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tracykins
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Posted - 2007.10.24 15:49:00 -
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Edited by: tracykins on 24/10/2007 15:49:27 Does anyone else think this is a little silly?
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Lord Matrix
Department of War
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Posted - 2007.10.24 15:52:00 -
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Post with modules and we'll see.
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Bomerang
Dai Dai Hai
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Posted - 2007.10.24 15:55:00 -
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Edited by: Bomerang on 24/10/2007 15:56:37
Originally by: tracykins Edited by: tracykins on 24/10/2007 15:49:27 Does anyone else think this is a little silly?
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Nope, this is just fine.. Buff poor Caldari as they don't have PvP ships and nerf carriers because they are uber solomachines. Edit: That ship should be able to tank 3 carriers btw..
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Selena 001
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Posted - 2007.10.24 15:56:00 -
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A Drake with 15.5K shields... nothing spectacular really.
And using 'Effective HP' regen isnÆt the same as using normal shield regen. No where near the same
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Tarminic
Black Flame Industries
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Posted - 2007.10.24 15:56:00 -
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Originally by: Bomerang
Originally by: tracykins Edited by: tracykins on 24/10/2007 15:49:27 Does anyone else think this is a little silly?
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Nope, this is just fine.. Buff poor Caldari as they don't have PvP ships and nerf carriers because they are uber solomachines.
Please leave that out of this, please. I'm begging you. ---------------- Tarminic - 29 million SP in Forum Warfare Originally by: CCP Wrangler Booooo!!! Tarminic sux!!!
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Tobias Sjodin
Ore Mongers R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.10.24 16:05:00 -
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Edited by: Tobias Sjodin on 24/10/2007 16:05:56
Originally by: tracykins Edited by: tracykins on 24/10/2007 15:49:27 Does anyone else think this is a little silly?
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Estamel's Invulnerability fields and other officer mods aren't exactly cheap. And seeing as one medium neutralizer would disable them so you would die rather easily, and then lose billions in mods, that's rather balanced.
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14882
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Posted - 2007.10.24 16:07:00 -
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of course those numbers are entirely theoretical...but this, to me, is the reason why the myrmidon should not be the only ship to be nerfed...
with the new bandwidth the harb, hurricane, and myrmidon will be very balanced...and the drake will tank capital firepower...
what's that? you can't fit a warp disruptor+webber+EW with this fitting? you're indestructible to any other ship in your class, as well as most anything else...deal with it
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Buyerr
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Posted - 2007.10.24 16:08:00 -
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if your saying it is a shield regain on 1k+ per sec, there is a fault in your calculation. max a drake can get is 4-500 shield rec per sec.
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Malcanis
High4Life SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.24 16:11:00 -
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Originally by: 14882 of course those numbers are entirely theoretical...but this, to me, is the reason why the myrmidon should not be the only ship to be nerfed...
with the new bandwidth the harb, hurricane, and myrmidon will be very balanced...and the drake will tank capital firepower...
what's that? you can't fit a warp disruptor+webber+EW with this fitting? you're indestructible to any other ship in your class, as well as most anything else...deal with it
Fine. And when the Drake gets +10% per skill level damage and speed on all missiles, that'll be a problem.
or do you advocate the Myrmidon only getting +5%/level damage with Gallante Drones?
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Tarminic
Black Flame Industries
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Posted - 2007.10.24 16:12:00 -
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Originally by: 14882 of course those numbers are entirely theoretical...but this, to me, is the reason why the myrmidon should not be the only ship to be nerfed...
with the new bandwidth the harb, hurricane, and myrmidon will be very balanced...and the drake will tank capital firepower...
what's that? you can't fit a warp disruptor+webber+EW with this fitting? you're indestructible to any other ship in your class, as well as most anything else...deal with it
So without knowing if these numbers are even real, nevermind achieved with reasonably-priced fittings, this is a reason to nerf the drake? ---------------- Tarminic - 29 million SP in Forum Warfare Originally by: CCP Wrangler Booooo!!! Tarminic sux!!!
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Buyerr
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Posted - 2007.10.24 16:14:00 -
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Originally by: 14882 of course those numbers are entirely theoretical...but this, to me, is the reason why the myrmidon should not be the only ship to be nerfed...
with the new bandwidth the harb, hurricane, and myrmidon will be very balanced...and the drake will tank capital firepower...
what's that? you can't fit a warp disruptor+webber+EW with this fitting? you're indestructible to any other ship in your class, as well as most anything else...deal with it
sigh.... if you 5bill+ fit those other bc's they will tank ******** capital pilots, without there fleet support, too... 1-2 people as fleet support (as some one mentioned one neutraliser and your DEAD!) and you just lost yourself the price of 5 carriers +
(ps. no it cannot tank 3 carriers, maybe if these numbers where correct and the carrier pilot was a total ****** it would be able to tank ONE ! in a 1v1 but ofcause it would still die quite quickly. )
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Delichon
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.10.24 17:00:00 -
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Post with mods and implants.
If this fit is not made through photoshop - it requires a full set of crystals+gang warfare + faction tank + all to 5 character + tanked only against thermal/explosive damage.
On top of that - it deals less than 300 DPS, which means that it is useless, unless somebody knows how to get in the way of shells and laser beams to protect gangmates.
C'mon there is nothing to be scarred at, post with mods.
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Disco Flint
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.10.24 17:08:00 -
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Edited by: Disco Flint on 24/10/2007 17:09:15
Originally by: tracykins Edited by: tracykins on 24/10/2007 15:49:27 Does anyone else think this is a little silly?
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Officer Invuls / Extenders? That's like 6-10b right there in your midslots. I'd expect anything to devote 6-10b to its tank to be quite... sturdy. And yes, any other ship using similar amounts of ISK and slots will field an equally impressive tank.
Oh, and just for ****s and giggles: click me
Defense efficiency is set for 100% explosive damage btw... uniform would be around 3k
edit: d'oh, forgot implants, but yeah, you get the idea.
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Pirate Tom
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Posted - 2007.10.24 17:15:00 -
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actually that's really easy to do. Especially if you set EFT to have the tanking values specific to one damage type.
after reading this I had a drake tanking 3359 dps kinetic damage... 'OMG look at the tank' means nothing if we dont' see the tank as well.
Incidently I was using 3 purger 1 rigs 3 pith xtype hardeners (kinetic) 2 LSEII's 1 PDU(S) II 1 Shield Recharger II
makes a wonderful theory based tank, don't it? until the badguys shoot something other than kinetic at you.
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Avon
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.10.24 17:26:00 -
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OP must try harder. If you want to go for extreme fits you can get a vulture to 5k dps (effective) passive shield tank.
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Aceoil
Murder-Death-Kill
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Posted - 2007.10.24 17:31:00 -
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Highest I can get is 3140 with uniform damage.
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Pirate Tom
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Posted - 2007.10.24 17:38:00 -
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Aye, it's easy to do. Impractical, expensive, and will make the laughing stock of anyone who knows what you did, as well as turning you into the #1 most wanted list for all the suicide gankers, low sec pirates and anyone who might want a couple of your modules.
As mythbusters would say.. Plausible, but busted for all practical uses.
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Dez Affinity
Ore Mongers R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.10.24 17:51:00 -
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Edited by: Dez Affinity on 24/10/2007 17:51:46 NeRf ThE cLaYmOrE lUlZ!!!
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Xaen
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2007.10.24 18:14:00 -
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Originally by: tracykins Edited by: tracykins on 24/10/2007 15:49:27 Does anyone else think this is a little silly?
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So wrong in so many ways... Shields don't do damage so there is no DPS. I assume you mean regen HP/s so I'll go with that HP regen per second is actually found by hovering over the shield icon under hitpoints. Making big numbers appear under defense is easy and relatively meaningless without explaination. --
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Pirate Tom
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Posted - 2007.10.24 18:17:00 -
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what is it with you dorks whiting out the module names from the screenshots. You act like you're protecting top secret information or something.
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Pottsey
Enheduanni Foundation
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Posted - 2007.10.24 19:16:00 -
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Edited by: Pottsey on 24/10/2007 19:16:59 Certain Gallante ships can break 1000 HP/s regen they always did have more regen but less resitance then Caldari ships.
3000dps tanks ships are possible I used to use one my self while soloing a certain semi hidden complex with my Eos while useing drones to kill. Cost just over 2 billion on resistance modules.
ôAnd seeing as one medium neutralizer would disable them so you would die rather easily, and then lose billions in mods, that's rather balanced.ö They donÆt always disable them. They turn them into passive module which still boost resistance.
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Neon Genesis
The Landed Gentry
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Posted - 2007.10.24 19:17:00 -
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Originally by: tracykins Edited by: tracykins on 24/10/2007 15:49:27 Does anyone else think this is a little silly?
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'274 dps'
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Sokratesz
Paradox v2.0
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Posted - 2007.10.24 19:23:00 -
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Build me a drake that does not rely on cap at all, then come back.
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Zenobite
The Black Fleet
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Posted - 2007.10.24 20:42:00 -
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Edited by: Zenobite on 24/10/2007 20:42:00
Originally by: tracykins Edited by: tracykins on 24/10/2007 15:49:27 Does anyone else think this is a little silly?
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Yep nerf the drake, coz all us drake pilots have billions of isk to spend on a semi-passive setup that does no damage.
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