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Druadan
Gallente Aristotle Enterprises Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2007.10.23 18:54:00 -
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Originally by: Cyan Nuevo I hope all of you threatening to cancel your accounts actually do. I am totally disgusted to even be associated with this "community" right now.
Grow up?
Pot. Kettle. Black. You've been posting **** all through this thread with no intention but to rile us up with your nonsense.
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Law Enforcer
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Posted - 2007.10.23 18:54:00 -
[2252]
Originally by: CCP Zulupark
Originally by: Kerfira Edited by: Kerfira on 23/10/2007 16:07:29 Edited by: Kerfira on 23/10/2007 16:06:03
Originally by: CCP Zulupark We are still monitoring this thread and reading the ideas posts we agree with that come up in it. We will, as previously stated, keep you up to date on any kind of progress when we implement this.
Corrected this for you. Eris made that fact plain for all to see.....
"Cleverly" changing my post to make some point I'm not quite sure of what is will not change the fact that we are still monitoring this thread and listening to all ideas/complaints you have.
bullcrap. that's why after 86? pages of people screaming NO this garbage went to the test server. you really listen to us.
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burning raven
omen. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.10.23 18:55:00 -
[2253]
hey i just had a thought, one good thing that would come with this change is i wouldnt have to pay to keep my account with just 3 cyno alts active! woop woop
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1Of9
Gallente The Circle STYX.
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Posted - 2007.10.23 18:55:00 -
[2254]
:(((((( it's on sisi already ffs!
CCP dont listen to his clients.
My favorite game ever .. lost to stupidity!
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Molly Neuro
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Posted - 2007.10.23 18:59:00 -
[2255]
Originally by: breadcat
Originally by: Haakelen
Originally by: breadcat
Originally by: Robet Katrix
Originally by: breadcat whine whine whine.......seriously just lol.....make some constructive suggestions instead.
why? they put it on SiSi anyways
so it's not like they can't change it with the next patch.
When was the last time something was fixed in this game?
look up some patchnotes...
Are you astroturfing or just randomly trolling?
Either way, look up the many constructive suggestions in this thread. Rubies amongst cowpats no doubt - but still there.....
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Idara
Caldari Contraband Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.10.23 18:59:00 -
[2256]
Someone FRAPs a Rorqual vs Carrier fight please. ---
in EVE - Idara |
Haakelen
Gallente United Forces Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2007.10.23 18:59:00 -
[2257]
Edited by: Haakelen on 23/10/2007 19:00:38
Originally by: Mersault > but keep the carrier at a decent level of damage.
I think the whole point is to dramatically reduce the damage a Carrier pilot can do without assigning Fighters. How far that reduction goes remains to be seen. Maybe we will be able to control large numbers of small drones, less med, less heavy. Less Fighters.
Reread the blog.
Originally by: CCP Zulupark Not only do we want to limit the amount of fighters you can launch, but also the amount of drones! Yes, we want to limit carriers and motherships just like other ships, i.e. they should only be able to field 5 regular drones at any given time.
The goal is apparently to make carriers suck so horribly nobody wants to fly them, and to lose their playerbase.
Originally by: SirMolly
Originally by: Tobias Sjodin Not since the t20-anger has the EVE community been so united over one topic, and seeing how CCP dealt with that one properly, we can all relax and trust CCP to do the right thing.
Wait a minute...
So, now the community consists of Carrier/MS pilots only ?
You don't seem to realize that if they'll do this to carriers they'll do it to any other ship type. Maybe eventually destroying one you actually like.
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Kerfira
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Posted - 2007.10.23 19:01:00 -
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Edited by: Kerfira on 23/10/2007 19:03:19 The accounts they'll loose on this will be some of the most active ones, belonging to a relatively small part of the overall player-base.
All in all, it'll mean they'll have to spend on average less money on servers per player, they'll not need to keep older players with new content, they'll not have to contend with older players who know better than they how the game works, some lag issues may solve themselves, and they think they'll have an easier time attracting new players.
It probably makes sense from a financial point of view, but I still see it as a totally ****ty way to treat those loyal customers who've provided their wages and pay for years....
Still hoping they'll come to their senses, but unfortunately I don't think so
PS: 4 accounts (not gone yet, but waiting....)
Originally by: CCP Wrangler EVE isn't designed to just look like a cold, dark and harsh world, it's designed to be a cold, dark and harsh world.
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Aleric Vikyz
Shadow Of The Light R i s e
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Posted - 2007.10.23 19:01:00 -
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I'd like to add to my last post...
Subscription Status: Cancelled
And...
Subscription Status:Active Cancellation Pending (Boy, the billing servers must be working overtime)
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Grainsalt
Free Corp
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Posted - 2007.10.23 19:01:00 -
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Devs just don't listen do they?
We are thinking of changing something...
No..
It's on SISI..
What they actually meant was ... We are gonna pretend to listen but do it anyway. If it does go ahead, my alt accounts are to be cancelled (on GTCs atm). Thank you and goodnight. ---
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=554257
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Coolgamer
Minmatar Res Publica R i s e
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Posted - 2007.10.23 19:02:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Abathur Edited by: CCP Abathur on 23/10/2007 18:40:56
Ladies and Gentlemen, this has to do with the upcoming drone and fighter bandwidth and is not related to the delegation idea. The test server gets updated daily and as Trinity gets closer to release you will likely see a lot of things happening there. We are also working on an updated new dev blog to outline our concerns and plans for carriers. Please do not jump to conclusions and be patient. Thank you.
i'm usually cautious with annoucement :p i will reactivate accounts *possibly* after seeing that new dev blog
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Icome4u
Caldari Dark and Light inc. D-L
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Posted - 2007.10.23 19:04:00 -
[2262]
Originally by: SirMolly
Originally by: Icome4u
Originally by: CCP Abathur Edited by: CCP Abathur on 23/10/2007 18:40:56
Ladies and Gentlemen, this has to do with the upcoming drone and fighter bandwidth and is not related to the delegation idea. The test server gets updated daily and as Trinity gets closer to release you will likely see a lot of things happening there. We are also working on an updated new dev blog to outline our concerns and plans for carriers. Please do not jump to conclusions and be patient. Thank you.
Not good enough. All 3 cancelation still pending. Ball is in your court CCP, you have A LOT of angry customers.
And a lot of customers that are actually satisfied with the comming change. "Capital Ships Online" ftl.
Well if they want the minority (someone stated it was 0.5% or 5% of the community that want this to happen) to be happy then good for you. CCP will lose a couple thousand players and probably end up like SWG (that would be dead fyi).
Also impersonating someone else is a violation of the EULA. Maybe you should look into that before you get your account ban.
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can'you'see'me
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Posted - 2007.10.23 19:05:00 -
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**** you, you ******* bunch of ******* morons why dont you **** off and pick flowers for blizzard you ******* carebears.
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Angela Toren
Amarr Toren Shipyards
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Posted - 2007.10.23 19:06:00 -
[2264]
Originally by: Aleric Vikyz I'd like to add to my last post...
Subscription Status: Cancelled
Dude...he said it was an idea. ________________
Originally by: CCP Prism
Personaly I wouldn't touch an 80 page disaster with a 10 foot pole..
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Wil Smithx
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Posted - 2007.10.23 19:06:00 -
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this seems like some dumbass office dare man, picture this:
dev1: hey i dare you to nerf carriers so they only have 5 drones dev2: omg lol, think how many people we would **** off... dev1: rofl go on, do it dev2: lol, ok :P hey everybody, wait till you hear this, we're going to be nerfing carriers and motherships so they only have 5 drones dev3: omg lol, bets on how many pages the thread is
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Salia Deluri
Cirrius Technologies O X I D E
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Posted - 2007.10.23 19:08:00 -
[2266]
5 accounts in limbo waiting on what you will do.
Code of Deluri Grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I cannot accept, and the wisdom to hide the bodies of those people I had to kill today. |
OMEGA 8473
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Posted - 2007.10.23 19:08:00 -
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Expires:01.12.2007 18:03:00
as I said earlier in this tread ... they are going to make Hello Kitty Online out of our beloved EVE :(
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SirMolly
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Posted - 2007.10.23 19:08:00 -
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Edited by: SirMolly on 23/10/2007 19:08:38
Originally by: Icome4u
Originally by: SirMolly
Originally by: Icome4u
Originally by: CCP Abathur Edited by: CCP Abathur on 23/10/2007 18:40:56
Ladies and Gentlemen, this has to do with the upcoming drone and fighter bandwidth and is not related to the delegation idea. The test server gets updated daily and as Trinity gets closer to release you will likely see a lot of things happening there. We are also working on an updated new dev blog to outline our concerns and plans for carriers. Please do not jump to conclusions and be patient. Thank you.
Not good enough. All 3 cancelation still pending. Ball is in your court CCP, you have A LOT of angry customers.
And a lot of customers that are actually satisfied with the comming change. "Capital Ships Online" ftl.
Well if they want the minority (someone stated it was 0.5% or 5% of the community that want this to happen) to be happy then good for you. CCP will lose a couple thousand players and probably end up like SWG (that would be dead fyi).
And where do you get those numbers from ?
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Max Teranous
Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.10.23 19:08:00 -
[2269]
Originally by: CCP Abathur Edited by: CCP Abathur on 23/10/2007 18:40:56
Ladies and Gentlemen, this has to do with the upcoming drone and fighter bandwidth and is not related to the delegation idea. The test server gets updated daily and as Trinity gets closer to release you will likely see a lot of things happening there. We are also working on an updated new dev blog to outline our concerns and plans for carriers. Please do not jump to conclusions and be patient. Thank you.
Well i suggest that he chop chop's and gets it written and posted, because the way this is currently being handled is completely shocking.
Max
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Mr ZER0
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.10.23 19:08:00 -
[2270]
PUT IN SYSTEM WIDE BELTS!!!!!
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Miriyana
Gallente Legions of Derek
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Posted - 2007.10.23 19:09:00 -
[2271]
Originally by: CCP Abathur Edited by: CCP Abathur on 23/10/2007 18:40:56
Ladies and Gentlemen, this has to do with the upcoming drone and fighter bandwidth and is not related to the delegation idea. The test server gets updated daily and as Trinity gets closer to release you will likely see a lot of things happening there. We are also working on an updated new dev blog to outline our concerns and plans for carriers. Please do not jump to conclusions and be patient. Thank you.
If this change goes forward I wont renew sub either. - - - - - - Change just leads to more problems
Originally by: CCP Wrangler Oh please no, I've had enough with real world taxes, and dealing with the tax agency. No more taxes!!
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Lowbridge
Caldari Empirius Enigmus Navy Dark Matter Coalition
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Posted - 2007.10.23 19:09:00 -
[2272]
Why are you doing this to paying players that have spent the better part of 1 1/2 years training for this ship to totaly change how this ship is used in the game. Please think this through completely before you move forward with this change
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Tulas Flint
Amarr Seraphin Technologies Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.10.23 19:12:00 -
[2273]
Originally by: SirMolly
Originally by: Tobias Sjodin Not since the t20-anger has the EVE community been so united over one topic, and seeing how CCP dealt with that one properly, we can all relax and trust CCP to do the right thing.
Wait a minute...
So, now the community consists of Carrier/MS pilots only ?
not only to carrier/moms also for our Titan pilots ... with the nerf the titans complete out of game coz carrier/moms cant protect themselve ... how they will protect a titan without firepower ?!
Cancellation Pending Expires: 16. November 2007
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Vily
Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.10.23 19:12:00 -
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Edited by: Vily on 23/10/2007 19:13:36 the really sad thing is how quickly it will kill EVE.
people dont seem to realize that these aren't your average customers who will be cancelling their subscriptions.
For anyone schooled in business that understands the 80/20 principle. ( that 80% of your business comes from 20% of your customers) this is that 20% and they are telling you to stop now.
many many alliances will dissapear, directors, CEO's, trainers etc. will dissappear because their long term interest in this game is gone.
it will be Star wars Galaxies all over again. -
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ElvenLord
4S Corporation Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.10.23 19:12:00 -
[2275]
Edited by: ElvenLord on 23/10/2007 19:13:19
Originally by: CCP Abathur Edited by: CCP Abathur on 23/10/2007 18:40:56
Ladies and Gentlemen, this has to do with the upcoming drone and fighter bandwidth and is not related to the delegation idea. The test server gets updated daily and as Trinity gets closer to release you will likely see a lot of things happening there. We are also working on an updated new dev blog to outline our concerns and plans for carriers. Please do not jump to conclusions and be patient. Thank you.
You want to say that you decided that carriers/MS (being the ships that deploy bigger number of drones/fighters) have the same bandwidth as a BS?????? And now we also have marauders that will be impossible to kill with a 3 times bigger ship?? So now we are making carriers/MS in just useless junk floating in space, that can sometimes be used as haulers, Why do we need t1/t2 freighters and rorquals????
Can you just delete carriers/MS and drones from the data base in any way, return us (all players) our billions of ISK and millions of SP and get over it.
pls explain how did you get this brilliant idea that BS and capital ships (in this case a drone carrier) should have the same bandwidth?
It seems to me that you are deliberately trying to reduce lag by reducing number of players. You have certainly convinced me.
That will be 9 acc less for you and a nice lawsuit. Tnx again.
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Law Enforcer
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Posted - 2007.10.23 19:14:00 -
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Originally by: Lowbridge Why are you doing this to paying players that have spent the better part of 1 1/2 years training for this ship to totaly change how this ship is used in the game. Please think this through completely before you move forward with this change
because a noob should be able to kill you with all his noob friends and when a group of noobies can't kill you then said ship you're flying must be unbalanced and in need of a nerf.
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IceForce
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Posted - 2007.10.23 19:14:00 -
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if this gows live then i'm going to finde a nother game this is totaly out of line i'm flying a carrier just to see all of thow's drons going and popoing the target having 5 drons is like flying a BS well ... still if the carrier get nerf 3 accounts will be canceld
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Anton March
United Space Republic
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Posted - 2007.10.23 19:15:00 -
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Originally by: ElvenLord
Can you just delete carriers/MS and drones from the data base in any way, return us (all players) our billions of ISK and millions of SP and get over it.
I don't want my SP and ISK back, I want my $150 back for the past 10 months that I've been training nothing but carrier related skills.
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Vily
Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.10.23 19:15:00 -
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Originally by: Law Enforcer
Originally by: Lowbridge Why are you doing this to paying players that have spent the better part of 1 1/2 years training for this ship to totaly change how this ship is used in the game. Please think this through completely before you move forward with this change
because a noob should be able to kill you with all his noob friends and when a group of noobies can't kill you then said ship you're flying must be unbalanced and in need of a nerf.
the truly sad thing is 10 t1 cruisers can easily kill a carrier. AS IT STANDS CURRENTLY -
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Cadela Fria
Amarr Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.10.23 19:16:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Abathur Edited by: CCP Abathur on 23/10/2007 18:40:56 Ladies and Gentlemen, this has to do with the upcoming drone and fighter bandwidth and is not related to the delegation idea. The test server gets updated daily and as Trinity gets closer to release you will likely see a lot of things happening there. We are also working on an updated new dev blog to outline our concerns and plans for carriers. Please do not jump to conclusions and be patient. Thank you.
Good Sir, I mean no disrespect. In fact, I mean what I am about to say, in the nicest way possible:
Your bandwidth change just happens to knock both Carriers AND Motherships down to using 5 fighters at a time, even after you fit 5 drone control units. Now the blog posted by mr. Zulupark states the following:
Originally by: Zulupark
We plan on changing the way fighters work, and have it so that you can still launch all the fighters you want (within limits of your ship/skills) but you can only directly control 5 of them at a time. That means that a carrier/mothership can launch 5 fighters, assign them to a gang mate, launch 5 more, assign them to another gang mate etc. etc.
This means you will NOT be able to launch 20 fighters from a mothership and send them all to incinerate a battleship in .2 seconds. It does however mean that you can assign 5 fighters to each of your lil‘ friends in the fleet and send them forth to be the messengers of your burning fury.
Remember, we‘re not messing with the final total amount of fighters you can launch and delegate, just the amount you can control and delegate at a time. You can of course also launch 5 fighters and make them attack a target of your own choice, if it pleases you.
Now you tell me it's pure coincidental that right now, with the bandwidth, Carriers and Motherships are completely and utterly broken on SiSi and only able to use 5 fighters. Somehow though, even mr. Zulupark's blog mentions this deal with 5 fighters max and what not, like it's a seperate thing.
Seperate? Ah but I doubt it..because HERE IT IS! SiSi, in all it's glory and splendour, portraying EXACTLY what mr. Zuluspark spoke of.
HOWEVER! In your infinite wisdom, along comes this idea, which would at this stage of the broken carriers and motherships, BOOST them, as they would yet again be able launch their fighters, as they'd delegate, launch, delegate, launch etc.
A kind of, how shall I say..relief, and salvation to the afforementioned issue. Your "idea" quite frankly boosts the carrier and mothership, taking the current bandwidth "feature" on SiSi into consideration. Clever move. Now you tell me this is pure coincidence...
No, you know what ? I would like to request a formal, or informal if you so wish, response as to how you, or any other CCP developer involved in this case, what they think this looks like..Take a good look at it. I will not become a conspiracy theorist, however I will present this to you, and I will let you decide for yourself CCP, and players included aswell.
Goodday *tips hat*
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