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Sjugar
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.01.26 07:24:00 -
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Time dilation and the changes to cloaking have made it very easy to do bomberruns and turn the tides of battles. Thank you ccp. |

Gerrick Palivorn
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.01.26 10:10:00 -
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When did the bomber leave, it's been kicking ass since Apocrypha. |

Sjugar
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.01.26 11:05:00 -
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Maybe more specific: in lag fest your bombs would easily fly over 300 km. Now with 1000 on grid they work. |

eatsbabies cienfuegos
The Sound Of Freedom
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Posted - 2012.01.26 19:24:00 -
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i love bombers more than i love hips lips and fingertips.
the new cloak rules are perfect. even the insta-lock turret boats to counter it is perfect.
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Vordak Kallager
Autocannons Anonymous
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Posted - 2012.01.26 20:58:00 -
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You mean people use bombers for something other than FW Level 4s? Weird! |

ChYph3r
Multiplex Gaming SpaceMonkey's Alliance
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Posted - 2012.01.26 22:27:00 -
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Vordak Kallager wrote:You mean people use bombers for something other than FW Level 4s? Weird!
not all of us are faction warfare and doing missions with them.......... AMP - Angry Monkey Podcast |

Kush Monster
Big Tobacco
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Posted - 2012.01.27 00:07:00 -
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ChYph3r wrote:Vordak Kallager wrote:You mean people use bombers for something other than FW Level 4s? Weird! not all of us are faction fa*ggots and doing missions with them..........
There, I fixed it for you.
"Here's how to make mining enjoyable: a bullet, a gun, your mouth" -Haxtis
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Angeliq
Soimii Patriei Cascade Associates
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Posted - 2012.01.27 10:49:00 -
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eatsbabies cienfuegos wrote:i love bombers more than i love hips lips and fingertips.
the new cloak rules are perfect. even the insta-lock turret boats to counter it is perfect.
What exactly are the new cloaking rules? I don't remember reading anything about cloaking changes in patch notes, except for "cloaked ships will not decloak each other". |

Bad Messenger
draketrain Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
107
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Posted - 2012.01.27 12:50:00 -
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Angeliq wrote:eatsbabies cienfuegos wrote:i love bombers more than i love hips lips and fingertips.
the new cloak rules are perfect. even the insta-lock turret boats to counter it is perfect.
What exactly are the new cloaking rules? I don't remember reading anything about cloaking changes in patch notes, except for "cloaked ships will not decloak each other".
that makes thing lot of easier than before for bombing gangs |

Cedo Nulli
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.01.28 00:00:00 -
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Holy crap ... Time to dust of the bombers from the hangar and join some bomberwing ! |

eatsbabies cienfuegos
The Sound Of Freedom
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Posted - 2012.01.29 08:02:00 -
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Cedo Nulli wrote:Holy crap ... Time to dust of the bombers from the hangar and join some bomberwing !
check out the bomber's bar. |

Lady Ayeipsia
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Cascade Imminent
32
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Posted - 2012.01.29 14:54:00 -
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eatsbabies cienfuegos wrote:Cedo Nulli wrote:Holy crap ... Time to dust of the bombers from the hangar and join some bomberwing ! check out the bomber's bar.
Is that a chat channel? I love my bombers, took a break while training missile skills further, and need to get back to playing with these wonderful ships. |

Tempelman N
Vengance Inc.
0
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Posted - 2012.01.31 00:23:00 -
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Vengance Inc has a fully functional Bomber Wing named Renagade Sqn
http://venga.eve-kill.net/?a=home
We are always Looking for Stealth bombers to join us! YOU DO NOT NEED TO BE A VENGANCE MEMBER TO FLY WITH RENAGADE SQN! Convo me for information! If you are new or have never used a stealth bomber I along with the other bombers will teach you how.
If you love the Art of covert ops warfair and want to join us now is the time |

abissshooter
APEX ARDENT COALITION NEM3SIS.
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Posted - 2012.02.03 22:00:00 -
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Tempelman N wrote:Vengance Inc has a fully functional Bomber Wing named Renagade Sqn http://venga.eve-kill.net/?a=homeWe are always Looking for Stealth bombers to join us! YOU DO NOT NEED TO BE A VENGANCE MEMBER TO FLY WITH RENAGADE SQN! Convo me for information! If you are new or have never used a stealth bomber I along with the other bombers will teach you how. If you love the Art of covert ops warfair and want to join us now is the time
Good bomber pilots are VERY useful, and very effective. Bad bomber pilots, well they just give the rest a bad name, but also allow the good ones to be underestimated 
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Sjugar
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.02.11 10:38:00 -
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So, there a fight with 1700 in system, guess what were the most decisive ships were?
Bombers, both sides had bomberwings and those killed a metric ton of ships and only because both sides had bombers the battle was even.
The era of the alphamaelstrom is over. |

Xpaulusx
V I R I I Ineluctable.
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Posted - 2012.02.13 03:42:00 -
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Gerrick Palivorn wrote:When did the bomber leave, it's been kicking ass since Apocrypha.
Yes, and Black Ops Gangs are still one of the most feared things in Eve |

Kobodera
Selectus Pravus Lupus Transmission Lost
2
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Posted - 2012.02.13 12:33:00 -
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Bombers... brings back memories :)
The same day the patch with the new manufacturing of bombs went live we were attacked by a shitfest of people. I manufactured a batch of bombs and me and some others went there to try them out.
We found out the hard way that they were kind of useless when used one and one, but that it was easy to get ships to spread out to get out of the blast radius. This in turn made it harder for them to RR properly.
At one time me and a wingman saw a POS mod being harrassed by a bloody ton of fighters. We aligned in and sent bombs flying one after the other... no more fighters :p
Later on in that fight one of my corp mates dread was covered by every drone known or unknown. I had one single bomb left and I managed to jiggle through the attackers lines to the 30km mark and asked for permission to put a bomb right on top of him. At first the FC hesitated, but after another guy in our corp told him that the drones + incoming damage was killing him I was told to drop it. I did and after that there were like 5 drones left on him and the dread was saved :D It actually got a mention in scrapheap about how absolutely nasty we were to their drones :D
At the end of that war we were doing a series of POS bashes when a cyno popped and a titanbridge appeared. At the time I was part of the ED/IRC black ops brigade and all of us were carrying Concussion bombs. We warped in from every direction and dropped our bomb loads. In those pops we got more than 50 kills in one go. Myself I got like 14 pods and 1-2 ship kills (where at least one was a friendly dictor.
The FC had been kind of sceptical to us flying those bombers. He rather wanted us to be in regular BSs, but after that incident he acknowledged that the bombers really had made the day. Every ship they targeted was basicly in hull or deep armor and it looked as if they had been hit by a doomsday or two. The rest was more or less a turkey shoot... it was awsome.
I love bombers, always have, but there have not been much use for them in WH space where I have been living for more than a year now... since a lot of ships you face there are T3s which bombs are loltasticly bad against... but oh the memories are still super sweet :D |

Stinkfoot Muldoon
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.02.13 21:46:00 -
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What is the best bomber type at the moment for mass/saturation bombing on fleets? Going to be a Bomber pilot primarily on this guy, is the Hound generally agreed to be best? How about the Caldari bomber? |

abissshooter
Vengance Inc.
0
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Posted - 2012.02.13 22:05:00 -
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Stinkfoot Muldoon wrote:What is the best bomber type at the moment for mass/saturation bombing on fleets? Going to be a Bomber pilot primarily on this guy, is the Hound generally agreed to be best? How about the Caldari bomber?
eatsbabies cienfuegos wrote:
check out the bomber's bar.
This... there are many bombers in that channel, ask questions or you can fly and practice bombing with those folks, people from different alliances/corps bomb together, just a bunch of bombers, wanting to bomb. |

Soldarius
United Highsec Front The 99 Percent
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Posted - 2012.02.14 05:42:00 -
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I don't think any particular bomber is better when it comes to bombing, except for those that can fit 2 bombs in cargo bay. But otherwise, the Purifier has the fitting for a crapton of torp dps. All the others have one deficiency or another. the bonuses are all identical saving that they have a racial damage type bonus rather than all around bonuses. "How do you kill that which has no life?" |

Mart Allini
Lead Farmers Kill It With Fire
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Posted - 2012.02.14 14:43:00 -
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The best bomber for actual bombing is the one every one else is flying. There are no other cross skills than the racial frigate to be able to fly one race's bombers so I;d consider training all of them personally if you want a dedicated bomber character. |

Xolve
The Suicide Kings Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.02.14 17:59:00 -
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Mart Allini wrote:The best bomber for actual bombing is the one every one else is flying. There are no other cross skills than the racial frigate to be able to fly one race's bombers so I;d consider training all of them personally if you want a dedicated bomber character.
The Hound reigns supreme, always has, always will. Bombs are once again an amazing force multiplier in large fleet engagements, and can literally turn the tide of battle with a small number. For someone that has had CovOps V trained for 4 years on several toons, this is an amazing thing (TiDi+Bombs, No CovOps de-cloaking each other, until someone DC's anyway)!
Examples:
27 Man Bomber Wing vs 131 Man Armor Fleet
14 Bombers vs Tornado Gang + Support The AHAC gang in this battle report killed a whopping 4 ships that jumped in just after the bombing run.
Inappropriate signature removed. Navigator. |

Osvaldr Adridian
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.02.14 22:47:00 -
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Holy crap.
How?
I thought after a certain amount even same dmg type bombs start blowing each other up? http://i.imgur.com/wGQin.jpg |

Poloturion
Lead Farmers Kill It With Fire
8
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Posted - 2012.02.14 22:53:00 -
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Osvaldr Adridian wrote: Holy crap. How? I thought after a certain amount even same dmg type bombs start blowing each other up?
You bomb in waves with a delay between each wave so one groups bombs have exploded before the next is in range to take damage. |

Synapps
Spacely Sprocketz
0
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Posted - 2012.02.14 23:10:00 -
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Currently flying a Drake with mainly T2 fitting on it. Looking to get into a bomber and fly it well, any one have a link or suggestion on learning to fly it properly? |

Kush Monster
Big Tobacco
27
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Posted - 2012.02.15 01:23:00 -
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Synapps wrote:Currently flying a Drake with mainly T2 fitting on it. Looking to get into a bomber and fly it well, any one have a link or suggestion on learning to fly it properly?
bombs fly 30k in the direction your ship is pointing. Start out ~40k from your target and align till you are about 35 away. Decloack, bombs away, GTFO! How to make mining enjoyable: An Autocannon, Faction Ammo, Your Mouth
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Xpaulusx
V I R I I Ineluctable.
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Posted - 2012.02.15 03:33:00 -
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No, Bombs of the same damage type have 100% resist to each others damage. If 50 Hounds launch bombs at the same time or slightly off time it wont matter. |

Xolve
The Suicide Kings Test Alliance Please Ignore
887
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Posted - 2012.02.15 07:07:00 -
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Xpaulusx wrote:No, Bombs of the same damage type have 100% resist to each others damage. If 50 Hounds launch bombs at the same time or slightly off time it wont matter.
Pretty much this, it takes a little coordination at the start, but afterwards, everyone gets the same ammo from the ammotruck, and life is good.
If you launch 100 Shrapnel Bombs, they all land without exploding each other.
If you launch 99 Shrapnel Bomb and 1 Scorch Bomb, There are no bombs and someone just got primary'd.
Works best with 10 Void Bombs to annihilate cap, followed by all the Shrapnel you can dish out. Inappropriate signature removed. Navigator. |

Sjugar
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
16
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Posted - 2012.02.15 07:28:00 -
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Xolve wrote:Xpaulusx wrote:No, Bombs of the same damage type have 100% resist to each others damage. If 50 Hounds launch bombs at the same time or slightly off time it wont matter. Pretty much this, it takes a little coordination at the start, but afterwards, everyone gets the same ammo from the ammotruck, and life is good. If you launch 100 Shrapnel Bombs, they all land without exploding each other. If you launch 99 Shrapnel Bomb and 1 Scorch Bomb, There are no bombs and someone just got primary'd. Works best with 10 Void Bombs to annihilate cap, followed by all the Shrapnel you can dish out. Bombs do not have 100% resist to their own damage type. It takes about 7 bombs to pop one of the same type. |

Halete
Almost Epic
9
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Posted - 2012.02.15 07:34:00 -
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I've been staring at the Stealth Bombers affectionately for a long time and just realized I'm actually in a pretty good position to start training for one (and flying them with economical viability). What are good Bomb/Torp skills as a bare minimum to make it worthwhile getting into the ship? Generic small-time hero-tackle pilot with no relevance. |
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