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Johnny Marzetti
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
225
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Posted - 2012.03.06 20:36:00 -
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Actually this was all just meant to lead to a punch line along the lines of "an in-game way for me to give someone a ride on my rocket" but I'm too bored to continue with this farce. |
Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord
1050
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Posted - 2012.03.06 21:30:00 -
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Johnny Marzetti wrote:Actually this was all just meant to lead to a punch line along the lines of "an in-game way for me to give someone a ride on my rocket" but I'm too bored to continue with this farce.
I will try and be more interesting in the future.
Issler Dainze The Miner's Friend CSM 7 Candidate
(keep working on that rocket ride.... I'm sure you will find someone in Eve that would take you up on that! ) |
Aedh Phelan
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord
2
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Posted - 2012.03.07 04:00:00 -
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She's my CEO. So, yes, I should have a high opinion of her. Otherwise, I should seek a beter CEO. She's never demanded we do anything we didn't have time or desire to do. Actually, she's never made a demand that was cogent to our membership except perhaps the fact that we exercise restraint and respect in our dealings with new players. She doesn't expect us to want what she wants. She only asks for our opinions and preferences, which she tries very hard to make a part of the fabric of Tada-O if it is not damaging to the corporation.
I support her candidacy for CSM7. I expect she will bring a similar model of communication in her representation of Empire needs to CSM7. More importantly, There absolutely needs to be members of the CSM that support the needs of the Empire player base beyond the ancilliary benefits generated by the nullsec power bloc agenda.
This affirmation, in no way suggests that I discount positive accomplishments made by members of CSM6, however, the significant weighting of the current membership toward the lowest security occupation combined with the highly aggressive nature of the power bloc forum trolls creates an environment in which no reasonable person should be expected to trust the CSM membership to properly represent all facets of the sandbox objectively.
Issler Dainze for CSM7. |
Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1767
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Posted - 2012.03.07 04:04:00 -
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Aedh Phelan wrote:This affirmation, in no way suggests that I discount positive accomplishments made by members of CSM6, however, the significant weighting of the current membership toward the lowest security occupation combined with the highly aggressive nature of the power bloc forum trolls creates an environment in which no reasonable person should be expected to trust the CSM membership to properly represent all facets of the sandbox objectively.
Yet CSM6 managed to represent all facets of the sandbox objectively without demanding things (like neglecting Eve gameplay for more WiS nonsense) that would be harmful to the future of the game.
The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
Aedh Phelan
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord
2
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Posted - 2012.03.07 04:29:00 -
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Ladie Harlot wrote:Aedh Phelan wrote:This affirmation, in no way suggests that I discount positive accomplishments made by members of CSM6, however, the significant weighting of the current membership toward the lowest security occupation combined with the highly aggressive nature of the power bloc forum trolls creates an environment in which no reasonable person should be expected to trust the CSM membership to properly represent all facets of the sandbox objectively. Yet CSM6 managed to represent all facets of the sandbox objectively without demanding things (like neglecting Eve gameplay for more WiS nonsense) that would be harmful to the future of the game.
IYHO and note: "highly aggressive nature of the power bloc forum trolls" |
Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1770
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Posted - 2012.03.07 05:31:00 -
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Aedh Phelan wrote:Ladie Harlot wrote:Aedh Phelan wrote:This affirmation, in no way suggests that I discount positive accomplishments made by members of CSM6, however, the significant weighting of the current membership toward the lowest security occupation combined with the highly aggressive nature of the power bloc forum trolls creates an environment in which no reasonable person should be expected to trust the CSM membership to properly represent all facets of the sandbox objectively. Yet CSM6 managed to represent all facets of the sandbox objectively without demanding things (like neglecting Eve gameplay for more WiS nonsense) that would be harmful to the future of the game. IYHO and note: "highly aggressive nature of the power bloc forum trolls"
Do you have any evidence of CSM6 doing something that was harmful to any group of people in Eve? I keep hearing how CSM6 was totally focused on nullsec issues and did horrible things to highsec dwellers but I have yet to see a single example of this. By watching what happened over the course of the year and reading the CSM minutes all I can see is a CSM that was good for all Eve players.
The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
Delici Feelgood
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
17
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Posted - 2012.03.07 05:48:00 -
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Ladie Harlot wrote:Aedh Phelan wrote:Ladie Harlot wrote:Aedh Phelan wrote:This affirmation, in no way suggests that I discount positive accomplishments made by members of CSM6, however, the significant weighting of the current membership toward the lowest security occupation combined with the highly aggressive nature of the power bloc forum trolls creates an environment in which no reasonable person should be expected to trust the CSM membership to properly represent all facets of the sandbox objectively. Yet CSM6 managed to represent all facets of the sandbox objectively without demanding things (like neglecting Eve gameplay for more WiS nonsense) that would be harmful to the future of the game. IYHO and note: "highly aggressive nature of the power bloc forum trolls" Do you have any evidence of CSM6 doing something that was harmful to any group of people in Eve? I keep hearing how CSM6 was totally focused on nullsec issues and did horrible things to highsec dwellers but I have yet to see a single example of this. By watching what happened over the course of the year and reading the CSM minutes all I can see is a CSM that was good for all Eve players.
"Neglet", encompasses a huge spectrum of harmfull failings in my book. It is not an unknown view of who or what certain individuals represent.
The Mittani wrote:Politics is about power and conflict. Some lie about it. I don't have to
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Every CSM represents their own constituents. Some have delusions about 'representing everyone'. I do not. |
Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1772
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Posted - 2012.03.07 06:02:00 -
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So you still can't come up with one example of how anybody playing Eve was hurt by CSM6?
The truth is, Issler, that everybody benefited from CSM6's work whether they voted for any of them or not. You're mad that they helped CCP see how much all the WiS nonsense was hurting the game and your entire candidacy is based on that but without the CSM's help during the Summer of Rage Eve would be a wasteland right now. No amount of sock puppets is going to change that.
The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
Delici Feelgood
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
17
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Posted - 2012.03.07 06:11:00 -
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Ladie Harlot wrote:So you still can't come up with one example of how anybody playing Eve was hurt by CSM6?
The truth is, Issler, that everybody benefited from CSM6's work whether they voted for any of them or not. You're mad that they helped CCP see how much all the WiS nonsense was hurting the game and your entire candidacy is based on that but without the CSM's help during the Summer of Rage Eve would be a wasteland right now. No amount of sock puppets is going to change that.
Which came first the chicken or the egg?
According to what the Mittani would like to have you think; the redirection of CCP due to Incarna had nothing to do in terms of player demonstrations or other more commercial influences like cancelled subs, even though CCP have attributed their U-turn on incarna to player interest. Or that the CSM used it for argument in the emergency summit:
CSM minutes wrote:The second leg of the session involved showing the CSM how Incarna was received in terms of subscriber numbers and trends as well as informing them of other business and analytics metrics.
Seems the point had been made even before the emergency summit as a result.
Logically you should be aware the CSM would not exist without revenue of course. And I doubt it's lost to many as to the relevance of income to a commerical company. |
Taiwanistan
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
186
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Posted - 2012.03.07 06:20:00 -
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yet issler is openly against the slow-burn state of wis development. she wants to squander more resources on wis, that is not acceptable to many players. wis: a roman orgy of all-you-can-eat social /dance o7m8 dressup, unrestrained do ask do tell out and proud at the space bar dollhouse, all the evolving new and exciting things you've ever wanted.
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Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord
1054
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Posted - 2012.03.07 08:26:00 -
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Taiwanistan wrote:yet issler is openly against the slow-burn state of wis development. she wants to squander more resources on wis, that is not acceptable to many players.
Your incorrect interpretation of my position.
I believe ambulation has the potential to grow Eve more than any other element in Eve. If you want to know what I really think about ambulation and find the largest thread in the new forums, sit down and read the nearly 200 pages and you will find many posts on where I think ambulation fits in the future of Eve, while you are reading that notice how many other players agree with me.
So thanks for the random goon snipe/bump.
Issler Dainze The Miner's Friend CSM 7 Candidate |
Taiwanistan
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
186
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Posted - 2012.03.07 12:35:00 -
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Issler Dainze wrote:Taiwanistan wrote:yet issler is openly against the slow-burn state of wis development. she wants to squander more resources on wis, that is not acceptable to many players. Your incorrect interpretation of my position. I believe ambulation has the potential to grow Eve more than any other element in Eve. If you want to know what I really think about ambulation and find the largest thread in the new forums, sit down and read the nearly 200 pages and you will find many posts on where I think ambulation fits in the future of Eve, while you are reading that notice how many other players agree with me. So thanks for the random goon snipe/bump. Issler Dainze The Miner's Friend CSM 7 Candidate
your reply misses the point completely. why are you repeating to me that you are the biggest wis supporter out there. in that 170 page thread, there are about as many against wis as there are for wis. also take a look at this thread https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=35996&p=14 this thread is less biased as the the subject is not "hey if you love wis come post here." that thread reflects more on what players generally want right now to make their eve gaming more enjoyable. yes you see some support for wis but for many other players wis is not even mentioned.
-wis is now on slow-burn: do you agree with this? yes or no
-team avatar is comprised of 5 dev staff members: you feel that more is needed? yes or no
-http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpcSGcqHtmc this is the official word from the CCP t0rfi the Art Director of Eve Online, listen to it, it outlines the direction of EVE as of now. if elected will you be working to shift full prioritization away from FIS? yes or no
-in the big 170 page thread you responded to the first announcement of Team Avatar with disappointment. and stated that it is your wish to have something out sooner rather than later, something like a corp meeting room, player ran establishments, even though it does not necessarily have meaning gameplay? yes or no
also i wonder why you seem to not be all "out and proud" with wis, not as you are with mining. wis: a roman orgy of all-you-can-eat social /dance o7m8 dressup, unrestrained do ask do tell out and proud at the space bar dollhouse, all the evolving new and exciting things you've ever wanted.
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Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
860
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Posted - 2012.03.07 17:17:00 -
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I have cast a vote for Issler Dainze . I will cast another every time this thread falls to page two.
Mr Epeen Me too!-á I ate one sour, too! |
Aquila Draco
141
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Posted - 2012.03.07 17:20:00 -
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Voted for you! :) |
Johnny Marzetti
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
234
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Posted - 2012.03.07 17:23:00 -
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Mr Epeen wrote:I have cast a vote for Issler Dainze . I will cast another every time this thread falls to page two. Mr Epeen
I'm happy to keep bumping this thread for you, Mystery Peen. Everyone needs to know that a vote for Issler is a vote for Player Out Of Pod.
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Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
861
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Posted - 2012.03.07 17:35:00 -
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Johnny Marzetti wrote:
I'm happy to keep bumping this thread ...
Keep fighting the good fight!
Mr Epeen
Me too!-á I ate one sour, too! |
Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1774
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Posted - 2012.03.07 17:43:00 -
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Issler Dainze wrote:sit down and read the nearly 200 pages and you will find many posts on where I think ambulation fits in the future of Eve, while you are reading that notice how many other players agree with me.
So thanks for the random goon snipe/bump.
Issler Dainze The Miner's Friend CSM 7 Candidate
You mean the thread where you insult a CCP developer who then posts that she can't believe people would be that hateful?
You've gone too far when you are spewing hate at the people working hard to make the game better for everybody. If you're elected to the CSM how are you planning on working with other CCP employees? The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
Johnny Marzetti
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
234
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Posted - 2012.03.07 17:49:00 -
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Ladie Harlot wrote:Issler Dainze wrote:sit down and read the nearly 200 pages and you will find many posts on where I think ambulation fits in the future of Eve, while you are reading that notice how many other players agree with me.
So thanks for the random goon snipe/bump.
Issler Dainze The Miner's Friend CSM 7 Candidate You mean the thread where you insult a CCP developer who then posts that she can't believe people would be that hateful? You've gone too far when you are spewing hate at the people working hard to make the game better for everybody. If you're elected to the CSM how are you planning on working with other CCP employees?
Whoa. I was avoiding that thread because I thought it'd be full of Playing Out Of Pod lovers but now I see it delivers on drama. Besides, nobody should be picking on the CCP staff who actually make things. They fight for the players!
Not cool, Issler, not cool.
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Snow Axe
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
77
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Posted - 2012.03.07 17:50:00 -
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Ladie Harlot wrote:You mean the thread where you insult a CCP developer who then posts that she can't believe people would be that hateful? You've gone too far when you are spewing hate at the people working hard to make the game better for everybody. If you're elected to the CSM how are you planning on working with other CCP employees?
"CCP IS STUPID FOR NOT DOING THINGS THE WAY I WOULD HAVE"
That's surely a voice that's going to be helpful on the CSM! |
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
861
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Posted - 2012.03.07 17:59:00 -
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Wow! Concerted goon attack.
Getting nervous, little bees?
A vote for Issler is a vote for all of EVE.
Mr Epeen Me too!-á I ate one sour, too! |
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Elanor Vega
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
128
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Posted - 2012.03.07 18:07:00 -
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WoW... Only all goons are against you. XD
well... i gave you my vote. and now when i see that all goons that are spiting or you, i am so happier with my decision.
keep up the good work!!! |
Johnny Marzetti
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
234
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Posted - 2012.03.07 18:15:00 -
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Please don't throw me into the briar patch. |
Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord
1058
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Posted - 2012.03.07 19:42:00 -
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Johnny Marzetti wrote:Please don't throw me into the briar patch.
I would never do that!
Issler |
Khaan M'noch
Fire of Eternity
0
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Posted - 2012.03.07 19:44:00 -
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You got my bear votes - good luck in the election! |
Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord
1058
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Posted - 2012.03.07 19:55:00 -
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Taiwanistan wrote:Issler Dainze wrote:Taiwanistan wrote:yet issler is openly against the slow-burn state of wis development. she wants to squander more resources on wis, that is not acceptable to many players. Your incorrect interpretation of my position. I believe ambulation has the potential to grow Eve more than any other element in Eve. If you want to know what I really think about ambulation and find the largest thread in the new forums, sit down and read the nearly 200 pages and you will find many posts on where I think ambulation fits in the future of Eve, while you are reading that notice how many other players agree with me. So thanks for the random goon snipe/bump. Issler Dainze The Miner's Friend CSM 7 Candidate your reply misses the point completely. why are you repeating to me that you are the biggest wis supporter out there. in that 170 page thread, there are about as many against wis as there are for wis. also take a look at this thread https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=35996&p=14 this thread is less biased as the the subject is not "hey if you love wis come post here." that thread reflects more on what players generally want right now to make their eve gaming more enjoyable. yes you see some support for wis but for many other players wis is not even mentioned. -wis is now on slow-burn: do you agree with this? yes or no -team avatar is comprised of 5 dev staff members: you feel that more is needed? yes or no - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpcSGcqHtmcthis is the official word from the CCP t0rfi the Art Director of Eve Online, listen to it, it outlines the direction of EVE as of now. if elected will you be working to shift full prioritization away from FIS? yes or no -in the big 170 page thread you responded to the first announcement of Team Avatar with disappointment. and stated that it is your wish to have something out sooner rather than later, something like a corp meeting room, player ran establishments, even though it does not necessarily have meaning gameplay? yes or no also i wonder why you seem to not be all "out and proud" with wis, not as you are with mining.
I am one of many supporters of ambulation.
I support enough attention on ambulation to have some sort of multi avatar per instance experience by the summer of 2013. I think that is more than slow burn.
The size of team avatar given the are also responsible for supporting what we have already is to small to get to the goal I just stated. So yes, the announcement for me was disappointing.
Mining is more important to me right now than ambulation and I think we can get more traction with CCP for mining improvements. To say I'm not talking "out and proud" about ambulation is beyond wrong. I talk about it as much as anyone in Eve.
I would like to see smaller incremental deliveries ambulation if it means we see something sooner rather than later. Many folks seem to agree.
Issler Dainze The Miner's Friend CSM 7 Candidate (the only one that supports giving Team Avatar more resources!)
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Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord
1058
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Posted - 2012.03.07 20:01:00 -
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There was an issue with parsing this post's BBCode |
Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord
1058
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Posted - 2012.03.07 20:02:00 -
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Ladie Harlot wrote:Issler Dainze wrote:sit down and read the nearly 200 pages and you will find many posts on where I think ambulation fits in the future of Eve, while you are reading that notice how many other players agree with me.
So thanks for the random goon snipe/bump.
Issler Dainze The Miner's Friend CSM 7 Candidate .......Lot's more Laddy Marmot gibberish.........
I have great respect for the developers at CCP. If you actually paid any attention my issue is with what I view as a team with divided focus and starved for the necessary resources to succeed. This is an issue with management decisions, not the developers.
Did you ever finish counting the pro and con posts in the WiS thread? Did you tally by poster? Is it really true you posted 97.3% of the anti-WiS theads and that every one of your posts contained a reference to "pants" or "space barbies"?
You can make any ridiculous claims you want, but no one actually believes you. But the thread bumps are nice, keep it up.
Issler Dainze A Fan of the Developers of Eve! |
Carl Thunderthise
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
14
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Posted - 2012.03.07 20:44:00 -
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Ladie Harlot wrote:Aedh Phelan wrote:This affirmation, in no way suggests that I discount positive accomplishments made by members of CSM6, however, the significant weighting of the current membership toward the lowest security occupation combined with the highly aggressive nature of the power bloc forum trolls creates an environment in which no reasonable person should be expected to trust the CSM membership to properly represent all facets of the sandbox objectively. Yet CSM6 managed to represent all facets of the sandbox objectively without demanding things (like neglecting Eve gameplay for more WiS nonsense) that would be harmful to the future of the game.
CSM 6 pushed hardest for attention to nullsec. That is an undeniable fact and Mittens is proudly trumpeting it right now. Your opinion that WiS is nonsense is exactly that - your opinion. Many other people, who Mittens again has openly said he's not interested in representing, don't feel so harshly about it. Maybe it's not a priroity in the overall scheme of things, but that doesn't mean it should be tossed in the trash. You Goons should not be proud of someone who openly says he doesn't want to represent a huge percentage of the playerbase. My vote goes to Issler. |
Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1779
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Posted - 2012.03.07 22:15:00 -
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Carl Thunderthise wrote:CSM 6 pushed hardest for attention to nullsec. That is an undeniable fact and Mittens is proudly trumpeting it right now. Your opinion that WiS is nonsense is exactly that - your opinion. Many other people, who Mittens again has openly said he's not interested in representing, don't feel so harshly about it. Maybe it's not a priroity in the overall scheme of things, but that doesn't mean it should be tossed in the trash. You Goons should not be proud of someone who openly says he doesn't want to represent a huge percentage of the playerbase. My vote goes to Issler.
Mittens pushed for nullsec attention because nullsec needed the most attention. What more could highsec people possibly want after getting level 4 missions buffed and the massive isk faucet of incursions?
I keep hearing that somehow Mittens and the rest of CSM6 actually did things to hurt highsec players but I can't seem to get a single example of this.
As for Issler, if you want to vote for a person who is now openly attacking CCP devs who are actually making the game better for everybody that is your right. Just keep in mind how effective is she going to be working with other developers if they don't give in to her pro-WiS demands? The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
Crucis Cassiopeiae
EvE-COM
886
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Posted - 2012.03.07 22:22:00 -
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+1 vote for Issler Dainze. |
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