event that it doesn't I'm sure Shar will just continually issue dividends on the remaining ISK in order to distribute it all.
All shares will be sold, none will be held by the corp. This will make it easier to distribute dividends. Since the corp won't actually hold anything (Shar has all assets) it only acts as a method of distributing dividends.
Quote:
Will you be injecting extra ISK from other sources, paying dividends until leftover funds are equal to extra injected, then get injected funds back ? Or rather distribute manually *all* shares leftover in corp wallet to all actual shareholders, according to shares sold so far, and having a single one-time-lump-sum dividend payment ?
There will not be any outside ISK injected, just funds from share sales. The goal is to keep this as simple as possible.
I hope that answers your concerns, if not feel free to ask any more questions.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2007.10.17 23:02:00 -
[57]
Aaaah, so the corp is just the payment option, got it.
Makes perfect sense.
The last section wasn't needed in that event, and the issue of corp takeover is... well, not an issue
Hmm, all shares sold already ? Heh. Figures. Is that sold (ISK transfered) or reserved ones included ?
Told you so in the other thread, you can easily make this a much larger IPO
I wouldn't be surprised even if over 50 bil will be possible to be gathered soon if you want to.
So... when can we (probably) expect the next shares to be available then ?
And can we reserve some now ?
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Johanna Delacroix
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Posted - 2007.10.17 23:05:00 -
[58]
I'd like to acquire, should the vote be positive, at least 400mil worth of shares. Please view this as my conditional reservation.
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Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2007.10.17 23:13:00 -
[59]
Originally by: Akita T
So... when can we (probably) expect the next shares to be available then ? EDIT: Nevermind, noticed where it's being talked about, will see there  And can we reserve some now ?
Yes, as you see some people are reserving "potential" shares already. Mostly because they've asked me about it in game. As to when the "potentiality" will be realized. As of my last post on the vote thread share holder yes is at 30.568% and share holder no is at 0%. As to my investment. Benvie detailed his portrion of the payroll. Being a latter adddtion to the mix I thought it best if I simply get paid via my confidence. I benefit, or lose, to no greater extent, essentially, than any other investor. In simpler terms, mine is the same sort of employee deal that is common in most pre-ipo real life corporations.
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Jon Sanng
Minmatar
DucKtape Unlimited
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Posted - 2007.10.17 23:21:00 -
[60]
I'll take 300.
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Minerva Vulcan
Caldari
The Nexus Foundation
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Posted - 2007.10.17 23:22:00 -
[61]
ISK sent
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Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2007.10.17 23:23:00 -
[62]
Originally by: Minerva Vulcan
ISK sent
Rejected.
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Minerva Vulcan
Caldari
The Nexus Foundation
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Posted - 2007.10.17 23:28:00 -
[63]
Originally by: Shar Tegral
Originally by: Minerva Vulcan
ISK sent
Rejected.
Awoo?
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Minerva Vulcan
Caldari
The Nexus Foundation
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Posted - 2007.10.17 23:34:00 -
[64]
Shar... I just read your comment on my returned ISK. You wrongly think that I'm in some way related to Miss Fiona.
I'd like to point out that Miss Fiona's corp is Nexus Trading guild.
My Corporation is The Nexus Foundation.
While they both have "Nexus" in them, they're very much not the same entity.
I don't think your "Go to Hell" note is quite warranted.
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Adrimar
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Posted - 2007.10.17 23:41:00 -
[65]
Originally by: Minerva Vulcan
Shar... I just read your comment on my returned ISK. You wrongly think that I'm in some way related to Miss Fiona.
I'd like to point out that Miss Fiona's corp is Nexus Trading guild.
My Corporation is The Nexus Foundation.
While they both have "Nexus" in them, they're very much not the same entity.
I don't think your "Go to Hell" note is quite warranted.
I am sure that Shar will check this out now that you have brought it to his attention. However, Shar is rather direct in his dealings. If he believes that you are in some way affiliated with Miss Fiona, then he will not take your isk come hell or high water.
One of Shar's weaknesses is that he (almost) always says his mind. In this case, if he believes that he is in error, I am sure that he will take back his "go to hell." If he thinks that he is right, then he sure as hell won't.
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Minerva Vulcan
Caldari
The Nexus Foundation
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Posted - 2007.10.17 23:57:00 -
[66]
Originally by: Adrimar
Originally by: Minerva Vulcan
Shar... I just read your comment on my returned ISK. You wrongly think that I'm in some way related to Miss Fiona.
I'd like to point out that Miss Fiona's corp is Nexus Trading guild.
My Corporation is The Nexus Foundation.
While they both have "Nexus" in them, they're very much not the same entity.
I don't think your "Go to Hell" note is quite warranted.
I am sure that Shar will check this out now that you have brought it to his attention. However, Shar is rather direct in his dealings. If he believes that you are in some way affiliated with Miss Fiona, then he will not take your isk come hell or high water.
One of Shar's weaknesses is that he (almost) always says his mind. In this case, if he believes that he is in error, I am sure that he will take back his "go to hell." If he thinks that he is right, then he sure as hell won't.
As someone who's fairly new to these forums, the last thing I need is being wrongly associated with some sub-par scammer. Or any scammer, for that matter. Though I have no plans of trying to start an IPO or any such of my own in any forseeable future, I'm still here to invest some loose ISK I have nothing better to do with, and I'd rather not be blackballed from such things due to a misconception.
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Kara Rhane
Gallente
Rhane's Research and Development Labs.
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Posted - 2007.10.17 23:58:00 -
[67]
Hey Shar,
Just wanted to know how many shares are left and if the price has changed at all.
If so maybe an update post on what's left could be in order, tho I see you updating the 4th post with the total. Just wanted to find out and such, I believe you have the means to make this happen and I wanted to send in some ISK. Just wanted to see what's left is all 
Hope it works the way you want
-Kara
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Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2007.10.18 00:03:00 -
[68]
Originally by: Minerva Vulcan
As someone who's fairly new to these forums, the last thing I need is being wrongly associated with some sub-par scammer.
Ack!!! My most humble apologies. As my remark was, "Miss Fiona is your CEO, go to hell!" is obviously off key here.... I agree. Quite reprehensible of me.
It's A GIRL!!!!! |
Minerva Vulcan
Caldari
The Nexus Foundation
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Posted - 2007.10.18 00:10:00 -
[69]
Originally by: Shar Tegral
Originally by: Minerva Vulcan
As someone who's fairly new to these forums, the last thing I need is being wrongly associated with some sub-par scammer.
Ack!!! My most humble apologies. As my remark was, "Miss Fiona is your CEO, go to hell!" is obviously off key here.... I agree. Quite reprehensible of me.
Shall I resend the ISK, then?
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Taikun
Gallente
Serenity Prime
Praesidium Libertatis
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Posted - 2007.10.18 00:15:00 -
[70]
Originally by: Shar Tegral
Originally by: Minerva Vulcan
As someone who's fairly new to these forums, the last thing I need is being wrongly associated with some sub-par scammer.
Ack!!! My most humble apologies. As my remark was, "Miss Fiona is your CEO, go to hell!" is obviously off key here.... I agree. Quite reprehensible of me.
But not surprising in the least with your track record of abuse of others in these forums.
Given your track record and description of yourself it surprises me you have anyone investing. ESPECIALLY after I read the IPO details of what is planned with the isk.
Still... there is more ISK than sense in this section of the EvE forums.
Taikun
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Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2007.10.18 00:22:00 -
[71]
Originally by: Minerva Vulcan
Shall I resend the ISK, then?
I'd say wait, even now. It is by no means certain that there will be more available shares for transfer. Far better to post your desire and I will recognize posted reservations before simple evemails and isk transfers. Even if the reservation is paid 24 to 48 hours later.
It's A GIRL!!!!! |
Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2007.10.18 00:32:00 -
[72]
Originally by: Taikun
But not surprising in the least with your track record of abuse of others in these forums.
Given our personal track record you mean. Those who I have abused are a distinct minority limited mostly to these forums. You, directly, I seek in game to correct my oversight regarding abusing you. However this is not the time nor place for a continuation of your hostility nor mine. Originally by: Taikun
Given your track record and description of yourself it surprises me you have anyone investing. ESPECIALLY after I read the IPO details of what is planned with the isk.
I invite your commentary if you can keep it from trolling, flame baiting, or some continuation of conflict between you & I or between you and various others. I don't mean it lightly when I say this: I've before stated my respect for your ability to think. But I have no time, or patience, for this continued forum war you seem to wage against various people. Myself included. It's getting to grief, mate. Can it, please.
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Adrimar
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Posted - 2007.10.18 00:33:00 -
[73]
Originally by: Taikun
But not surprising in the least with your track record of abuse of others in these forums.
Given your track record and description of yourself it surprises me you have anyone investing. ESPECIALLY after I read the IPO details of what is planned with the isk.
Still... there is more ISK than sense in this section of the EvE forums.
Taikun
It is a high risk investment, granted and noted.
Shar can be abusive and direct, also well known to many of us. On the other hand Shar has always been, to me at the very least, completely honest. Despite me being willing to believe and trust him he has given me full access to his "sexy" offline wallet app which allows me to track all the sales that he does for me.
Have we had arguments over how much he has owed me, yes. He thought it was 144mil, I thought it was 102mil. We agreed that he owed me 133mil and were both happy, and this is how every single transaction I have had with Shar has ended, with both sides happy. If he believes that this IPO has a good chance, then I believe him. On the other hand I am only investing isk that I have left over, so to speak liquid isk that I don't know what else to do with.
Never invest what you cannot afford to lose, no matter who is running the show.
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Minerva Vulcan
Caldari
The Nexus Foundation
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Posted - 2007.10.18 00:35:00 -
[74]
Originally by: Shar Tegral
Originally by: Minerva Vulcan
Shall I resend the ISK, then?
I'd say wait, even now. It is by no means certain that there will be more available shares for transfer. Far better to post your desire and I will recognize posted reservations before simple evemails and isk transfers. Even if the reservation is paid 24 to 48 hours later.
Like my posted reservation in the 12th post in this thread? :P
I'm guessing you turned around and gave those shares to someone else already, then?
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FastLearner
Fury Holdings
Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2007.10.18 00:40:00 -
[75]
3 billion worth more of shares booked if the share doubling goes ahead. Will send ISK soon as I';m online after the vote passes (if it does).
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FastLearner
Fury Holdings
Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2007.10.18 00:44:00 -
[76]
Edited by: FastLearner on 18/10/2007 00:44:42
Originally by: Taikun
Originally by: Shar Tegral
Originally by: Minerva Vulcan
As someone who's fairly new to these forums, the last thing I need is being wrongly associated with some sub-par scammer.
Ack!!! My most humble apologies. As my remark was, "Miss Fiona is your CEO, go to hell!" is obviously off key here.... I agree. Quite reprehensible of me.
But not surprising in the least with your track record of abuse of others in these forums.
Given your track record and description of yourself it surprises me you have anyone investing. ESPECIALLY after I read the IPO details of what is planned with the isk.
Still... there is more ISK than sense in this section of the EvE forums.
Taikun
Not sure where you draw that conclusion from. Anyone (other than a total idiot) isn't likely to lose any substantial amount of money speculating on changes: if they get it wrong then they (i.e. their shareholders) only lose out on the broker fees associated with buying/selling the stock. If they get any reasonable proportion of their picks right then shareholders make a decent amount of ISK. I'll disgareee with Shar on any number of things (and agree with him on some) but nothing I've seen causes me to doubt his integrity. So for me I either make make a profit or find out that his judgment is shockingly poor - either way I've gained from the experience. And all for a fairly cheap risk.
Of course if he has a stapler in his hand it could all go horribly wrong ...
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Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2007.10.18 00:57:00 -
[77]
Originally by: Minerva Vulcan
Like my posted reservation in the 12th post in this thread? :P I'm guessing you turned around and gave those shares to someone else already, then?
LMFAO, bugger me already will you. Why didn't you say that you were already on the list of " confirmed" shareholders. Your shares are being held for you by me. No one else. With so many posts it is easy to not recognize a shareholder. As is apparent, one "nexus" named corp trolled and then I saw your "isk sent" and erred thinking you were just a newly interested person.
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Rhiraven
Gallente
The Scope
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Posted - 2007.10.18 00:59:00 -
[78]
Please don't feed the troll. There's really no reason to take Taikun seriously in any thread Shar Tegral has posted in.
The guy has a vendetta or something.
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Taikun
Gallente
Serenity Prime
Praesidium Libertatis
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Posted - 2007.10.18 01:12:00 -
[79]
Originally by: Rhiraven
Please don't feed the troll. There's really no reason to take Taikun seriously in any thread Shar Tegral has posted in.
The guy has a vendetta or something.
I am allowed to speculate on this offering as this is a market DISCUSSION forum. If I had a vendetta I'd email ISD and have this thread shut down or moved as quite clearly Shar is trying to sell shares and this should be in the "Want to Sell" forums.
Keep your speculation about my motives to yourself.
As it was said by another posters. This seems to me a high risk, high speculative eventure with a questionable backer. Others are welcome to see differently and quite obviously do so.
I won't be 'silent' just because my opinion is not reflected by the mindless masses, nor will I accept blanket accusations my motives for posting are a vendetta. That is pure garbage Rhiraven.
I have opinion based upon Shars behaviour and this offering and I gave it. Nothing more, nothing less.
Taikun
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Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2007.10.18 01:24:00 -
[80]
Originally by: Taikun
As it was said by another posters. This seems to me a high risk, high speculative eventure with a questionable backer. Others are welcome to see differently and quite obviously do so.
Who said that this was with a questionable backer? I'm curious.
It's A GIRL!!!!! |
Adrimar
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Posted - 2007.10.18 01:34:00 -
[81]
I would like to up my reservation from 400mil to 1bil please.
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Taikun
Gallente
Serenity Prime
Praesidium Libertatis
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Posted - 2007.10.18 01:37:00 -
[82]
Originally by: Shar Tegral
Originally by: Taikun
As it was said by another posters. This seems to me a high risk, high speculative eventure with a questionable backer. Others are welcome to see differently and quite obviously do so.
Who said that this was with a questionable backer? I'm curious.
Since you asked. You.
Originally by: Shar Tegral
I don't give a rat's ass about the community's opinion of me. I do what I do because it is what I want to do regardless of (un)popular opinions or any trends or fads.
I don't feel comfortable investing ISK with someone who self-opinion is as confrontational at this. At best, a 'questionable' charactor assessment.
But like I said, others will read and assess this quite differently than me. I interpreted it in my own particular way.
Taikun
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Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2007.10.18 01:47:00 -
[83]
Originally by: Shar Tegral
I don't give a rat's ass about the community's opinion of me. I do what I do because it is what I want to do regardless of (un)popular opinions or any trends or fads.
Originally by: Taikun
I don't feel comfortable investing ISK with someone who self-opinion is as confrontational at this. At best, a 'questionable' charactor assessment.
Well then say you are too confrontational. That you can hang your hat safely on. But you have to go over to 'questionable' character assessment. And that's a bit over the top. Of course better people than you have said the same thing about my personality. And they were not wrong. Being confrontational goes into the face of convention. I say do it at risk however if I tried to be all nice and lovey dovey then I would be duplicitous would I not. So far better for me to be honest about who I am, how I am, and have always been. The alternative is to be like you. Yapping at your betters because you can't get them banned or are willing to meet them in game for a fair fight. In closing, I tire of your incessant attacking of me. But then I keep turning off grease monkey for some silly reason. There you go, the one fatal character flaw. I can't seem to realize that you are totally worthless to me and my life. Now you may go screaming to the high heavens, "Yes, Shar is flawed and I knew it!!!" While you are there see if you can find a clue as well.
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Tahiri Yani
R Rated
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Posted - 2007.10.18 01:54:00 -
[84]
I'll take 240 shares.
Isk sent
thx :)
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Taikun
Gallente
Serenity Prime
Praesidium Libertatis
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Posted - 2007.10.18 02:04:00 -
[85]
Edited by: Taikun on 18/10/2007 02:04:07
Originally by: Shar Tegral
[justify] Originally by: Shar Tegral
I don't give a rat's ass about the community's opinion of me. I do what I do because it is what I want to do regardless of (un)popular opinions or any trends or fads.
Well then say you are too confrontational. That you can hang your hat safely on. But you have to go over to 'questionable' character assessment. And that's a bit over the top.
I thought you didn't give a 'rats ass' what anyone thought about you? Really dude. It's just my opinion. Let it go.
Taikun
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Digital Nightfall
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Posted - 2007.10.18 02:14:00 -
[86]
Originally by: Taikun
Originally by: Shar Tegral
Originally by: Minerva Vulcan
As someone who's fairly new to these forums, the last thing I need is being wrongly associated with some sub-par scammer.
Ack!!! My most humble apologies. As my remark was, "Miss Fiona is your CEO, go to hell!" is obviously off key here.... I agree. Quite reprehensible of me.
But not surprising in the least with your track record of abuse of others in these forums.
Given your track record and description of yourself it surprises me you have anyone investing. ESPECIALLY after I read the IPO details of what is planned with the isk.
Still... there is more ISK than sense in this section of the EvE forums.
Taikun
I really dont see why Shar's personalty on the forums has much to do with her buisness skill in game. As someone questioned above, why anyone would buy shares from someone like Shar, I'd wager, for the obvious reasons? Why not get a bulldog over a poodle if youre going to want them to get the kill and bring it home to you?
Anyway, dont know the beef you have with Shar, but I was mildly surprised by your question earlier, I would suggest Shar probably has a very good personality for running a competitive buisness.
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Miss Fiona
Gallente
Nexus Trading guild
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Posted - 2007.10.18 02:15:00 -
[87]
Well maybe since Shar Tegral have the same ip as severl of the people bidding on the stocks?
and they buy from 200m-1b. now that seems a bit strange.
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Miss Fiona
Gallente
Nexus Trading guild
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Posted - 2007.10.18 02:19:00 -
[88]
Allso if you do a bit of search about Shar Tegral, you will found out that she/he has ran several scams in the past. with the samme mmo
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Adrimar
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Posted - 2007.10.18 02:28:00 -
[89]
Originally by: Miss Fiona
Allso if you do a bit of search about Shar Tegral, you will found out that she/he has ran several scams in the past. with the samme mmo
Links please or stfu
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Genbukan
Best Buy INC
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Posted - 2007.10.18 02:54:00 -
[90]
Originally by: Miss Fiona
Allso if you do a bit of search about Shar Tegral, you will found out that she/he has ran several scams in the past. with the samme mmo
Am I really reading this? I am sure most people are just ignoring you. But for crying out loud post something of relevance to support your statement.
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Taikun
Gallente
Serenity Prime
Praesidium Libertatis
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Posted - 2007.10.18 03:07:00 -
[91]
Originally by: Miss Fiona
Allso if you do a bit of search about Shar Tegral, you will found out that she/he has ran several scams in the past. with the samme mmo
Even I have to say you are full of bull**** here. Shar hasn't ran or been involved in ANY fraudulent activities in these forums for as long as I have been reading them.
I may question his charactor and the details about his IPOs from a business perspective but your statement is pure and utter trash.
Taikun
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2007.10.18 03:40:00 -
[92]
Edited by: Akita T on 18/10/2007 03:45:00
Originally by: Miss Fiona
Well maybe since Shar Tegral have the same ip as severl of the people bidding on the stocks?
and they buy from 200m-1b. now that seems a bit strange.
What seems strange is you claiming to have any way of knowing what you claim to know, namely IP addresses of EVE players that posted IN THIS FORUM.
And if you WOULD indeed have them, you would PROBABLY deserve a shiny ban from CCP... depending on how exactly you got that info.
Lose/lose situation for you there, buddy...
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Shadarle
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Posted - 2007.10.18 05:04:00 -
[93]
I'll reserve 3000 more shares when the vote passes (which it will). I kind of liked owning 20% of the company, nice round number, but leaves plenty of shares for others.
I've only invested 6 billion ISK once before and it was done recently. They are the two people I enjoy reading posts from the most on these forums right now, so I might as well invest my money with them.
Shar is extremely rude in some posts, which is exactly why I love his posts. He isn't always rude, he simply says what needs to be said. Quite refreshing. And as I've said before, anyone with a name that is often times my nickname can't be bad 
I'm not even gonna bother responding to the trolls that have come out, not the time nor place for it. Letting trolls rot is generally the best policy. But it can be tough at times.
Tanking Setups Compared
Stacking Penalty / Resists Explained |
Minerva Vulcan
Caldari
The Nexus Foundation
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Posted - 2007.10.18 05:42:00 -
[94]
Originally by: Miss Fiona
Well maybe since Shar Tegral have the same ip as severl of the people bidding on the stocks?
and they buy from 200m-1b. now that seems a bit strange.
Considering that there's no limit on the amount of shares that can be bought be one person, I'd say there would be no need to use alts.
You're an idiot, and a complete failure.
These posts of yours are the reason why you'll never see a single ISK from the EVE community ever.
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Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2007.10.18 07:26:00 -
[95]
Originally by: Miss Fiona
Well maybe since Shar Tegral have the same ip as severl of the people bidding on the stocks? and they buy from 200m-1b. now that seems a bit strange.
You have so caught me in the act. The truth is that everyone who has purchased these shares is an alt of mine and I've only been transferring money from myself to myself. No one here is real, just a figment of my imagination. Any rational or reasonable statements or questions coming from you though? Originally by: Minerva Vulcan
These posts of yours are the reason why you'll never see a single ISK from the EVE community ever.
Exactly what I tried telling him/her. But alas... besides did you notice that you were on the list of "registered" shareholders? This means you're vote is needed on the open thread covering that. (Don't let the snafu over your corp "name" suggest that there was any other conspiracy going on. Just a bit of delayed awareness on that. Please don't make be beg to be forgiven. I don't beg well.)
It's A GIRL!!!!! |
Jerppu
Minmatar
Brotherhood of Polar Equation
Mordus Angels
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Posted - 2007.10.18 08:07:00 -
[96]
Originally by: Shar Tegral
Edited by: Shar Tegral on 17/10/2007 21:21:22
Here is the list, in time order, of confirmed isk transactions for shares:
Treelox175,000,000.00
Dr Slurm100,000,000.00
Kazuo Ishiguro250,000,000.00
Tarash Awin500,000,000.00
Kaisho Stormrider20,000,000.00
Countess Xiao50,000,000.00
Taryn Ceridwen50,000,000.00
King Boris250,000,000.00
Rhiraven50,000,000.00
Jerppu150,000,000.00
Dohkar300,000,000.00
Martosh Toma500,000,000.00
Unnamed Investor #1250,000,000.00
Unnamed Investor #2500,000,000.00
Jocca Quinn250,000,000.00
Bringing Sexyback19,000,000.00
Dealema50,000,000.00
Sir Artus250,000,000.00
Akilah1,000,000,000.00
Cabernetter125,000,000.00
FastLearner3,000,000,000.00
Potsnack500,000,000.00
Adonis 4174200,000,000.00
Unnamed Investor #3250,000,000.00
Shadarle3,000,000,000.00
Autonomous Monster15,000,000.00
Unnamed Investor #462,500,000.00
Votee2,000,000,000.00
Can I have my shares please?
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BPQ Recruitment |
Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2007.10.18 08:16:00 -
[97]
Originally by: Jerppu
Can I have my shares please?
Yes, you may. I just want a few minutes to double check all my info and lists before I start. (4:15 am here and I need caffeine.)
It's A GIRL!!!!! |
Jerppu
Minmatar
Brotherhood of Polar Equation
Mordus Angels
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Posted - 2007.10.18 08:21:00 -
[98]
Sure thing, np. 
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BPQ Recruitment |
Minerva Vulcan
Caldari
The Nexus Foundation
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Posted - 2007.10.18 08:28:00 -
[99]
Originally by: Shar Tegral
Exactly what I tried telling him/her. But alas... besides did you notice that you were on the list of "registered" shareholders? This means you're vote is needed on the open thread covering that. (Don't let the snafu over your corp "name" suggest that there was any other conspiracy going on. Just a bit of delayed awareness on that. Please don't make be beg to be forgiven. I don't beg well.)[/justify]
Yeah, I'll get around to that. I saw that thread right after my ISK was sent back, so I held off on commenting in it then forgot about it later on. I'll head on over there soon.
I usually like people to beg, but I'll give you a pass this time.
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Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2007.10.18 09:04:00 -
[100]
Okay updated some details and information here. Gist at this time: 1376 shares left for purchase. Getting ready to start sending out them shares.
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Shannar'a
Enterprise Inc
Empire Research
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Posted - 2007.10.18 09:35:00 -
[101]
Edited by: Shannar''a on 18/10/2007 09:39:01
i'll take 1000 of the remaining shares
isk sent
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Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2007.10.18 09:35:00 -
[102]
Okay, everyone on the first confirmed shareholder list has received their shares at this time. I'm going to go to bed now but when I wake I'll update my data from the api and then do the next round of share transfers for newly confirmed shareholders.
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Ayami Sakura
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Posted - 2007.10.18 10:53:00 -
[103]
I'll take 800 shares, please. Isk sent!
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2007.10.18 13:22:00 -
[104]
2007.10.18 13:20 EVE-time : 500,000,000.00 ISK sent to "Shar Tegral" for 500 reserved RDIR shares.
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Feyloan
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Posted - 2007.10.18 13:43:00 -
[105]
I would like to reserve 150 Shares for 150,000,000 however, due to currently sitting in Ireland, I will not be able to transfer the funds until I arrive back home again next Thursday after DT, I hope this is ok. 
Originally by: CCP Sharkbait
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Ayami Sakura
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Posted - 2007.10.18 14:03:00 -
[106]
About the post I made above, I actually only sent 400M since I thought the share price was at 500K a piece. Hence, I really would like only 400 shares. Sorry for any confusion that might have caused.
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Shadarle
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Posted - 2007.10.18 16:02:00 -
[107]
Do you want the money for the 2nd round of shares now if we've reserved them? Or should we wait a bit to let you catch up.
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Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2007.10.18 18:05:00 -
[108]
Originally by: Shadarle
Do you want the money for the 2nd round of shares now if we've reserved them? Or should we wait a bit to let you catch up.
Well I'm totally caught up with the first batch. So yeah, the isk floodgates are open again. Let it rain.
(I'm off to get some coffee and breakfast. Coffee!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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Shadarle
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Posted - 2007.10.18 18:20:00 -
[109]
In that case, money sent.
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Matthew Munro
Gallente
Aliastra
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Posted - 2007.10.18 18:32:00 -
[110]
50 shares thanks
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Jon Sanng
Minmatar
DucKtape Unlimited
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Posted - 2007.10.18 18:40:00 -
[111]
Sorry for the confusion, but my reservation was intended to be 300 @ the old price of 500,000 ISK each.
Since the price has been changed I'll have to adjust down to 150 shares, sorry about that.
P.S. ISK sent.
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Simon Meyer
Gallente
Silent Sun Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.10.18 18:47:00 -
[112]
i'll take 500 million isk in shares
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Slain Slaughter
R.P. Frizzink inc
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Posted - 2007.10.18 18:49:00 -
[113]
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Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2007.10.18 19:04:00 -
[114]
Originally by: Jon Sanng
Sorry for the confusion, but my reservation was intended to be 300 @ the old price of 500,000 ISK each. Since the price has been changed I'll have to adjust down to 150 shares, sorry about that.
I wisely decided early on to track people by how much isk they sent and not specifically by how many shares they asked for. This allowed the first rump meeting to be held (a surprising success that was btw) and it also allows for this situation. Simply, I copy and paste, from Ray's Sexy exporter, into Excel. It divides what people have sent in by share price and thus I know how many to send. Being that share transfers are one of the last areas of Eve that is high risk via the UI (Unless you have a cat or stapler or a cat named stapler) I also track every share transfer I do as well. So, I'm highly anal about this whole process. Like I said, my place is asset handler for the security of the investors. I have a vested interest in success, yes, but as much vested interest in this being managed right. So no worries. My only real problem is that I see a secondary market for these shares already opening up from the high demand. Yall know there weren't many 2nd round shares left right? PS: Real Life summons... nay... commands my presence. Going to be afk for a time. Women folk! (And yes, I'm leashed, whipped, whatever. Quite happily too.)
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Tahiri Yani
R Rated
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Posted - 2007.10.18 19:17:00 -
[115]
I sent cash for 250 shares. I know I had only reserved 240. but I'd prefer 250 if there are 10 extra shares I can have laying about.
Round numbers are so much nicer to look at
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Jacques Archambault
Forum Moderator
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Posted - 2007.10.18 20:44:00 -
[116]
Thread cleaned.
Please only post here if you have a question to the OP or if you wish to make a purchase. Anti-competitive posts are considered trolling and will be warned for.
-Jacques
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Redbad
Minmatar
Mean Corp
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Posted - 2007.10.18 21:28:00 -
[117]
I'll take 250 shares, for 250 mil totals.
Will send the ISK.
RB
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Ghost Emperor
Amarr
EvE Mutual Fund Inc.
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Posted - 2007.10.18 22:19:00 -
[118]
Hi there Shar
If its OK I would like to test the water with a 1,000 share purchase, 1 billion will be sent if you haven't sold out yet :O
All the best
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Paco Drago
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Posted - 2007.10.18 22:28:00 -
[119]
Hi.
This sounds like a pretty good idea to me. I have been looking at getting into some investing in EVE for a while, and this seems like a good way to get started. I would like to purchase 150 shares please; 150 million ISK sent.
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Shadarle
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Posted - 2007.10.18 23:29:00 -
[120]
Originally by: Paco Drago
Hi.
This sounds like a pretty good idea to me. I have been looking at getting into some investing in EVE for a while, and this seems like a good way to get started. I would like to purchase 150 shares please; 150 million ISK sent.
Remember, this is a VERY high risk investment compared to most every other one out there. For a first investment this could be a bit more than you're bargaining for. It may yield amazing profits or you could lose a lot of money. Just make sure you don't invest anything you don't mind losing.
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Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2007.10.19 03:22:00 -
[121]
Sorry for those waiting, it has been a busy night for me and I'm trying to figure out the order in which late comers get first bite at shares and which ones I have to send money back. I prefer to move slowly and carefully at this stage simply because the reversal of any mistakes during share transfer relies on the kindness of a third party.
I'm too damn paranoid for that to be an option.
Also, slight personal and executive decision here but I've given Benvie some discretionary funds to work with for any time that I am not around and movement needs be swift. The limit of these funds is 2b (my stake) which I feel is mine to freely place at risk. If he absconds with it, I sell my stake, kick him to the curb and make good as I can on the whole project. (Shrugs)
But it is something that should be freely disclosed so there you are, disclosed.
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Bianka Bismarck
Caldari
Warrior Nation United
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Posted - 2007.10.19 05:25:00 -
[122]
I will buy in for 50 shares.
Currently sending 50.000.000 isk
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Shadarle
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Posted - 2007.10.19 05:28:00 -
[123]
Originally by: Shar Tegral
[justify]Sorry for those waiting, it has been a busy night for me and I'm trying to figure out the order in which late comers get first bite at shares and which ones I have to send money back. I prefer to move slowly and carefully at this stage simply because the reversal of any mistakes during share transfer relies on the kindness of a third party.
If it's full you should say so, it seems people will keep sending you money otherwise, heh.
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Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2007.10.19 06:39:00 -
[124]
Originally by: Shadarle
If it's full you should say so, it seems people will keep sending you money otherwise, heh.
Yeah, I forgot to change the title. I wasn't too much though. I've produced another update that should lay out exactly where all shares are to be sent. That is if everyone keeps their reservations. If it matters to you at all I'd suggest you look over the list and confirm for yourself your place in it. I don't think I missed anyone but you can't be too careful. PS: Going to bed. Be back in 8 hours or so (w/l)ife depending.
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Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2007.10.19 23:45:00 -
[125]
Game disruption has interfered with the ability of some people to honor any reservations. I'm going to audit my tallies against game data and once I'm absolutely certain that all the data matches I'll then start doing the second batch of share transfers. (I really hate the interface for this - not easy on my nerves.)
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Minerva Vulcan
Caldari
The Nexus Foundation
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Posted - 2007.10.20 00:27:00 -
[126]
Still haven't got my shares, btw.
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Shadarle
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Posted - 2007.10.20 01:10:00 -
[127]
Edited by: Shadarle on 20/10/2007 01:13:48
Originally by: Minerva Vulcan
Still haven't got my shares, btw.
Your name is in the payment received list and not the shares sent list. He just hasn't gotten around to sending them to you yet as far as I can tell. First page lists it all.
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Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2007.10.20 02:33:00 -
[128]
Second batch of shares have been transferred. I will be tallying up reservations that have sent payment over what there was of today and into the early part of tomorrow (for me) tomorrow.
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Fitz VonHeise
The New Order.
United Connection's
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Posted - 2007.10.20 03:13:00 -
[129]
Isk sent for 600 shares.
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Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2007.10.20 22:50:00 -
[130]
Updated to reflect all share transfers that have been completed.
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Treelox
Amarr
Frontier Technologies
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Posted - 2007.10.20 23:13:00 -
[131]
Originally by: Shar Tegral
Updated to reflect all share transfers that have been completed.
woot...
let the isk making begin
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Paco Drago
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Posted - 2007.10.21 01:35:00 -
[132]
Originally by: Shadarle
Originally by: Paco Drago
Hi.
This sounds like a pretty good idea to me. I have been looking at getting into some investing in EVE for a while, and this seems like a good way to get started. I would like to purchase 150 shares please; 150 million ISK sent.
Remember, this is a VERY high risk investment compared to most every other one out there. For a first investment this could be a bit more than you're bargaining for. It may yield amazing profits or you could lose a lot of money. Just make sure you don't invest anything you don't mind losing.
Thanks for the advice, it is well appreciated :) I know I sound like a noob when I type but I actually do research things like this. Also, I did only put in as much as I was willing to lose (the cost of a battleship :P ).
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Ricdic
Caldari
Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd
Zzz
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Posted - 2007.10.21 01:48:00 -
[133]
I have sent 500m from Ricdic for 500m worth of shares
I have also sent 500m from EBANK Ricdic for another 500m worth of shares.
Cheers
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2007.10.21 02:18:00 -
[134]
Personally, I'm hoping on a doubling within 3-4 months
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Shadarle
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Posted - 2007.10.21 02:21:00 -
[135]
Originally by: Akita T
Personally, I'm hoping on a doubling within 3-4 months
Would be nice, but I'd be quite happy with anything over 10%/month
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Benvie
Benvie Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.10.21 02:39:00 -
[136]
I am very optimistic.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2007.10.21 03:56:00 -
[137]
Edited by: Akita T on 21/10/2007 03:57:00
My personal investment saw already almost a doubling in less than 40 days 
And that's with "buy from sell orders, sell to buy orders.
I'm waiting for a bit more
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Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2007.10.23 08:47:00 -
[138]
Originally by: Akita T
I'm waiting for a bit more
Well your prediction on the window of opportunity is proving to be very accurate. The market is moving very briskly in the area of components for the new ships coming out. Searching heavily for any good speculative deals still worth doing. If you happen to be looking to do a mass offloading of advanced materials please feel free to eve mail me terms as we are looking to reach our full utilization some time this week. Especially before the market goes completely insane in a month or so.
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