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Xune
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.10.21 12:23:00 -
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Actualy i dont like this changes at all. Considering.
- The time you have to invest to use them effectivly. A lot of those who dedicated themself to Carriers or motherships spent a lot of time getting carrier 5 fighter 5 jdc5 and so on. After the changes we will pretty much " loose" a lot of invested skillpoints if the gang we are in is not able to use up all the resources we could provide. So no more small 2 People gangs with Carrier or mom support. No, more blobing.
- Considering the overall performance of eve is much more likly to loose Fighters if you have to spread them out even more then you do now. More people = more chanche of desinc lag, and so on. Causing the fighters to idle or simply be shot down before they can be send back for repairs.
- A lot of people complain about Carriers and Moterships are already to hard to kill. Now they will get impossible to kill, thers no reason to keep them in gride to the battle at all. Simply let them jump between safespots and take a short break if some one needs to be repped up. Ther will be no need for spider-tanks or alike. Dreads in siege cant be repped. And ther wont be any need for the carriers or moms in gride.
-Remote Ecm burst. While i havent seen them used much lately i guesse this changes, combined with the overall reduction in combat effectivity of Motherships will be used even less.
Titans and doomsday was a kind of crowd controll against lots of small targets till they got nerfed. And now we see again that a lot of people complain about carriers. Why ? well its easy to tell isent it ? They not reached the step where some older but less people are. So they do what they can best, cry for nerf. And we will see more of those cry¦s the further the game evoles. As soon as they reach the step we have now, they will think its unfair that ther now nerved Carriers and Motherships lose to >insert what ever you want< and cry for a nerv anew. Moterships and Carriers are not broken. Why should we break them now and spin the will of " bring 100 people more then they have and we win" anew ? its already bad enough.
Xune
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Xune
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.10.22 12:19:00 -
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Originally by: Dav Varan Another route to making them more vulnerable without support would be to remove there Invulnerability to all known forms of ecm.
Give carriers 100 sensor strength and MS 200 sensor strength. Remove there invulnerbility to warp scrambling too give them -2 warp core strength instead.
Now its much more dangerous to use an MS without a support fleet without having to program all the extra code for limiting fighters , which lets face it is gonna be riddled with bugs when it arrives anyway.
Obviusly you have no idear what your talking about. the Ecm system, as broken as it is since ccp¦s overly loving " we change things that are not broken" where never a real problem, talking about ECM modules here.
Put 2 sensordampeners on a mnaulus and hit a Carrier with it, then my friend you got a problem. You cant even fit enough sensorbooster on a carrier to prevet a 20k sp toon to damp you, rendering you complete and utterly usless.
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Xune
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.10.23 17:41:00 -
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Facts from the testserver
Carriers got 125 mb/s uplink
Drone controll units dont raise uplink
Fighters and heavy drones tech2 take 25 mb/s each
You cant launche more fighters if you delegated them. even if yous end all 5 to some one else you cant launch more.
You COULD launche up to 25 light drones tech1 tough.
If THIS is how ccp wants to make the game i vote with my wallet.
2 Acounts canceld, running out in 20 day¦s
Xune
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Xune
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.10.23 17:57:00 -
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Edited by: Xune on 23/10/2007 17:57:16 Subscription Status: Cancelled Will be suspended29.10.2007 Cancel Subscription Cancellation Expires: 29.10.2007 12:13:25 Remaining Playtime: 5d:18h:24m
I vote with my wallet ! do the same
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Xune
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.10.23 21:15:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Abathur Update - We've been working hard to address your concerns. There will be a new dev blog up very soon which should hopefully clarify things a bit. Hang in there, guys and gals.
I want your response to this. Why did you activly lied to us ? just to keep us silent ? or did you simply not know which would be allso somewhat shocking.
[qoute]Originally by: Xune --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Originally by: CCP Abathur -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Edited by: CCP Abathur on 23/10/2007 18:40:56
Ladies and Gentlemen, this has to do with the upcoming drone and fighter bandwidth and is not related to the delegation idea. The test server gets updated daily and as Trinity gets closer to release you will likely see a lot of things happening there. We are also working on an updated new dev blog to outline our concerns and plans for carriers. Please do not jump to conclusions and be patient. Thank you. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
This is a false information! This is a false information! This is a false information! This is a false information! Bandwith of an archon is exactly 125mb Light drones tech2 take 5 mb
ergo i should be able to start 10+3 Drones from carrier and 3 controll units since its NOT going over the Bandwith limitation of the carrier.
Actualy i can launche 8. which means 5 from my drone skill +1 each from Drone controll unit (tested without controll units 5 drones, with 1 controll unit 6 drones and so on)
So DONT lie into our faces saying its not the limitation or the removal of the drone/fighter add bonus from the carriers.
Ccp what exactly are your trying to do here ?[qoute]
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Xune
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.10.23 22:28:00 -
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Edited by: Xune on 23/10/2007 22:31:02 CCP Abathur Im stillw aiting for a response about this here... nothing to say ? no ? not a bit ? no one else ? you are trying to fool us ?.
I want your response to this. Why did you activly lied to us ? just to keep us silent ? or did you simply not know which would be allso somewhat shocking. Originally by: Xune Originally by: Xune --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Originally by: CCP Abathur -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Edited by: CCP Abathur on 23/10/2007 18:40:56
Ladies and Gentlemen, this has to do with the upcoming drone and fighter bandwidth and is not related to the delegation idea. The test server gets updated daily and as Trinity gets closer to release you will likely see a lot of things happening there. We are also working on an updated new dev blog to outline our concerns and plans for carriers. Please do not jump to conclusions and be patient. Thank you. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
This is a false information! This is a false information! This is a false information! This is a false information! Bandwith of an archon is exactly 125mb Light drones tech2 take 5 mb
ergo i should be able to start 10+3 Drones from carrier and 3 controll units since its NOT going over the Bandwith limitation of the carrier.
Actualy i can launche 8. which means 5 from my drone skill +1 each from Drone controll unit (tested without controll units 5 drones, with 1 controll unit 6 drones and so on)
So DONT lie into our faces saying its not the limitation or the removal of the drone/fighter add bonus from the carriers.
Ccp what exactly are your trying to do here ?
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Xune
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.10.23 22:36:00 -
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Originally by: JonVe
Originally by: Cadela Fria
Originally by: Myal Terego
Quote: We are still monitoring this thread and reading the ideas that come up in it. We will, as previously stated, keep you up to date on any kind of progress.
A noob that can't even fly a carrier/MS decides if its overpowered or not???? Get your character in a carrier or even an MS and come to 0.0. There you will see how "overpowered" these ships are. I bet you won't survive a single week in your "sologankmobile".
I second this sentiment...I dare you, come to our space CCP, bring 20 carriers...or 20 motherships if you must, I guarentee you, we will kill every single one of them.
I would pay to see this.
i pay to be a part of it !
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Xune
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.10.23 22:52:00 -
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Edited by: Xune on 23/10/2007 22:53:29
Originally by: Arctur Gestator 22:44:59 Hint You don't have enough bandwidth to launch Firbolg. You need 0.0 Mbit/s but Firbolg requires 25.0 Mbit/s.
I wanted to lauch 6th firbolg ( carrier lvl5 reached )
So nerf is alive in singularity
Slowly i get frustrated is anyone actualy LISTENING to what i say ? its not the bandwith its already hardcapped ! you cant even launce more warriors then you got Droneskill and drone modules active ! read the damm post i made after testing for an hour and proving that CCP Abathur lied to us
LINK
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Xune
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.10.24 06:12:00 -
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Originally by: Helison
Originally by: Xune Edited by: Xune on 23/10/2007 22:31:02 CCP Abathur Im stillw aiting for a response about this here... nothing to say ? no ? not a bit ? no one else ? you are trying to fool us ?.
I want your response to this. Why did you activly lied to us ? just to keep us silent ? or did you simply not know which would be allso somewhat shocking. Originally by: Xune Originally by: Xune --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Originally by: CCP Abathur -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Edited by: CCP Abathur on 23/10/2007 18:40:56
Ladies and Gentlemen, this has to do with the upcoming drone and fighter bandwidth and is not related to the delegation idea. The test server gets updated daily and as Trinity gets closer to release you will likely see a lot of things happening there. We are also working on an updated new dev blog to outline our concerns and plans for carriers. Please do not jump to conclusions and be patient. Thank you. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
This is a false information! This is a false information! This is a false information! This is a false information! Bandwith of an archon is exactly 125mb Light drones tech2 take 5 mb
ergo i should be able to start 10+3 Drones from carrier and 3 controll units since its NOT going over the Bandwith limitation of the carrier.
Actualy i can launche 8. which means 5 from my drone skill +1 each from Drone controll unit (tested without controll units 5 drones, with 1 controll unit 6 drones and so on)
So DONT lie into our faces saying its not the limitation or the removal of the drone/fighter add bonus from the carriers.
Ccp what exactly are your trying to do here ?
I just checked this on Sisi, and I have no problems to launch 12 Hammerhead II from my Carrier (with 4 drone control units).
I don¦t like the nerf myself, but please get first your facts correct before attacking Devs.
I tested it, 4 other people tested it and gave me the same feedback. A bug with the archon itself then ?
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