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Pwett
Minmatar QUANT Corp. QUANT Hegemony
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Posted - 2007.10.26 21:12:00 -
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all my letters to CCP worked! _______________ Pwett CEO and Founder [QTC]QUANT Corp.
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Pwett
Minmatar QUANT Corp. QUANT Hegemony
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Posted - 2007.10.29 16:33:00 -
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Use #2 for the orca
if they have the capital tractors, I'm soooo gonna use this to salvage my missions :) _______________ Pwett CEO and Founder [QTC]QUANT Corp.
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Pwett
Minmatar QUANT Corp. QUANT Hegemony
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Posted - 2007.10.30 17:43:00 -
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I simply don't understand why they wouldn't have ore compressing, that's clearly the only reason to make a high-sec version.
Spending billions for what 2% more on ganglinks? whoopdidoo. _______________ Pwett CEO and Founder [QTC]QUANT Corp.
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Pwett
Minmatar QUANT Corp. QUANT Hegemony
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Posted - 2007.10.30 18:53:00 -
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Well, Ore compressing has nothing do the cargo capacity of the Rorqual. I mean, of course it does, but follow me here. What if you don't compress ore so that the Rorqual can hold more, but rather hi-sec miners compress ore so that OTHER ships can carry more. Which is a marginal point right now, but will become absolutely 1,000% more relevant when module compression no longer exists.
You can use the Rorqual as a mini-jump freighter, yes, but that's only one of hundreds of possible uses for compressed ore. _______________ Pwett CEO and Founder [QTC]QUANT Corp.
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Pwett
Minmatar QUANT Corp. QUANT Hegemony
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Posted - 2007.10.31 03:34:00 -
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Originally by: Falka Lakadaka
Why carry compressed ore around in High Sec? Why not refine and carry minerals? It's high sec, there are plenty of stations with refineries.
*Pwett shouts 'To Get it into 0.0!'* Aaagggghhhhh _______________ Pwett CEO and Founder [QTC]QUANT Corp.
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Pwett
Minmatar QUANT Corp. QUANT Hegemony
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Posted - 2007.12.14 00:12:00 -
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Well written Riley,
But I will say this again. the Orca NEEDS ore compression. The only place that NEEDS ore compression is high-sec, not null sec.
I lived in 0.0, I never compressed 0.0 ore to bring to high-sec. I refined it and sold the minerals. But I had passive targeter production lines running 23/7 to get tritanium to 0.0. Because the 0.0 industry NEEDS the trit fuel. _______________ Pwett CEO, Founder, & Executor <Q> QUANT Hegemony
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Pwett
Minmatar QUANT Corp. QUANT Hegemony
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Posted - 2007.12.21 16:43:00 -
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Originally by: Moon Dogg
Example 3: My corp is war-decced. Common practice in this case (at least for my old corp) would have been to move pilots out of corp and into an NPC corp to ensure that ore production didn't stop. In this case, the Orca is unavailable to corp mining ops unless a pilot stays in the corp to fly it while the rest stay in NPCs and mine.
omg hate those people!
But, piloting in NPC corp should be fine, using it to compress, however, should require a corp.
_______________ Pwett CEO, Founder, & Executor <Q> QUANT Hegemony
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Pwett
Minmatar QUANT Corp. QUANT Hegemony
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Posted - 2007.12.24 02:22:00 -
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I honestly don't want the increased cargo space.
All I want is a way to compress ore in high-sec. That is it. _______________ Pwett CEO, Founder, & Executor <Q> QUANT Hegemony
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Pwett
Minmatar QUANT Corp. QUANT Hegemony
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Posted - 2008.01.02 14:57:00 -
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Originally by: Night Soul if CCP adds compression then add it to the thousands of stations in the game. Compression would just make it wanted for low sec ops and drive the price up.
a) CCP just REMOVED compression from high-sec (stupid stupid) b) You can already use the rorqual in low-sec. c) if you want to avoid ore thieves, use your command ship pilot to drop the damn cans. d) high-sec anchorable POS compression module please. _______________ Pwett CEO, Founder, & Executor <Q> QUANT Hegemony
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Pwett
Minmatar QUANT Corp. QUANT Hegemony
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Posted - 2008.01.06 04:15:00 -
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Originally by: Marcus Tedric And neither should the Orca. Logistics in this simulation should not be made even easier.
I'm not to bother arguing with you, but look at it this way, do you know how much high-sec tritanium needs to be moved to 0.0 to build one mom? 1.26 billion worth, that's 16 freighter loads. You're telling me we DON'T need to compress ore in high-sec now that they moved the old-fashioned way of doing it?
Listen, I don't care how much it helps you mine, or the bonus it gives to mining, we just need a way to compress ore in high-sec.
Make a high-sec anchorable compression POS module please. _______________ Pwett CEO, Founder, & Executor <Q> QUANT Hegemony
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Pwett
Minmatar QUANT Corp. QUANT Hegemony
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Posted - 2008.01.11 02:26:00 -
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I do not agree with the premise that the rorqual is a mining or hauling ship. It does nothing a carrier with a small pos in it's hold couldn't already do, and it terms of hostile territory operation, do better. It has a few more bells and whistles like a few more percent of mining command bonus' and a larger maintenance bay, but in terms of those two items, they're not enough to outweigh the lack of protection a carrier can field at a moments notice.
That said, the rorqual is a compression ship, and compression needs to be the focus of the orca.
With the removal of jump-bridging freighters, carrier hauling, and module compression, this role is more important that it has ever been before. _______________ Pwett CEO, Founder, & Executor <Q> QUANT Hegemony
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Pwett
Minmatar QUANT Corp. QUANT Hegemony
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Posted - 2008.01.11 14:45:00 -
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I agree completely that mineral compression would be much more favourable to asteroid compression in high-sec.
excellent idea. _______________ Pwett CEO, Founder, & Executor <Q> QUANT Hegemony
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Pwett
Minmatar QUANT Corp. QUANT Hegemony
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Posted - 2008.01.12 19:44:00 -
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The argument for the compression is that it needs to exist in high-sec so that there is way to get all that high-sec down to 0.0 without having to use freighter trains of uncompressed ore.
I didn't think about the whole mineral compression, unless the orca had the ability to compress from ore > compressed mineral, which would sidestep the refinery process... which loses the mineral tax sink, but skill-wise it should have the same pre-requisites as perfect refine, which the Rorqual already requires. _______________ Pwett CEO, Founder, & Executor <Q> QUANT Hegemony
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Pwett
Minmatar QUANT Corp. QUANT Hegemony
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Posted - 2008.01.13 16:56:00 -
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Originally by: Marcus Tedric The Ore/Mins is all available out there - it's just that they struggle to get people to mine it there.
Not in sufficient quantities to support super-cap production.
Your biggest source of low-ends in 0.0 are hauler spawns, and even then it would take 20+ of the perfect trit ones alone to cover the requirements of 1 MS. The most Veldspar an asteroid will ever have will be 2 jetcans worth (tested growth over 6 months) and that's assuming you have time to let them grow. There are also less of the low-end asteroids in 0.0 so per belt, you get FAR less trit than you do in a high-sec belt - assuming you are taking full advantage of your space and stripping the belts on respawn.
So, yes, 0.0 REQUIRES the low-ends available from high-sec.
And 2) you will never see my Rorqual in low-sec until there is a way to functionally lock down a system. And no, I don't subscribe to the mothership-gate-smartbomb tactic in EVE :) _______________ Pwett CEO, Founder, & Executor <Q> QUANT Hegemony
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Pwett
Minmatar QUANT Corp. QUANT Hegemony
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Posted - 2008.01.14 19:08:00 -
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I think Riley is correct when he basically says we shouldn't accept the premise that the Rorqual got it right the first time.
_______________ Pwett CEO, Founder, & Executor <Q> QUANT Hegemony
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Pwett
Minmatar QUANT Corp. QUANT Hegemony
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Posted - 2008.01.15 16:22:00 -
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cluttering up the already uselessly cluttered gang broadcast window is not my idea of a good idea.
If anyone uses a Rorqual, they're gonna be on voice chat, because they're going to want to know what their scouts are seeing as it happens. Granted not so important in high-sec - but again, any fleet that can afford and field a gang that is going to utilize something of this cost will be on voice-comms as it is and the fleet broadcasts, outside of calling cynos, is largely done better outside the game. _______________ Pwett CEO, Founder, & Executor <Q> QUANT Hegemony
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Pwett
Minmatar QUANT Corp. QUANT Hegemony
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Posted - 2008.01.15 19:08:00 -
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I don't know about you, but our guys just spread out in groups of two or three, 22 kms apart. That way there is no overlap and every ark is covered. Don't even bother telling them which roids to mine. They're smart, they can figure it out. _______________ Pwett CEO, Founder, & Executor <Q> QUANT Hegemony
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Pwett
Minmatar QUANT Corp. QUANT Hegemony
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Posted - 2008.01.16 15:56:00 -
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You know what I meant about the overlap,
Now Matthew, I admit I kinda like what you're saying, but lets get rid of the broadcast paradigm for a sec. Something that would really benefit, not only miners, but all Fleets, would be to take that broadcast system and convert it into a overview filtering system that the FC designates and gets propagated down the wing / squad hierarchy. Because, again, when you get substantial groups of miners going, you're popping roids every cycle or two, and I highly doubt the orca pilot is going to want to be in a mad dash to outclick his miners. :)
But if they can take a survey scanned filter of the overview and transmit that to their miners, I think that would still give them a useful intelligence bonus, while not turning their miners into mindless automatons. We have to remember not to let our miners know they're slaves! _______________ Pwett CEO, Founder, & Executor <Q> QUANT Hegemony
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Pwett
Minmatar QUANT Corp. QUANT Hegemony
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Posted - 2008.01.17 16:21:00 -
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Originally by: Matthew Actually, lets throw that question out to the people who can currently act out that situation: Are there any 0.0 residents that bother to compress using the rorqual when mining in the same system as they intend to refine the ore in?
No, because refining Arkonor provides better compression than ... compressing it. for station mining ops the Rorqual simply replaces the POS-docked Eos we used to use.
Not the case with low-ends. _______________ Pwett CEO, Founder, & Executor <Q> QUANT Hegemony
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Pwett
Minmatar QUANT Corp. QUANT Hegemony
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Posted - 2008.01.18 19:16:00 -
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Hauling with a freighter is all well and good, until you manage to warp that freighter into the orca, and the freighter zooms off at 80 km/s. Having done that at a low-sec gate, would anyone else hazard a guess on how long it would take that freighter to stop?
_______________ Pwett CEO, Founder, & Executor <Q> QUANT Hegemony
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Pwett
Minmatar QUANT Corp. QUANT Hegemony
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Posted - 2008.02.14 16:03:00 -
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Originally by: Mara Rinn
You are also assuming that someone is going to get the Orca and fly it solo.
If you enter a belt with two other people, doesn't that reduce the individually contributed time to 11 days of effort?
If you enter a system as a fleet with 10 other people, doesn't that reduce the individually contributed time to 3 days of effort?
Who is going to fly a capital ship solo?
No, I think you misunderstand the concept of manhours. No matter how many people are there, the number of man hours needed to return the investment remain the same.
If all we're talking about it a big command ship, you'd be much better off spending the money from the orca on another account for the guy currently sitting in a Battlecruiser to mine in a hulk.
If it significantly adds to the logistical aspects of a mining fleet, like adding high-sec compression, then it would have a much higher value.
Let me put it this way, if the price difference between a hulk and a covetor was 3 billion isk (for an arbitrary 15% yield difference) would the hulk be as prevalent? _______________ Pwett CEO, Founder, & Executor <Q> QUANT Hegemony
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Pwett
QUANT Corp. QUANT Hegemony
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Posted - 2008.05.28 15:52:00 -
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I'd be tempted to not give these ships tanks so that they remain moderately vulnerable in high-sec; like a freighter. _______________ Pwett CEO, Founder, & Executor <Q> QUANT Hegemony
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Pwett
QUANT Corp. QUANT Hegemony
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Posted - 2008.06.03 16:34:00 -
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Sorry, it needs to compress ore. Period. _______________ Pwett CEO, Founder, & Executor <Q> QUANT Hegemony
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Pwett
QUANT Corp. QUANT Hegemony
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Posted - 2008.06.03 17:34:00 -
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I'm not going to start this argument again.
As a high-sec miner, you'll make far more money if you can compress your high-sec ore to sell to the people who need to get it to 0.0, at a premium.
It's only a matter of time before CCP completely negates all viable module compression. _______________ Pwett CEO, Founder, & Executor <Q> QUANT Hegemony
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Pwett
QUANT Corp. QUANT Hegemony
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Posted - 2008.06.03 17:49:00 -
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compress veldspar maybe?
Have you ever tried moving 500 million trit into 0.0?
Right now we can still compress it into modules and move it, but as I said, module compression's days are numbered. _______________ Pwett CEO, Founder, & Executor <Q> QUANT Hegemony
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Pwett
QUANT Corp. QUANT Hegemony
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Posted - 2008.06.04 14:51:00 -
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Originally by: Marcus Tedric
And the 0.0 Customers are NOT interested in buying Scord or Veld at a 'premium' - so even less need!
Want to bet? There are a few IPOs that do nothing but sell compressed trit in modules at a premium, and they do VERY well. _______________ Pwett CEO, Founder, & Executor <Q> QUANT Hegemony
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Pwett
QUANT Corp. QUANT Hegemony
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Posted - 2008.06.05 14:46:00 -
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you need to break out of your paradigms here.
In 0.0, you compress while you mine to get minerals TO the station.
In High-sec, you compress while you mine to get minerals OUT of high-sec. _______________ Pwett CEO, Founder, & Executor <Q> QUANT Hegemony
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Pwett
Minmatar QUANT Corp. QUANT Hegemony
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Posted - 2008.07.01 15:19:00 -
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Originally by: Inoga Deh'saelnu I had an idea about what the Orca should have... Even the Rorqual really...
They should have a Mining Transport Link Laser... Since mining barges can get rock with a laser why can it not be transported via laser... Having an Orca or Rorqual present means that the Barges can be targeted by the Rorqual and as they mine to their cargo the rorqual automatically takes from the cargo to its "reserve hangar" or whereever the ore goes as it waits for compression. ~CS
I'm sorry, but this is the BEST idea ever. E-V-E-R. _______________ Pwett CEO, Founder, & Executor <Q> QUANT Hegemony
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Pwett
Minmatar QUANT Corp. QUANT Hegemony
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Posted - 2008.07.10 18:47:00 -
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If the orca is the mini-freighter discussed in the assembly hall, then I go back to my ORIGINAL point and say that we need a high-sec anchorable POS compression module. _______________ Pwett CEO, Founder, & Executor <Q> QUANT Hegemony
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Pwett
Minmatar QUANT Corp. QUANT Hegemony
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Posted - 2008.08.01 16:36:00 -
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just a quick note to the above - hulks don't have turret slots. _______________ Pwett CEO, Founder, & Executor <Q> QUANT Hegemony
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