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Varia Net
Caldari
KO Solutions
E.A.R.T.H. Federation
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Posted - 2007.10.20 09:12:00 -
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CCP, I got a call from my credit card company on Thursday,
asking me to confirm a transaction done that very day.
It wasn't done by me, thus fraud.
As a result my number and card had to be blocked, for replacement, with all the hassle that brings.
And now I read of your security breach?
That is NO coincidence.
You apparently haven't tracked everything down yet.
PLEASE don't downplay the severity of your db leak, and have another look a the info that got leaked out, to make sure.
Any others who got credit card issues these days?
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iiOs
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Posted - 2007.10.20 09:15:00 -
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how much was removed?
Click me and get isk
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Dave White
Beagle Corp
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Posted - 2007.10.20 09:16:00 -
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 Originally by: Varia Net
That is NO coincidence.
And why exactly not?
Originally by: GM Tacgnol
Oveur descended from the heavens (also known as the second floor) and beat us all with his nerfbat. 
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Jack Rowanburn
Ascent of Ages
Dark Matter Coalition
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Posted - 2007.10.20 09:16:00 -
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I don't mean to downplay this at all, but is eve the only thing you buy on your credit card? If not you may be jumping the gun a tad here. Yes it's a possibility, but you need to be sure before making these allegations. If it is the only thing you use the card for then I apologise.
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ZaKma
Seraphin Technologies
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.10.20 09:17:00 -
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Originally by: Varia Net
That is NO coincidence.
:psyderek:
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dimensionZ
Reikoku
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.10.20 09:18:00 -
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Just because you experienced a credit card problem doesnt mean that it has to be ccp's fault.
If they said that the billing informations arent stored in the same db as the TQ db (where the 'hack' happened), i'd tend to beleive them.
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Arvald
Caldari
House of Tempers
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Posted - 2007.10.20 09:18:00 -
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Edited by: Arvald on 20/10/2007 09:21:47
Edited by: Arvald on 20/10/2007 09:21:35
Edited by: Arvald on 20/10/2007 09:19:16
Originally by: Varia Net
CCP, I got a call from my credit card company on Thursday,
asking me to confirm a transaction done that very day.
It wasn't done by me, thus fraud.
As a result my number and card had to be blocked, for replacement, with all the hassle that brings.
And now I read of your security breach?
That is NO coincidence.
You apparently haven't tracked everything down yet.
PLEASE don't downplay the severity of your db leak, and have another look a the info that got leaked out, to make sure.
Any others who got credit card issues these days?
ya know whe caldari have a very very old saying, *ahem* SUX 4 U
(and no its not ccp's fault as they "hack" or whatever the hell it was was not on the place where all that info is stored)
ok thats enough forum whorage for me tonight, im goin to bed
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LaVista Vista
Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd
Zzz
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Posted - 2007.10.20 09:26:00 -
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Originally by: Varia Net
CCP, I got a call from my credit card company on Thursday,
asking me to confirm a transaction done that very day.
It wasn't done by me, thus fraud.
As a result my number and card had to be blocked, for replacement, with all the hassle that brings.
And now I read of your security breach?
That is NO coincidence.
You apparently haven't tracked everything down yet.
PLEASE don't downplay the severity of your db leak, and have another look a the info that got leaked out, to make sure.
Any others who got credit card issues these days?
If CCP doesnt encrypt our card data in at least 128bit encryption, im gonna cry.
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Lothros Andastar
Gallente
Imperium Forces
United Freemen Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.20 09:28:00 -
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yes ccp encrypt the data :p
this guy is just being an idiot trying to scam ccp and create a s**tstorm
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Haks'he Lirky
Dominion Imperium
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Posted - 2007.10.20 09:29:00 -
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Originally by: Varia Net
And now I read of your security breach?
That is NO coincidence.
200 thousand players, one with credit card issues on the same day, sure it can be a coincedence.
If there are more... yes then it would not be a coincedence.
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Kazuma Saruwatari
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Posted - 2007.10.20 09:30:00 -
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Originally by: Lothros Andastar
this guy is just being an idiot trying to scam ccp and create a s**tstorm
Not only that, but CC/payment details arent even stored on the same DB that was comprimised. CCP said it themselves.
Seriously, look into everything into what your card is connected to, and just not EVE. Jumping the gun never help anyone.
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Varia Net
Caldari
KO Solutions
E.A.R.T.H. Federation
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Posted - 2007.10.20 09:32:00 -
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Could be coincidence,
I don't know.
But right now, after 8 years of cc use?
No money was lost, as cc company itself reported it.
I'm just trying to help.
CCP can ban me, if I'm lieing.  Next renewal will be with a different cc number.
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Anarkia Evangel
Slacker Industries
Exuro Mortis
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Posted - 2007.10.20 09:37:00 -
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Originally by: Varia Net
Could be coincidence,
I'm just trying to help.
Your really not, maybe ring your cc company, I have a feeling they have a better idea of what happen than CCP do.
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Jenny Spitfire
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.10.20 09:37:00 -
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Is this true? I am quite jumpy when it comes to breach of trust with card details.
The last thing I need to do is cancel my card subscription and pay with GTCs. Kind of the sad because I really want to pay with card and support my favorite company. 
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Technica impendi Caldari generis. Pax Caldaria!
Kali is for KArebearLIng.
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Kazuma Saruwatari
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Posted - 2007.10.20 09:49:00 -
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I play with GTC's myself. Why?
Money-*******-grubbing banks here charging a 30% "overseas transfer" service fee.
the normally US$15 per month inflates to a rough US$21+ a month including other taxes.
Thankfully there's a local reseller of GTC's here, which is the saving grace for many here in terms of paying for EVE.
Double bonus is that I dont have to feed the capitalist pigdog banks here and still support the game I like.
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Thufir Hawats
Minmatar
venus divine brotherhood
The Threshold
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Posted - 2007.10.20 09:55:00 -
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One thing that disapoints me is that I can't directly pay through Paypal. It's only the largest internet payment system, so why bother? Sure, I can pay with Paybycash and use Paypal to pay THEM, but that adds nearly 25% to the cost alltogether resulting in a payment of $18.19 instead of $14.95. Very customer unfriendly. Hek, I know smallish internet shops that work directly with Paypal, why not CCP?
And does anyone know why I was billed $19.95 instead of $14.95 this month? Petitioned to ask, but didn't get an answer yet and I really very much like to know.
Originally by: Matthew
People are very fond of saying that Eve is not WoW. Well, Eve is not quake either.
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Empire marketslave
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Posted - 2007.10.20 10:23:00 -
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my bank always call when i buy something from ccp
its an international charge so it gets flagged a lot more easy
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El'Niaga
Minmatar
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2007.10.20 10:34:00 -
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The problem I have is that this isn't the first security breach, and considering past responses from CCP it probably won't be the last.
The last major breach was from the volunteer program where someone leaked out mail including real world information of a vast majority of customers and the mods.
We were told they'd look into it. About 3 months later they dissolved IRC and Aurora or so they claimed. In essence they just moved folks around from what I can see and pretty much the same names are posting.
They need to have an outside internet security firm come in and evaluate how they do business, their connection to the internet and general vulnerability of the system. Then take what they learn there and make changes to minimize any security breach in the future.
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Kagura Nikon
Minmatar
MASS HOMICIDE
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.10.20 10:41:00 -
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For god's sake people. No company in world would be stupid to the point of leavign CC data in a database that has ANY form of access from outside completely blocked.
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Jenny Spitfire
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.10.20 10:43:00 -
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Kagura, then why can we view our details of our card when we go into My Account?
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Technica impendi Caldari generis. Pax Caldaria!
Kali is for KArebearLIng.
I 100% agree with Avon.
Female EVE gamers? Mail Zajo or visit WGOE.Public in-game. |
Gavriel Black
Amarr
Disillusioned Perfection Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.10.20 10:57:00 -
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Last year some monkeys escaped from a nearby zoo, the very same day my house was broken into.
Luckily only a small amount of cash was taken, but the house had been trashed.
That is NO coincidence.
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Omega Man
The Geddy Foundation
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Posted - 2007.10.20 11:11:00 -
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Edited by: Omega Man on 20/10/2007 11:13:51
if only there were some real life laws which would mean the communication of a statement that makes a false claim, expressly stated or implied to be factual, that may harm the reputation of an individual, business, product, group, government or nation could be punishable.
Wouldn't that be neat.
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prsr
Gallente
JuBa Corp
RONA Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.20 11:15:00 -
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Originally by: Varia Net
That is NO coincidence.
You apparently haven't tracked everything down yet.
Speculation. Working cc details are traded over the net and the time between someone acquiring them and actually using them can be weeks if not months.
You sound like the computer crime taskforce where i live, they don't have a clue to what they are doing either.
BESIDES THAT
CCP doesn't store any details in the billing process themselves and have mentioned this many, many times already.
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Gryffindor
Trinity Nova
KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.20 11:17:00 -
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Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
Kagura, then why can we view our details of our card when we go into My Account?
i cant view my details of my aco**** unless my credit card has many x's in it :)
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Jenny Spitfire
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.10.20 11:48:00 -
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Edited by: Jenny Spitfire on 20/10/2007 11:47:49
Then how does the credit card get billed automatically to pay up subs?
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Technica impendi Caldari generis. Pax Caldaria!
Kali is for KArebearLIng.
I 100% agree with Avon.
Female EVE gamers? Mail Zajo or visit WGOE.Public in-game. |
Cypherous
Minmatar
Liberty Rogues
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Posted - 2007.10.20 12:43:00 -
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Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
Edited by: Jenny Spitfire on 20/10/2007 11:47:49
Then how does the credit card get billed automatically to pay up subs?
Its handled by a 3rd party company who store and hold your CC details, having the last 4 digits known isn't an issue your mini statement from an ATM in the UK displaysw those as it is.
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DubanFP
Caldari
Four Rings
Phalanx Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.20 13:19:00 -
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Also it doesn't really matter where you sent your credit card if they got it from your side. You might want to run virus scans, and check for any strange executables in task manager.
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KapnKaboom
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Posted - 2007.10.20 13:30:00 -
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Originally by: Varia Net
CCP, I got a call from my credit card company on Thursday,
asking me to confirm a transaction done that very day.
It wasn't done by me, thus fraud.
As a result my number and card had to be blocked, for replacement, with all the hassle that brings.
And now I read of your security breach?
That is NO coincidence.
You apparently haven't tracked everything down yet.
PLEASE don't downplay the severity of your db leak, and have another look a the info that got leaked out, to make sure.
Any others who got credit card issues these days?
Your credit card number was probably leaked by one of those **** sites you signed up for. 
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DOC PIC
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Posted - 2007.10.20 13:32:00 -
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Edited by: DOC PIC on 20/10/2007 13:33:09
Originally by: Varia Net
CCP, I got a call from my credit card company on Thursday,
asking me to confirm a transaction done that very day.
It wasn't done by me, thus fraud.
As a result my number and card had to be blocked, for replacement, with all the hassle that brings.
And now I read of your security breach?
That is NO coincidence.
You apparently haven't tracked everything down yet.
PLEASE don't downplay the severity of your db leak, and have another look a the info that got leaked out, to make sure.
Any others who got credit card issues these days?
Dude it was that buxom 19 yo bimbo cashier you was oooogleing the other day.
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Redjohn
Gallente
The UK Family
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Posted - 2007.10.20 13:48:00 -
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Edited by: Redjohn on 20/10/2007 13:51:56
Edited by: Redjohn on 20/10/2007 13:51:07
well first thing you should have done, is asked your CC company, where the transaction was made exactly, they can tell you such things, they can pinpoint to the nearest location, if it was web based, store based, etc, and which company the transaction was from. They can also contact the said company for the information of the client. (although that may take longer then just a day to do, and they probably won't tell you the details, even criminals have privacy protection...)
Then, you should do a FULL scan of your computer, with every kind of security software you can, virus, spyware, adware, firewall, trojan etc, and look into your firewall logs, your router logs, etc... look for anything that sticks out.
Then if it does appear to be CCP based, contact them securly via the support pages, email etc, dont expect them to be posting about that kind of situation in a forum. Privacy is key.
Sorry to hear you had this problem though it is a fact that ID fraud, CC fraud etc are climing rapidly, whilst the means to catching such things are climing much slower.
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